Re: New Spam Mails plz suggest

2009-06-08 Thread Anshul Chauhan
can i do this in sendmail SMTP auth session without RBL  rest with RBL.

can you plz give me some hint for both the solutions of SMTP auth without
RBL  not scanning mails with spamassassin with SMTP auth
**

Warm Regards,
Anshul Chauhan
Dream is not what you see while sleep, it's the thing that does not let you
sleep.



On Mon, Jun 8, 2009 at 11:05 AM, ram r...@netcore.co.in wrote:


 On Mon, 2009-06-08 at 10:14 +0530, Anshul Chauhan wrote:
  Below is the link for one of the spam mail in which to  from address
  is same.
  http://pastebin.com/f20358d76
 
  I can't use RBL because most of my users use datacards  their ip
  addresses are listed in RBL in SBL  XBL  SPAMCOP.
 


 You can still use RBL's. Allow users with SMTP auth only without rbl
 checks rest you check rbls and reject if listed.

 I think you use postfix you could do something like this
 smtpd_recipient_restrictions =
 permit_sasl_authenticated,
 reject_rbl_client zen.spamhaus.org,
 .
 ..(other rules )







 And for the smtp-auth mails do not scan for spam at all. Not only will
 you avoid FP's  .. you will also save a lot of processing on your
 server







 Thanks
 Ram


 PS:
 Why are you hiding the spammail in the pastebin. The contents of spam
 mail are usually not very important






Re: New Spam Mails plz suggest

2009-06-08 Thread Benny Pedersen

On Mon, June 8, 2009 08:41, Anshul Chauhan wrote:
 can i do this in sendmail SMTP auth session without RBL  rest with RBL.

http://www.sendmail.org/~ca/email/auth.html


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Re: New Spam Mails plz suggest

2009-06-08 Thread LuKreme

On 7-Jun-2009, at 22:44, Anshul Chauhan wrote:
Below is the link for one of the spam mail in which to  from  
address is

same.
http://pastebin.com/f20358d76

I can't use RBL because most of my users use datacards  their ip  
addresses

are listed in RBL in SBL  XBL  SPAMCOP.


And why does this mean you can't use RBLs?

Use RBLs in your SMTP transaction phase to reject unauthorized/ 
unauthenticated senders.


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Re: ZMI-GERMAN: question to the users

2009-06-08 Thread Michael Monnerie
On Mittwoch 03 Juni 2009 Michael Monnerie wrote:
 But maybe, if response and urge is high, I will include them. What do
 you think? Is it spam for you?

OK, there where only +1 to include that, without any single objection.
Updates will follow. Thanks for your opinions and votes.

mfg zmi
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Training SA

2009-06-08 Thread snowweb

Hi, I'm new to SA. I run an Exim/Dovecot CentOS 5.0 mailserver (VPS), on
which I have recently installed SA.

I have configured 'Autolearn = yes' but I have no way to know whether this
is working. Please can someone explain to me how this works, since my
understanding of this is as follows, and makes no sense!

SpamAssassin identifies a mail as spam and stores the details of it so that
it is easier to identify future emails which are similar. However, I fail to
understand how this will help, since it's already successfully identifying
those emails?

Furthermore, I can I train SpamAssassin to recognize emails that it is
currently giving only a very low score to, as spam? I'm getting many emails
each day about Acai Berries but SA they are only getting a score of around
3.3! How can I train it to recognize these, server wide?

Thanks.

pete
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Re: New Spam Mails plz suggest

2009-06-08 Thread Karsten Bräckelmann
On Mon, 2009-06-08 at 10:14 +0530, Anshul Chauhan wrote:
 I can't use RBL because most of my users use datacards  their ip
 addresses are listed in RBL in SBL  XBL  SPAMCOP.

As has been suggested by various others, just do not scan outgoing mail
from authenticated users.

 These are the RBL settings which i'v used earlier but bcoz of these my
 geninue mails send from datacards are also spammed, can i use this but
 my datacard users mail not marked as SPAM
 score RCVD_IN_PBL 3
 score RCVD_IN_XBL 5
 score RDNS_NONE 5
 score RCVD_IN_SORBS_DUL 3
 score SPF_FAIL 10
 score SPF_SOFTFAIL 5
 score SPF_NEUTRAL 2
 score RDNS_DYNAMIC 3

These are all *severely* and arbitrarily raised by you.

So you adjust scores in-appropriately, and get false positives due to
that. And your conclusion is, you can't use RBLs at all? Yeah, right...
Your scores, your problem.

Instead, try the defaults and enable RBL checks again.


Hint:  From and To being the same is valid, seen in real legit mail and
not the solution to your problem.


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main(){ char h,m=h=*t++,*x=t+2*h,c,i,l=*x,s=0; for (i=0;il;i++){ i%8? c=1:
(c=*++x); c128  (s+=h); if (!(h=1)||!t[s+h]){ putchar(t[s]);h=m;s=0; }}}



Re: New Spam Mails plz suggest

2009-06-08 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
 On Mon, 2009-06-08 at 10:14 +0530, Anshul Chauhan wrote:
  I can't use RBL because most of my users use datacards  their ip
  addresses are listed in RBL in SBL  XBL  SPAMCOP.

On 08.06.09 11:56, Karsten Bräckelmann wrote:
 As has been suggested by various others, just do not scan outgoing mail
 from authenticated users.

Actually, such mail _should_ be scanned, for cases when they start spreading
spam.

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Re: New Spam Mails plz suggest

2009-06-08 Thread Benny Pedersen

On Mon, June 8, 2009 11:56, Karsten Bräckelmann wrote:
 On Mon, 2009-06-08 at 10:14 +0530, Anshul Chauhan wrote:
 I can't use RBL because most of my users use datacards  their ip
 addresses are listed in RBL in SBL  XBL  SPAMCOP.
 As has been suggested by various others, just do not scan outgoing mail
 from authenticated users.

at the risk one user sends spam from mta ip, this is desired to be blocked
outside as well, and clearly all your users will be even more happy with
this then scan outgoing mails for spam aswell, it also helps learning ham
in bayes

just my 2€

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Re: New Spam Mails plz suggest

2009-06-08 Thread Karsten Bräckelmann
On Mon, 2009-06-08 at 11:59 +0200, Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote:
  On Mon, 2009-06-08 at 10:14 +0530, Anshul Chauhan wrote:
   I can't use RBL because most of my users use datacards  their ip
   addresses are listed in RBL in SBL  XBL  SPAMCOP.
 
 On 08.06.09 11:56, Karsten Bräckelmann wrote:
  As has been suggested by various others, just do not scan outgoing mail
  from authenticated users.
 
 Actually, such mail _should_ be scanned, for cases when they start spreading
 spam.

By authenticated users? So that's no bot spam, and the user spams
deliberately and consciously...

In that case I'd prefer a sucker rod [1] over scanning messages anytime.


Anyway, IMHO -- you can not scan outgoing mail sent by authenticated
users submitted directly from dial-up lines. They are almost guaranteed
to be listed by PBL and DUL style lists.


[1] From the syslogd manpage:
Use step 4 and if the problem persists and is not secondary to a
rogue  program/daemon  get  a 3.5 ft (approx. 1 meter) length of
sucker rod* and have a chat with the user in question.

-- 
char *t=\10pse\0r\0dtu...@ghno\x4e\xc8\x79\xf4\xab\x51\x8a\x10\xf4\xf4\xc4;
main(){ char h,m=h=*t++,*x=t+2*h,c,i,l=*x,s=0; for (i=0;il;i++){ i%8? c=1:
(c=*++x); c128  (s+=h); if (!(h=1)||!t[s+h]){ putchar(t[s]);h=m;s=0; }}}



Re: New Spam Mails plz suggest

2009-06-08 Thread Karsten Bräckelmann
On Mon, 2009-06-08 at 10:14 +0530, Anshul Chauhan wrote:
 I can't use RBL because most of my users use datacards  their ip
 addresses are listed in RBL in SBL  XBL  SPAMCOP.
 ^^^
Just noticed this -- I kind of hope this is just a typo.

