[ovirt-users] shared storage with iscsi

2014-12-04 Thread mad Engineer
Hello All,
I am using NFS as shared storage and is working fine,able
to migrate instances across nodes.
Is it possible to use iscsi backend and achieve the same,a shared
iscsi[i am not able to find a way to do a shared iscsi across hosts]
can some one help with a shared iscsi storage for live migration of vm
across hosts

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Re: [ovirt-users] shared storage with iscsi

2014-12-04 Thread Maor Lipchuk


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 From: mad Engineer themadengin...@gmail.com
 To: users@ovirt.org
 Sent: Thursday, December 4, 2014 11:26:32 AM
 Subject: [ovirt-users] shared storage with iscsi
 
 Hello All,
 I am using NFS as shared storage and is working fine,able
 to migrate instances across nodes.
 Is it possible to use iscsi backend and achieve the same,a shared
 iscsi[i am not able to find a way to do a shared iscsi across hosts]
 can some one help with a shared iscsi storage for live migration of vm
 across hosts
 
 Thanks
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Hi,

What do you mean by shared iscsi?
if you created a new iSCSI Storage Domain in the Data Center and it is active 
then all the hosts should see it while it is Active.

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Re: [ovirt-users] shared storage with iscsi

2014-12-04 Thread mad Engineer
Thanks Maor,in non ovirt kvm setup i use GFS2 to make the block device
shareable across multiple hosts.Could you tell me how is it achieved
in ovirt.

Regards

On Thu, Dec 4, 2014 at 5:31 PM, Maor Lipchuk mlipc...@redhat.com wrote:


 - Original Message -
 From: mad Engineer themadengin...@gmail.com
 To: users@ovirt.org
 Sent: Thursday, December 4, 2014 11:26:32 AM
 Subject: [ovirt-users] shared storage with iscsi

 Hello All,
 I am using NFS as shared storage and is working fine,able
 to migrate instances across nodes.
 Is it possible to use iscsi backend and achieve the same,a shared
 iscsi[i am not able to find a way to do a shared iscsi across hosts]
 can some one help with a shared iscsi storage for live migration of vm
 across hosts

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 Hi,

 What do you mean by shared iscsi?
 if you created a new iSCSI Storage Domain in the Data Center and it is active 
 then all the hosts should see it while it is Active.

 Regards,
 Maor
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Re: [ovirt-users] shared storage with iscsi

2014-12-04 Thread Nicolas Ecarnot

Le 04/12/2014 16:23, mad Engineer a écrit :

Thanks Maor,in non ovirt kvm setup i use GFS2 to make the block device
shareable across multiple hosts.Could you tell me how is it achieved
in ovirt.


When using iSCSI, they are not shared.
You have to make sure your storage infrastructure allows multiple 
connection to the iscsi LUN.

But there is nothing to do about sharing on the block level.
When migrating data in iSCSI environement, according to what I've 
witnessed, blocks are dd'ed (so this takes time) from the SD source to 
target.


I guess that's where glusterfs adds some benefit.



Regards

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From: mad Engineer themadengin...@gmail.com
To: users@ovirt.org
Sent: Thursday, December 4, 2014 11:26:32 AM
Subject: [ovirt-users] shared storage with iscsi

Hello All,
 I am using NFS as shared storage and is working fine,able
to migrate instances across nodes.
Is it possible to use iscsi backend and achieve the same,a shared
iscsi[i am not able to find a way to do a shared iscsi across hosts]
can some one help with a shared iscsi storage for live migration of vm
across hosts

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Hi,

What do you mean by shared iscsi?
if you created a new iSCSI Storage Domain in the Data Center and it is active 
then all the hosts should see it while it is Active.

Regards,
Maor

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Re: [ovirt-users] shared storage with iscsi

2014-12-04 Thread Gianluca Cecchi
On Thu, Dec 4, 2014 at 4:23 PM, mad Engineer themadengin...@gmail.com
wrote:

 Thanks Maor,in non ovirt kvm setup i use GFS2 to make the block device
 shareable across multiple hosts.Could you tell me how is it achieved
 in ovirt.

 Regards


First step the admin guide:
http://www.ovirt.org/OVirt_Administration_Guide

and in particular the Storage chapter and the related iSCSI part:
http://www.ovirt.org/OVirt_Administration_Guide#.E2.81.A0Storage

Also, for multipath in case you need it:
http://www.ovirt.org/Feature/iSCSI-Multipath

HIH,
Gianluca
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Re: [ovirt-users] shared storage with iscsi

2014-12-04 Thread mad Engineer
Thanks Gianluca,it says only NFS is supported as export domain.I
believe export domain is the one i am currently using for live
migrating vms across hosts.So iscsi is not supported,please correct me
if i am wrong.Thanks for your help

On Thu, Dec 4, 2014 at 9:00 PM, Gianluca Cecchi
gianluca.cec...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Thu, Dec 4, 2014 at 4:23 PM, mad Engineer themadengin...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Thanks Maor,in non ovirt kvm setup i use GFS2 to make the block device
 shareable across multiple hosts.Could you tell me how is it achieved
 in ovirt.

