Re: [SOGo] Migrationpath 3.x - 10.x ?
I have made a lot of tests on this. http://wiki.sogo.nu/TB-upgrade-3-to-10 Migration works, but only in two cases: - with and update URL as https:// but TB should have https cert installed (exception isn't enough) and i can do it only manually (bye bye automatic process!) - with and update URL on http:// but i should sign sogo-integrator addon with maccoy tool. This tool is only visual, no command line :-(, then i can't put it into an rpm. I need to automate everything. I test possibility to disable and re-enable secure check by Thunderbird, but it's impossible to make it automatically :-( Any ideas? Otherwise i must abandon this way :-| -- Alessio Fattorini (alessio.fattor...@nethesis.it) nethesis srl - Via degli Olmi 16/4 - 61100 Pesaro (PU) tel. +39 0721 405516 - fax +39 0721 268147 www.nethesis.it - i...@nethesis.it -- users@sogo.nu https://inverse.ca/sogo/lists
Re: [SOGo] Migrationpath 3.x - 10.x ?
You have 2 options. By an SSL cert or use http://www.softlights.net/projects/mxtools/ Le 2012-03-07 16:39, Alessio Fattorini a écrit : I have made a lot of tests on this. http://wiki.sogo.nu/TB-upgrade-3-to-10 Migration works, but only in two cases: - with and update URL as https:// but TB should have https cert installed (exception isn't enough) and i can do it only manually (bye bye automatic process!) - with and update URL on http:// but i should sign sogo-integrator addon with maccoy tool. This tool is only visual, no command line :-(, then i can't put it into an rpm. I need to automate everything. I test possibility to disable and re-enable secure check by Thunderbird, but it's impossible to make it automatically :-( Any ideas? Otherwise i must abandon this way :-| -- Alessio Fattorini (alessio.fattor...@nethesis.it) nethesis srl - Via degli Olmi 16/4 - 61100 Pesaro (PU) tel. +39 0721 405516 - fax +39 0721 268147 www.nethesis.it - i...@nethesis.it -- users@sogo.nu https://inverse.ca/sogo/lists
Re: [SOGo] Migrationpath 3.x - 10.x ?
Il 23/02/2012 13:54, Jakob Lenfers ha scritto: Jup, thanks, that worked. A bit more testing, cleaning up and documenting and we are good to go for TB10! Thanks to everyone who helped in any way! :) It Doesn't work for me :-( I see the request on httpd log but nothing. 192.168.5.20 - - [15/Feb/2012:19:08:12 +0100] GET /sogo-plugins/tbupdate.php HTTP/1.1 200 766 - Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:10.0) Gecko/20120130 Thunderbird/10.0 Lightning/1.2.1 this is my tbupdate.php and installl.rdf All url are correct. Can you help me? ?php header(Content-type: text/xml; charset=utf-8); echo ('?xml version=1.0?' . \n); ? r:RDF xmlns:r=http://www.w3.org/1999/02/22-rdf-syntax-ns#; xmlns=http://www.mozilla.org/2004/em-rdf#; r:Description about=urn:mozilla:extension:sogo-integra...@inverse.ca updates r:Seq r:li r:Description version10.0/version targetApplication r:Description id{3550f703-e582-4d05-9a08-453d09bdfdc6}/id minVersion10.0/minVersion maxVersion10.*/maxVersion updateLinkhttps://blizzard.nethesis.it/sogo-plugins/thunderbird10/sogo-integrator-10.0-sogo.xpi/updateLink /r:Description /targetApplication /r:Description /r:li /r:Seq /updates /r:Description /r:RDF ?xml version=1.0? !DOCTYPE RDF RDF xmlns=http://www.w3.org/1999/02/22-rdf-syntax-ns#; xmlns:em=http://www.mozilla.org/2004/em-rdf#; xmlns:NC=http://home.netscape.com/NC-rdf#; Description about=rdf:#$Iwquq2 em:id={3550f703-e582-4d05-9a08-453d09bdfdc6} em:minVersion=3.0 em:maxVersion=3.1.* / !-- em:optionsURL=chrome://sogo-integrator/content/general/preferences.xul -- Description about=urn:mozilla:install-manifest em:name=Inverse SOGo Integrator em:id=sogo-integra...@inverse.ca em:version=3.106pre1 em:description=A SOGo integration plugin for Thunderbird and Lightning em:iconURL=chrome://sogo-integrator/skin/sogo.png em:creator=Inverse lt;supp...@inverse.cagt; em:developer=Inverse lt;supp...@inverse.cagt; em:targetApplication resource=rdf:#$Iwquq2/ em:updateURLhttps://blizzard.nethesis.it/sogo-plugins/tbupdate.php /Description /RDF -- Alessio Fattorini (alessio.fattor...@nethesis.it) nethesis srl - Via degli Olmi 16/4 - 61100 Pesaro (PU) tel. +39 0721 405516 - fax +39 0721 268147 www.nethesis.it - i...@nethesis.it -- users@sogo.nu https://inverse.ca/sogo/lists
Re: [SOGo] Migrationpath 3.x - 10.x ?