SBL listing of your users would be bad indeed. After all, it lists
verified IPs where the spammers actually live on. No dial-up style or
something.


-- 
char *t=\10pse\0r\0dtu...@ghno\x4e\xc8\x79\xf4\xab\x51\x8a\x10\xf4\xf4\xc4;
main(){ char h,m=h=*t++,*x=t+2*h,c,i,l=*x,s=0; for (i=0;il;i++){ i%8? c=1:
(c=*++x); c128  (s+=h); if (!(h=1)||!t[s+h]){ putchar(t[s]);h=m;s=0; }}}



sa-update error

2009-06-08 Thread snowweb

I've just heard about sa-update and tried to run it. I was thinking of
setting up a cron to do it daily, however, I got the following error message
when I ran it manually:

[r...@s1 spamassassin]# sa-update  service spamassassin restart
Can't locate Archive/Tar.pm in @INC (@INC contains:
/usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.8/i386-linux-thread-multi /usr/lib/per
l5/site_perl/5.8.8 /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.7/i386-linux-thread-multi
/usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.6/i386-linux-thr
ead-multi /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.5/i386-linux-thread-multi
/usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.7 /usr/lib/perl5/site_per
l/5.8.6 /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.5 /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl
/usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.8/i386-linux-thread-mult
i /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.7/i386-linux-thread-multi
/usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.6/i386-linux-thread-multi /us
r/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.5/i386-linux-thread-multi
/usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.8 /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.7
 /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.6 /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.5
/usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl /usr/lib/perl5/5.8.8/i386
-linux-thread-multi /usr/lib/perl5/5.8.8) at /usr/bin/sa-update line 81.
BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at /usr/bin/sa-update line 81.

Any ideas please?

pete
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Re: sa-update error

2009-06-08 Thread Karsten Bräckelmann
On Mon, 2009-06-08 at 03:30 -0700, an anonymous Nabble user wrote:
 I've just heard about sa-update and tried to run it. I was thinking of
 setting up a cron to do it daily, however, I got the following error message
 when I ran it manually:
 
 [r...@s1 spamassassin]# sa-update  service spamassassin restart
 Can't locate Archive/Tar.pm in @INC (@INC contains:

 BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at /usr/bin/sa-update line 81.
 
 Any ideas please?

Install the missing Perl module...?


-- 
char *t=\10pse\0r\0dtu...@ghno\x4e\xc8\x79\xf4\xab\x51\x8a\x10\xf4\xf4\xc4;
main(){ char h,m=h=*t++,*x=t+2*h,c,i,l=*x,s=0; for (i=0;il;i++){ i%8? c=1:
(c=*++x); c128  (s+=h); if (!(h=1)||!t[s+h]){ putchar(t[s]);h=m;s=0; }}}



Re: sa-update error

2009-06-08 Thread Nigel Frankcom
On Mon, 8 Jun 2009 03:30:59 -0700 (PDT), snowweb pe...@snowweb.co.uk
wrote:


I've just heard about sa-update and tried to run it. I was thinking of
setting up a cron to do it daily, however, I got the following error message
when I ran it manually:

[r...@s1 spamassassin]# sa-update  service spamassassin restart
Can't locate Archive/Tar.pm in @INC (@INC contains:
/usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.8/i386-linux-thread-multi /usr/lib/per
l5/site_perl/5.8.8 /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.7/i386-linux-thread-multi
/usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.6/i386-linux-thr
ead-multi /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.5/i386-linux-thread-multi
/usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.7 /usr/lib/perl5/site_per
l/5.8.6 /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.5 /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl
/usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.8/i386-linux-thread-mult
i /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.7/i386-linux-thread-multi
/usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.6/i386-linux-thread-multi /us
r/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.5/i386-linux-thread-multi
/usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.8 /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.7
 /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.6 /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.5
/usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl /usr/lib/perl5/5.8.8/i386
-linux-thread-multi /usr/lib/perl5/5.8.8) at /usr/bin/sa-update line 81.
BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at /usr/bin/sa-update line 81.

Any ideas please?

pete

I think the Tar package is available via yum if you want an easy way
to keep it current. If not Install it via CPAN. You may need to
restart SA after, not sure.

It may also be worth running spamassassin --lint -D to see if you
are missing any other packages.

HTH

Nigel


Re: sa-update error

2009-06-08 Thread Benny Pedersen

On Mon, June 8, 2009 12:55, Nigel Frankcom wrote:

 It may also be worth running spamassassin --lint -D to see if you
 are missing any other packages.

you have currently 2 perl versions installed

this is the problem, if not all modules exists in 5.8.8, but some only
does in 5.8.6


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Re: spamd dies - please help - SOLVED

2009-06-08 Thread Karsten Bräckelmann
Back on-list, just FYI.

On Sun, 2009-06-07 at 22:41 -0300, Soporte Técnico elbolson.com wrote:
 Thanks for your answer.
 It is solved now - I removed a plugin that a friend created to call KAV
 antivirus, based on Clamav plugin. It had worked before on i386, it
 doesn't work on x86_64. We will investigate why. Clamav plugin works
 allright.
 
 Greetings
 Claudia Burman
 El Bolson - Patagonia Argentina

Useless full-quote snipped.

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char *t=\10pse\0r\0dtu...@ghno\x4e\xc8\x79\xf4\xab\x51\x8a\x10\xf4\xf4\xc4;
main(){ char h,m=h=*t++,*x=t+2*h,c,i,l=*x,s=0; for (i=0;il;i++){ i%8? c=1:
(c=*++x); c128  (s+=h); if (!(h=1)||!t[s+h]){ putchar(t[s]);h=m;s=0; }}}



Re: New Spam Mails plz suggest

2009-06-08 Thread Anshul Chauhan
Below is mail headers for one more mail
http://pastebin.com/d3da8daa6

I'm new to SA so please suggest/gve some hint for how to use RBL for non
smtp authenticated session  for smtp authicated mails not spam scanning.

Warm Regards,
Anshul Chauhan
Dream is not what you see while sleep, it's the thing that does not let you
sleep.



On Mon, Jun 8, 2009 at 11:05 AM, ram r...@netcore.co.in wrote:


 On Mon, 2009-06-08 at 10:14 +0530, Anshul Chauhan wrote:
  Below is the link for one of the spam mail in which to  from address
  is same.
  http://pastebin.com/f20358d76
 
  I can't use RBL because most of my users use datacards  their ip
  addresses are listed in RBL in SBL  XBL  SPAMCOP.
 


 You can still use RBL's. Allow users with SMTP auth only without rbl
 checks rest you check rbls and reject if listed.

 I think you use postfix you could do something like this
 smtpd_recipient_restrictions =
 permit_sasl_authenticated,
 reject_rbl_client zen.spamhaus.org,
 .
 ..(other rules )







 And for the smtp-auth mails do not scan for spam at all. Not only will
 you avoid FP's  .. you will also save a lot of processing on your
 server







 Thanks
 Ram


 PS:
 Why are you hiding the spammail in the pastebin. The contents of spam
 mail are usually not very important






Re: New Spam Mails plz suggest

2009-06-08 Thread Karsten Bräckelmann
On Mon, 2009-06-08 at 17:05 +0530, Anshul Chauhan wrote:
 I'm new to SA so please suggest/gve some hint for how to use RBL for
 non smtp authenticated session  for smtp authicated mails not spam
 scanning.

