Re: Earthlink emails

2006-09-29 Thread Ramprasad
On Thu, 2006-09-28 at 19:11 -0700, jdow wrote:
 From: Ramprasad [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
  On Tue, 2006-09-26 at 21:28 -0700, jdow wrote:
  Before you blame Earthlink note that it has NOT gone through Earthlink
  servers.
  
  relay2.corp.good-sam.com is the receiving email server.
  
  It's a forged email, at a guess. (It also has mangled headers. Newlines
  are missing. MAYBE it would do better if you sent it plain text. HTML
  tends to mangle things.
  {^_^}
  
  Nobody would blame earthlink for the mail , But Most of the spams to my
  clients come from earthlink.net.( sometimes as high as 20% of spams
  Yahoo comes in next with ~10% )
 
 How do you determine this? Is it by a legitimate domain keys tested
 Earthlink SMTP or does it simply say it came from Earthlink? I see
 a lot of mail that SAYS it came from Earthlink. But there is not a
 single Earthlink name in any of the Received headers. It's forged.
 
I am going by envelope from only. Obviously can be forged



  I have written to them several times that their domain is being forged
  heavily by spammers but they refuse to take any action 
 
 Explain how they can take any action? How can Earthlink stop it? They
 do sue in particularly blatent cases. But if it's some other ISP with
 a user forging Earthlink names what on Earth do you expect Earthlink
 to do?
 
  Apparently they have removed SPF records after publishing them once.
  Thats a stupid idea IMHO. Today I am forced to TEMP FAIL earthlink ids
  whenever there is a spam attack on my servers 
 
 They went to domain keys. It seems to be better for the Earthlink
 situation.
 {^_^}

Why not SPF ??
DK is a resource HOG. And I cant do that easily in postfix ,( I know you
will point to dk-milter )

What is the point accepting the mail and the entire data and then
scanning for DK when It should have ideally been rejected after 
mail from:

So I let SA do the testing .. which catches the spams but eats resources
of my servers. When you receive 3-5 million mails a day you tend to
bother more about resources

Thanks
Ram






Re: Earthlink emails

2006-09-29 Thread Ramprasad
On Thu, 2006-09-28 at 11:05 -0700, Loren Wilton wrote:
  Apparently they have removed SPF records after publishing them once.
  Thats a stupid idea IMHO. Today I am forced to TEMP FAIL earthlink ids
  whenever there is a spam attack on my servers
 
 SPF can be a pain for a number of reasons that have been discussed 
 endlessly.  I suspect Dirtlink found them to be effectively useless.
 
 Why not try using domainkeys instead?
 
 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws;
   s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net;
   b=FB4IOaniCvpDwkx5cYm2jFWe8LB9zRfxL9FHzbhv1JHyGSVrA0o4mttb3jjbU4C3;
   
 h=Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:To:Subject:Cc:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP;
 
 Loren

Darn,
I dont want to again get into SPF debates. 

Assume I am using domain keys and catching all spams forged from
earthlink , still I am scanning the mails. 

Anyway that is already happening today. SA is catching spams from
earthlink( forged ?) but when you scan a huge number of mails you would
like to be able to reject forged mails straight after mail from:. 
That is what SPF lets you do and that works. 
   
   No wonder a lot of spammers have stopped forging hotmail or msn
because most of those mails dont even get thru the MTA. And a majority
of the forged spams I still get is from earthlink or yahoo.

Thanks
Ram




Re: really slow spamd scan

2006-09-29 Thread Deephay

Greetings,

I think I have diabled the DNS and URI lookups and Razor/Pyzor/DCC,
and it still takes around 1x seconds to scan one email, but we have a
little power supply problem at this moment so I cannot check the
configuration file, I'll check it later.
I still think it may be caused by the UTF-8 locale. Since the load of
that mail server is not high, so may be I just let it there for a
moment if I cannot find where the problem is.

Regards,
Deephay


Re: really slow spamd scan

2006-09-29 Thread Olivier Nicole
 I think I have diabled the DNS and URI lookups and Razor/Pyzor/DCC,
 and it still takes around 1x seconds to scan one email, but we have a
 little power supply problem at this moment so I cannot check the
 configuration file, I'll check it later.

Are you using smapc/spamd or plain spamassassin?

And I think there is a way to tell spamassassin to report what tests
actually take some time to execute, so you can see where you are
loosing time.

Bests,

Olivier


Re: uridnsbl error, info what?

2006-09-29 Thread Jeff Chan
On Saturday, September 2, 2006, 8:43:21 PM, Chris Chris wrote:
 On Saturday 02 September 2006 8:46 am, SM wrote:
 At 20:22 01-09-2006, Chris wrote:
 I've been testing OpenDNS tonight vice using Earthlinks DNS nameservers.
 Looking at my hourly syslog snip, about half way through my NANAS run I
 noticed the below entries.  First of all, what are these entries telling


 Turn off the typo correction feature of OpenDNS.

 Regards,
 -sm

 Thanks, went there and did that, I'll see how it goes now. Odd also that 
 after I went back and started using OpenDNS I finally got their 'welcome' 
 page, then after a bit went back and got the 'oops' page. Seems to be 
 working though, nslookup shows I'm using their nameservers.


Question for Chris:

Did turning off the typo correction feature of OpenDNS cause the
SURBL lookups (both hits and misses) to start working again?  If
so we may want to add it to our FAQ, given that others may be
having similar issues. 

Jeff C.
-- 
Jeff Chan
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.surbl.org/



Re: Setting up DKIM and DomainKeys mail signing and verification

2006-09-29 Thread Mark Martinec
Henrik,

 My users ARE identifyied by either locally trusted IPS or pop-before-smtp,
 i.e. thery end up in mynetworks, but they are STILL verified by the
 incoming filter.. And I'm using your suggested setup very strictly..?!

 As far as I can see, the incoming milter(s) DOES get invoked for ALL
 incoming mail on port 25.. Am I missing something?

I see, you are quite right. I haven't noticed it because no header fields
are inserted by these two verifying milters when there is no signature
present and dk policy does not claim that a domain is signing all mail.

A solution would be to separate mail submission from MX, e.g. by
providing another dedicated IP alias address on a mailer for
mail submission (or keeping existing address for submission,
and pointing MX to a new IP alias).

 But I have found out that adding -d mydomain.net to the incoming filter
 actually solved this issue, as this means that my own mail does not get
 verified.. But neither will anyone spoofing being from my own doamin..

Good. A waste of resources is still there, but at least the verification
does not fail. Something still needs to be done to prevent SA plugins
DK and DKIM from complaining about non-signed mail from local users.

  Mark


Re: Non-blocklisted embedded URLs are getting hits on URIBL_AB_SURBL and URIBL_PH_SURBL in SpamAssassin 3.1.5

2006-09-29 Thread Jeff Chan
On Wednesday, September 27, 2006, 11:17:59 PM, Donald Craig wrote:
 And Theo Van Dinter pointed out:
 You're not by chance using the opendns.{com,org} folks for DNS, are you?

 Of course.  I'm an idiot.  I switched to OpenDNS a couple of weeks back.
 Time to return from whence I came.  Thank you,
 Don Craig
  
 I'm getting matches whenever I have an embedded URL
 on URIBL_AB_SURBL and URIBL_PH_SURBL -
 unless the URL is actually in URIBL_SBL, in which case the
 logic for all the flavors of URIBL_XX_SURBL seems
 to work correctly.  I have verified the
 absence of the incorrectly matching URLs from SURBL
 with lookups in http://www.rulesemporium.com/cgi-bin/uribl.cgi

 This is SpamAssassin 3.1.5, all was fine in 3.1.2.

