Re: [ovirt-users] experience with AMD Kabini (Jaguar) CPUs
Hey, Just a quick update on this. The machine is really quiet and cool, and most importantly, oVirt works perfectly on it. Thanks again for all the input! iordan On Fri, Jun 6, 2014 at 12:03 PM, i iordanov iiorda...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Francesco, Thank you so much! I really appreciate it. I already ordered the parts taking a small risk. Yes, this system promises to be so cool and quiet, that I can practically use it as a pillow :). Cheers! iordan On Fri, Jun 6, 2014 at 5:32 AM, Francesco Romani from...@redhat.com wrote: - Original Message - From: Doron Fediuck dfedi...@redhat.com To: i iordanov iiorda...@gmail.com Cc: users@ovirt.org Sent: Thursday, June 5, 2014 6:50:58 PM Subject: Re: [ovirt-users] experience with AMD Kabini (Jaguar) CPUs - Original Message - From: i iordanov iiorda...@gmail.com To: Doron Fediuck dfedi...@redhat.com Cc: users@ovirt.org, Yedidyah Bar David d...@redhat.com, Sandro Bonazzola sbona...@redhat.com Sent: Thursday, June 5, 2014 7:46:24 PM Subject: Re: [ovirt-users] experience with AMD Kabini (Jaguar) CPUs Hi Doron, I haven't purchased the Kabini-based system. I hoping that I would be able to learn in advance whether an all-in-one installation of oVirt would work on it. Unfortunately, returning it would be a hassle and I would not get a full refund for it. If there is no way to discover in advance whether oVirt will work on the system, I can take a risk. Is an all-in-one oVirt installation known to work on any of the modern AMD offerings? Thanks! iordan Hi everyone, I'm playing with a new AMD Kabini host, to see how it behaves as very low-cost[1], low-consumption hypervisor host[2]. I'm still installing the node, so I don't have actual data yet. According to libvirt, the host present itself as Opteron_G3. Plese find attached the output from virsh (1.2.5) capabilities (caps.txt) lscpu (lscpu.txt) lspci (lspci.txt) +++ [1] You can get a CPU + mainboard with ~85 EURO or even less, and it will consume 25W fully loaded, much less when idle. The fan is close to inaudible. [2] I'll put together a document/wiki page with my findings and experience afterwards. -- Francesco Romani RedHat Engineering Virtualization R D Phone: 8261328 IRC: fromani -- The conscious mind has only one thread of execution. -- The conscious mind has only one thread of execution. ___ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Re: [ovirt-users] experience with AMD Kabini (Jaguar) CPUs
- Original Message - From: Doron Fediuck dfedi...@redhat.com To: i iordanov iiorda...@gmail.com Cc: users@ovirt.org Sent: Thursday, June 5, 2014 6:50:58 PM Subject: Re: [ovirt-users] experience with AMD Kabini (Jaguar) CPUs - Original Message - From: i iordanov iiorda...@gmail.com To: Doron Fediuck dfedi...@redhat.com Cc: users@ovirt.org, Yedidyah Bar David d...@redhat.com, Sandro Bonazzola sbona...@redhat.com Sent: Thursday, June 5, 2014 7:46:24 PM Subject: Re: [ovirt-users] experience with AMD Kabini (Jaguar) CPUs Hi Doron, I haven't purchased the Kabini-based system. I hoping that I would be able to learn in advance whether an all-in-one installation of oVirt would work on it. Unfortunately, returning it would be a hassle and I would not get a full refund for it. If there is no way to discover in advance whether oVirt will work on the system, I can take a risk. Is an all-in-one oVirt installation known to work on any of the modern AMD offerings? Thanks! iordan Hi everyone, I'm playing with a new AMD Kabini host, to see how it behaves as very low-cost[1], low-consumption hypervisor host[2]. I'm still installing the node, so I don't have actual data yet. According to libvirt, the host present itself as Opteron_G3. Plese find attached the output from virsh (1.2.5) capabilities (caps.txt) lscpu (lscpu.txt) lspci (lspci.txt) +++ [1] You can get a CPU + mainboard with ~85 EURO or even less, and it will consume 25W fully loaded, much less when idle. The fan is close to inaudible. [2] I'll put together a document/wiki page with my findings and experience afterwards. -- Francesco Romani RedHat Engineering Virtualization R D Phone: 8261328 IRC: fromani 00:00.0 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Family 16h Processor Root Complex 00:01.