Not scanning outbound messages from your users is entirely the duty of
your SMTP and outside the scope of SA. It all depends on your SMTP
server, configuration and how you integrate SA.


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char *t=\10pse\0r\0dtu...@ghno\x4e\xc8\x79\xf4\xab\x51\x8a\x10\xf4\xf4\xc4;
main(){ char h,m=h=*t++,*x=t+2*h,c,i,l=*x,s=0; for (i=0;il;i++){ i%8? c=1:
(c=*++x); c128  (s+=h); if (!(h=1)||!t[s+h]){ putchar(t[s]);h=m;s=0; }}}



Re: New Spam Mails plz suggest

2009-06-08 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
 On Mon, 2009-06-08 at 11:59 +0200, Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote:
   On Mon, 2009-06-08 at 10:14 +0530, Anshul Chauhan wrote:
I can't use RBL because most of my users use datacards  their ip
addresses are listed in RBL in SBL  XBL  SPAMCOP.
  
  On 08.06.09 11:56, Karsten Bräckelmann wrote:
   As has been suggested by various others, just do not scan outgoing mail
   from authenticated users.
  
  Actually, such mail _should_ be scanned, for cases when they start spreading
  spam.

On 08.06.09 12:21, Karsten Bräckelmann wrote:
 By authenticated users? So that's no bot spam, and the user spams
 deliberately and consciously...

says who? Afaik spamware often uses outlook's SMTP engine, so it's quite
common for those to be distributed with authentication info.

Not even talking about customers' mail proxies that accept mail from
intranet w/o authentication (although we recomment users not to do that) and
submit them with authentication to ISP's relays.

Both are especially nice if any other machine on customers' intranet is
owned by a bot or even an open relay.

 Anyway, IMHO -- you can not scan outgoing mail sent by authenticated
 users submitted directly from dial-up lines. They are almost guaranteed
 to be listed by PBL and DUL style lists.

I think that SA skips RBL checks for authenticated clients, which should
avoid this problem.

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Re: sa-update error

2009-06-08 Thread snowweb

Sorry for my ignorance. I'm very new to Linux. Which missing perl module is
that please?

pete


Karsten Bräckelmann-2 wrote:
 
 On Mon, 2009-06-08 at 03:30 -0700, an anonymous Nabble user wrote:
 I've just heard about sa-update and tried to run it. I was thinking of
 setting up a cron to do it daily, however, I got the following error
 message
 when I ran it manually:
 
 [r...@s1 spamassassin]# sa-update  service spamassassin restart
 Can't locate Archive/Tar.pm in @INC (@INC contains:
 
 BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at /usr/bin/sa-update line 81.
 
 Any ideas please?
 
 Install the missing Perl module...?
 
 
 -- 
 char
 *t=\10pse\0r\0dtu...@ghno\x4e\xc8\x79\xf4\xab\x51\x8a\x10\xf4\xf4\xc4;
 main(){ char h,m=h=*t++,*x=t+2*h,c,i,l=*x,s=0; for (i=0;il;i++){ i%8?
 c=1:
 (c=*++x); c128  (s+=h); if (!(h=1)||!t[s+h]){ putchar(t[s]);h=m;s=0;
 }}}
 
 
 

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Re: sa-update error

2009-06-08 Thread snowweb

When I do which perl it only returns,

/usr/bin/perl

doesn't this mean that I only have one installed? (I'm not arguing.. just
trying to understand, since I'm new to Linux).

pete



Benny Pedersen wrote:
 
 
 On Mon, June 8, 2009 12:55, Nigel Frankcom wrote:
 
 It may also be worth running spamassassin --lint -D to see if you
 are missing any other packages.
 
 you have currently 2 perl versions installed
 
 this is the problem, if not all modules exists in 5.8.8, but some only
 does in 5.8.6
 
 
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Re: sa-update error

2009-06-08 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
  On Mon, 2009-06-08 at 03:30 -0700, an anonymous Nabble user wrote:
  I've just heard about sa-update and tried to run it. I was thinking of
  setting up a cron to do it daily, however, I got the following error
  message when I ran it manually:
  
  [r...@s1 spamassassin]# sa-update  service spamassassin restart
  Can't locate Archive/Tar.pm in @INC (@INC contains:
  
  BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at /usr/bin/sa-update line 81.
  
  Any ideas please?

 Karsten Bräckelmann-2 wrote:
  Install the missing Perl module...?

On 08.06.09 05:27, snowweb wrote:
 Sorry for my ignorance. I'm very new to Linux. Which missing perl module is
 that please?

IIRC another answer said you probably have two perl versions installed
separately. Check for that first. Then, check these:

- which software (linux) distribution do you have? 
- do you have spamassassin installed from the distribution?
- do you have perl installed from the distribution?
- don't you have incorrectly set environment variable PERL5LIB set somewhere
in startup/config files?

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tests= SIZE_LIMIT_EXCEEDED ??

2009-06-08 Thread Stefan-Michael Guenther

Hi,

I just had a closer look at the header of an email which should have 
been recognized by spamassassin as spam.


Waht I found was this:

X-SpamScore:   0
tests= SIZE_LIMIT_EXCEEDED

I have checked /usr/share/spamassassin/ for a rule which might contain a 
size limit, but didn't finde any.


A search with Google didn't help either.

So, any suggestions from the list members where I can define the size 
that has been exceeded?


Thanks,

Stefan



Re: sa-update error

2009-06-08 Thread snowweb

I just ran yum upgrade spamassassin and this was the result:

[r...@s1 spamassassin]# yum upgrade spamassassin
Loading installonlyn plugin
Setting up Upgrade Process
Setting up repositories
dag   100% |=| 1.1 kB00:00
openwebmail   100% |=|  951 B00:00
base  100% |=| 1.1 kB00:00
updates   100% |=|  951 B00:00
addons100% |=|  951 B00:00
extras100% |=| 1.1 kB00:00
Reading repository metadata in from local files
primary.xml.gz100% |=| 3.1 MB00:10
## 8680/8680
Excluding Packages in global exclude list
Finished
Could not find update match for spamassassin
No Packages marked for Update/Obsoletion

Then I tried again with sa-update and got the following:

[r...@s1 spamassassin]# sa-update
Can't locate Archive/Tar.pm in @INC (@INC contains:
/usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.8/i386-linux-thread-multi /usr/lib/per
l5/site_perl/5.8.8 /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.7/i386-linux-thread-multi
/usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.6/i386-linux-thr
ead-multi /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.5/i386-linux-thread-multi
/usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.7 /usr/lib/perl5/site_per
l/5.8.6 /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.5 /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl
/usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.8/i386-linux-thread-mult
i /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.7/i386-linux-thread-multi
/usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.6/i386-linux-thread-multi /us
r/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.5/i386-linux-thread-multi
/usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.8 /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.7
 /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.6 /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.5
/usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl /usr/lib/perl5/5.8.8/i386
-linux-thread-multi /usr/lib/perl5/5.8.8) at /usr/bin/sa-update l

pete



Nigel Frankcom-2 wrote:
 
 On Mon, 8 Jun 2009 03:30:59 -0700 (PDT), snowweb pe...@snowweb.co.uk
 wrote:
 

I've just heard about sa-update and tried to run it. I was thinking of
setting up a cron to do it daily, however, I got the following error
message
when I ran it manually:

[r...@s1 spamassassin]# sa-update  service spamassassin restart
Can't locate Archive/Tar.pm in @INC (@INC contains:
/usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.8/i386-linux-thread-multi /usr/lib/per
l5/site_perl/5.8.8 /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.7/i386-linux-thread-multi
/usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.6/i386-linux-thr
ead-multi /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.5/i386-linux-thread-multi
/usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.7 /usr/lib/perl5/site_per
l/5.8.6 /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.5 /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl
/usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.8/i386-linux-thread-mult
i /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.7/i386-linux-thread-multi
/usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.6/i386-linux-thread-multi /us
r/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.5/i386-linux-thread-multi
/usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.8 /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.7
 /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.6 /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.5
/usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl /usr/lib/perl5/5.8.8/i386
-linux-thread-multi /usr/lib/perl5/5.8.8) at /usr/bin/sa-update line 81.
BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at /usr/bin/sa-update line 81.