 For now I have set both those tests to 0.00.

 Don Craig



Thanks for the reminder guys.  I've added the following note
about OpenDNS compatibility to the SURBL FAQ:
__

  http://www.surbl.org/faq.html#opendns

I'm using OpenDNS and getting wrong answers to SURBL DNS queries

OpenDNS is a service that changes the responses to some DNS
queries in order to prevent users from visiting spam, phishing,
etc., sites. It also has a typo correction feature that directs
mistyped domain names to custom sites controlled by OpenDNS
instead of sites controlled by typosquatters, phishers, etc.

When using SURBLs with an OpenDNS nameserver it's important to
disable the typo correction feature, or the responses to
non-matching SURBL queries will be incorrect to a SURBL
application. The reason is that the OpenDNS nameservers return an
IP address of their own web site in those cases, and that
modified IP address will have an incorrect effect on SURBL list
identification that depends on where the bit patterns happen to
be in the modified response.

SURBLs will work with OpenDNS if their typo correction feature is
disabled on servers or clients doing SURBL queries.

__

Does that look about right?

Jeff C.
-- 
Jeff Chan
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.surbl.org/



Re: Earthlink emails

2006-09-29 Thread Michel Vaillancourt
Ramprasad wrote:
 
 Why not SPF ??

Over two thirds of the email I receive that is UCE/Spam has an 
SPF_PASS associated with it from SA.  All SPF seems to do is make the 
stupid spammers look more stupid.  The clever ones aren't affected.

 DK is a resource HOG. And I cant do that easily in postfix ,( I know you
 will point to dk-milter )
 
http://jason.long.name/dkfilter/   ...  Postfix specific implementation 
using the Sourceforge/ OpenSource adoptation of the DK standards.

 What is the point accepting the mail and the entire data and then
 scanning for DK when It should have ideally been rejected after 
 mail from:
 

That would be the exact point of DK at the Postfix/ MTA level.

 So I let SA do the testing .. which catches the spams but eats resources
 of my servers. When you receive 3-5 million mails a day you tend to
 bother more about resources
 
I would humbly submit to you that if you move that much traffic, you 
should be able to justify one more MX machine in the pool and implementing DK.

 Thanks
 Ram
 
Another point here is that SPF and DK are NOT mutually exclusive 
technologies.  If a thirty-customer/ 10k message-a-day shop like me can 
implement both, I am sure that a Big Shop like yours can.

-- 
--Michel Vaillancourt
Wolfstar Systems
www.wolfstar.ca


RE: local.cf auto learn configs and defaults?

2006-09-29 Thread Bowie Bailey
Email Lists wrote:
 -
 - You can clear the AWL for a sender like this:
 -
 - spamassassin --remove-addr-from-whitelist [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 -
 - ([EMAIL PROTECTED] is the sender)
 -
 - Make sure you do this as the user who is having the problem.
 -
 -  Thanks and kind regards
 -
 - If this doesn't help, post the headers from one of the messages so
 - that we can see which rules are hitting.
 -
 - --
 - Bowie
 
 Can this removal be a wildcard?
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 Remember the test rule created was for a whole functional domain

I think it has to be done for each address (and also for each
recipient).

The good news is that the AWL will gradually fix itself.  Once these
emails are no longer receiving high scores (before the AWL rule), the
AWL will start lowering it's score back to reasonable levels.

-- 
Bowie


RE: .spamassin folder not created after bugfix #4932

2006-09-29 Thread Jo for Groups and Lists
With regards to my post on Sept 8, I have not seen any responses. No
one else is having this issue with the .spamassassin folder not
always being created for a new user?

This bit of code is mixing up the unix username for the last message
filtered [for a pre-existing SA user] rather than the username for
the current message being filtered [for a new SA user].


  # bug 4932: use the last default_userstate_dir entry if none of
the others 
  # already exist 
  $fname ||= $self-sed_path($default_userstate_dir[-1]); 


If I manually create the new user's /.spamassassin/ folder, the
user_prefs does get installed as expected. Or if 2 messages for this
same user come in immediately in sequence, the first message fails
to do it, but the second message will successfully cause the
creation of the folder and prefs file. Because the 'last' in this
case just happens to be the same user.

Jo 



Re: can't get Bayesian to work when invoked from postfix - SOLVED

2006-09-29 Thread Peter Teunissen

Hi All,

With the great help of Michel Valliancourt I managed to solve my  
bayesian problem. Solution, for the archives, is below


On 26-sep-2006, at 21:13, Peter Teunissen wrote:



After having trained SA with sufficient amounts of ham  spam, I  
have bayesian testing working. When I test it with spamassassin -D  
 testmessage as root it works flawlessly. But, when postfix  
invokes spamc with user filter, bayes always fails.


I tested this by running spamassassing -D  tesmessage as user  
filter and saw some permission errors as shown in the debug output  
at the end of this mail.


I see two things going wrong:
1. it tries to create userprefs for filter, not lethal I guess. How  
can I keep SA from doing this when invoked from postfix? I use it  
system wide, so no user prefs are needed. There's no option for  
spamc mentioned in the manpage to make it run system wide only.


Turned out that since I created the user filter spamd runs as with / 
dev/null for a home folder. Changed that to the directory where my  
bayes db resides. Problem 1 solved.


2. More seriously, it cannot access /var/spool/spamassassin, so it  
can't use the  bayes DB or the whitelist. But this directory is  
world readable and writable:


I had, due to a lack of knowledge on unix file permissions, not made  
the directory accesible to the user SA runs at; it could read and  
write the dir, but not execute. I changed the directory so it is  
owned by user filter and chmoded it to 0755. The contents are also  
owned by filter and chmoded to 0660.


Eh voila, bayesian works.

Thanks Michel!



Peter




Re: Non-blocklisted embedded URLs are getting hits on URIBL_AB_SURBL and URIBL_PH_SURBL in SpamAssassin 3.1.5

2006-09-29 Thread Donald Craig




Well I think the FAQ note is a good idea, since a hyperactive
DNS server wasn't the first thing I thought of when I saw
this problem. However, turning off the OpenDNS hyperactivity
does require a fixed IP address to originate the queries - I
found it easier to use OpenDNS for my desktops, and switch
to something else for the SpamAssassin server.

cheers,
Don Craig

Jeff Chan wrote:

  On Wednesday, September 27, 2006, 11:17:59 PM, Donald Craig wrote:
  
  
And Theo Van Dinter pointed out:
You're not by chance using the opendns.{com,org} folks for DNS, are you?

  
  Of course.  I'm an idiot.  I switched to OpenDNS a couple of weeks back.
Time to return from whence I came.  Thank you,
Don Craig
 
I'm getting matches whenever I have an embedded URL
on URIBL_AB_SURBL and URIBL_PH_SURBL -
unless the URL is actually in URIBL_SBL, in which case the
logic for all the flavors of URIBL_XX_SURBL seems
to work correctly.  I have verified the
absence of the incorrectly matching URLs from SURBL
with lookups in http://www.rulesemporium.com/cgi-bin/uribl.c
  This is SpamAssassin 3.1.5, all was fine in 3.1.2.
  
  For now I have set both those tests to 0.00.
  
