Re: APR Tomcat...
Christopher Schultz wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Dale, On 7/19/2010 7:42 PM, Dale Ogilvie wrote: Reasons to use httpd being what? Here are a few ideas: 1. Load balancing 2. Use of mixed Java and non-Java webapps (PHP, Perl, etc.) 3. Use of multiple Tomcat instances behind a single web server If I thought about it, I could come up with a few more. 4. Imperative/beneficial use of one of the multiple Apache built-in or add-on modules which exist for Apache, and where comparable ready-made Tomcat valves, filters, applications do not (yet) exist or are not as mature. (ref : http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.2/mod/) 5. Situations where running java webapps under a servlet engine is not the main focus/purpose/interest of a website, but things like 2. above are. I'll enclose in that the situations where the main area of competence of the people developing or managing the website is not Java. To round this off, I'd say that the right tool for a job does not depend only on the intrinsic qualities of the tool itself. It also depends on many other local circumstances, of which the availability of people with the appropriate competences is probably the most important. From a relative outsider's point of view, I would compare Apache httpd and Tomcat as follows : To achieve anything other than relatively trivial with Tomcat, at some point you'll need to become very competent with Java. Being competent with Java is a lifetime occupation, not because of the language itself, but because achieving anything worthwhile with it requires learning about many, many class libraries and their API's. (Anyone challenging the above ?) In comparison Apache httpd has, built-in, many features that just require configuration, and already has many ready-to-use add-on modules which just require to be plugged-in and configured, without having to do any programming at all. This may suit sysadmins types better than developer types. In both cases, some knowledge of the HTTP protocol is a must, and a good knowledge of HTTP is a tremendous help. To achieve a certain goal, if you have a choice, choose whatever you are more comfortable with. Technically, I think that Christopher's earlier benchmarks showed that Tomcat can serve simple static content at least as well as Apache httpd. Using Apache httpd as a front-end to Tomcat introduces some overhead, but with a correct configuration this overhead will be insignificant in most real-world situations, compared to what can be achieved (in terms of unnecessary overhead) by bad coding in the applications themselves, whether they are running under Tomcat or under Apache. To connect Apache with Tomcat, you can use either mod_jk or mod_proxy_ajp (or just mod_proxy_http). Again, each one has its advantages and inconvenients, and you should mainly choose whichever you feel more comfortable with. The difference in performance between these solutions will likely be insignificant, compared to the mistakes in configuration and in the applications. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@tomcat.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@tomcat.apache.org
Apache Tomcat/5.5.20
Hi, 1. OS version Solaris 10 (intel) 2. Apache Tomcat/5.5.20 *I'm using my tomcat for OTA... * *for example: http://wap.aaa.com/elad* ** *I would my users to be able to also enter elad in uppercase ELAD ( http://wap.aaa.com/ELAD) and to be able to reach the page.* *is it possible to configure the tomcat to ignore case senstivity?* ** *Regards,* ** *Elad.*
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Re: Apache Tomcat/5.5.20
Elad Dotan wrote: Hi, 1. OS version Solaris 10 (intel) 2. Apache Tomcat/5.5.20 *I'm using my tomcat for OTA... * *for example: http://wap.aaa.com/elad* ** *I would my users to be able to also enter elad in uppercase ELAD ( http://wap.aaa.com/ELAD) and to be able to reach the page.* *is it possible to configure the tomcat to ignore case senstivity?* ** I believe yes, on an application-by-application base, see http://tomcat.apache.org/tomcat-5.5-doc/config/context.html#Common_Attributes caseSensitive. But read the remark in that box. What is not so clear to me, is whether this applies even for the upper application level (here elad/ELAD). In other words, if you put this in the Context for the elad application, does Tomcat then know to direct requests to ELAD to that same application ? Basically, I would say that it is not a good idea anyway, because it may still bypass some security features of the server, and may make things confusing anyway. It would probably be better to create a dummy webapps/ELAD application, which does nothing else but send a redirect response to the browser, to the real webapps/elad application. Maybe you can use this filter for that purpose : http://www.tuckey.org/urlrewrite/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@tomcat.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@tomcat.apache.org
RE: Apache Tomcat/5.5.20