Any ideas please?

pete
 
 I think the Tar package is available via yum if you want an easy way
 to keep it current. If not Install it via CPAN. You may need to
 restart SA after, not sure.
 
 It may also be worth running spamassassin --lint -D to see if you
 are missing any other packages.
 
 HTH
 
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Re: tests= SIZE_LIMIT_EXCEEDED ??

2009-06-08 Thread Matt Kettler
Stefan-Michael Guenther wrote:
 Hi,

 I just had a closer look at the header of an email which should have
 been recognized by spamassassin as spam.

 Waht I found was this:

 X-SpamScore:   0
 tests= SIZE_LIMIT_EXCEEDED

 I have checked /usr/share/spamassassin/ for a rule which might contain
 a size limit, but didn't finde any.

 A search with Google didn't help either.

 So, any suggestions from the list members where I can define the size
 that has been exceeded?

 Thanks,

 Stefan


Interesting, are you just using spamc/spamd, or a different integration
tool?


In general it sounds like something decided not to feed the message to
the main SpamAssassin instance at all. Spamc can do this, but I didn't
know it added a test when doing so.

Also, X-SpamScore is not a default header, and one that SA couldn't add
itself. (it must add headers beginning with X-Spam-, so you'd get
X-Spam-Score at the closest), so I'm suspecting this was done by your
integration tools.




Re: sa-update error

2009-06-08 Thread snowweb

I tested for two versions of perl using which perl and it only returned one
location.

I'm using CentOS 5.0 and I'm running DirectAdmin hosting software. The SA
was installed by the script which installed the DirectAdmin. I don't
understand how or where it got the SA from. Again, I don't know where the
perl came from either. Is there a way I can find out?

How will I check whether I have an incorrectly set environment variable
PERL5LIB set somewhere in startup/config files?

I should also mention that apart from the sa-update not working (and
FuzzyOcr SA plugin which I'm also working on), SA is working ok.

Thanks for your help Matus,

pete





Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote:
 
 IIRC another answer said you probably have two perl versions installed
 separately. Check for that first. Then, check these:
 
 - which software (linux) distribution do you have? 
 - do you have spamassassin installed from the distribution?
 - do you have perl installed from the distribution?
 - don't you have incorrectly set environment variable PERL5LIB set
 somewhere
 in startup/config files?
 

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Re: sa-update error

2009-06-08 Thread Mark Wendt (Contractor)
Using the command which perl will only turn up the first instance 
of perl in your path.  Try this: cd to the root directory, then type 
find . -name perl -print and hit return.  The find command will 
recursively search through all the directories on the machine and 
locate all files named perl.


Mark


At 08:50 AM 6/8/2009, snowweb wrote:


I tested for two versions of perl using which perl and it only returned one
location.

I'm using CentOS 5.0 and I'm running DirectAdmin hosting software. The SA
was installed by the script which installed the DirectAdmin. I don't
understand how or where it got the SA from. Again, I don't know where the
perl came from either. Is there a way I can find out?

How will I check whether I have an incorrectly set environment variable
PERL5LIB set somewhere in startup/config files?

I should also mention that apart from the sa-update not working (and
FuzzyOcr SA plugin which I'm also working on), SA is working ok.

Thanks for your help Matus,

pete





Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote:

 IIRC another answer said you probably have two perl versions installed
 separately. Check for that first. Then, check these:

 - which software (linux) distribution do you have?
 - do you have spamassassin installed from the distribution?
 - do you have perl installed from the distribution?
 - don't you have incorrectly set environment variable PERL5LIB set
 somewhere
 in startup/config files?


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Re: sa-update error

2009-06-08 Thread snowweb

Guys, thanks to you all. You're all the most helpful people I've come across
online!

I think Stefan-Michael Guenther fixed it when he emailed me and told me to
run this:

perl -MCPAN -e shell
install Archive::Tar

Now when I type sa-update, although I don't get any feedback, I don't get
any errors either, so I guess it's fixed.

regards and many thanks

pete



snowweb wrote:
 
 I've just heard about sa-update and tried to run it. I was thinking of
 setting up a cron to do it daily, however, I got the following error
 message when I ran it manually:
 
 [r...@s1 spamassassin]# sa-update  service spamassassin restart
 Can't locate Archive/Tar.pm in @INC (@INC contains:
 /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.8/i386-linux-thread-multi /usr/lib/per
 l5/site_perl/5.8.8 /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.7/i386-linux-thread-multi
 /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.6/i386-linux-thr
 ead-multi /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.5/i386-linux-thread-multi
 /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.7 /usr/lib/perl5/site_per
 l/5.8.6 /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.5 /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl
 /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.8/i386-linux-thread-mult
 i /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.7/i386-linux-thread-multi
 /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.6/i386-linux-thread-multi /us
 r/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.5/i386-linux-thread-multi
 /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.8 /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.7
  /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.6 /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.5
 /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl /usr/lib/perl5/5.8.8/i386
 -linux-thread-multi /usr/lib/perl5/5.8.8) at /usr/bin/sa-update line 81.
 BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at /usr/bin/sa-update line 81.
 
 Any ideas please?
 
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Re: sa-update error

2009-06-08 Thread The Doctor
On Mon, Jun 08, 2009 at 03:30:59AM -0700, snowweb wrote:
 
 I've just heard about sa-update and tried to run it. I was thinking of
 setting up a cron to do it daily, however, I got the following error message
 when I ran it manually:
 
 [r...@s1 spamassassin]# sa-update  service spamassassin restart
 Can't locate Archive/Tar.pm in @INC (@INC contains:
 /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.8/i386-linux-thread-multi /usr/lib/per
 l5/site_perl/5.8.8 /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.7/i386-linux-thread-multi
 /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.6/i386-linux-thr
 ead-multi /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.5/i386-linux-thread-multi
 /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.7 /usr/lib/perl5/site_per
 l/5.8.6 /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.5 /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl
 /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.8/i386-linux-thread-mult
 i /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.7/i386-linux-thread-multi
 /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.6/i386-linux-thread-multi /us
 r/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.5/i386-linux-thread-multi
 /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.8 /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.7
  /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.6 /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.5
 /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl /usr/lib/perl5/5.8.8/i386
 -linux-thread-multi /usr/lib/perl5/5.8.8) at /usr/bin/sa-update line 81.
 BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at /usr/bin/sa-update line 81.
 
 Any ideas please?


You need to install Archive-Tar .

You can either use cpan or http://search.cpan.org .
 
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Re: Next Rule Causing False Positives: BOTNET

2009-06-08 Thread Rich Shepard

On Sat, 6 Jun 2009, John Rudd wrote:


Probably a good approach for your situation.  Let me know how the lower
score works out for you (when you said 80% in the other message, do you
mean you're lowering it to a score of 1.0, or to a score of 4.0?)


John,

  It seems to be working better with the SPAMBOT score lowered to 2.0, and
scores of 0.4 for the individual components.

  Now that my mail has settled back to normal I'll again thank everyone and
leave the list.

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Re: sa-update error

2009-06-08 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
On 08.06.09 06:04, snowweb wrote:
 Guys, thanks to you all. You're all the most helpful people I've come across
 online!
 
