Re: installing spamass-milter

2022-10-25 Thread Bill Cole 

On 2022-10-22 at 03:46:24 UTC-0400 (Sat, 22 Oct 2022 07:46:24 +)
Marc 
is rumored to have said:

WTF is this??? I just need milter to send requests to an external 
container. That should be 1MB install not 315MB.


MOST of that is build tools: GCC and its world of hurt, apparently 2 
versions of binutils, llvm-libs just because you can't have too many 
build worlds, plus quite randomly the whole Perl documentation set and 
SELinux management tools. I'm sure you don't really need all of that at 
runtime.


Talk to your packager. They can maybe explain the oddballs. The build 
tools are just build tools: if you build your own binaries, you need 
them.




Anyone else having this on a different distribution?


Probably. The spamass-milter software (which is NOT part OF 
SpamAssassin) requires a compiler and associated build tools. It has 
both build and runtime dependencies. Hilarity ensues...


For SpamAssassin proper, if you want to build the spamc binary yourself 
you need a compiler. If you want a fully-functional installation of SA 
you need a deep tree of Perl modules, which opens up a potential 
hellscape of dependencies.


SpamAssassin is not now and never has been designed to operate on 
severely constrained systems. If you want a smaller installation, you 
would need to build a customized package on a heftier system and just 
install the built artifacts. It would still include all those Perl 
modules, but there's no need to include a full build environment on  a 
machine that is just running SA.





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RE: installing spamass-milter

2022-10-22 Thread Marc 
> 
> spamass-milter isn't part of the Spamassassin project and is
> unmaintained by its upstream [https://github.com/andybalholm/spamass-
> milter], so you may have limited support opportunities here.
> 
> What you're seeing here is that the Fedora/EPEL "spamass-milter" package
> has a strong dependency on the complete "spamassassin" package (and thus
> all of its dependencies).  The package maintainer presumably expects
> that spamassassin is running in the same execution domain as your MTA,
> rather than a separate container.
> 
> You could rebuild the spamass-milter package from source, removing the
> spamassassin dependency from the spec file, to avoid this.  You can also
> submit RFE's against this component via this Bugzilla:
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/buglist.cgi?bug_status=NEW_status=ASSIGN
> ED=Fedora=spamass-
> milter=Fedora=Fedora%20EPEL

Hi Jered, thanks, indeed I rebuild from source but had to add the spamc binary.

Re: installing spamass-milter

2022-10-22 Thread Jered Floyd 


spamass-milter isn't part of the Spamassassin project and is unmaintained by 
its upstream [https://github.com/andybalholm/spamass-milter], so you may have 
limited support opportunities here. 

What you're seeing here is that the Fedora/EPEL "spamass-milter" package has a 
strong dependency on the complete "spamassassin" package (and thus all of its 
dependencies).  The package maintainer presumably expects that spamassassin is 
running in the same execution domain as your MTA, rather than a separate 
container.

You could rebuild the spamass-milter package from source, removing the 
spamassassin dependency from the spec file, to avoid this.  You can also submit 
RFE's against this component via this Bugzilla: 
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/buglist.cgi?bug_status=NEW_status=ASSIGNED=Fedora=spamass-milter=Fedora=Fedora%20EPEL

Regards,
--Jered

- On Oct 22, 2022, at 3:46 AM, Marc m...@f1-outsourcing.eu wrote:

> WTF is this??? I just need milter to send requests to an external container.
> That should be 1MB install not 315MB. Anyone else having this on a different
> distribution?
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Installing:
> spamass-milter  x86_64 0.4.0-13.el9  CentOS9_64-epel  
> 61
> k
> 
> Installing dependencies:
> annobin x86_64 10.73-3.el9   CentOS9stream-AppStream 
> 961
> k
> binutilsx86_64 2.35.2-24.el9 CentOS9stream   
> 4.6
> M
> checkpolicy x86_64 3.4-1.el9 CentOS9stream-AppStream 
> 347
> k
> cpp x86_64 11.3.1-2.1.el9CentOS9stream-AppStream  
> 11
> M
> dwz x86_64 0.14-3.el9CentOS9stream-AppStream 
> 128
> k
> efi-srpm-macros noarch 4-9.el9   CentOS9stream-AppStream  
> 23
> k
> elfutils-debuginfod-client  x86_64 0.187-5.el9   CentOS9stream
> 38
> k
> environment-modules x86_64 5.0.1-2.el9   CentOS9stream   
> 492
> k
> fonts-srpm-macros   noarch 1:2.0.5-7.el9.1   CentOS9stream-AppStream  
> 28
> k
> gcc-plugin-annobin  x86_64 11.3.1-2.1.el9CentOS9stream-AppStream  
> 69
> k
> gcc-toolset-12-binutils x86_64 2.38-16.el9   CentOS9stream-AppStream 
> 5.5
> M
> gcc-toolset-12-binutils-gold
> x86_64 2.38-14.el9   CentOS9stream-AppStream 
> 752 k
> gcc-toolset-12-runtime  x86_64 12.0-5.el9CentOS9stream-AppStream  
> 55
> k
> ghc-srpm-macros noarch 1.5.0-6.el9   CentOS9stream-AppStream 
> 8.8
> k
> glibc-devel x86_64 2.34-40.el9   CentOS9stream-AppStream  
> 43
> k
> glibc-headers   x86_64 2.34-40.el9   CentOS9stream-AppStream 
> 543
> k
> go-srpm-macros  noarch 3.0.9-9.el9   CentOS9stream-AppStream  
> 27
> k
> kernel-headers  x86_64 5.14.0-176.el9CentOS9stream-AppStream 
> 3.6
> M
> kernel-srpm-macros  noarch 1.0-11.el9CentOS9stream-AppStream  
> 16
> k
> libmpc  x86_64 1.2.1-4.el9   CentOS9stream-AppStream  
> 62
> k
> libpkgconf  x86_64 1.7.3-10.el9  CentOS9stream
> 36
> k
> libxcrypt-devel x86_64 4.4.18-3.el9  CentOS9stream-AppStream  
> 29
> k
> llvm-libs   x86_64 14.0.6-1.el9  CentOS9stream-AppStream  
> 20
> M
> lua-srpm-macros noarch 1-6.el9   CentOS9stream-AppStream 
> 9.5
> k
> mailcap noarch 2.1.49-5.el9  CentOS9stream
> 33
> k
> ocaml-srpm-macros   noarch 6-6.el9   CentOS9stream-AppStream 
> 8.8
> k
> openblas-srpm-macrosnoarch 2-11.el9  CentOS9stream-AppStream 
> 8.4
> k
> perl-Algorithm-Diff noarch 1.2010-4.el9  CentOS9stream-AppStream  
> 48
> k
> perl-Archive-Tarnoarch 2.38-6.el9CentOS9stream-AppStream  
> 72
> k
> perl-AutoSplit  noarch 5.74-479.el9  CentOS9stream-AppStream  
> 31
> k
> perl-BSD-Resource   x86_64 1.291.100-17.el9  CentOS9stream-AppStream  
> 46
> k
> perl-Benchmark  noarch 1.23-479.el9  CentOS9stream-AppStream  
> 36
> k
> perl-CPAN-Meta-YAML noarch 0.018-461.el9 CentOS9stream-AppStream  
> 27
> k
> perl-Compress-Raw-Bzip2 x86_64 2.101-5.el9   CentOS9stream-AppStream  
> 35
> k
> perl-Compress-Raw-Lzma  x86_64 2.101-3.el9   CentOS9stream-AppStream  
> 51
> k
> perl-Compress-Raw-Zlib  x86_64 2.101-5.el9   CentOS9stream-AppStream  
> 61
> k
> perl-Crypt-OpenSSL-Bignum   x86_64 0.09-16.el9   CentOS9stream-AppStream  
> 43
> k
> perl-Crypt-OpenSSL-RSA  x86_64 0.31-13.el9   CentOS9stream-AppStream  
> 44
> k
> perl-Crypt-OpenSSL-Random   x86_64 0.15-14.el9   CentOS9stream-AppStream  
> 27
> k
> perl-DB_Filex86_64 1.855-4.el9   CentOS9stream-AppStream  
> 82
> k
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> 34
> k
> perl-Devel-PPPort