Am 29.02.2012 15:01, schrieb Alessio Fattorini: It Doesn't work for me :-( I see the request on httpd log but nothing. 192.168.5.20 - - [15/Feb/2012:19:08:12 +0100] GET /sogo-plugins/tbupdate.php HTTP/1.1 200 766 - Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:10.0) Gecko/20120130 Thunderbird/10.0 Lightning/1.2.1 this is my tbupdate.php and installl.rdf [..] em:updateURLhttps://blizzard.nethesis.it/sogo-plugins/tbupdate.php This looks fishy, the tag isn't properly closed. And is your SSL certificate properly signed and recognized by Thunderbird? Hope to find the time to write some of my stuff down, still fighting with updates without user interaction... Best, Jakob -- users@sogo.nu https://inverse.ca/sogo/lists
Re: [SOGo] Migrationpath 3.x - 10.x ?
Am 11.02.2012 11:44, schrieb xbgmsharp: // Configure Thunderbird update // https://wiki.mozilla.org/Software_Update force_bool_pref(app.update.silent, true); force_bool_pref(app.update.enabled, true); force_bool_pref(app.update.auto, true); force_int_pref(app.update.mode, 1); Does anyone know an option to let Thunderbird update automatically without even asking the user? I've told them for the last couple of years that they cannot update, it would take some time to get them to do it again. :) I've set the options above (and all the others mentioned by xbgmsharp) and waited for 30mins and nothing happend. The rest of the update process works quite well (new extensions with the new update URL, update TB from our own servers and updating the extensions from our own servers), I would only like to have the update be automatically as well if possible. TIA, Jakob -- users@sogo.nu https://inverse.ca/sogo/lists
Re: [SOGo] Migrationpath 3.x - 10.x ?
Il 29/02/2012 15:29, Jakob Lenfers ha scritto: this is my tbupdate.php and installl.rdf [..] em:updateURLhttps://blizzard.nethesis.it/sogo-plugins/tbupdate.php Sorry, bad paste :-( the code is below This looks fishy, the tag isn't properly closed. And is your SSL certificate properly signed and recognized by Thunderbird? Yes i add the exception. If i install sogo-intergator10 manually, it works! ?xml version=1.0? !DOCTYPE RDF RDF xmlns=http://www.w3.org/1999/02/22-rdf-syntax-ns#; xmlns:em=http://www.mozilla.org/2004/em-rdf#; xmlns:NC=http://home.netscape.com/NC-rdf#; Description about=rdf:#$Iwquq2 em:id={3550f703-e582-4d05-9a08-453d09bdfdc6} em:minVersion=3.0 em:maxVersion=3.1.* / !-- em:optionsURL=chrome://sogo-integrator/content/general/preferences.xul -- Description about=urn:mozilla:install-manifest em:name=Inverse SOGo Integrator em:id=sogo-integra...@inverse.ca em:version=3.106pre2 em:description=A SOGo integration plugin for Thunderbird and Lightning em:iconURL=chrome://sogo-integrator/skin/sogo.png em:creator=Inverse lt;supp...@inverse.cagt; em:developer=Inverse lt;supp...@inverse.cagt; em:targetApplication resource=rdf:#$Iwquq2/ em:updateURLhttps://blizzard.nethesis.it/sogo-plugins/tbupdate.php/em:updateURL /Description /RDF -- Alessio Fattorini (alessio.fattor...@nethesis.it) nethesis srl - Via degli Olmi 16/4 - 61100 Pesaro (PU) tel. +39 0721 405516 - fax +39 0721 268147 www.nethesis.it - i...@nethesis.it -- users@sogo.nu https://inverse.ca/sogo/lists
Re: [SOGo] Migrationpath 3.x - 10.x ?