 I think Stefan-Michael Guenther fixed it when he emailed me and told me to
 run this:
 
 perl -MCPAN -e shell
 install Archive::Tar
 
 Now when I type sa-update, although I don't get any feedback, I don't get
 any errors either, so I guess it's fixed.

I don't think this is a good solution - all possible packages should be
installed through your package system, which ir apparently yum/RPM.
Otherwise, you may cause even more problems in the future.

So, make sure you have only one perl installed, that it's installed using
yum and if you can install Archive::Tar through yum (maybe archive-tar or
perl-archive-tar package), do that.

Proper packaging system should take care of dependencies, from SA to perl
and its packages, so your problem should not even happen!

And, of course, such questions belong more to your packaging systems'
mailing list, not here...

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backscatter from dnswl

2009-06-08 Thread Arvid Picciani

Hi,
i'm getting _massive_  amounts of backscatter and some of the offenders 
are listed in dnswl.org.

is there anything i can do about that?
thanks


Re: backscatter from dnswl

2009-06-08 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
On 08.06.09 15:41, Arvid Picciani wrote:
 i'm getting _massive_  amounts of backscatter and some of the offenders  
 are listed in dnswl.org.
 is there anything i can do about that?

ask for DNSWL delisting, if the backscatters are generated by dnswl hosts
(if the hosts in the dnswl are the sources, not victims).
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Re: backscatter from dnswl

2009-06-08 Thread Arvid Picciani

Matus UHLAR - fantomas schrieb:

On 08.06.09 15:41, Arvid Picciani wrote:
  
i'm getting _massive_  amounts of backscatter and some of the offenders  
are listed in dnswl.org.

is there anything i can do about that?



ask for DNSWL delisting, if the backscatters are generated by dnswl hosts
(if the hosts in the dnswl are the sources, not victims).
  
Depends on interpretation of victim.  I personaly  don't think 
misconfigured hosts belong in a whitelist, no matter if the admins are 
well meaning.


Re: tests= SIZE_LIMIT_EXCEEDED ??

2009-06-08 Thread Karsten Bräckelmann
On Mon, 2009-06-08 at 08:48 -0400, Matt Kettler wrote:
 Stefan-Michael Guenther wrote:
 
  I just had a closer look at the header of an email which should have
  been recognized by spamassassin as spam.
 
  Waht I found was this:
 
  X-SpamScore:   0
  tests= SIZE_LIMIT_EXCEEDED

 Interesting, are you just using spamc/spamd, or a different integration
 tool?

Looking at the OPs headers, it's a setting in his Amavisd-new.

 In general it sounds like something decided not to feed the message to
 the main SpamAssassin instance at all. Spamc can do this, but I didn't
 know it added a test when doing so.

It doesn't. :)  Neither tests, nor headers. spamc will return the
message unprocessed, if the size limit is exceeded.


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Re: backscatter from dnswl

2009-06-08 Thread Martin Gregorie
On Mon, 2009-06-08 at 15:41 +0200, Arvid Picciani wrote:
 Hi,
 i'm getting _massive_  amounts of backscatter and some of the offenders 
 are listed in dnswl.org.
 is there anything i can do about that?
 thanks

Has your domain got an SPF record? If not, setting one up may well help.
Some time back I started getting a lot of backscatter due to some
spammer forging my address as a spam sender. I set up an SPF record and
back scatter tailed off rather quickly. May be I was lucky, but it
certainly worked for me. However, it most be set up right: I used the
wizard at http://www.openspf.org/ to create it and the testing tools at
http://www.kitterman.com/spf/validate.html to validate the result, which
was initially wrong. SPF had no impact on backscatter until the
Kitterman validation tools passed my setup as correct.


Martin




Re: backscatter from dnswl

2009-06-08 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
 On 08.06.09 15:41, Arvid Picciani wrote:
 i'm getting _massive_  amounts of backscatter and some of the 
 offenders  are listed in dnswl.org.
 is there anything i can do about that?

 Matus UHLAR - fantomas schrieb:
 ask for DNSWL delisting, if the backscatters are generated by dnswl hosts
 (if the hosts in the dnswl are the sources, not victims).

On 08.06.09 15:50, Arvid Picciani wrote:
 Depends on interpretation of victim.  I personaly  don't think  
 misconfigured hosts belong in a whitelist, no matter if the admins are  
 well meaning.

an organization whose customer(s) started to spreading delivery notices even
if the organization required not to do so...

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Re: [sa] New slew of spams

2009-06-08 Thread ktn

I am also starting to get a lot of these .rtf attachment only with no email
body text spams.  Unfortunately, we use hostmonster.com for our email so my
ability to customize SA is greatly limited (i.e. I cannot use custom rules).

So if I understand correctly: currently there is no standard rule in SA (we
use 3.2.4) for filtering out mail with attachments but no text.


Charles Gregory wrote:
 
 On Fri, 5 Jun 2009, Jeremy Morton wrote:
 I've suddenly started getting a new slew of spams that are making their
 way 
 through my SpamAssassin filter.
 
 These are examples of the new variant on 'image only' spams, having only a 
 rtf file attachment, instead of an image. Check the archives and you will
 find rules to tag messages with 'octet-stream mime part but no text part'.
 Quite effective.
 

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Re: New Spam Mails plz suggest

2009-06-08 Thread Karsten Bräckelmann
On Mon, 2009-06-08 at 14:01 +0200, Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote:
 On 08.06.09 12:21, Karsten Bräckelmann wrote:
  By authenticated users? So that's no bot spam, and the user spams
  deliberately and consciously...
 
 says who? Afaik spamware often uses outlook's SMTP engine, so it's quite
 common for those to be distributed with authentication info.

Got any stats about a non-negligible amount of bot spam authenticating
with the real user's SMTP, instead of direkt-to-MX submission?


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Re: [sa] New slew of spams

2009-06-08 Thread John Hardin

On Mon, 8 Jun 2009, ktn wrote:

I am also starting to get a lot of these .rtf attachment only with no 
email body text spams.  Unfortunately, we use hostmonster.com for our 
email so my ability to customize SA is greatly limited (i.e. I cannot 
use custom rules).


Bummer.

Does hostmonster run sa-update at all?

So if I understand correctly: currently there is no standard rule in SA 
(we use 3.2.4) for filtering out mail with attachments but no text.


That is correct. I hope (when I get write access to the repo) to add them 
to the 3.2.5 rules so they will go out via sa-update. Is there any way you 
can upgrade to 3.2.5?


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Re: [sa] New slew of spams

2009-06-08 Thread ktn

We haven't been with hostmonster long, but considering that they're running
3.2.4 right now, I would assume at some point that they will update to
3.2.5.  Until then, I can be patient.  I'm just glad to hear that a standard
rule for this kind of spam will be added to SA!  Many thanks.


John Hardin wrote:
 
 Does hostmonster run sa-update at all?
 
 So if I understand correctly: currently there is no standard rule in SA 
 (we use 3.2.4) for filtering out mail with attachments but no text.
 
 That is correct. I hope (when I get write access to the repo) to add them 
 to the 3.2.5 rules so they will go out via sa-update. Is there any way you 
 can upgrade to 3.2.5?
 

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Re: New Spam Mails plz suggest

2009-06-08 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
 On Mon, 2009-06-08 at 14:01 +0200, Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote:
  On 08.06.09 12:21, Karsten Bräckelmann wrote:
   By authenticated users? So that's no bot spam, and the user spams
   deliberately and consciously...
  
  says who? Afaik spamware often uses outlook's SMTP engine, so it's quite
  common for those to be distributed with authentication info.

On 08.06.09 16:52, Karsten Bräckelmann wrote:
 Got any stats about a non-negligible amount of bot spam authenticating
 with the real user's SMTP, instead of direkt-to-MX submission?

