Re: [sa] Re: ruleset for German Bettchen and Schlafzimmer spam

2010-03-16 Thread Henrik K
On Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 11:17:09PM +0100, Karsten Bräckelmann wrote:
 On Mon, 2010-03-15 at 11:15 -0400, Charles Gregory wrote:
  H. I guess this goes back to my inquiry about the Brazilian spam
  
  I'm still looking for a way (hopefully) to simply identify the *language* 
  of the mail (when not determined from CHARSET_FARAWAY rules), so that our 
  users may opt-in for additional filtering based on language
 
 The TextCat plugin. Even part of stock SA, though not enabled by
 default. Supports per-user settings.

Though given the current bugs, I really would do any hard filtering..



Re: ruleset for German Bettchen and Schlafzimmer spam

2010-03-15 Thread Robert Schetterer
Am 15.03.2010 03:14, schrieb Marcus:
 Am Sonntag, den 14.03.2010, 23:31 +0100 schrieb Kai Schaetzl:
 Marcus wrote on Sun, 14 Mar 2010 21:16:31 +0100:

 The messages differ in subject and body.

 Do they? Hm, I must have overlooked this in your first message. Oh, wait, 
 after reading it a second time I still can't see it. I think you must have 
 forgotten to mention it.
 If you want help from the mailing list post some complete messages to 
 pastebin.
 
 Seems to be that other german speaking members of this list know what
 sort of spams I'm talking about. I got some helpful rulesets from them
 for this case. Thanks!
 
 Kai, thank you for your constructive help and good night,
 Marcus
 

Hi, i only get these from a forward service
from gmx , they are allready marked then , i let spamassassin them
autolearn by rule afterwards, so if they come next , they are noticed as
spam
so manual learning these mails should help as tmp workaround
analyse the headers to find out which procedure fits best
to catch/mark/reject them
use more rulesets anyway as recommended before

-- 
Best Regards

MfG Robert Schetterer

Germany/Munich/Bavaria


Re: [sa] Re: ruleset for German Bettchen and Schlafzimmer spam

2010-03-15 Thread Charles Gregory

On Sun, 14 Mar 2010, Jörg Frings-Fürst wrote:

take a look at http://wiki.apache.org/spamassassin/CustomRulesets
and search to German Language Ruleset.


H. I guess this goes back to my inquiry about the Brazilian spam

I'm still looking for a way (hopefully) to simply identify the *language* 
of the mail (when not determined from CHARSET_FARAWAY rules), so that our 
users may opt-in for additional filtering based on language


- Charles

Re: [sa] Re: ruleset for German Bettchen and Schlafzimmer spam

2010-03-15 Thread Karsten Bräckelmann
On Mon, 2010-03-15 at 11:15 -0400, Charles Gregory wrote:
 H. I guess this goes back to my inquiry about the Brazilian spam
 
 I'm still looking for a way (hopefully) to simply identify the *language* 
 of the mail (when not determined from CHARSET_FARAWAY rules), so that our 
 users may opt-in for additional filtering based on language

The TextCat plugin. Even part of stock SA, though not enabled by
default. Supports per-user settings.

But you just forked (to avoid the word hijacked) this thread, which is
about a very specific, on-going spam run. The OP really doesn't want to
identify German spam for scoring, cause that's likely his first
language. ;)


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Re: ruleset for German Bettchen and Schlafzimmer spam

2010-03-14 Thread Kai Schaetzl
Marcus wrote on Sun, 14 Mar 2010 17:10:08 +0100:

 I'm getting a lot of these German 'Mehr aus dauer in Ihrem Bettchen' and
 'Mehr ausdauer in Ihrem Schlafzimmer'. I've learnd my spamassassin for
 about a week. It decects some of them, but most are going through. All
 other kind of spam is detected very well. Did some know oder wrote a
 ruleset?

what is so difficult to match against Bettchen or Schlafzimmer? I'd say 
even a complete newbie will have this rule up and running after ten 
minutes and reading the rules how-to on the wiki.

Kai

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Re: ruleset for German Bettchen and Schlafzimmer spam

2010-03-14 Thread Jörg Frings-Fürst


Am Sonntag 14 März 2010 17:10:08 schrieb Marcus:
 Hi,
 
 I'm getting a lot of these German 'Mehr aus dauer in Ihrem Bettchen' and
 'Mehr ausdauer in Ihrem Schlafzimmer'. I've learnd my spamassassin for
 about a week. It decects some of them, but most are going through. All
 other kind of spam is detected very well. Did some know oder wrote a
 ruleset?
 
 Ciao,
 Marcus
 

Hi Marcus,

take a look at http://wiki.apache.org/spamassassin/CustomRulesets 
and search to German Language Ruleset.

CU

Joerg Frings-Fuerst


Re: ruleset for German Bettchen and Schlafzimmer spam

2010-03-14 Thread Marcus
Am Sonntag, den 14.03.2010, 18:31 +0100 schrieb Kai Schaetzl:
 Marcus wrote on Sun, 14 Mar 2010 17:10:08 +0100:
 
  I'm getting a lot of these German 'Mehr aus dauer in Ihrem Bettchen' and
  'Mehr ausdauer in Ihrem Schlafzimmer'. I've learnd my spamassassin for
  about a week. It decects some of them, but most are going through. All
  other kind of spam is detected very well. Did some know oder wrote a
  ruleset?
 
 what is so difficult to match against Bettchen or Schlafzimmer?

The messages differ in subject and body.

 I'd say 
 even a complete newbie will have this rule up and running after ten 
 minutes and reading the rules how-to on the wiki.

Ciao!



Re: ruleset for German Bettchen and Schlafzimmer spam

2010-03-14 Thread Kai Schaetzl
Marcus wrote on Sun, 14 Mar 2010 21:16:31 +0100:

 The messages differ in subject and body.

Do they? Hm, I must have overlooked this in your first message. Oh, wait, 
after reading it a second time I still can't see it. I think you must have 
forgotten to mention it.
If you want help from the mailing list post some complete messages to 
pastebin.

Kai

-- 
Get your web at Conactive Internet Services: http://www.conactive.com





Re: ruleset for German Bettchen and Schlafzimmer spam

2010-03-14 Thread Marcus
Am Sonntag, den 14.03.2010, 23:31 +0100 schrieb Kai Schaetzl:
 Marcus wrote on Sun, 14 Mar 2010 21:16:31 +0100:
 
  The messages differ in subject and body.
 
 Do they? Hm, I must have overlooked this in your first message. Oh, wait, 
 after reading it a second time I still can't see it. I think you must have 
 forgotten to mention it.
 If you want help from the mailing list post some complete messages to 
 pastebin.

Seems to be that other german speaking members of this list know what
sort of spams I'm talking about. I got some helpful rulesets from them
for this case. Thanks!

Kai, thank you for your constructive help and good night,
Marcus