  Don Craig

  



  
Thanks for the reminder guys.  I've added the following note
about OpenDNS compatibility to the SURBL FAQ:
__

  http://www.surbl.org/faq.html#opendns

"I'm using OpenDNS and getting wrong answers to SURBL DNS queries

OpenDNS is a service that changes the responses to some DNS
queries in order to prevent users from visiting spam, phishing,
etc., sites. It also has a "typo correction" feature that directs
mistyped domain names to custom sites controlled by OpenDNS
instead of sites controlled by typosquatters, phishers, etc.

When using SURBLs with an OpenDNS nameserver it's important to
disable the typo correction feature, or the responses to
non-matching SURBL queries will be incorrect to a SURBL
application. The reason is that the OpenDNS nameservers return an
IP address of their own web site in those cases, and that
modified IP address will have an incorrect effect on SURBL list
identification that depends on where the bit patterns happen to
be in the modified response.

SURBLs will work with OpenDNS if their typo correction feature is
disabled on servers or clients doing SURBL queries."

__

Does that look about right?

Jeff C.

  





Re: Earthlink emails

2006-09-29 Thread Ramprasad
On Fri, 2006-09-29 at 08:12 -0400, Michel Vaillancourt wrote:
 Ramprasad wrote:
  
  Why not SPF ??
 
   Over two thirds of the email I receive that is UCE/Spam has an 
 SPF_PASS associated with it from SA.  All SPF seems to do is make the 
 stupid spammers look more stupid.  The clever ones aren't affected.
 
I have a script that automatically blocks SPF-pass domains sending spam
consistently. you could make good use of the SPF_PASS too. 


  DK is a resource HOG. And I cant do that easily in postfix ,( I know you
  will point to dk-milter )
  
   http://jason.long.name/dkfilter/   ...  Postfix specific implementation 
 using the Sourceforge/ OpenSource adoptation of the DK standards.
 
  What is the point accepting the mail and the entire data and then
  scanning for DK when It should have ideally been rejected after 
  mail from:
  
 
   That would be the exact point of DK at the Postfix/ MTA level.
 

How. All the while I thought dkfilter helps me block after dataend ? Do
I have to RTFM again ? 




  So I let SA do the testing .. which catches the spams but eats resources
  of my servers. When you receive 3-5 million mails a day you tend to
  bother more about resources
  
   I would humbly submit to you that if you move that much traffic, you 
 should be able to justify one more MX machine in the pool and implementing DK.
 
We have 8 dual xeons already. for this much traffic. And servers are
always loaded with all kinds tests enabled in SA  


  Thanks
  Ram
  
   Another point here is that SPF and DK are NOT mutually exclusive 
 technologies.  If a thirty-customer/ 10k message-a-day shop like me can 
 implement both, I am sure that a Big Shop like yours can.
 



Re: Earthlink emails

2006-09-29 Thread Michel Vaillancourt
Ramprasad wrote:
 On Fri, 2006-09-29 at 08:12 -0400, Michel Vaillancourt wrote:
 Ramprasad wrote:
 Why not SPF ??
  Over two thirds of the email I receive that is UCE/Spam has an 
 SPF_PASS associated with it from SA.  All SPF seems to do is make the 
 stupid spammers look more stupid.  The clever ones aren't affected.

 I have a script that automatically blocks SPF-pass domains sending spam
 consistently. you could make good use of the SPF_PASS too. 
 

Care to share?  This would be very handy.

 What is the point accepting the mail and the entire data and then
 scanning for DK when It should have ideally been rejected after 
 mail from:

  That would be the exact point of DK at the Postfix/ MTA level.
 
 How. All the while I thought dkfilter helps me block after dataend ? Do
 I have to RTFM again ? 
 
My mistake..  this one runs as a content filter.  The same author is 
working on a DKIM Proxy that would be your first point-of-contact and handle 
the mail from intercept.  I got confused.

 
 So I let SA do the testing .. which catches the spams but eats resources
 of my servers. When you receive 3-5 million mails a day you tend to
 bother more about resources

  I would humbly submit to you that if you move that much traffic, you 
 should be able to justify one more MX machine in the pool and implementing 
 DK.

 We have 8 dual xeons already. for this much traffic. And servers are
 always loaded with all kinds tests enabled in SA  
 
I'm curious... what is the RAM/ MHz spec of your machines?  5M mail/day 
is 7 mail per second per machine...  at a median 8 seconds mail handle time, 
that is 57 mail in the pipes at any one time...  50Mb for SA or anti-virus per 
message works to about 3Gb of RAM in use.  I can see your concern.  However, 
again, I'd say that even two more machines in the pool would bring that down to 
~2GB of RAM in use per machine, and that should give you the cycles and memory 
to run SPF queries as well as DK filters.

I do understand the notion your boss might not be willing to put 
another $5K down to deal with the problem.  However, as anyone  can attest to, 
good customer service costs money to provide.

-- 
--Michel Vaillancourt
Wolfstar Systems
www.wolfstar.ca


Ammount of the RAM used by spamd childs

2006-09-29 Thread Balzi Andrea
Hi

I've the problem with my spamassassin.
I'm using spamassassin with exim (MTA) and clamav (AntiVirus).
My spamassassin start with the follow command line:

/usr/sbin/spamd --syslog=local4 --create-prefs --max-children 10
--max-conn-per-child=100 --helper-home-dir -d
--pidfile=/var/run/spamd.pid

every child it occupies approximately 450MB of RAM.

My server is a GNU/Linux Debian 3.1r2 with spamassassin v3.1.5 and Perl
v5.8.4
Aren't it too many every 450MB for single child?

Andrea


Re: really slow spamd scan

2006-09-29 Thread Deephay

On 9/29/06, Olivier Nicole [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I think I have diabled the DNS and URI lookups and Razor/Pyzor/DCC,
 and it still takes around 1x seconds to scan one email, but we have a
 little power supply problem at this moment so I cannot check the
 configuration file, I'll check it later.

Are you using smapc/spamd or plain spamassassin?

it is spamc/spamd..


And I think there is a way to tell spamassassin to report what tests
actually take some time to execute, so you can see where you are
loosing time.

How can I do that?
thx a lot!


Bests,

Olivier



RE: Ammount of the RAM used by spamd childs

2006-09-29 Thread Bowie Bailey
Balzi Andrea wrote:
 Hi
 
 I've the problem with my spamassassin.
 I'm using spamassassin with exim (MTA) and clamav (AntiVirus).
 My spamassassin start with the follow command line:
 
 /usr/sbin/spamd --syslog=local4 --create-prefs --max-children 10
 --max-conn-per-child=100 --helper-home-dir -d
 --pidfile=/var/run/spamd.pid
 
 every child it occupies approximately 450MB of RAM.
 
 My server is a GNU/Linux Debian 3.1r2 with spamassassin v3.1.5 and
 Perl v5.8.4
 Aren't it too many every 450MB for single child?

That is a bit excessive.  My first guess is that you have WAY too many
add-on rule sets (or you are using old ones that should not be used).

Which rule sets are you currently using?

-- 
Bowie


RE: Ammount of the RAM used by spamd childs

2006-09-29 Thread Balzi Andrea
 -Original Message-
[...]
  every child it occupies approximately 450MB of RAM.
  
  My server is a GNU/Linux Debian 3.1r2 with spamassassin v3.1.5 and 
  Perl v5.8.4 Aren't it too many every 450MB for single child?
 
 That is a bit excessive.  My first guess is that you have WAY 
 too many add-on rule sets (or you are using old ones that 
 should not be used).
 