From: Elad Dotan [mailto:elad.do...@gmail.com] Subject: Apache Tomcat/5.5.20 *is it possible to configure the tomcat to ignore case senstivity?* Not safely (at least not safely on all platforms). However, if you configure an appropriate filter in the ROOT webapp, you can have it forward or redirect the request to the properly cased URI. The appropriate filter can be found here: http://www.tuckey.org/urlrewrite/ - Chuck THIS COMMUNICATION MAY CONTAIN CONFIDENTIAL AND/OR OTHERWISE PROPRIETARY MATERIAL and is thus for use only by the intended recipient. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the e-mail and its attachments from all computers. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@tomcat.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@tomcat.apache.org
Re: Apache Tomcat/5.5.20
2010/7/20 André Warnier a...@ice-sa.com: Elad Dotan wrote: \ 1. OS version Solaris 10 (intel) 2. Apache Tomcat/5.5.20 I believe yes, on an application-by-application base, see http://tomcat.apache.org/tomcat-5.5-doc/config/context.html#Common_Attributes caseSensitive. But read the remark in that box. What is not so clear to me, is whether this applies even for the upper application level (here elad/ELAD). In other words, if you put this in the Context for the elad application, does Tomcat then know to direct requests to ELAD to that same application ? That caseSensitive attribute in Context is essentially useless. It does not make a web-application case-insensitive per se, unless your OS is case-insensitive. It just removes a security check that compares requested URL and canonical path of a file. In Tomcat 7 it is removed. Basically, I would say that it is not a good idea anyway, because it may still bypass some security features of the server, and may make things confusing anyway. It would probably be better to create a dummy webapps/ELAD application, which does nothing else but send a redirect response to the browser, to the real webapps/elad application. Maybe you can use this filter for that purpose : http://www.tuckey.org/urlrewrite/ Using a filter is the way to go. You can write it yourself, or use urlrewrite. Best regards, Konstantin Kolinko - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@tomcat.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@tomcat.apache.org
Re: setenv.sh and CATALINA_BASE
On Thursday 15 July 2010 20:26:14 Christopher Schultz wrote:
Rainer,
Hi, and sorry for the late reply.
[I changed the order of some parts of your mail to reply
On 7/12/2010 9:14 AM, Rainer Frey wrote:
I understand that, but would it be possible/good/not causing problems to
change this to do CATALINA_BASE=$CATALINA_HOME first, so a setenv.sh can
rely on CATALINA_BASE being set?
I think I understand the source of the confusion, here:
1. you want CATALINA_BASE to be set before CATALINA_HOME/bin/setenv.sh
is invoked
yes.
2. CATALINA_BASE must be set to something other than CATALINA_BASE
in order for CATALINA_BASE/bin/setenv.sh to be invoked /at all/
Detecting the right setenv.sh works fine, so I don't care about that.
3. case here is that CATALINA_HOME/bin/setenv.sh is being used,
but you want to use CATALINA_BASE/[something] in your generic scripts
Exactly.
if [ -n ${CATALINA_BASE} ] ; then
THE_BASE_DIR=${CATALINA_BASE}
else
THE_BASE_DIR=${CATALINA_HOME}
fi
[...]
CONF_DIR=${THE_BASE_DIR}/conf
Thanks for the hint, I'm doing exactly that now.
I'm not sure a patch is necessary, since the script has all the
information it needs. Perhaps your script will have to be a bit more
verbose (for instance, by explicitly testing for CATALINA_BASE), but it
is certainly not prohibited from doing it's own work.
That's absolutely right. A patch certainly is not necessary. My thought behind
the question was just: would it be better to solve this once for everybody by
changing catalina.sh, instead of let everybody handle that in their own
script?
if a user is going to use CATALINA_BASE, it
must be set before any scripts are called, otherwise CATALINA_BASE
doesn't get used at all (and CATALINA_HOME is the appropriate location
of whatever configuration files you want to use).
There will be cases where CATALINA_BASE is not set at all, and therefore
essentially defaults to CATALINA_HOME.
Well, actually, from a few lines down in catalina.sh, CATALINA_BASE *is*
always set (to the value of CATALINA_HOME if not set to anything else). The
rest of the script *does* use CATALINA_BASE unconditionally, and it is used to
set the catalina.base system property which *is* always used by Tomcat
internally.
It's probably a good thing for setenv.sh to be able to determine whether
CATALINA_BASE is explicitly set
I did not think I'd ever need this, that's why I asked for other opinions. In
that case my proposed change is undesirable.
Does your setenv.sh script expect to use a default file
(CATALINA_HOME/conf/whatever.jmx) and allow it to be overridden in
CATALINA_BASE/conf/whatever.jmx?
No, though it might be a good idea after all. My original plan was to use one
separate file per instance, no matter whether that instance is standalone or
part of a multi-instance setup.
If so, then your script will have to
test both locations, anyway, because you'll have to check to see if the
(optional) override file exists in CATALINA_BASE and then check for it
again under CATALINA_HOME.
Having a blank CATALINA_BASE seems to be helpful in this situation.
Well, then there *is* reason to leave it as is. That is a helpful answer to my
question.