Am 29.02.2012 15:44, schrieb Alessio Fattorini: Il 29/02/2012 15:29, Jakob Lenfers ha scritto: This looks fishy, the tag isn't properly closed. And is your SSL certificate properly signed and recognized by Thunderbird? Yes i add the exception. I'm not sure if thats enough. I think the certificate has to be signed so that Thunderbird can check it against its certificates. You could try to import the root certificate you signed it with into your thunderbird, but thats not feasable on all the clients. I would use the method linked in the wiki to sign your extensions manually and use an http connection. If i install sogo-intergator10 manually, it works! Sure, because than it isn't checked. Clear the error console just before the update, start the extension update in the addon manager and check if there are errors in the error console. When I signed them wrong there were errors there. Jakob -- users@sogo.nu https://inverse.ca/sogo/lists
Re: [SOGo] Migrationpath 3.x - 10.x ?
Am 22.02.2012 14:35, schrieb André Schild: Am 22.02.2012 14:01, schrieb Jakob Lenfers: Am 22.02.2012 12:31, schrieb André Schild: http://wiki.sogo.nu/TB-upgrade-3-to-10 You mention on the page that I need to use https, does it work with self signed certificates (CACert)? I don't know if these are enough, but it would be simple to test.. Doesn't seem to work, too bad. This could also be a option for you: http://www.borngeek.com/firefox/automatic-firefox-extension-updates/ Jup, thanks, that worked. A bit more testing, cleaning up and documenting and we are good to go for TB10! Thanks to everyone who helped in any way! :) Best, Jakob signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [SOGo] Migrationpath 3.x - 10.x ?
Am 19.02.2012 18:36, schrieb xbgmsh...@gmail.com: Jakob Lenfers lenf...@bigsss-bremen.de a écrit : Looks very interesting, are you already using something like this? yes i use it in production since 2 years. It allow you to control TB update and avoid user updating to non supported version when Mozilla push a new version. However it should not be the case anymore with ESR version but still nice to have. Especially since an update should be tested nonetheless. could increase the internal version number of the extensions, add those changes into the plugins and update most of your clients automatically with that as far as I understand... Exactly You will need to add an additional parameter (em:updateURL, https://developer.mozilla.org/en/Install_Manifests) to fully supported the SOGo extensions to update from TB3.1 to TB10 I'm currently at a point where I have a PHP script to send the update-XML to the client and the client updates from tb3 to tb10. But after the update, I don't have my extensions anymore. If the mar file (see below) doesn't work out, has anyone any ideas on that? I changed the compatibility of the integrator to support TB10, but it doesn't seem to work anymore (at least it doesn't connect to my webserver) with TB10. :/ This is the problem with Mozilla, there is a lot missing documentation and when there is, it is unclear or obscure. Your update.php need to refrer to a mar file that can be on your server or on Mozilla server. The mar file are create by Mozilla so no need to modify them, except if you want additional customization like you do with addons. IT could be susefull to integarte an SSL cert but i never did it. It is also why all URL are in HTTP otherwise does not work. Thats what I've found out as well. Did I get it right, to create my own mar file, I'll need to compile TB on my own? Because that would be the best way to include the extensions after the update, but I cannot find a *good* documentation on how to create the mar file. (There is one for Linux, but I suppose it is written for people who are used to build their own mozilla software already... https://developer.mozilla.org/en/XULRunner/Application_Update) Having everything working and tested and documentated is more likely 2-3 days of works. I can sign that, thanks for the input! :) Jakob signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [SOGo] Migrationpath 3.x - 10.x ?