Why should I have any? Any spamming client can get us to blacklist, so it's
important that they would not spread spam...
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Re: [sa] New slew of spams

2009-06-08 Thread John Hardin

On Mon, 8 Jun 2009, ktn wrote:


We haven't been with hostmonster long, but considering that they're running
3.2.4 right now, I would assume at some point that they will update to
3.2.5.  Until then, I can be patient.  I'm just glad to hear that a standard
rule for this kind of spam will be added to SA!  Many thanks.


Don't hold your breath. I'm still new to this, there may be a lot of delay 
that I'm not aware of before those new rules get added to the 3.2.5 base.



John Hardin wrote:


Does hostmonster run sa-update at all?


So if I understand correctly: currently there is no standard rule in SA
(we use 3.2.4) for filtering out mail with attachments but no text.


That is correct. I hope (when I get write access to the repo) to add them
to the 3.2.5 rules so they will go out via sa-update. Is there any way you
can upgrade to 3.2.5?


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  a disciplinary policy and some signs keep guns out of a university?
---
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Re: [sa] New slew of spams

2009-06-08 Thread Martin Gregorie
On Mon, 2009-06-08 at 07:17 -0700, ktn wrote:
 I am also starting to get a lot of these .rtf attachment only with no email
 body text spams.  Unfortunately, we use hostmonster.com for our email so my
 ability to customize SA is greatly limited (i.e. I cannot use custom rules).
 
You can, of course, run your own copy of SA 3.2.5 if you have a house or
office server that's running a private MTA to service a private LAN.
  

Martin




Re: New slew of spams

2009-06-08 Thread Charles Gregory

On Mon, 8 Jun 2009, ktn wrote:
I am also starting to get a lot of these .rtf attachment only with no 
email body text spams.  Unfortunately, we use hostmonster.com for our 
email so my ability to customize SA is greatly limited (i.e. I cannot 
use custom rules).


Do you mean that they won't allow 'local.cf' or that
they won't allow 'user_prefs'? I'd be a bit surprised if the latter
were not available

- Charles


Re: New Spam Mails plz suggest

2009-06-08 Thread Karsten Bräckelmann
On Mon, 2009-06-08 at 17:42 +0200, Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote:
 On 08.06.09 16:52, Karsten Bräckelmann wrote:
  Got any stats about a non-negligible amount of bot spam authenticating
  with the real user's SMTP, instead of direkt-to-MX submission?
 
 Why should I have any? Any spamming client can get us to blacklist, so it's
 important that they would not spread spam...

Oh, I thought you could back up your claim... Never mind.


-- 
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(c=*++x); c128  (s+=h); if (!(h=1)||!t[s+h]){ putchar(t[s]);h=m;s=0; }}}



Re: [sa] Re: New Spam Mails plz suggest

2009-06-08 Thread Charles Gregory

On 08.06.09 12:21, Karsten Bräckelmann wrote:

By authenticated users? So that's no bot spam, and the user spams
deliberately and consciously...

On Mon, 2009-06-08 at 14:01 +0200, Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote:

says who? Afaik spamware often uses outlook's SMTP engine, so it's
quite common for those to be distributed with authentication info.

On 08.06.09 16:52, Karsten Bräckelmann wrote:

Got any stats about a non-negligible amount of bot spam authenticating
with the real user's SMTP, instead of direkt-to-MX submission?

On Mon, 8 Jun 2009, Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote:
Why should I have any? Any spamming client can get us to blacklist, so 
it's important that they would not spread spam...


I believe his request for stats is a polite way of disagreeing with your 
statement that bots 'often' use Outlook SMTP Auth. Personally, I have 
always thought that bots avoided ISP mail servers in order to minimize 
detection and maximize the amount of time they can spew before being
blocked/deleted. This is actually the premise that makes RBl checks for 
'direct to MX' so successful. So your statement was quite surprising.


Rather than just challenge its accuracy, we politely ask for more info. :)

- Charles



BOTNET plugin download

2009-06-08 Thread RW

The BOTNET plugin isn't covered in the CustomPlugins wiki page. When I
Googled it I found this:

http://people.ucsc.edu/~jrudd/spamassassin/Botnet.tar

but it's a bit old. Is there a later version?


Re: BOTNET plugin download

2009-06-08 Thread Jari Fredriksson
 The BOTNET plugin isn't covered in the CustomPlugins wiki
 page. When I Googled it I found this:
 
 http://people.ucsc.edu/~jrudd/spamassassin/Botnet.tar
 
 but it's a bit old. Is there a later version?

That's 0.8 which is AFAIK the latest.


Re: Question on add-to-blacklist

2009-06-08 Thread Larry Starr
Just wanted to pass along a thank you to those who helped out here and provide 
a few notes, on my experience, that may help anyone else that is looking at 
this.

By the way, converting to MySQL did alleviate the problems that I was seeing 
when attempting to apply updates to AWL ... processes that were taking hours 
are now taking seconds!

Along the way I discovered a few things:
1)  We have been running SA for several years and the AWL was far too large 
for any of the scripts, that I downloaded for conversion.
2)  The time to load the MySQL database, with per-row insert logic was 
daunting.

Note:  I made a few passes at this before hitting on a working solution.

I found it, much, faster, to unload the existing DB to a delimited file, and 
use mysql load to load the AWL from that file.

What I wound up with was a scrit to:
. Unload the DB (formatting a flat delimited file):
  This was created from the convert_awl_dbm_to_sql script downloaded 
  from the spamassassin/tools.  Substituting output, to stdout, for the 
  mysql insert statement, and modifying the loop to use each rather than 
  attempting to build and array of @k as well as adding some trim 
  functionality:

# my @k = grep(!/totscore$/,keys(%h));
# for my $key (@k) {
our $rowsread;
our $rowsinsert;
print stderr Processing: $db \n;
while(my ($key, $v) = each %h)
{
  next if $key =~ /totscore$/; # Skip totscore entries 
  $rowsread++;
  next if ($v  2); # skip one off entries.
  .
  .
  .
  $rowsinsert++;
  print '',$opt{'username'},',','',$email,',','',$ip,',',
$count,',',$totscore,\n;
  .
  .
  .

. Drop and create the AWL table (the drop becuase of earlier experiments).
drop table awl;
CREATE TABLE awl (
  username varchar(100) NOT NULL default '',
  email varchar(200) NOT NULL default '',
  ip varchar(10) NOT NULL default '',
  count int(11) default '0',
  totscore float default '0',
  lastupdate timestamp(14) NOT NULL DEFAULT CURRENT_TIMESTAMP ON
  UPDATE CURRENT_TIMESTAMP,
  PRIMARY KEY  (username,email,ip)
) TYPE=MyISAM;

. load the MySQL database:
LOAD DATA INFILE '/home/larrys/sa_tools/awl.load' 
REPLACE 
INTO TABLE awl 
FIELDS TERMINATED BY ',' OPTIONALLY ENCLOSED BY '' 
(username, email, ip, count, totscore) 
SET lastupdate = CURRENT_TIMESTAMP;

Following this it was a simple matter of sliding the new local.cf into place 
and restarting processesses.

So far everything seems to be running well.

Thanks again
-- 
Larry G. Starr - lar...@fullcompass.com or sta...@globaldialog.com
Software Engineer: Full Compass Systems LTD.
Phone: 608-831-7330 x 1347  FAX: 608-831-6330
===
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racing, all the rest are merely games! - Ernest Hemmingway


Re: New slew of spams

2009-06-08 Thread ktn

I can edit 'user_prefs' and customize scores for existing tests, but when I
tried to add custom rules to 'user_prefs' they somehow got ignored.  Weird.