 Regards


 First step the admin guide:
 http://www.ovirt.org/OVirt_Administration_Guide

 and in particular the Storage chapter and the related iSCSI part:
 http://www.ovirt.org/OVirt_Administration_Guide#.E2.81.A0Storage

 Also, for multipath in case you need it:
 http://www.ovirt.org/Feature/iSCSI-Multipath

 HIH,
 Gianluca
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Re: [ovirt-users] shared storage with iscsi

2014-12-04 Thread Nicolas Ecarnot

Le 04/12/2014 16:40, mad Engineer a écrit :

Thanks Gianluca,it says only NFS is supported as export domain.I
believe export domain is the one i am currently using for live
migrating vms across hosts.So iscsi is not supported,please correct me
if i am wrong.Thanks for your help


Sorry I did not read you were speaking about _EXPORT_ domain.

Then indeed, you're right, iSCSI is not supported for export domains.

In our case, we are providing some iSCSI LUNs as export domains via the 
managers which are serving them as NFS shares.

Performance is OK.



On Thu, Dec 4, 2014 at 9:00 PM, Gianluca Cecchi
gianluca.cec...@gmail.com wrote:

On Thu, Dec 4, 2014 at 4:23 PM, mad Engineer themadengin...@gmail.com
wrote:


Thanks Maor,in non ovirt kvm setup i use GFS2 to make the block device
shareable across multiple hosts.Could you tell me how is it achieved
in ovirt.

Regards



First step the admin guide:
http://www.ovirt.org/OVirt_Administration_Guide

and in particular the Storage chapter and the related iSCSI part:
http://www.ovirt.org/OVirt_Administration_Guide#.E2.81.A0Storage

Also, for multipath in case you need it:
http://www.ovirt.org/Feature/iSCSI-Multipath

HIH,
Gianluca

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Re: [ovirt-users] shared storage with iscsi

2014-12-04 Thread Amador Pahim

On 12/04/2014 12:40 PM, mad Engineer wrote:

Thanks Gianluca,it says only NFS is supported as export domain.


That's right.


I
believe export domain is the one i am currently using for live
migrating vms across hosts.


That's not true. You're not using the Export Domain to support live 
migrations. Your VMs are running in a regular Storage Domain (not Export 
Domain), probably NFS, and it could be iscsi.



So iscsi is not supported,please correct me
if i am wrong.Thanks for your help

On Thu, Dec 4, 2014 at 9:00 PM, Gianluca Cecchi
gianluca.cec...@gmail.com wrote:

On Thu, Dec 4, 2014 at 4:23 PM, mad Engineer themadengin...@gmail.com
wrote:

Thanks Maor,in non ovirt kvm setup i use GFS2 to make the block device
shareable across multiple hosts.Could you tell me how is it achieved
in ovirt.

Regards


First step the admin guide:
http://www.ovirt.org/OVirt_Administration_Guide

and in particular the Storage chapter and the related iSCSI part:
http://www.ovirt.org/OVirt_Administration_Guide#.E2.81.A0Storage

Also, for multipath in case you need it:
http://www.ovirt.org/Feature/iSCSI-Multipath

HIH,
Gianluca

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Re: [ovirt-users] shared storage with iscsi

2014-12-04 Thread mad Engineer
sorry i am wrong its the data domain that stores virtual disk images,I
have no idea how ovirt shares block device across hosts.Looks like i
need to try that for understanding how its implemented.In case of
vmware they uses vmfs file system for sharing block device among
hosts.I currently have no issues with my NFS shared storage so dont
have any plan to use iscsi,but just curious how the implementation
is.In my existing non ovirt environment,SAN block devices is exported
and its shared using GFS.Is ovirt using any simillar method to achieve
shared block device.



On Thu, Dec 4, 2014 at 9:10 PM, mad Engineer themadengin...@gmail.com wrote:
 Thanks Gianluca,it says only NFS is supported as export domain.I
 believe export domain is the one i am currently using for live
 migrating vms across hosts.So iscsi is not supported,please correct me
 if i am wrong.Thanks for your help

 On Thu, Dec 4, 2014 at 9:00 PM, Gianluca Cecchi
 gianluca.cec...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Thu, Dec 4, 2014 at 4:23 PM, mad Engineer themadengin...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Thanks Maor,in non ovirt kvm setup i use GFS2 to make the block device
 shareable across multiple hosts.Could you tell me how is it achieved
 in ovirt.