Am 22.02.2012 12:23, schrieb Jakob Lenfers: Am 19.02.2012 18:36, schrieb xbgmsh...@gmail.com: Jakob Lenferslenf...@bigsss-bremen.de a écrit : Looks very interesting, are you already using something like this? yes i use it in production since 2 years. It allow you to control TB update and avoid user updating to non supported version when Mozilla push a new version. However it should not be the case anymore with ESR version but still nice to have. Especially since an update should be tested nonetheless. could increase the internal version number of the extensions, add those changes into the plugins and update most of your clients automatically with that as far as I understand... Exactly You will need to add an additional parameter (em:updateURL, https://developer.mozilla.org/en/Install_Manifests) to fully supported the SOGo extensions to update from TB3.1 to TB10 I'm currently at a point where I have a PHP script to send the update-XML to the client and the client updates from tb3 to tb10. But after the update, I don't have my extensions anymore. If the mar file (see below) doesn't work out, has anyone any ideas on that? I changed the compatibility of the integrator to support TB10, but it doesn't seem to work anymore (at least it doesn't connect to my webserver) with TB10. :/ This is the problem with Mozilla, there is a lot missing documentation and when there is, it is unclear or obscure. Your update.php need to refrer to a mar file that can be on your server or on Mozilla server. The mar file are create by Mozilla so no need to modify them, except if you want additional customization like you do with addons. IT could be susefull to integarte an SSL cert but i never did it. It is also why all URL are in HTTP otherwise does not work. Thats what I've found out as well. Did I get it right, to create my own mar file, I'll need to compile TB on my own? Because that would be the best way to include the extensions after the update, but I cannot find a *good* documentation on how to create the mar file. (There is one for Linux, but I suppose it is written for people who are used to build their own mozilla software already... https://developer.mozilla.org/en/XULRunner/Application_Update) Having everything working and tested and documentated is more likely 2-3 days of works. I can sign that, thanks for the input! :) Jakob Why not go that way ? http://wiki.sogo.nu/TB-upgrade-3-to-10 The requirements are small (A https server for the update url) And as you have the update TB already in place this should also work André -- users@sogo.nu https://inverse.ca/sogo/lists
Re: [SOGo] Migrationpath 3.x - 10.x ?
Am 22.02.2012 12:31, schrieb André Schild: Why not go that way ? http://wiki.sogo.nu/TB-upgrade-3-to-10 The requirements are small (A https server for the update url) And as you have the update TB already in place this should also work Didn't knew that there was an entry in the wiki already. Looks promising, I'll probably try it out tomorrow, a quick test just now didn't work yet. You mention on the page that I need to use https, does it work with self signed certificates (CACert)? Regards, Jakob signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [SOGo] Migrationpath 3.x - 10.x ?
Am 22.02.2012 14:01, schrieb Jakob Lenfers: Am 22.02.2012 12:31, schrieb André Schild: Why not go that way ? http://wiki.sogo.nu/TB-upgrade-3-to-10 The requirements are small (A https server for the update url) And as you have the update TB already in place this should also work Didn't knew that there was an entry in the wiki already. Looks promising, I'll probably try it out tomorrow, a quick test just now didn't work yet. You mention on the page that I need to use https, does it work with self signed certificates (CACert)? I don't know if these are enough, but it would be simple to test.. This could also be a option for you: http://www.borngeek.com/firefox/automatic-firefox-extension-updates/ André -- users@sogo.nu https://inverse.ca/sogo/lists
Re: [SOGo] Migrationpath 3.x - 10.x ?
Jakob Lenfers lenf...@bigsss-bremen.de a écrit : On 11.02.2012 11:44, xbgmsharp wrote: // Configure Thunderbird update // https://wiki.mozilla.org/Software_Update force_bool_pref(app.update.silent, true); force_bool_pref(app.update.enabled, true); force_bool_pref(app.update.auto, true); force_int_pref(app.update.mode, 1); force_char_pref(app.update.url.override,http://sogo.${domain}/thunderbird/updates.php?version=%VERSION%target=%BUILD_TARGET%lang=%LOCALE%;); force_bool_pref(app.update.cert.requireBuiltIn, false); Looks very interesting, are you already using something like this? yes i use it in production since 2 years. It allow you to control TB update and avoid user updating to non supported version when Mozilla push a new version. However it should not be the case anymore with ESR version but still nice to have. could increase the internal version number of the extensions, add those changes into the plugins and update most of your clients automatically with that as far as I understand... Exactly You will need to add an additional parameter (em:updateURL, https://developer.mozilla.org/en/Install_Manifests) to fully supported the SOGo extensions to update from TB3.1 to TB10 I just quickly checked the wiki link, but I'm not quite sure if I get this completely: The updates.php has to reference some special .mar files, doesn't it? And I would need to generate my own .mar file, or could I get one somewhere for tb10esr? Does someone has a bit less brainstormy documentation and a more solution focused one? This is the problem with Mozilla, there is a lot missing documentation and when there is, it is unclear or obscure. Your update.php need to refrer to a mar file that can be on your server or on Mozilla server. The mar file are create by Mozilla so no need to modify them, except if you want additional customization like you do with addons. IT could be susefull to integarte an SSL cert but i never did it. It is also why all URL are in HTTP otherwise does not work. This is the url i use to download the mar file from my script. http://download.mozilla.org/?product=thunderbird-${version}-completeos=winlang=$mylang You can find it all link in this page: http://www.mozilla.org/thunderbird/organizations/all-esr.html Having everything working and tested and documentated is more likely 2-3 days of works. But seems very promising, thanks for the pointer! I hope I'll find some time tomorrow to play around with this. Jakob -- Thanks for using xbgm# / Devmon / BBwin. http://xbgm.sourceforge.net/ http://devmon.sourceforge.net/ http://bbwin.sourceforge.net/ Please feedback. -- users@sogo.nu https://inverse.ca/sogo/lists
Re: [SOGo] Migrationpath 3.x - 10.x ?