 Which rule sets are you currently using?
 

I'm usign the default rules of spamassassin 3.1.5 with the follow rules
downloaded from rulesemporium:

TRIPWIRE
ANTIDRUG
SARE_EVILNUMBERS0
SARE_EVILNUMBERS1
SARE_EVILNUMBERS2
BLACKLIST
BLACKLIST_URI
RANDOMVAL
BOGUSVIRUS
SARE_ADULT
SARE_FRAUD
SARE_BML
SARE_RATWARE
SARE_SPOOF
SARE_BAYES_POISON_NXM
SARE_OEM
SARE_RANDOM
SARE_HEADER
SARE_HEADER_ENG
SARE_HTML
SARE_HTML4
SARE_HTML_ENG
SARE_SPECIFIC
SARE_OBFU
SARE_OBFU2
SARE_OBFU3
SARE_REDIRECT_POST300
SARE_SPAMCOP_TOP200
SARE_GENLSUBJ
SARE_GENLSUBJ_ENG
SARE_HIGHRISK
SARE_UNSUB
SARE_URI0
SARE_URI1
SARE_URI2
SARE_URI3
SARE_URI_ENG
SARE_WHITELIST
SARE_STOCKS
SARE_GENLSUBJ4
OUR_WHITELIST (about 296 entry)
OUR_BLACKLIST (about 27 entry)
OUR_RULES (about 35 rules that check subject)

Andrea


Re: bayes sync is hogging cpu

2006-09-29 Thread Andreas Pettersson

Bret Miller wrote:


I used to have problems with bayes locking and journaling. When it
finally corrupted the database, I decided it was time to put it into a
real SQL database instead of using DB_File. Haven't had a single problem
with bayes CPU or locking since.

Maybe it's time you consider using MySQL?

Bret
 



I have now simply put an end to the misery by wiping the DB :)
And the issue is of course solved. I'll be looking into MySQL in the 
very near future, I think.


Thanks to everyone who has answered!

Best Regards,
Andreas



Re: Earthlink emails

2006-09-29 Thread hamann . w
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 X-ENVELOPE-TO: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 On Thu, 2006-09-28 at 11:05 -0700, Loren Wilton wrote:
   Apparently they have removed SPF records after publishing them once.
   Thats a stupid idea IMHO. Today I am forced to TEMP FAIL earthlink ids
   whenever there is a spam attack on my servers
  
  SPF can be a pain for a number of reasons that have been discussed 
  endlessly.  I suspect Dirtlink found them to be effectively useless.
  
  Why not try using domainkeys instead?
  
  DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws;
s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net;
b=FB4IOaniCvpDwkx5cYm2jFWe8LB9zRfxL9FHzbhv1JHyGSVrA0o4mttb3jjbU4C3;

  h=Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:To:Subject:Cc:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP;
  
  Loren
 
 Darn,
 I dont want to again get into SPF debates. 
 
 Assume I am using domain keys and catching all spams forged from
 earthlink , still I am scanning the mails. 
 
 Anyway that is already happening today. SA is catching spams from
 earthlink( forged ?) but when you scan a huge number of mails you would
 like to be able to reject forged mails straight after mail from:. 
 That is what SPF lets you do and that works. 

No wonder a lot of spammers have stopped forging hotmail or msn
 because most of those mails dont even get thru the MTA. And a majority
 of the forged spams I still get is from earthlink or yahoo.
 
 Thanks
 Ram
 
 
 
Hi,

well - you could set up your MTA to verify domainkeys and reject. However, 
there are a lot of mails
around that could cause rejection altnhough they are valid  mail resent by 
something (e.g.
a mailing list) but keeping the domain keys / not adding a sender header

Wolfgang Hamann





Fw: failure notice / spaassassin.apache.org

2006-09-29 Thread Tom Myers

To whom it may concern.

I need your help.   I run a legitimate business ( 27 years )  of Search and 
Placement in the electronic industry.  As you can see for the text below I 
am unable to contact people about the jobs that they want to interview for.


How do I get unlisted from the Spamassassin black list?   Every letter I 
send out is an individual letter not a spam or junk mail.   I view resumes 
on Hot Jobs.  I pay for this service. People post their resumes so that a 
recruiter like myself will contact them with the hope of finding work.  By 
being blocked from contacting that person causes Spamassassin to harm both 
of us.  In addition, several clients have not been able to receive emails 
from me.  These clients are fortune 500 manufactures that have written 
agreements with our firm to arrange legitimate interviews for valid jobs.


Can you help me get delisted ?

Sincerely.

Tom Myers - President - 310-317-6113
www.electroniccareers.com
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

- Original Message - 
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, September 29, 2006 9:38 AM
Subject: failure notice



Hi. This is the qmail-send program at host241.ipowerweb.com.
I'm afraid I wasn't able to deliver your message to the following 
addresses.

This is a permanent error; I've given up. Sorry it didn't work out.

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Connected to 206.18.177.26 but sender was rejected.
Remote host said: 550 66.235.211.53 blocked by 
ldap:ou=rblmx,dc=comcast,dc=net - BL004 Blocked for spam.  Please see 
http://www.comcast.net/help/faq/index.jsp?faq=SecurityMail_Policy18628


--- Below this line is a copy of the message.

Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Received: (qmail 8935 invoked by uid 10025); 29 Sep 2006 16:38:40 -
Received: from 66.215.109.14 by host241.ipowerweb.com (envelope-from 
[EMAIL PROTECTED], uid 1002) with qmail-scanner-1.25st

(clamdscan: 0.88/1245. spamassassin: 3.1.0. perlscan: 1.25st.
Clear:RC:1(66.215.109.14):.
Processed in 0.036045 secs); 29 Sep 2006 16:38:40 -
Received: from unknown (HELO TOM1) (66.215.109.14)
 by host241.ipowerweb.com with SMTP; 29 Sep 2006 16:38:40 -
Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: Tom Myers [EMAIL PROTECTED]
From: Tom Myers [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Raul resume request
Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2006 09:40:01 -0700
Organization: Electronic Careers
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: multipart/alternative;
boundary==_NextPart_000_02E6_01C6E3AB.3C42EE90
X-Priority: 3
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2869
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2962

This is a multi-part message in MIME format.

--=_NextPart_000_02E6_01C6E3AB.3C42EE90
Content-Type: text/plain;
charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Raul,

I have a job as a Design Engineer in Illinois. =20

If you are still available please forward a resume to =
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

I'll then contact you to discuss the job match.

Tom Myers
www.electroniccareers.com
1-310-317-6113
--=_NextPart_000_02E6_01C6E3AB.3C42EE90
Content-Type: text/html;
charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

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charset=3Dwindows-1252
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STYLE/STYLE
/HEAD
BODY bgColor=3D#ff
DIVFONT size=3D2Raul,/FONT/DIV
DIVFONT size=3D2/FONTnbsp;/DIV
DIVFONT size=3D2I have a job as a Design Engineer in Illinois.nbsp; =

/FONT/DIV
DIVFONT size=3D2/FONTnbsp;/DIV
DIVFONT size=3D2If you are still available please forward a resume =
to A=20
href=3Dmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED]/=
A/FONT/DIV
DIVFONT size=3D2/FONTnbsp;/DIV
DIVFONT size=3D2I'll then contact you to discuss the job =
match./FONT/DIV
DIVnbsp;/DIV
DIVFONT size=3D2Tom MyersBRA=20
href=3Dhttp://www.electroniccareers.com;www.electroniccareers.com/AB=
R1-310-317-6113/FONT/DIV/BODY/HTML

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Re: Fw: failure notice / spaassassin.apache.org

2006-09-29 Thread Ken A
It looks like you are listed in spamcop and apparently Comcast is either 
using spamcop or they have their own list that is blocking you. You 
really need to contact comcast about this, not the spamassassin list. 
This list has nothing to do with your problem.