Here's the details from a hostmonster 
http://www.hostmonsterforum.com/showthread.php?t=2364 forum post :


 First off, hostmonster does not use the spamassassin command to run SA,
 they use the server/client spamd/spamc method. Therefore if you want to
 duplicate what is happening when you email arrives, you will need to do
 this in a shell:
 
 % spamc  mail_message
 
 If you try to use spamassassin from the shell, then things don't quite
 work right, namely it won't find the site configuration file AND it will
 process your $HOME/.spamassassin/user_prefs file differently than if you
 had run spamc
 
 By default, the spamd daemon does not allow user defined rules.
 Hostmonster needs to set allow_user_rules to 1 in the system
 configuration file. I asked about this and that's something that they will
 not do.
 


Charles Gregory wrote:
 
 On Mon, 8 Jun 2009, ktn wrote:
 I am also starting to get a lot of these .rtf attachment only with no 
 email body text spams.  Unfortunately, we use hostmonster.com for our 
 email so my ability to customize SA is greatly limited (i.e. I cannot 
 use custom rules).
 
 Do you mean that they won't allow 'local.cf' or that
 they won't allow 'user_prefs'? I'd be a bit surprised if the latter
 were not available
 

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Re: New slew of spams

2009-06-08 Thread John Hardin

On Mon, 8 Jun 2009, ktn wrote:

By default, the spamd daemon does not allow user defined rules. 
Hostmonster needs to set allow_user_rules to 1 in the system 
configuration file. I asked about this and that's something that they 
will not do.


...which is completely reasonable in a shared-hosting environment. You 
don't want to risk someone malicious adding a denial-of-service rule.


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 jhar...@impsec.orgFALaholic #11174 pgpk -a jhar...@impsec.org
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  becomes corrupt.
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Re: New Spam Mails plz suggest

2009-06-08 Thread LuKreme

On 8-Jun-2009, at 09:42, Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote:

On Mon, 2009-06-08 at 14:01 +0200, Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote:

On 08.06.09 12:21, Karsten Bräckelmann wrote:

By authenticated users? So that's no bot spam, and the user spams
deliberately and consciously...


says who? Afaik spamware often uses outlook's SMTP engine, so it's  
quite

common for those to be distributed with authentication info.


On 08.06.09 16:52, Karsten Bräckelmann wrote:
Got any stats about a non-negligible amount of bot spam  
authenticating

with the real user's SMTP, instead of direkt-to-MX submission?


Why should I have any?


Because you are asserting something we know is not true. Your choices  
are 1) prove it 2) be dismissed.


--
Boy, it sure would be nice if we had some grenades,
don'tcha think?



Private whitelisting

2009-06-08 Thread Neil Schwartzman
qq: How do would I get spamassassin to reference an internal list of IPs?
(This would be all of our client IPs in either suspended or active states on
our whitelists to avoid denying access to our ticketing system from those
clients with dnsbl listings) I know how to aggregate the data, just want a
clue offered as to how to call them from SA.

TIA
-- 
Neil Schwartzman
Director, Accreditation Security  Standards
Certified | Safelist
Return Path Inc.
0142002038




Re: Private whitelisting

2009-06-08 Thread John Hardin

On Mon, 8 Jun 2009, Neil Schwartzman wrote:

qq: How do would I get spamassassin to reference an internal list of 
IPs? (This would be all of our client IPs in either suspended or active 
states on our whitelists to avoid denying access to our ticketing system 
from those clients with dnsbl listings) I know how to aggregate the 
data, just want a clue offered as to how to call them from SA.


Two ways:

(1) Set up an internal DNS zone and do a negative-scoring DNSBL lookup,

or

(2) Do it at the MTA level and bypass SA for those IPs completely.

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Re: sa-update error

2009-06-08 Thread Benny Pedersen

On Mon, June 8, 2009 14:27, snowweb wrote:
 Sorry for my ignorance. I'm very new to Linux. Which missing perl module
 is that please?

there is non missing, you just have another perl version that miss it, how
to resolve problem with 2 versions of perl with yum i dont know, but solve
this and the remaining problem with mission perl modules will wanish at
the same time, if not ask distro maintainers for help on that issue, its
not a spamassassin problem

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Re: sa-update error

2009-06-08 Thread Benny Pedersen

On Mon, June 8, 2009 14:30, snowweb wrote:

 When I do which perl it only returns,

 /usr/bin/perl

unsure if thats relayted

 doesn't this mean that I only have one installed? (I'm not arguing.. just
 trying to understand, since I'm new to Linux).

spamassassin 21 -D --lint

grep 5.8 on it

if you see 5.8.6 and 5.8.8 there we go

try remove the old perl version, but make sure all modules in 5.8.8 is
installed first

does there exists a perl-cleanup in you distro ?

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Re: sa-update error

2009-06-08 Thread Benny Pedersen

On Mon, June 8, 2009 14:41, snowweb wrote:

 Then I tried again with sa-update and got the following:

 [r...@s1 spamassassin]# sa-update
 Can't locate Archive/Tar.pm in @INC (@INC contains:
 /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.8/i386-linux-thread-multi /usr/lib/per
 l5/site_perl/5.8.8 /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.7/i386-linux-thread-multi
 /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.6/i386-linux-thr
 ead-multi /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.5/i386-linux-thread-multi
 /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.7 /usr/lib/perl5/site_per
 l/5.8.6 /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.5 /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl
 /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.8/i386-linux-thread-mult
 i /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.7/i386-linux-thread-multi
 /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.6/i386-linux-thread-multi /us
 r/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.5/i386-linux-thread-multi
 /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.8 /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.7
  /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.6 /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.5
 /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl /usr/lib/perl5/5.8.8/i386
 -linux-thread-multi /usr/lib/perl5/5.8.8) at /usr/bin/sa-update l

5.8.5
5.8.6
5.8.7
5.8.8

4 perl versions, are your distro out of there mind ? :)

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Re: sa-update error

2009-06-08 Thread Benny Pedersen

On Mon, June 8, 2009 15:04, snowweb wrote:

 so I guess it's fixed.

until next time there is a new perl version yes :/

newer mix CPAN with a RPM system !


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Re: sa-update error

2009-06-08 Thread Benny Pedersen

On Mon, June 8, 2009 15:26, The Doctor wrote:

 You can either use cpan or http://search.cpan.org .

bad advise !

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Re: backscatter from dnswl

2009-06-08 Thread Benny Pedersen

On Mon, June 8, 2009 15:41, Arvid Picciani wrote:

 is there anything i can do about that?

report to dnswl at there site ?

http://www.dnswl.org/

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Re: sa-update error

2009-06-08 Thread Martin Gregorie
On Tue, 2009-06-09 at 00:39 +0200, Benny Pedersen wrote:
 does there exists a perl-cleanup in you distro ?
 
There's not a general one. On the assumption (true for Fedora) that both
Perl and SA are distro supported packages, if I was tackling this I'd do
the following:

- make safety copies of SA customisation.
- yum remove perl spamassassin
- updatedb
- use 'locate perl' to see if there are any other copies of perl - 
  there is in this case. At a guess it is a CPAN install.
- remove it using 'rm -rf' as it is unlikely to be an RPM package
- check that Perl is definitely gone. (updatedb; locate perl)
- get the latest distro versions: yum install perl spamassassin
- replace SA customisation if it got overwritten.
- check that the default PATH doesn't point to anything that was
  removed. It is set up in /etc/profile plus extras from /etc/profile.d

Martin




Re: sa-update error

2009-06-08 Thread Benny Pedersen

On Tue, June 9, 2009 00:59, Martin Gregorie wrote:
 On Tue, 2009-06-09 at 00:39 +0200, Benny Pedersen wrote:
 does there exists a perl-cleanup in you distro ?