On 11.02.2012 11:44, xbgmsharp wrote: // Configure Thunderbird update // https://wiki.mozilla.org/Software_Update force_bool_pref(app.update.silent, true); force_bool_pref(app.update.enabled, true); force_bool_pref(app.update.auto, true); force_int_pref(app.update.mode, 1); force_char_pref(app.update.url.override,http://sogo.${domain}/thunderbird/updates.php?version=%VERSION%target=%BUILD_TARGET%lang=%LOCALE%;); force_bool_pref(app.update.cert.requireBuiltIn, false); Looks very interesting, are you already using something like this? I could increase the internal version number of the extensions, add those changes into the plugins and update most of your clients automatically with that as far as I understand... I just quickly checked the wiki link, but I'm not quite sure if I get this completely: The updates.php has to reference some special .mar files, doesn't it? And I would need to generate my own .mar file, or could I get one somewhere for tb10esr? Does someone has a bit less brainstormy documentation and a more solution focused one? But seems very promising, thanks for the pointer! I hope I'll find some time tomorrow to play around with this. Jakob signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [SOGo] Migrationpath 3.x - 10.x ?
Stéphane GAUDICHE stephane.gaudi...@esc-rennes.fr a écrit : Le 10/02/2012 15:10, Alessio Fattorini a écrit : Hi Alessio, Good question, i think that the only way is * update thunderbird how do you push Tb10ESR? Manually? // Configure Thunderbird update // https://wiki.mozilla.org/Software_Update force_bool_pref(app.update.silent, true); force_bool_pref(app.update.enabled, true); force_bool_pref(app.update.auto, true); force_int_pref(app.update.mode, 1); force_char_pref(app.update.url.override,http://sogo.${domain}/thunderbird/updates.php?version=%VERSION%target=%BUILD_TARGET%lang=%LOCALE%;); force_bool_pref(app.update.cert.requireBuiltIn, false); * disable old inverse addons It's done automatically as far I've already seen it. // https://developer.mozilla.org/en/Installing_extensions force_int_pref(extensions.autoDisableScopes, 0); force_bool_pref(app.update.silent, false); force_bool_pref(extensions.shownSelectionUI, true); * lightning should update itself automatically and the best for the end: Same as above * install manually new sogo-integrator (required i think) * auto-install integrator. Howto get that, smoothly! Same as above The users who updated(derived) from Tb3.1 to ... Tb10 are safe but it's wired and unstable cause it's works but with restriction [Calendar ok, mainly use, but no button]. I was thinking for my Tb3.1+light+integrator migration's user that we had to find a way to provide a connector version fully compatible with Tb3.1 and Tb10esr. This holy connector should able to push the information to Tb3.1 client to get the right update of Tb10 (THE esr one!) Maybe located on the sogo server, same place as the plugins folder? i.e: https:webmail.mydomain.com/*plugins/* or ../*Tb10esr/* (just to allowed migration phase) My others users (new users in TB10ESR) are, just, waiting for the moment! Other question: is it possible to ask to the integrator or connector to make Tb switch to Tb10 to Tb10ESR? You need to set this 'app.update.url.override' however the sogo extension can override any settings via 'defaults/preferences/site.js' You can push any other extension via 'chrome/content/extensions.rdf' both from the sogo-integrator extension. I search on canal keyword but Google doesn't help me (2010 posts or blogs) -- Stéphane -- users@sogo.nu https://inverse.ca/sogo/lists Please feedback. -- users@sogo.nu https://inverse.ca/sogo/lists
[SOGo] Migrationpath 3.x - 10.x ?