See:
http://spamcop.net/w3m?action=checkblockip=66.235.211.53
and
http://www.comcast.net/help/faq/index.jsp?faq=SecurityMail_Policy18628
Anyone sending large amounts of mail on the Internet these days really 
needs to understand these issues (that means you).

Good luck!

Ken


Tom Myers wrote:

To whom it may concern.

I need your help.   I run a legitimate business ( 27 years )  of Search 
and Placement in the electronic industry.  As you can see for the text 
below I am unable to contact people about the jobs that they want to 
interview for.


How do I get unlisted from the Spamassassin black list?   Every letter 
I send out is an individual letter not a spam or junk mail.   I view 
resumes on Hot Jobs.  I pay for this service. People post their resumes 
so that a recruiter like myself will contact them with the hope of 
finding work.  By being blocked from contacting that person causes 
Spamassassin to harm both of us.  In addition, several clients have not 
been able to receive emails from me.  These clients are fortune 500 
manufactures that have written agreements with our firm to arrange 
legitimate interviews for valid jobs.


Can you help me get delisted ?

Sincerely.

Tom Myers - President - 310-317-6113
www.electroniccareers.com
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

- Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, September 29, 2006 9:38 AM
Subject: failure notice



Hi. This is the qmail-send program at host241.ipowerweb.com.
I'm afraid I wasn't able to deliver your message to the following 
addresses.

This is a permanent error; I've given up. Sorry it didn't work out.

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Connected to 206.18.177.26 but sender was rejected.
Remote host said: 550 66.235.211.53 blocked by 
ldap:ou=rblmx,dc=comcast,dc=net - BL004 Blocked for spam.  Please see 
http://www.comcast.net/help/faq/index.jsp?faq=SecurityMail_Policy18628


--- Below this line is a copy of the message.

Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Received: (qmail 8935 invoked by uid 10025); 29 Sep 2006 16:38:40 -
Received: from 66.215.109.14 by host241.ipowerweb.com (envelope-from 
[EMAIL PROTECTED], uid 1002) with qmail-scanner-1.25st

(clamdscan: 0.88/1245. spamassassin: 3.1.0. perlscan: 1.25st.
Clear:RC:1(66.215.109.14):.
Processed in 0.036045 secs); 29 Sep 2006 16:38:40 -
Received: from unknown (HELO TOM1) (66.215.109.14)
 by host241.ipowerweb.com with SMTP; 29 Sep 2006 16:38:40 -
Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: Tom Myers [EMAIL PROTECTED]
From: Tom Myers [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Raul resume request
Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2006 09:40:01 -0700
Organization: Electronic Careers
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: multipart/alternative;
boundary==_NextPart_000_02E6_01C6E3AB.3C42EE90
X-Priority: 3
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2869
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2962

This is a multi-part message in MIME format.

--=_NextPart_000_02E6_01C6E3AB.3C42EE90
Content-Type: text/plain;
charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Raul,

I have a job as a Design Engineer in Illinois. =20

If you are still available please forward a resume to =
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

I'll then contact you to discuss the job match.

Tom Myers
www.electroniccareers.com
1-310-317-6113
--=_NextPart_000_02E6_01C6E3AB.3C42EE90
Content-Type: text/html;
charset=Windows-1252
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

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HTMLHEAD
META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3Dtext/html; =
charset=3Dwindows-1252
META content=3DMSHTML 6.00.2900.2963 name=3DGENERATOR
STYLE/STYLE
/HEAD
BODY bgColor=3D#ff
DIVFONT size=3D2Raul,/FONT/DIV
DIVFONT size=3D2/FONTnbsp;/DIV
DIVFONT size=3D2I have a job as a Design Engineer in 
Illinois.nbsp; =


/FONT/DIV
DIVFONT size=3D2/FONTnbsp;/DIV
DIVFONT size=3D2If you are still available please forward a resume =
to A=20
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A/FONT/DIV
DIVFONT size=3D2/FONTnbsp;/DIV
DIVFONT size=3D2I'll then contact you to discuss the job =
match./FONT/DIV
DIVnbsp;/DIV
DIVFONT size=3D2Tom MyersBRA=20
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R1-310-317-6113/FONT/DIV/BODY/HTML

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Re: Fw: failure notice / spaassassin.apache.org

2006-09-29 Thread Justin Mason

hi there --

I don't think SpamAssassin has anything to do with this --
the message you forwarded contained this error:

  Connected to 206.18.177.26 but sender was rejected.
  Remote host said: 550 66.235.211.53 blocked by 
  ldap:ou=rblmx,dc=comcast,dc=net - BL004 Blocked for spam.  Please see 
  http://www.comcast.net/help/faq/index.jsp?faq=SecurityMail_Policy18628


as far as I can see, there was no mention of SpamAssassin. in other words,
it's Comcast you need to talk to; that URL looks helpful.

--j.

Tom Myers writes:
To whom it may concern.

I need your help.   I run a legitimate business ( 27 years )  of Search and 
Placement in the electronic industry.  As you can see for the text below I 
am unable to contact people about the jobs that they want to interview for.

How do I get unlisted from the Spamassassin black list?   Every letter I 
send out is an individual letter not a spam or junk mail.   I view resumes 
on Hot Jobs.  I pay for this service. People post their resumes so that a 
recruiter like myself will contact them with the hope of finding work.  By 
being blocked from contacting that person causes Spamassassin to harm both 
of us.  In addition, several clients have not been able to receive emails 
from me.  These clients are fortune 500 manufactures that have written 
agreements with our firm to arrange legitimate interviews for valid jobs.

Can you help me get delisted ?

Sincerely.

Tom Myers - President - 310-317-6113
www.electroniccareers.com
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

- Original Message - 
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, September 29, 2006 9:38 AM
Subject: failure notice


 Hi. This is the qmail-send program at host241.ipowerweb.com.
 I'm afraid I wasn't able to deliver your message to the following 
 addresses.
 This is a permanent error; I've given up. Sorry it didn't work out.

 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Connected to 206.18.177.26 but sender was rejected.
 Remote host said: 550 66.235.211.53 blocked by 
 ldap:ou=rblmx,dc=comcast,dc=net - BL004 Blocked for spam.  Please see 
 http://www.comcast.net/help/faq/index.jsp?faq=SecurityMail_Policy18628

 --- Below this line is a copy of the message.

 Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Received: (qmail 8935 invoked by uid 10025); 29 Sep 2006 16:38:40 -
 Received: from 66.215.109.14 by host241.ipowerweb.com (envelope-from 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED], uid 1002) with qmail-scanner-1.25st
 (clamdscan: 0.88/1245. spamassassin: 3.1.0. perlscan: 1.25st.
 Clear:RC:1(66.215.109.14):.
 Processed in 0.036045 secs); 29 Sep 2006 16:38:40 -
 Received: from unknown (HELO TOM1) (66.215.109.14)
  by host241.ipowerweb.com with SMTP; 29 Sep 2006 16:38:40 -
 Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Reply-To: Tom Myers [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 From: Tom Myers [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Raul resume request
 Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2006 09:40:01 -0700
 Organization: Electronic Careers
 MIME-Version: 1.0
 Content-Type: multipart/alternative;
 boundary==_NextPart_000_02E6_01C6E3AB.3C42EE90
 X-Priority: 3
 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2869
 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2962

 This is a multi-part message in MIME format.