 There's not a general one. On the assumption (true for Fedora) that both
 Perl and SA are distro supported packages, if I was tackling this I'd do
 the following:

 - make safety copies of SA customisation.
 - yum remove perl spamassassin
 - updatedb
 - use 'locate perl' to see if there are any other copies of perl -
   there is in this case. At a guess it is a CPAN install.
 - remove it using 'rm -rf' as it is unlikely to be an RPM package
 - check that Perl is definitely gone. (updatedb; locate perl)
 - get the latest distro versions: yum install perl spamassassin
 - replace SA customisation if it got overwritten.
 - check that the default PATH doesn't point to anything that was
   removed. It is set up in /etc/profile plus extras from /etc/profile.d

yes, when no perl is installed you can yum install spamassassin as it was
ment to from distros, if still problem with

spamassassin 21 -D --lint

after this then report it to your distro as a dependice problem

i remember perl problems from my old freebsd 4.9 :=)

newer happended on gentoo here


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Re: tests= SIZE_LIMIT_EXCEEDED ??

2009-06-08 Thread Mark Martinec
Stefan,

 I just had a closer look at the header of an email which should have
 been recognized by spamassassin as spam.
 Waht I found was this:

 X-SpamScore:   0
 tests= SIZE_LIMIT_EXCEEDED

 I have checked /usr/share/spamassassin/ for a rule which might contain a
 size limit, but didn't finde any.
 A search with Google didn't help either.
 So, any suggestions from the list members where I can define the size
 that has been exceeded?

Some sw components to be ruled out:
- this isn't amavisd-new doing it, at least none of the official versions;
- this isn't Maia Mailguard;
- this isn't old versions of amavis;
- this isn't SpamAssassin (neither spamc/spamd, nor the library).

Although the most recent version of amavisd-new (2.6.3) does provide
ability to pass partial message to SpamAssassin and to insert rule hits
into the final result, this isn't the case here, and there is no
SIZE_LIMIT_EXCEEDED message generated anywhere.

Look for another culprit in your mail path, such as a webmail component
or a content filter at some ISP. My guess at pointing fingers is Nemesis.

  Mark


Re: BOTNET plugin download

2009-06-08 Thread John Rudd
On Mon, Jun 8, 2009 at 09:55, Jari Fredrikssonja...@iki.fi wrote:
 The BOTNET plugin isn't covered in the CustomPlugins wiki
 page. When I Googled it I found this:

 http://people.ucsc.edu/~jrudd/spamassassin/Botnet.tar

 but it's a bit old. Is there a later version?

 That's 0.8 which is AFAIK the latest.


Yes, 0.8 is the latest, and it's ... 2 years old now? or just 1.5?
somewhere around there.

I haven't really needed to do an update, though there are some things
I want to re-work once I get some spare time (mostly, how it does DNS
lookups, to use SA internals more).


Re: BOTNET plugin download

2009-06-08 Thread alexus
whats botnet plugin?

On Mon, Jun 8, 2009 at 7:23 PM, John Ruddjr...@ucsc.edu wrote:
 On Mon, Jun 8, 2009 at 09:55, Jari Fredrikssonja...@iki.fi wrote:
 The BOTNET plugin isn't covered in the CustomPlugins wiki
 page. When I Googled it I found this:

 http://people.ucsc.edu/~jrudd/spamassassin/Botnet.tar

 but it's a bit old. Is there a later version?

 That's 0.8 which is AFAIK the latest.


 Yes, 0.8 is the latest, and it's ... 2 years old now? or just 1.5?
 somewhere around there.

 I haven't really needed to do an update, though there are some things
 I want to re-work once I get some spare time (mostly, how it does DNS
 lookups, to use SA internals more).




-- 
http://alexus.org/


Re: BOTNET plugin download

2009-06-08 Thread John Rudd
On Mon, Jun 8, 2009 at 16:31, alexusale...@gmail.com wrote:
 whats botnet plugin?

It's a SpamAssassin plugin looks at DNS configurations and attempts to
identify hosts that are probably actually clients that are sending
email directly to your server, instead of through their own mail
server.

There's a high likelihood that those senders are actually botnets and
not legitimate senders.  Thus the name of the plugin.  But, botnets
aren't its only purpose.  It's also an encouragement for email admins
to follow best practices in how they set up the DNS of their mail
servers.



 On Mon, Jun 8, 2009 at 7:23 PM, John Ruddjr...@ucsc.edu wrote:
 On Mon, Jun 8, 2009 at 09:55, Jari Fredrikssonja...@iki.fi wrote:
 The BOTNET plugin isn't covered in the CustomPlugins wiki
 page. When I Googled it I found this:

 http://people.ucsc.edu/~jrudd/spamassassin/Botnet.tar

 but it's a bit old. Is there a later version?

 That's 0.8 which is AFAIK the latest.


 Yes, 0.8 is the latest, and it's ... 2 years old now? or just 1.5?
 somewhere around there.

 I haven't really needed to do an update, though there are some things
 I want to re-work once I get some spare time (mostly, how it does DNS
 lookups, to use SA internals more).




 --
 http://alexus.org/



Re: tests= SIZE_LIMIT_EXCEEDED ??

2009-06-08 Thread Karsten Bräckelmann
On Tue, 2009-06-09 at 01:18 +0200, Mark Martinec wrote:
 
  X-SpamScore:   0
  tests= SIZE_LIMIT_EXCEEDED

 Some sw components to be ruled out:
 - this isn't amavisd-new doing it, at least none of the official versions;

Sorry, Mark. :)  I was entirely going by the OPs outgoing headers, which
clearly shows an amavisd-new header in the chain. Though at a second
look, I realize that's about a hop after SA processing...

 - this isn't Maia Mailguard;
 - this isn't old versions of amavis;
 - this isn't SpamAssassin (neither spamc/spamd, nor the library).
 
 Although the most recent version of amavisd-new (2.6.3) does provide
 ability to pass partial message to SpamAssassin and to insert rule hits
 into the final result, this isn't the case here, and there is no
 SIZE_LIMIT_EXCEEDED message generated anywhere.
 
 Look for another culprit in your mail path, such as a webmail component
 or a content filter at some ISP. My guess at pointing fingers is Nemesis.

Right, that's definitely something else adding the headers, as has been
pointed out before. Not SA. Anything, even a trivial filter foo calling
formail easily can inject such a header (though the order in the chain
may vary, which is not obvious from the OP).


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Re: New slew of spams

2009-06-08 Thread LuKreme

On 8-Jun-2009, at 11:19, ktn wrote:

By default, the spamd daemon does not allow user defined rules.
Hostmonster needs to set allow_user_rules to 1 in the system
configuration file. I asked about this and that's something that  
they will

not do.


It's a good thing there are other hosting companies that are not  
willfully retarded, isn't it?



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young woman. There was no possible way that she could have been
mistaken for a young man in any language, especially Braille.



Re: sa-update error

2009-06-08 Thread LuKreme

On 8-Jun-2009, at 16:50, Benny Pedersen wrote:

On Mon, June 8, 2009 15:26, The Doctor wrote:


You can either use cpan or http://search.cpan.org .


bad advise !


First off, it's 'advice' (the noun) in this case, not 'advise' (the  
verb).


Second off, there is absolutely nothing wrong with using CPAN.


--
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to state I finally won out over it.




Re: sa-update error

2009-06-08 Thread Benny Pedersen

On Tue, June 9, 2009 03:48, LuKreme wrote:
 Second off, there is absolutely nothing wrong with using CPAN.

OP problem is mix of CPAN and RPM, he dont need both to solve it

CPAN is usefull if one makes RPM with it, but most belive its better just
to follow guides and use CPAN shells, when distro is RPM based

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