Is there a situation that you think doesn't work given the current
script behavior?
No, and I didn't want to imply that. But in general, one can change something
that already works to make it work a little bit better :-)
Thanks for your time.
Rainer
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Re: using Apache as a front end for Tomcat
On your blog http://myunster.com/blog/10.html at step number 8 you mentioned to create worker.properties there a variable is workers.tomcat_home and workers.java_home if the apache machine and tomcat machine are physically different then how do you define these variables . Also is there any change in this situation in this setup of file in this case.
Re: deploying tomcat not on localhost
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Re: Tomcat 5.5.23 server startup issue
Hi Pid, Thanks for your reply, It seems that the problem is with some of the jars those which are I added from my older environment(tomcat 5.0.18). So I have freshly added jars one bye one tested, now I am not facing this issue. Regards, Venkat Pid wrote: On 19/07/2010 17:23, Venkat Tanga wrote: *Hi All, I am facing the below mentioned issues in the server startup. hence the server is not starting up. Can any one plz help me how to resolve these issues. * Jul 19, 2010 9:41:30 PM org.apache.catalina.startup.HostConfig deployDescriptor SEVERE: Error deploying configuration descriptor host-manager.xml java.lang.NoSuchMethodError: org.apache.naming.NamingContextBindingsEnumeration.init(Ljava/util/Iterator;Ljavax/naming/Context;)V at org.apache.naming.resources.FileDirContext.listBindings(FileDirContext.java:338) at org.apache.naming.resources.ProxyDirContext.listBindings(ProxyDirContext.java:516) at org.apache.catalina.util.ExtensionValidator.validateApplication(ExtensionValidator.java:175) at org.apache.catalina.core.StandardContext.start(StandardContext.java:4064) at org.apache.catalina.core.ContainerBase.addChildInternal(ContainerBase.java:760) at org.apache.catalina.core.ContainerBase.addChild(ContainerBase.java:740) at org.apache.catalina.core.StandardHost.addChild(StandardHost.java:544) at org.apache.catalina.startup.HostConfig.deployDescriptor(HostConfig.java:626) at org.apache.catalina.startup.HostConfig.deployDescriptors(HostConfig.java:553) at org.apache.catalina.startup.HostConfig.deployApps(HostConfig.java:488) at org.apache.catalina.startup.HostConfig.start(HostConfig.java:1138) at org.apache.catalina.startup.HostConfig.lifecycleEvent(HostConfig.java:311) at org.apache.catalina.util.LifecycleSupport.fireLifecycleEvent(LifecycleSupport.java:120) at org.apache.catalina.core.ContainerBase.start(ContainerBase.java:1022) at org.apache.catalina.core.StandardHost.start(StandardHost.java:736) at org.apache.catalina.core.ContainerBase.start(ContainerBase.java:1014) at org.apache.catalina.core.StandardEngine.start(StandardEngine.java:443) at org.apache.catalina.core.StandardService.start(StandardService.java:448) at org.apache.catalina.core.StandardServer.start(StandardServer.java:700) at org.apache.catalina.startup.Catalina.start(Catalina.java:552) at sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke0(Native Method) at sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(Unknown Source) at sun.reflect.DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(Unknown Source) at java.lang.reflect.Method.invoke(Unknown Source) at org.apache.catalina.startup.Bootstrap.start(Bootstrap.java:295) at org.apache.catalina.startup.Bootstrap.main(Bootstrap.java:433) Jul 19, 2010 9:41:30 PM org.apache.catalina.startup.HostConfig deployDescriptor SEVERE: Error deploying configuration descriptor manager.xml java.lang.NoSuchMethodError: org.apache.naming.NamingContextBindingsEnumeration.init(Ljava/util/Iterator;Ljavax/naming/Context;)V at org.apache.naming.resources.FileDirContext.listBindings(FileDirContext.java:338) at org.apache.naming.resources.ProxyDirContext.listBindings(ProxyDirContext.java:516) at org.apache.catalina.util.ExtensionValidator.validateApplication(ExtensionValidator.java:175) at org.apache.catalina.core.StandardContext.start(StandardContext.java:4064) at org.apache.catalina.core.ContainerBase.addChildInternal(ContainerBase.java:760) at org.apache.catalina.core.ContainerBase.addChild(ContainerBase.java:740) at org.apache.catalina.core.StandardHost.addChild(StandardHost.java:544) at org.apache.catalina.startup.HostConfig.deployDescriptor(HostConfig.java:626) at org.apache.catalina.startup.HostConfig.deployDescriptors(HostConfig.java:553) at org.apache.catalina.startup.HostConfig.deployApps(HostConfig.java:488) at org.apache.catalina.startup.HostConfig.start(HostConfig.java:1138) at org.apache.catalina.startup.HostConfig.lifecycleEvent(HostConfig.java:311) at org.apache.catalina.util.LifecycleSupport.fireLifecycleEvent(LifecycleSupport.java:120) at org.apache.catalina.core.ContainerBase.start(ContainerBase.java:1022) at org.apache.catalina.core.StandardHost.start(StandardHost.java:736) at org.apache.catalina.core.ContainerBase.start(ContainerBase.java:1014) at org.apache.catalina.core.StandardEngine.start(StandardEngine.java:443) at org.apache.catalina.core.StandardService.start(StandardService.java:448) at org.apache.catalina.core.StandardServer.start(StandardServer.java:700) at org.apache.catalina.startup.Catalina.start(Catalina.java:552) at sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke0(Native Method) at sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(Unknown Source) at sun.reflect.DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(Unknown Source) at java.lang.reflect.Method.invoke(Unknown Source) at