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] Kabini [Radeon HD 8400 / R3 Series] 00:01.1 Audio device: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] Kabini HDMI/DP Audio 00:02.0 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Family 16h Processor Function 0 00:02.4 PCI bridge: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Family 16h Processor Functions 5:1 00:02.5 PCI bridge: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Family 16h Processor Functions 5:1 00:10.0 USB controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] FCH USB XHCI Controller (rev 01) 00:11.0 SATA controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] FCH SATA Controller [AHCI mode] (rev 40) 00:12.0 USB controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] FCH USB OHCI Controller (rev 39) 00:12.2 USB controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] FCH USB EHCI Controller (rev 39) 00:13.0 USB controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] FCH USB OHCI Controller (rev 39) 00:13.2 USB controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] FCH USB EHCI Controller (rev 39) 00:14.0 SMBus: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] FCH SMBus Controller (rev 3a) 00:14.2 Audio device: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] FCH Azalia Controller (rev 02) 00:14.3 ISA bridge: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] FCH LPC Bridge (rev 11) 00:18.0 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Family 16h Processor Function 0 00:18.1 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Family 16h Processor Function 1 00:18.2 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Family 16h Processor Function 2 00:18.3 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Family 16h Processor Function 3 00:18.4 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Family 16h Processor Function 4 00:18.5 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Family 16h Processor Function 5 01:00.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8111/8168/8411 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet Controller (rev 11) 02:00.0 USB controller: ASMedia Technology Inc. ASM1042A USB 3.0 Host Controller Architecture: x86_64 CPU op-mode(s):32-bit, 64-bit Byte Order:Little Endian CPU(s):4 On-line CPU(s) list: 0-3 Thread(s) per core:1 Core(s) per socket:4 Socket(s): 1 NUMA node(s): 1 Vendor ID: AuthenticAMD CPU family:22 Model: 0 Model name:AMD Athlon(tm) 5350 APU with Radeon(tm) R3 Stepping: 1 CPU MHz: 800.000 CPU max MHz: 2050. CPU min MHz: 800. BogoMIPS: 4092.62 Virtualization:AMD-V L1d cache: 32K L1i cache: 32K L2 cache: 2048K NUMA node0 CPU(s): 0-3 capabilities host uuid0e989c0a-956b-343d-c5ac-40167eb07d87/uuid cpu archx86_64/arch modelOpteron_G3/model vendorAMD/vendor topology sockets='1' cores='4' threads='1'/ feature name='bmi1'/ feature name='perfctr_nb'/ feature name='topoext'/ feature name='wdt'/ feature name='skinit'/ feature name='ibs'/ feature name='osvw'/ feature name
Re: [ovirt-users] experience with AMD Kabini (Jaguar) CPUs
Hi Francesco, Thank you so much! I really appreciate it. I already ordered the parts taking a small risk. Yes, this system promises to be so cool and quiet, that I can practically use it as a pillow :). Cheers! iordan On Fri, Jun 6, 2014 at 5:32 AM, Francesco Romani from...@redhat.com wrote: - Original Message - From: Doron Fediuck dfedi...@redhat.com To: i iordanov iiorda...@gmail.com Cc: users@ovirt.org Sent: Thursday, June 5, 2014 6:50:58 PM Subject: Re: [ovirt-users] experience with AMD Kabini (Jaguar) CPUs - Original Message - From: i iordanov iiorda...@gmail.com To: Doron Fediuck dfedi...@redhat.com Cc: users@ovirt.org, Yedidyah Bar David d...@redhat.com, Sandro Bonazzola sbona...@redhat.com Sent: Thursday, June 5, 2014 7:46:24 PM Subject: Re: [ovirt-users] experience with AMD Kabini (Jaguar) CPUs Hi Doron, I haven't purchased the Kabini-based system. I hoping that I would be able to learn in advance whether an all-in-one installation of oVirt would work on it. Unfortunately, returning it would be a hassle and I would not get a full refund for it. If there is no way to discover in advance whether oVirt will work on the system, I can take a risk. Is an all-in-one oVirt installation known to work on any of the modern AMD offerings? Thanks! iordan Hi everyone, I'm playing with a new AMD Kabini host, to see how it behaves as very low-cost[1], low-consumption hypervisor host[2]. I'm still installing the node, so I don't have actual data yet. According to libvirt, the host present itself as Opteron_G3. Plese find attached the output from virsh (1.2.5) capabilities (caps.txt) lscpu (lscpu.txt) lspci (lspci.txt) +++ [1] You can get a CPU + mainboard with ~85 EURO or even less, and it will consume 25W fully loaded, much less when idle. The fan is close to inaudible. [2] I'll put together a document/wiki page with my findings and experience afterwards. -- Francesco Romani RedHat Engineering Virtualization R D Phone: 8261328 IRC: fromani -- The conscious mind has only one thread of execution. ___ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Re: [ovirt-users] experience with AMD Kabini (Jaguar) CPUs