Hello, since the new connectors are in beta testing I wonder what the best upgrade path would be. When a user has TB 3.x with the sogo add ons installed we wish to upgrade them to TB 10 ESR with the new connectors. Creating new profiles is not a good idea, because we will loose all the customizings the users have done. (Accounts, Signatures, Addons etc.) When the user directly upgrades TB to 10ESR, then the sogo addons get deactivated and we have to manually download the new ones and install them. And upgrading the addons first is also no option, since they are (probably) not compatible with TB 3.x releases I could see this as a potential solution: - Build a extended integrator based on the TB3 code which is marked as TB10 compatible - That integrator will then distributed by the update.php script to all TB3 installations When the user then upgrades it's TB to v10, the update.php script then returns the new TB10 integrator... Is this a possible way to make a smooth upgrade path available for the users ? Or is there a better way for the upgrade ? André -- users@sogo.nu https://inverse.ca/sogo/lists
Re: [SOGo] Migrationpath 3.x - 10.x ?
Il 10/02/2012 12:32, André Schild ha scritto: Hello, since the new connectors are in beta testing I wonder what the best upgrade path would be. Good question, i think that the only way is * update thunderbird * disable old inverse addons * lightning should update itself automatically * install manually new sogo-integrator (required i think) * auto-install integrator. -- Alessio Fattorini (alessio.fattor...@nethesis.it) nethesis srl - Via degli Olmi 16/4 - 61100 Pesaro (PU) tel. +39 0721 405516 - fax +39 0721 268147 www.nethesis.it - i...@nethesis.it -- users@sogo.nu https://inverse.ca/sogo/lists
Re: [SOGo] Migrationpath 3.x - 10.x ?
What we have done is: * Un-install lightning, connector, integrator * remove calendar-data folder from user's profile * install TB 10 ESR over 3.1 and configure any options (proxy, disable updates, etc) * install lightning, connector, and integrator We do this, so the user gets a fresh copy of the calendar cache, we have noticed that it is smaller than in the 3.1.x versions - it does take some time to initially build the cache but we feel it's better and could present less problems down the road with corrupt cache files... Cheers, Ryan On 2/10/2012 8:10 AM, Alessio Fattorini wrote: Il 10/02/2012 12:32, André Schild ha scritto: Hello, since the new connectors are in beta testing I wonder what the best upgrade path would be. Good question, i think that the only way is * update thunderbird * disable old inverse addons * lightning should update itself automatically * install manually new sogo-integrator (required i think) * auto-install integrator. -- Ryan Evans Business Development Account Manager Gulf Interstate Engineering Company 16010 Barkers Point Lane, Suite 600 Houston, Texas 77079-9000 USA Office: 713-850-3604 Cell: 281-413-2900 Privileged, Proprietary and/or Confidential Information may be contained in this electronic message. If you are not the intended recipient, you should not copy it, re-transmit it, use it or disclose its contents, but should kindly return to the sender immediately and delete your copy from your system. Gulf Interstate Engineering Company does not accept responsibility for changes made to this electronic message or its attachments. -- users@sogo.nu https://inverse.ca/sogo/lists
Re: [SOGo] Migrationpath 3.x - 10.x ?
Le 10/02/2012 15:10, Alessio Fattorini a écrit : Hi Alessio, Good question, i think that the only way is * update thunderbird how do you push Tb10ESR? Manually? * disable old inverse addons It's done automatically as far I've already seen it. * lightning should update itself automatically and the best for the end: * install manually new sogo-integrator (required i think) * auto-install integrator. Howto get that, smoothly! The users who updated(derived) from Tb3.1 to ... Tb10 are safe but it's wired and unstable cause it's works but with restriction [Calendar ok, mainly use, but no button]. I was thinking for my Tb3.1+light+integrator migration's user that we had to find a way to provide a connector version fully compatible with Tb3.1 and Tb10esr. This holy connector should able to push the information to Tb3.1 client to get the right update of Tb10 (THE esr one!) Maybe located on the sogo server, same place as the plugins folder? i.e: https:webmail.mydomain.com/*plugins/* or ../*Tb10esr/* (just to allowed migration phase) My others users (new users in TB10ESR) are, just, waiting for the moment! Other question: is it possible to ask to the integrator or connector to make Tb switch to Tb10 to Tb10ESR? I search on canal keyword but Google doesn't help me (2010 posts or blogs) -- Stéphane -- users@sogo.nu https://inverse.ca/sogo/lists