Re: FREEMAIL_REPLY

2010-03-22 Thread John Hardin

On Mon, 22 Mar 2010, Jason Bertoch wrote:


Should FREEMAIL_REPLY really be looking in attachments


Sure. Just looking at the presence of freemail domains, there's nothing to 
distinguish the mail you got an FP report on from 419 spams that put the 
pitch and reply address in an attachment.


What else hit on that message?

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Re: FREEMAIL_REPLY

2010-03-22 Thread Jason Bertoch

On 2010/03/22 12:26 PM, John Hardin wrote:

On Mon, 22 Mar 2010, Jason Bertoch wrote:


Should FREEMAIL_REPLY really be looking in attachments


Sure. Just looking at the presence of freemail domains, there's nothing
to distinguish the mail you got an FP report on from 419 spams that put
the pitch and reply address in an attachment.

What else hit on that message?



I understand the benefit of looking in attachments, but wonder if it 
would make a difference in masscheck results to separate the two cases.


The message also hit on FREEMAIL_ENVFROM_END_DIGIT, BAYES_50, and 
MPART_ALT_DIFF pushing the score to 5.1.  I posted a question about 
scoring of FREEMAIL_ENVFROM_END_DIGIT directly to the dev list as I 
didn't feel it made much sense here.



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/Jason



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Re: FREEMAIL_REPLY

2010-03-22 Thread John Hardin

On Mon, 22 Mar 2010, Jason Bertoch wrote:


On 2010/03/22 12:26 PM, John Hardin wrote:

 On Mon, 22 Mar 2010, Jason Bertoch wrote:

  Should FREEMAIL_REPLY really be looking in attachments

 Sure. Just looking at the presence of freemail domains, there's nothing
 to distinguish the mail you got an FP report on from 419 spams that put
 the pitch and reply address in an attachment.

 What else hit on that message?


I understand the benefit of looking in attachments, but wonder if it would 
make a difference in masscheck results to separate the two cases.


Ah. Possibly.

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 John Hardin KA7OHZhttp://www.impsec.org/~jhardin/
 jhar...@impsec.orgFALaholic #11174 pgpk -a jhar...@impsec.org
 key: 0xB8732E79 -- 2D8C 34F4 6411 F507 136C  AF76 D822 E6E6 B873 2E79
---
  Men by their constitutions are naturally divided in to two parties:
  1. Those who fear and distrust the people and wish to draw all
  powers from them into the hands of the higher classes. 2. Those who
  identify themselves with the people, have confidence in them,
  cherish and consider them as the most honest and safe, although not
  the most wise, depository of the public interests.
  -- Thomas Jefferson
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Re: FREEMAIL_REPLY

2010-03-22 Thread Jason Bertoch

On 2010/03/22 1:03 PM, John Hardin wrote:

On Mon, 22 Mar 2010, Jason Bertoch wrote:


On 2010/03/22 12:26 PM, John Hardin wrote:

On Mon, 22 Mar 2010, Jason Bertoch wrote:

 Should FREEMAIL_REPLY really be looking in attachments

Sure. Just looking at the presence of freemail domains, there's nothing
to distinguish the mail you got an FP report on from 419 spams that put
the pitch and reply address in an attachment.

What else hit on that message?


I understand the benefit of looking in attachments, but wonder if it
would make a difference in masscheck results to separate the two cases.


Ah. Possibly.



Another possibly interesting item of note, there are two scores for 
FREEMAIL_REPLY:


20_freemail.cf:scoreFREEMAIL_REPLY  0.5
50_scores.cf:score FREEMAIL_REPLY 2.499 2.499 1.788 1.929


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/Jason



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