Re: [SOGo] Outlook Integration / Active Directory

2012-10-11 Thread Sven Tegethoff

On 10.10.2012 16:30, Wolfgang Sourdeau wrote:






I do understand the part with the Exchange schema, and installing the
demo is a nice trick. However mirror domain controller is not a term
I'm familiar with, and it doesn't exist in the samba4 documentation
either :) So, I'm sorry if that's a dumb question, but what exactly are
you referring to?


No, that term is my own invention. In previous versions of Windows 
(NT) servers, you had the concept of Primary and Backup domain 
controllers (PDC, BDC). With versions = 2003 (I think, it could even 
be 2000), since MS started to use an ldap implementation named active 
directory, the role of what used to be a BDC no longer exists. So 
you can only have one or many domain controllers. In fact, you will 
always have a master, since this is the one you will likely 
reference when using its ip, but basically, all domain controllers 
handling the same domain will be replicas, hence my naming of 
mirror. Because here, the goal is that the domain controller handled 
on the OpenChange machine should not be modified locally.




Aha! So do I understand this correctly: Although the documentation that 
 joining Samba 4 to your Active Directory domain as a member will 
currently not work, the actual process of joining the domain with 
samba4 as another DC actually DOES work, but will break if you use any 
of the samba tools to actually manager users, but I'll be fine as long 
as all changes in the directory happen exclusively through the 
replication with the existing domain? That would be okay ... in fact 
that's how I was planning to do it anyways :)


I'd love to set up samba4 as read-only domain controller - something 
that samba claims to partially support, but the last documentation 
update seems to be from 2010, and I'm not quite sure how usable that 
feature has become by now. One document says it's in its very infancy, 
but another document lists all except one to do item as finished. 
Not quite sure what to make of that. Has anybody here ever tried it?


best regards,

Sven


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Re: [SOGo] Outlook Integration / Active Directory

2012-10-11 Thread Wolfgang Sourdeau




Aha! So do I understand this correctly: Although the documentation 
that  joining Samba 4 to your Active Directory domain as a member 
will currently not work, the actual process of joining the domain 
with samba4 as another DC actually DOES work, but will break if you 
use any of the samba tools to actually manager users, but I'll be fine 
as long as all changes in the directory happen exclusively through the 
replication with the existing domain? That would be okay ... in fact 
that's how I was planning to do it anyways :)
What is mentionned is that using samba as a member server does not 
work. A member server is actually a regular client with the privilege 
of forwarding authentication for certain applications. That's how 
OpenChange should actually be used and that's what we never managed to 
make work yet.




I'd love to set up samba4 as read-only domain controller - something 
that samba claims to partially support, but the last documentation 
update seems to be from 2010, and I'm not quite sure how usable that 
feature has become by now. One document says it's in its very 
infancy, but another document lists all except one to do item as 
finished. Not quite sure what to make of that. Has anybody here ever 
tried it?


Ah, yet another thing. read-only domain controller does not work yet.


Wolfgang

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Re: [SOGo] Outlook Integration / Active Directory

2012-10-10 Thread Sven Tegethoff

On 09.10.2012 23:30, Wolfgang Sourdeau wrote:

On 2012-10-09 07:02, Sven Tegethoff wrote:

Hi everyone,

the current documentation for Outlook integration notes that joining
Samba 4 to your Active Directory domain as a member will currently 
not work. An
authentication bug is present in Samba 4 which then prevents all 
Outlook users to successfully
authenticate through Samba 4. This issue has been reported to the 
Samba team and is being

worked on.

Is that still the case, or does anybody have a link (eg. to a samba4 
bugzilla entry) where I can get up to date information? At the 
moment, this is pretty much a showstopper for me, unless someone has 
come up with a method of externally synching the samba4 directory 
with an existing domain controller... :(


We are still working on that issue on our side. It seems the use of 
Samba as a mirror domain controller is working though. First you need 
to make sure the Exchange schema is installed  on the master 
machine. You can do that by installing and uninstall Exchange demo. 
After that, the provisioning scripts from openchange should work fine.




I do understand the part with the Exchange schema, and installing the 
demo is a nice trick. However mirror domain controller is not a term 
I'm familiar with, and it doesn't exist in the samba4 documentation 
either :) So, I'm sorry if that's a dumb question, but what exactly are 
you referring to?


Best Regards,

Sven

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Re: [SOGo] Outlook Integration / Active Directory

2012-10-10 Thread Wolfgang Sourdeau






I do understand the part with the Exchange schema, and installing the
demo is a nice trick. However mirror domain controller is not a term
I'm familiar with, and it doesn't exist in the samba4 documentation
either :) So, I'm sorry if that's a dumb question, but what exactly are
you referring to?


No, that term is my own invention. In previous versions of Windows (NT) 
servers, you had the concept of Primary and Backup domain 
controllers (PDC, BDC). With versions = 2003 (I think, it could even be 
2000), since MS started to use an ldap implementation named active 
directory, the role of what used to be a BDC no longer exists. So you 
can only have one or many domain controllers. In fact, you will always 
have a master, since this is the one you will likely reference when 
using its ip, but basically, all domain controllers handling the same 
domain will be replicas, hence my naming of mirror. Because here, the 
goal is that the domain controller handled on the OpenChange machine 
should not be modified locally.



Wolfgang

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