Hi Doron, I haven't purchased the Kabini-based system. I hoping that I would be able to learn in advance whether an all-in-one installation of oVirt would work on it. Unfortunately, returning it would be a hassle and I would not get a full refund for it. If there is no way to discover in advance whether oVirt will work on the system, I can take a risk. Is an all-in-one oVirt installation known to work on any of the modern AMD offerings? Thanks! iordan On Wed, Jun 4, 2014 at 4:29 PM, Doron Fediuck dfedi...@redhat.com wrote: - Original Message - From: i iordanov iiorda...@gmail.com To: Doron Fediuck dfedi...@redhat.com Cc: users@ovirt.org Sent: Wednesday, June 4, 2014 1:26:03 AM Subject: Re: [ovirt-users] experience with AMD Kabini (Jaguar) CPUs Hi Doron, To justify the reason I'm asking my question. On this page: http://www.ovirt.org/Features/Self_Hosted_Engine I see references to a limited set of CPU types supported by some component of oVirt. For example, I find the following text alarming: The following CPU types are supported by this host: - model_Nehalem: Intel Nehalem Family - model_Penryn: Intel Penryn Family - model_Conroe: Intel Conroe Family Thanks! iordan On Tue, Jun 3, 2014 at 6:19 PM, i iordanov iiorda...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Doron, So there is no artificial check for supported CPUs in the oVirt engine installer? Thanks! iordan On Sun, May 25, 2014 at 7:47 AM, Doron Fediuck dfedi...@redhat.com wrote: - Original Message - From: i iordanov iiorda...@gmail.com To: users@ovirt.org Sent: Sunday, May 25, 2014 12:51:57 AM Subject: [ovirt-users] experience with AMD Kabini (Jaguar) CPUs Hey guys, I need a system to test oVirt and Opaque on, but I want it to be super-low power and near-silent. Therefore I am thinking of grabbing one of the new 25W AMD Kabini CPUs. Will oVirt work well on that architecture? If not, what would you recommend? Many thanks! iordan -- The conscious mind has only one thread of execution. ___ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users Hey, oVirt works with libvirt and kvm. In order to know what is supported with kvm you can check: http://www.linux-kvm.org/page/Processor_support As for libvirt, they provide a wiki on troubleshooting it: http://wiki.libvirt.org/page/Libvirt_identifies_host_processor_as_a_different_model_from_the_hardware_documentation Hope that helps, Doron -- The conscious mind has only one thread of execution. -- The conscious mind has only one thread of execution. Hi iordan, The text you provided is based on the information we get from libvirt with some restrictions we impose specifically on hosted engine to make sure its VM can live-migrate from one host to the other. You can see more info here: http://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/Fedora/18/html/Virtualization_Administration_Guide/ch15s13s03.html Can you provide the output of 'virsh capabilities' on your AMD Kabini? -- The conscious mind has only one thread of execution. ___ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Re: [ovirt-users] experience with AMD Kabini (Jaguar) CPUs
- Original Message - From: i iordanov iiorda...@gmail.com To: Doron Fediuck dfedi...@redhat.com Cc: users@ovirt.org Sent: Wednesday, June 4, 2014 1:26:03 AM Subject: Re: [ovirt-users] experience with AMD Kabini (Jaguar) CPUs Hi Doron, To justify the reason I'm asking my question. On this page: http://www.ovirt.org/Features/Self_Hosted_Engine I see references to a limited set of CPU types supported by some component of oVirt. For example, I find the following text alarming: The following CPU types are supported by this host: - model_Nehalem: Intel Nehalem Family - model_Penryn: Intel Penryn Family - model_Conroe: Intel Conroe Family Thanks! iordan On Tue, Jun 3, 2014 at 6:19 PM, i iordanov iiorda...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Doron, So there is no artificial check for supported CPUs in the oVirt engine installer? Thanks! iordan On Sun, May 25, 2014 at 7:47 AM, Doron Fediuck dfedi...@redhat.com wrote: - Original Message - From: i iordanov iiorda...@gmail.com To: users@ovirt.org Sent: Sunday, May 25, 2014 12:51:57 AM Subject: [ovirt-users] experience with AMD Kabini (Jaguar) CPUs Hey guys, I need a system to test oVirt and Opaque on, but I want it to be super-low power and near-silent. Therefore I am thinking of grabbing one of the new 25W AMD Kabini CPUs. Will oVirt work well on that architecture? If not, what would you recommend? Many thanks! iordan -- The conscious mind has only one thread of execution. ___ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users Hey, oVirt works with libvirt and kvm. In order to know what is supported with kvm you can check: http://www.linux-kvm.org/page/Processor_support As for libvirt, they provide a wiki on troubleshooting it: http://wiki.libvirt.org/page/Libvirt_identifies_host_processor_as_a_different_model_from_the_hardware_documentation Hope that helps, Doron -- The conscious mind has only one thread of execution. -- The conscious mind has only one thread of execution. Hi iordan, The text you provided is based on the information we get from libvirt with some restrictions we impose specifically on hosted engine to make sure its VM can live-migrate from one host to the other. You can see more info here: http://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/Fedora/18/html/Virtualization_Administration_Guide/ch15s13s03.html Can you provide the output of 'virsh capabilities' on your AMD Kabini? ___ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Re: [ovirt-users] experience with AMD Kabini (Jaguar) CPUs
