Re: [sa] Re: End of Thread [Was: [Emerging-Sigs] SIG: SpamAssassin Milter Plugin Remote Arbitrary Command Injection Attempt]

2010-03-09 Thread Charles Gregory

On Tue, 9 Mar 2010, Ned Slider wrote:
It's clear you either haven't read or haven't understood what Kai wrote, 
which btw was spot on.


More attitude. Yeesh. Kai has an opinion. And in fairness, I give his 
arguments some serious weight. It's not black-n-white. But this attitude 
that he/you have the 'best' solution is just yeah YAWN.



End of Thread.


Hope so.


Re: End of Thread [Was: [Emerging-Sigs] SIG: SpamAssassin Milter Plugin Remote Arbitrary Command Injection Attempt]

2010-03-09 Thread Ned Slider

Brian wrote:

On Tue, 2010-03-09 at 12:35 +0100, Kai Schaetzl wrote:

Brian wrote on Tue, 09 Mar 2010 06:51:45 +:


Yes, but that does not answer my question {and is once more Postfix
biased} AFAIK Postfix is totally unable to reject mail at SMTP time that
Spamassassin decides IS SPAM without the aid of a milter or policy
deamon of some kind.
You have a very simplistic view on how mail transportation works and maybe 
on how software works. 
First: Postfix is a M Transport A and not a M Rejection A. It's common 
practice in software design to have plugins do work that the core 
package doesn't. 


YAWN - it's not about how software is constructed or what it does, but
more about what Postfix is incapable of doing and the old stock trollop
that is rolled out 'That's not the job of the MTA'. That answer was just
about good enough in the 1990's, but it's lame now.



It's clear you either haven't read or haven't understood what Kai wrote, 
which btw was spot on.


End of Thread.



Re: End of Thread [Was: [Emerging-Sigs] SIG: SpamAssassin Milter Plugin Remote Arbitrary Command Injection Attempt]

2010-03-09 Thread Brian
On Tue, 2010-03-09 at 12:16 +, Ned Slider wrote:
 Brian wrote:
  On Tue, 2010-03-09 at 12:35 +0100, Kai Schaetzl wrote:
  Brian wrote on Tue, 09 Mar 2010 06:51:45 +:
 
  Yes, but that does not answer my question {and is once more Postfix
  biased} AFAIK Postfix is totally unable to reject mail at SMTP time that
  Spamassassin decides IS SPAM without the aid of a milter or policy
  deamon of some kind.
  You have a very simplistic view on how mail transportation works and maybe 
  on how software works. 
  First: Postfix is a M Transport A and not a M Rejection A. It's common 
  practice in software design to have plugins do work that the core 
  package doesn't. 
  
  YAWN - it's not about how software is constructed or what it does, but
  more about what Postfix is incapable of doing and the old stock trollop
  that is rolled out 'That's not the job of the MTA'. That answer was just
  about good enough in the 1990's, but it's lame now.
  
 
 It's clear you either haven't read or haven't understood what Kai wrote, 
 which btw was spot on.
 
 End of Thread.

It's clear that you arn't able to answer the question. Fact, Postfix
lacks features.

End of thread



Re: End of Thread [Was: [Emerging-Sigs] SIG: SpamAssassin Milter Plugin Remote Arbitrary Command Injection Attempt]

2010-03-09 Thread Kai Schaetzl
Brian wrote on Tue, 09 Mar 2010 12:53:31 +:

 End of thread

Obvbiously not for you. Well.

Thank you so much for educating us clueless people. Thank you and good 
night.

Kai

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