 --=_NextPart_000_02E6_01C6E3AB.3C42EE90
 Content-Type: text/plain;
 charset=Windows-1252
 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

 Raul,

 I have a job as a Design Engineer in Illinois. =20

 If you are still available please forward a resume to =
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 I'll then contact you to discuss the job match.

 Tom Myers
 www.electroniccareers.com
 1-310-317-6113
 --=_NextPart_000_02E6_01C6E3AB.3C42EE90
 Content-Type: text/html;
 charset=Windows-1252
 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

 !DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC -//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN
 HTMLHEAD
 META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3Dtext/html; =
 charset=3Dwindows-1252
 META content=3DMSHTML 6.00.2900.2963 name=3DGENERATOR
 STYLE/STYLE
 /HEAD
 BODY bgColor=3D#ff
 DIVFONT size=3D2Raul,/FONT/DIV
 DIVFONT size=3D2/FONTnbsp;/DIV
 DIVFONT size=3D2I have a job as a Design Engineer in Illinois.nbsp; =

 /FONT/DIV
 DIVFONT size=3D2/FONTnbsp;/DIV
 DIVFONT size=3D2If you are still available please forward a resume =
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 A/FONT/DIV
 DIVFONT size=3D2/FONTnbsp;/DIV
 DIVFONT size=3D2I'll then contact you to discuss the job =
 match./FONT/DIV
 DIVnbsp;/DIV
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Re: failure notice / spaassassin.apache.org

2006-09-29 Thread Gino Cerullo

On 29-Sep-06, at 1:06 PM, Tom Myers wrote:


To whom it may concern.

I need your help.   I run a legitimate business ( 27 years )  of  
Search and Placement in the electronic industry.  As you can see  
for the text below I am unable to contact people about the jobs  
that they want to interview for.


How do I get unlisted from the Spamassassin black list?   Every  
letter I send out is an individual letter not a spam or junk  
mail.   I view resumes on Hot Jobs.  I pay for this service. People  
post their resumes so that a recruiter like myself will contact  
them with the hope of finding work.  By being blocked from  
contacting that person causes Spamassassin to harm both of us.  In  
addition, several clients have not been able to receive emails from  
me.  These clients are fortune 500 manufactures that have written  
agreements with our firm to arrange legitimate interviews for valid  
jobs.


Can you help me get delisted ?


SpamAssassin is not a blacklist, you do not get delisted from it  
since it is not listing you as a spammer.


Comcast, is the ISP that is responsible for the mail servers of the  
person you are trying to reach. They have determined that the email  
you are sending is spam for whatever reason and have given you an  
address with possible explanations as to why.


http://www.comcast.net/help/faq/index.jsp?faq=SecurityMail_Policy18628

That page also has a contact address where you can contact someone  
about the problems you are having.


[EMAIL PROTECTED]

They are the ones you should be taking this up with. We can't help you.


--
Gino Cerullo

Pixel Point Studios
21 Chesham Drive
Toronto, ON  M3M 1W6

416-247-7740





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Re: Q. about spam directed towards highest MX Record?

2006-09-29 Thread Jon Trulson

On Wed, 27 Sep 2006, Rob McEwen wrote:


(CCing Marc Perkel because I seem to recall him knowing about this)

Not that I'd ever outright block based on this one factor alone, but...

Does anyone have any stats about what percentage of spam is directed towards
the highest MX Record? (that is, where there is more than one MX record?)

Also, has anyone ever seen ANY legit mail go to the highest MX record when
no mail server failure occurred?



Hehe, that is an old spammer trick... Our secondary MX is
pretty much 100% spam.

I implemented greylisting on the secondary which reduced spam
through it by about 99% :)  The secondary does not do spam
scanning, it's simply store and forward.  Greylisting really
helps in these cases.


--
Jon Trulson
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://radscan.com/~jon
#include std/disclaimer.h
No Kill I -Horta



Re: Q. about spam directed towards highest MX Record?

2006-09-29 Thread Rob McEwen (PowerView Systems)
Jon Trulson said:
Hehe, that is an old spammer trick... Our secondary MX is
pretty much 100% spam.
I implemented greylisting on the secondary which reduced spam
through it by about 99% :)  The secondary does not do spam
scanning, it's simply store and forward.  Greylisting really
helps in these cases.

Jon, please tell me, what portion of your overall spams attempt to comes in 
through this secondary MX compared to all spam that you catch which are headed 
to your primary MX record.

THAT is what I most wanted to know.

Thanks!

Rob McEwen
PowerView Systems



[OT] Re: Fw: failure notice / spaassassin.apache.org

2006-09-29 Thread Andreas Pettersson

Ken A wrote:

It looks like you are listed in spamcop and apparently Comcast is 
either using spamcop or they have their own list that is blocking you.



Comcast themselves are using a spam filter?
(Let me taste that line one more time...)
Comcast themselves are using a spam filter?
Then why aren't they using one to block their own customers from 
spamming the rest of the world?


/Andreas



Email to SMS Gateways and Spam

2006-09-29 Thread robert
Recently I've discovered that if I attempt to forge the From: header in an
email
message that it ends up being considerably delayed when sent thru my providers
Email to SMS Gateway. I strongly suspect they have in place measures to
identify SPAM that will cause the message to receive a much lower priority.
Unfortunately because it's a FIFO queue all messages sent thereafter to my
device (be they from another device or whatever) are also delayed.

Anybody seen this before?

Right now I'm using a From: that is a legimate address and I'm sure is in many
databases but before I was using a non existent user at my domain because I
want to convey some context about the alert without using the body for the
message. Thus allowing me to easily distinguish b/w different types of messages
by looking at the sender of the message.


This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program.



Re: [OT] Re: Fw: failure notice / spaassassin.apache.org

2006-09-29 Thread Theo Van Dinter
On Fri, Sep 29, 2006 at 07:59:13PM +0200, Andreas Pettersson wrote:
 Then why aren't they using one to block their own customers from 
 spamming the rest of the world?

While you can sell we block spam from your inbox to people as a reason to
pay you money, you can't sell we stop you from sending spam.

-- 
Randomly Selected Tagline:
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Re: Email to SMS Gateways and Spam

2006-09-29 Thread Daryl C. W. O'Shea

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Recently I've discovered that if I attempt to forge the From: header in an
email
message that it ends up being considerably delayed when sent thru my providers
Email to SMS Gateway. I strongly suspect they have in place measures to
identify SPAM that will cause the message to receive a much lower priority.
Unfortunately because it's a FIFO queue all messages sent thereafter to my
device (be they from another device or whatever) are also delayed.

Anybody seen this before?


I'm curios, what provider?

I've currently got a ticket open with Bell Mobility Data Support about 
text messages taking three days to arrive, if ever, except for the odd 
one sent from another Bell phone that arrives immediately.


I wonder if I'm seeing that same thing.


Daryl


Re: [OT] Re: Fw: failure notice / spaassassin.apache.org

2006-09-29 Thread Ken A




Andreas Pettersson wrote:

Ken A wrote:

It looks like you are listed in spamcop and apparently Comcast is 
either using spamcop or they have their own list that is blocking you.



