Re: Bayes failure on hi, it's Somebody spam

2006-11-17 Thread Bart Schaefer

On 11/16/06, Jon Trulson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hmm, that has not been my experience at all... Bayes (99) is
 still catching every one for me.


In this instance, SpamAssassin is running after POP download from
gmail, so I'm only seeing the samples that have already made it
through google's filters.  That may have something to do with it.


Bayes failure on hi, it's Somebody spam

2006-11-16 Thread Bart Schaefer

It looks to me as if the recent spate of pump'n'dump spams are
deliberately crafted to avoid being Bayes-learned by spamassassin.  In
spite of all having different subject lines and senders and other
minor differences, once you've learned one of them sa-learn ignores
all the rest -- and they all still get a BAYES_00 score for me.

I thought I had  a pretty good understanding of how SA's Bayes
training worked, but this is pretty clearly confusing it somehow.


Re: Bayes failure on hi, it's Somebody spam

2006-11-16 Thread Jon Trulson

On Thu, 16 Nov 2006, Bart Schaefer wrote:


It looks to me as if the recent spate of pump'n'dump spams are
deliberately crafted to avoid being Bayes-learned by spamassassin.  In
spite of all having different subject lines and senders and other
minor differences, once you've learned one of them sa-learn ignores
all the rest -- and they all still get a BAYES_00 score for me.

I thought I had  a pretty good understanding of how SA's Bayes
training worked, but this is pretty clearly confusing it somehow.



Hmm, that has not been my experience at all... Bayes (99) is
still catching every one for me.  There may be something else
going wrong with your setup - no idea what offhand though,
sorry.


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