 Regards


 First step the admin guide:
 http://www.ovirt.org/OVirt_Administration_Guide

 and in particular the Storage chapter and the related iSCSI part:
 http://www.ovirt.org/OVirt_Administration_Guide#.E2.81.A0Storage

 Also, for multipath in case you need it:
 http://www.ovirt.org/Feature/iSCSI-Multipath

 HIH,
 Gianluca
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Re: [ovirt-users] shared storage with iscsi

2014-12-04 Thread Dan Yasny
On Thu, Dec 4, 2014 at 12:54 PM, mad Engineer themadengin...@gmail.com
wrote:

 sorry i am wrong its the data domain that stores virtual disk images,I
 have no idea how ovirt shares block device across hosts.Looks like i
 need to try that for understanding how its implemented.In case of
 vmware they uses vmfs file system for sharing block device among
 hosts.I currently have no issues with my NFS shared storage so dont
 have any plan to use iscsi,but just curious how the implementation
 is.In my existing non ovirt environment,SAN block devices is exported
 and its shared using GFS.Is ovirt using any simillar method to achieve
 shared block device.


oVirt uses a different approach altogether (this is why it can scale to
clusters with hundreds of hosts, unlike vmware). The idea is pretty simple
1. format the shared block storage with LVM
2. Every VM disk image is an LV
3. manage host access to separate LVs using simple lvchange.

Of course there's much more to the way this is implemented, but very simply
-  no two hosts have write access to the same LV, unless it is specified as
a shared disk, so no clustered FS is needed, no scsi reservations are
needed and this concept scales, unlike vmfs, gfs, and other such systems.






 On Thu, Dec 4, 2014 at 9:10 PM, mad Engineer themadengin...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  Thanks Gianluca,it says only NFS is supported as export domain.I
  believe export domain is the one i am currently using for live
  migrating vms across hosts.So iscsi is not supported,please correct me
  if i am wrong.Thanks for your help
 
  On Thu, Dec 4, 2014 at 9:00 PM, Gianluca Cecchi
  gianluca.cec...@gmail.com wrote:
  On Thu, Dec 4, 2014 at 4:23 PM, mad Engineer themadengin...@gmail.com
  wrote:
 
  Thanks Maor,in non ovirt kvm setup i use GFS2 to make the block device
  shareable across multiple hosts.Could you tell me how is it achieved
  in ovirt.
 
  Regards
 
 
  First step the admin guide:
  http://www.ovirt.org/OVirt_Administration_Guide
 
  and in particular the Storage chapter and the related iSCSI part:
  http://www.ovirt.org/OVirt_Administration_Guide#.E2.81.A0Storage
 
  Also, for multipath in case you need it:
  http://www.ovirt.org/Feature/iSCSI-Multipath
 
  HIH,
  Gianluca
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Re: [ovirt-users] shared storage with iscsi

2014-12-04 Thread Amador Pahim

On 12/04/2014 02:54 PM, mad Engineer wrote:

sorry i am wrong its the data domain that stores virtual disk images,I
have no idea how ovirt shares block device across hosts.Looks like i
need to try that for understanding how its implemented.In case of
vmware they uses vmfs file system for sharing block device among
hosts.I currently have no issues with my NFS shared storage so dont
have any plan to use iscsi,but just curious how the implementation
is.


It's not shared considering the lowest level. Each disk corresponds to a 
LVM logical volume, which is activated only on the specific hypervisor 
running the VM. Others hypervisors cannot access the logical volume 
while the VM is not running on it (except for shared disks). To activate 
the logical volume (in order to run the VM), hypervisor runs a lvchange 
-ay vol_group/logical_vol



In my existing non ovirt environment,SAN block devices is exported
and its shared using GFS.Is ovirt using any simillar method to achieve
shared block device.



On Thu, Dec 4, 2014 at 9:10 PM, mad Engineer themadengin...@gmail.com wrote:

Thanks Gianluca,it says only NFS is supported as export domain.I
believe export domain is the one i am currently using for live
migrating vms across hosts.So iscsi is not supported,please correct me
if i am wrong.Thanks for your help

On Thu, Dec 4, 2014 at 9:00 PM, Gianluca Cecchi
gianluca.cec...@gmail.com wrote:

On Thu, Dec 4, 2014 at 4:23 PM, mad Engineer themadengin...@gmail.com
wrote:

Thanks Maor,in non ovirt kvm setup i use GFS2 to make the block device
shareable across multiple hosts.Could you tell me how is it achieved
in ovirt.

Regards


First step the admin guide:
http://www.ovirt.org/OVirt_Administration_Guide

and in particular the Storage chapter and the related iSCSI part:
http://www.ovirt.org/OVirt_Administration_Guide#.E2.81.A0Storage

Also, for multipath in case you need it:
http://www.ovirt.org/Feature/iSCSI-Multipath

HIH,
Gianluca

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