Comcast themselves are using a spam filter?
(Let me taste that line one more time...)
Comcast themselves are using a spam filter?


yes, looks like they are using brightmail

Then why aren't they using one to block their own customers from 
spamming the rest of the world?


uh, a guess? it costs too much. :-\
Ken



/Andreas



Re: Fw: failure notice / spaassassin.apache.org

2006-09-29 Thread Mark Samples
Comcast has their own blacklist, I do not know how they arrive at what 
is spam and what is
not, in my experience, it is questionable.   Your hosting company is the 
one that is blacklisted.
This can be effecting many or just effecting you, it depends on whether 
they assign individual
ip number to each web host or do naming.  In the event of naming, it can 
effect everyone
they host for.  Your hosting company (the one that is actually 
responsible for the net block
you are assigned will have to resolve this with comcast), alternatively 
you can probably request

it's removal at the following url, there should be instructions at the URL.

http://www.comcast.net/help/faq/index.jsp?faq=SecurityMail_Policy18626

use this IP '66.235.211.53 ' which is what your host gives your website.

If you do a search on 'blacklist' and comcast, you will get pages full 
of their blacklisting anomalies.
Also, just as a preventative, I do not know if you use any mass mailers 
advertising, but if you
do, this can cause blacklisting.  If you do the best way to avoid 
blacklisting if you do this is to use
as server side mailing list with subscribe/unsubscribe options.  The 
spam situation from an ISP
standpoint is getting ever worse to keep its subscriber's email 
flowing.  AOL is similar, they
decide which mail is spam by the number of times it's customer's put the 
same sources of
email in their spam folder, if it appears at about a rate of 5%, it's 
blacklist time.
What does this mean, it means whoever you are sending email to, even 
though in your eyes,
it may be legitimate, if they decide they don't want to receive it, they 
can hit the AOL spam button

and they have officially dubbed your email spam and the counter starts.
This is where the serverside email lists help but do not eliminate this, 
depends if the receiver
is will to click on the url for your unsubscribe message.  Another 
(though less liked by most),
is to only send email that is text, i.e. no images, no html.  This will 
maximize the probably

that your mail won't be interpeted as spam.

Hope this helps.

Tom Myers wrote:


To whom it may concern.

I need your help.   I run a legitimate business ( 27 years )  of 
Search and Placement in the electronic industry.  As you can see for 
the text below I am unable to contact people about the jobs that they 
want to interview for.


How do I get unlisted from the Spamassassin black list?   Every 
letter I send out is an individual letter not a spam or junk mail.   I 
view resumes on Hot Jobs.  I pay for this service. People post their 
resumes so that a recruiter like myself will contact them with the 
hope of finding work.  By being blocked from contacting that person 
causes Spamassassin to harm both of us.  In addition, several clients 
have not been able to receive emails from me.  These clients are 
fortune 500 manufactures that have written agreements with our firm to 
arrange legitimate interviews for valid jobs.


Can you help me get delisted ?

Sincerely.

Tom Myers - President - 310-317-6113
www.electroniccareers.com
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Hi. This is the qmail-send program at host241.ipowerweb.com.
I'm afraid I wasn't able to deliver your message to the following 
addresses.

This is a permanent error; I've given up. Sorry it didn't work out.

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Connected to 206.18.177.26 but sender was rejected.
Remote host said: 550 66.235.211.53 blocked by 
ldap:ou=rblmx,dc=comcast,dc=net - BL004 Blocked for spam.  Please 
see 
http://www.comcast.net/help/faq/index.jsp?faq=SecurityMail_Policy18628


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Raul,

I have a job as a Design Engineer in Illinois. =20

If you are still available 

Re: Migrate dependencies problem

2006-09-29 Thread Kelson

Philippe Couas wrote:
4 rpm -Uvh spamassassin-3.1.5-1.rh9.rf.i386.rpm 

...
Where could i found theses perls optional packages, and how install 
them ?


I see you're using the RPMForge packages (or possibly a subset like 
FreshRPMs or DAG).  If an RPMForge package has dependencies, you will 
find those dependencies either in the base Red Hat 9 system, or in 
RPMForge itself.


Your best bet is to install yum and the rpmforge-release package, then 
use yum to install spamassassin.  It will automatically pick up the 
dependencies.


(Incidentally, you might want to consider moving to something a bit 
more...well, supported than Red Hat 9.  Even Fedora Legacy is dropping 
it at the end of the year.  Centos 3 www.centos.org is a good bet, 
since it's based on RHEL 3, which is based on RH9, and will continue to 
get security updates through 2010.)


--
Kelson Vibber
SpeedGate Communications www.speed.net


Re: [OT] Re: Fw: failure notice / spaassassin.apache.org

2006-09-29 Thread Daryl C. W. O'Shea

Theo Van Dinter wrote:

On Fri, Sep 29, 2006 at 07:59:13PM +0200, Andreas Pettersson wrote:
Then why aren't they using one to block their own customers from 
spamming the rest of the world?


While you can sell we block spam from your inbox to people as a reason to
pay you money, you can't sell we stop you from sending spam.


http://www.comcast.net/help/faq/index.jsp?faq=SecurityMail_Policy18625

Unless you want to send spam to our own customers, then we'll block 
that, unless you pay us more for commercial service.  :)



Too bad outgress filtering isn't as cheap as running a blacklist with 
your own IPs in it.


gocr v.41 and segfault patch

2006-09-29 Thread Russ Ringer
Has gocr .41 fixed the segfault problem patched in .40 by
http://antispam.imp.ch/patches/patch-gocr-segfault ?

If not is there an updated patch for .41?

thanks,
Russ



RE: Ammount of the RAM used by spamd childs

2006-09-29 Thread Bowie Bailey
Balzi Andrea wrote:
  -Original Message-
 [...]
   every child it occupies approximately 450MB of RAM.
   
   My server is a GNU/Linux Debian 3.1r2 with spamassassin v3.1.5 and
   Perl v5.8.4 Aren't it too many every 450MB for single child?
  
  That is a bit excessive.  My first guess is that you have WAY
  too many add-on rule sets (or you are using old ones that should
  not be used). 
  
  Which rule sets are you currently using?
  
 
 I'm usign the default rules of spamassassin 3.1.5 with the follow
 rules downloaded from rulesemporium:
 
 ANTIDRUG

Antidrug is not needed with current versions of SA.

 BLACKLIST_URI

You should use the ws.surbl.org version of this blacklist instead.

See here for more info:
http://wiki.apache.org/spamassassin/SURBL

 BLACKLIST

This is a 16M rulefile and probably a major contributor to your memory
load.

 SARE_SPAMCOP_TOP200

The current versions of SA already use this list as a network test.
If you have network tests enabled, you don't need this.

Other than that, all I can say is that you have quite a few rules.
You may want to try removing some of them and restarting spamd.  Just
do some trial and error and see which ones make the most difference.

-- 
Bowie


Re: Q. about spam directed towards highest MX Record?

2006-09-29 Thread Stuart Johnston

Rob McEwen (PowerView Systems) wrote:

Jon Trulson said:

Hehe, that is an old spammer trick... Our secondary MX is
pretty much 100% spam.
I implemented greylisting on the secondary which reduced spam
through it by about 99% :)  The secondary does not do spam
scanning, it's simply store and forward.  Greylisting really
helps in these cases.


Jon, please tell me, what portion of your overall spams attempt to comes in 
through this secondary MX compared to all spam that you catch which are headed 
to your primary MX record.