Hi Doron, So there is no artificial check for supported CPUs in the oVirt engine installer? Thanks! iordan On Sun, May 25, 2014 at 7:47 AM, Doron Fediuck dfedi...@redhat.com wrote: - Original Message - From: i iordanov iiorda...@gmail.com To: users@ovirt.org Sent: Sunday, May 25, 2014 12:51:57 AM Subject: [ovirt-users] experience with AMD Kabini (Jaguar) CPUs Hey guys, I need a system to test oVirt and Opaque on, but I want it to be super-low power and near-silent. Therefore I am thinking of grabbing one of the new 25W AMD Kabini CPUs. Will oVirt work well on that architecture? If not, what would you recommend? Many thanks! iordan -- The conscious mind has only one thread of execution. ___ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users Hey, oVirt works with libvirt and kvm. In order to know what is supported with kvm you can check: http://www.linux-kvm.org/page/Processor_support As for libvirt, they provide a wiki on troubleshooting it: http://wiki.libvirt.org/page/Libvirt_identifies_host_processor_as_a_different_model_from_the_hardware_documentation Hope that helps, Doron -- The conscious mind has only one thread of execution. ___ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Re: [ovirt-users] experience with AMD Kabini (Jaguar) CPUs
Hi Doron, To justify the reason I'm asking my question. On this page: http://www.ovirt.org/Features/Self_Hosted_Engine I see references to a limited set of CPU types supported by some component of oVirt. For example, I find the following text alarming: The following CPU types are supported by this host: - model_Nehalem: Intel Nehalem Family - model_Penryn: Intel Penryn Family - model_Conroe: Intel Conroe Family Thanks! iordan On Tue, Jun 3, 2014 at 6:19 PM, i iordanov iiorda...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Doron, So there is no artificial check for supported CPUs in the oVirt engine installer? Thanks! iordan On Sun, May 25, 2014 at 7:47 AM, Doron Fediuck dfedi...@redhat.com wrote: - Original Message - From: i iordanov iiorda...@gmail.com To: users@ovirt.org Sent: Sunday, May 25, 2014 12:51:57 AM Subject: [ovirt-users] experience with AMD Kabini (Jaguar) CPUs Hey guys, I need a system to test oVirt and Opaque on, but I want it to be super-low power and near-silent. Therefore I am thinking of grabbing one of the new 25W AMD Kabini CPUs. Will oVirt work well on that architecture? If not, what would you recommend? Many thanks! iordan -- The conscious mind has only one thread of execution. ___ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users Hey, oVirt works with libvirt and kvm. In order to know what is supported with kvm you can check: http://www.linux-kvm.org/page/Processor_support As for libvirt, they provide a wiki on troubleshooting it: http://wiki.libvirt.org/page/Libvirt_identifies_host_processor_as_a_different_model_from_the_hardware_documentation Hope that helps, Doron -- The conscious mind has only one thread of execution. -- The conscious mind has only one thread of execution. ___ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Re: [ovirt-users] experience with AMD Kabini (Jaguar) CPUs
- Original Message - From: i iordanov iiorda...@gmail.com To: users@ovirt.org Sent: Sunday, May 25, 2014 12:51:57 AM Subject: [ovirt-users] experience with AMD Kabini (Jaguar) CPUs Hey guys, I need a system to test oVirt and Opaque on, but I want it to be super-low power and near-silent. Therefore I am thinking of grabbing one of the new 25W AMD Kabini CPUs. Will oVirt work well on that architecture? If not, what would you recommend? Many thanks! iordan -- The conscious mind has only one thread of execution. ___ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users Hey, oVirt works with libvirt and kvm. In order to know what is supported with kvm you can check: http://www.linux-kvm.org/page/Processor_support As for libvirt, they provide a wiki on troubleshooting it: http://wiki.libvirt.org/page/Libvirt_identifies_host_processor_as_a_different_model_from_the_hardware_documentation Hope that helps, Doron ___ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users
[ovirt-users] experience with AMD Kabini (Jaguar) CPUs
Hey guys, I need a system to test oVirt and Opaque on, but I want it to be super-low power and near-silent. Therefore I am thinking of grabbing one of the new 25W AMD Kabini CPUs. Will oVirt work well on that architecture? If not, what would you recommend? Many thanks! iordan -- The conscious mind has only one thread of execution. ___ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users