Here are some rough numbers from my systems:

Yesterday on the secondary MX:

Connections: 24601
Blocked for RBL: 22841


Roughly similar time period on primary MX:

Connections:176668
Blocked for RBL: 79994
Delivered:   17168


Re: Email to SMS Gateways and Spam

2006-09-29 Thread robert
I'm using Former ATT Wireless / Cingular Blue. email goes to @mmode.com
gateway. I'm guessing but so far I'm seeing reliable messaging since I stopped
forging From:

Quoting Daryl C. W. O'Shea [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Recently I've discovered that if I attempt to forge the From: header in an
  email
  message that it ends up being considerably delayed when sent thru my
 providers
  Email to SMS Gateway. I strongly suspect they have in place measures to
  identify SPAM that will cause the message to receive a much lower
 priority.
  Unfortunately because it's a FIFO queue all messages sent thereafter to my
  device (be they from another device or whatever) are also delayed.
  
  Anybody seen this before?
 
 I'm curios, what provider?
 
 I've currently got a ticket open with Bell Mobility Data Support about 
 text messages taking three days to arrive, if ever, except for the odd 
 one sent from another Bell phone that arrives immediately.
 
 I wonder if I'm seeing that same thing.
 
 
 Daryl
 





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Re: Ammount of the RAM used by spamd childs

2006-09-29 Thread Jeff Chan
On Friday, September 29, 2006, 12:32:08 PM, Bowie Bailey wrote:
 Balzi Andrea wrote:

 BLACKLIST_URI

 You should use the ws.surbl.org version of this blacklist instead.

 See here for more info:
 http://wiki.apache.org/spamassassin/SURBL

Though ws.surbl.org is the direct descendant of BLACKLIST_URI, be
sure to use multi.surbl.org instead of ws if you use multiple
(other) SURBL lists.  Basically, use the defaults in SA 3.

Actually since you are using SA 3, then you don't need
BLACKLIST_URI at all, and you don't need to manually configure
SURBL lists.  Just make sure network tests are enabled and
Net::DNS is current on the system, and SURBLs will be used since
they're already in the default configurations.

Jeff C.
-- 
Jeff Chan
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.surbl.org/



Re: Non-blocklisted embedded URLs are getting hits on URIBL_AB_SURBL and URIBL_PH_SURBL in SpamAssassin 3.1.5

2006-09-29 Thread Chris
On Thursday 28 September 2006 1:17 am, Donald Craig wrote:
 And Theo Van Dinter pointed out:
 You're not by chance using the opendns.{com,org} folks for DNS, are you?

 Of course.  I'm an idiot.  I switched to OpenDNS a couple of weeks back.
 Time to return from whence I came.  Thank you,
 Don Craig
 
 I'm getting matches whenever I have an embedded URL
 on URIBL_AB_SURBL and URIBL_PH_SURBL -
 unless the URL is actually in URIBL_SBL, in which case the
 logic for all the flavors of URIBL_XX_SURBL seems
 to work correctly.  I have verified the
 absence of the incorrectly matching URLs from SURBL
 with lookups in http://www.rulesemporium.com/cgi-bin/uribl.cgi

 This is SpamAssassin 3.1.5, all was fine in 3.1.2.

 For now I have set both those tests to 0.00.

 Don Craig
Yes, OpenDNS definitely caused problems for me also:

Sep  1 21:51:25 localhost spamd[10939]: uridnsbl: bogus rr for 
domain=otwaloow.com, rule=URIBL_XS_SURBL, id=8880 
rr=otwaloow.com.xs.surbl.org. 1 IN A 208.67.219.40 
at /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.5/Mail/SpamAssassin/Plugin/URIDNSBL.pm line 
626. 

Theo pointed out the errors of my ways:

 The error is saying that it's looking for a 127/8 result, but it gets
 208.67.219.40 (which resolves to a *.opendns.com name btw).  So I would
 say that yes, the problems are related to changing your nameservers.


-- 
Chris


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Re: Non-blocklisted embedded URLs are getting hits on URIBL_AB_SURBL and URIBL_PH_SURBL in SpamAssassin 3.1.5

2006-09-29 Thread David Ulevitch

From: Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: users@spamassassin.apache.org
Date: Friday, September 29, 2006, 3:59:03 PM
Subject: Non-blocklisted embedded URLs are getting hits on  
URIBL_AB_SURBL and URIBL_PH_SURBL in SpamAssassin 3.1.5


===8==Original message text===
On Thursday 28 September 2006 1:17 am, Donald Craig wrote:

And Theo Van Dinter pointed out:
You're not by chance using the opendns.{com,org} folks for DNS,  
are you?


Of course.  I'm an idiot.  I switched to OpenDNS a couple of weeks  
back.

Time to return from whence I came.  Thank you,


Donald,

We handle DNSBLs but not URIBLs, at the moment.  Passing along to  
Noah to see what he can do.  Sorry you had this happen to your  
SpamAssassin scoring. (Time to check mine... :-) )


You can resolve this behavior by turning off typo correction in your  
preferences page and it'll work again with us returning NXDOMAIN  
(RCODE=3) instead of doing the typo correction service.  Hopefully we  
can get more granular with that in the future.


If you are on a dynamic IP, well, just sit tight for a couple more  
weeks or email me to start beta testing some code this week to handle  
dynamic IPs (and that offer is for anyone).


Thanks,
David Ulevitch (from OpenDNS)



Don Craig

I'm getting matches whenever I have an embedded URL
on URIBL_AB_SURBL and URIBL_PH_SURBL -
unless the URL is actually in URIBL_SBL, in which case the
logic for all the flavors of URIBL_XX_SURBL seems
to work correctly.  I have verified the
absence of the incorrectly matching URLs from SURBL
with lookups in http://www.rulesemporium.com/cgi-bin/uribl.cgi

This is SpamAssassin 3.1.5, all was fine in 3.1.2.

For now I have set both those tests to 0.00.

Don Craig

Yes, OpenDNS definitely caused problems for me also:

Sep  1 21:51:25 localhost spamd[10939]: uridnsbl: bogus rr for
domain=otwaloow.com, rule=URIBL_XS_SURBL, id=8880
rr=otwaloow.com.xs.surbl.org. 1 IN A 208.67.219.40
at /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.5/Mail/SpamAssassin/Plugin/ 
URIDNSBL.pm line

626.

Theo pointed out the errors of my ways:


The error is saying that it's looking for a 127/8 result, but it gets
208.67.219.40 (which resolves to a *.opendns.com name btw).  So I  
would

say that yes, the problems are related to changing your nameservers.



--
Chris

===8===End of original message text===





Re: Ammount of the RAM used by spamd childs

2006-09-29 Thread Matt Kettler
Balzi Andrea wrote:
 -Original Message-
 
 [...]
   
 every child it occupies approximately 450MB of RAM.

 My server is a GNU/Linux Debian 3.1r2 with spamassassin v3.1.5 and 
 Perl v5.8.4 Aren't it too many every 450MB for single child?
   
 That is a bit excessive.  My first guess is that you have WAY 
 too many add-on rule sets (or you are using old ones that 
 should not be used).

 Which rule sets are you currently using?

 

   
Ditch BLACKLIST and BLACKLIST_URI.. Those are both NOTORIOUS consumers
of ram. at least 100mb per file.

Also ditch Antidrug. It's only for users of SA 2.6x. SA 3.0 and higher
have these rules built-in so loading antidrug is redundant at best, and
possibly a downgrade.