Re: using Apache as a front end for Tomcat
James Godrej wrote: On your blog http://myunster.com/blog/10.html at step number 8 you mentioned to create worker.properties there a variable is workers.tomcat_home and workers.java_home I think that both of these variables/properties have been obsolete for a long time, and are not used at all by mod_jk. A long time meaning at least 4-5 years. Examples of workers.properties which have them still, are most probably out of date. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@tomcat.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@tomcat.apache.org
Re: How to retrieve persisted session
Hi Where do i set this max age for session? i dont see any thing in document http://tomcat.apache.org/tomcat-6.0-doc/config/manager.html Ashish On Mon, Jul 19, 2010 at 6:03 PM, Christopher Schultz ch...@christopherschultz.net wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Ashish, On 7/19/2010 4:48 PM, Ashish Kulkarni wrote: Is there a way i can save this session cookie, so i can access it later? is it possible Set the maxAge of the session to something other than -1 (the default, which means this cookie will die when the browser shuts down). How does yahoo or gmail keep me signed on for 2-3 days See above. - -chris -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkxEy5YACgkQ9CaO5/Lv0PAZhACfTxY8EWC5c1yhNbwA64AgLPRH 9NQAoKxsfFPaqiX/2WHLpZkcg6VAjAAw =4ABC -END PGP SIGNATURE- - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@tomcat.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@tomcat.apache.org -- Ashish www.ayurwellness.com www.mysoftwareneeds.com
Re: How is Apache Documentation organized
On 20/07/2010 12:41, James Godrej wrote: I am curious to know how is Apache documentation organized. Meaning if some one comes with complete zero experience of web hosting where should they start so that they can be thorough with Apache. Which pages they should access. Start at http://www.apache.org/ and let us know when you've finished. I read many doc pages at some places examples are given but not at all places.Or did I miss some thing? Could you give an example? What I mean to say different directives and modules in sample setups how are they applied are there some sample configurations or it is assumed that it is obvious. If you mean Apache HTTPD rather than Apache Tomcat, then you'll want: http://www.apache.org/ p signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: How to retrieve persisted session
On 20/07/2010 14:58, Ashish Kulkarni wrote: Hi Where do i set this max age for session? i dont see any thing in document http://tomcat.apache.org/tomcat-6.0-doc/config/manager.html Have you manually set the session expiry time or are you using the default? p Ashish On Mon, Jul 19, 2010 at 6:03 PM, Christopher Schultz ch...@christopherschultz.net wrote: Ashish, On 7/19/2010 4:48 PM, Ashish Kulkarni wrote: Is there a way i can save this session cookie, so i can access it later? is it possible Set the maxAge of the session to something other than -1 (the default, which means this cookie will die when the browser shuts down). How does yahoo or gmail keep me signed on for 2-3 days See above. -chris - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@tomcat.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@tomcat.apache.org signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: How is Apache Documentation organized
2010/7/20 Pid p...@pidster.com: If you mean Apache HTTPD rather than Apache Tomcat, then you'll want: http://www.apache.org/ Do you mean: http://httpd.apache.org/ Antonio - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@tomcat.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@tomcat.apache.org
Re: How to retrieve persisted session
Hi I am using the default, how do i set session expiry time, i can think of only 1 place that is in web.xml session-config session-timeout-1/session-timeout /session-config Is there any other way On Tue, Jul 20, 2010 at 10:25 AM, Pid p...@pidster.com wrote: On 20/07/2010 14:58, Ashish Kulkarni wrote: Hi Where do i set this max age for session? i dont see any thing in document http://tomcat.apache.org/tomcat-6.0-doc/config/manager.html Have you manually set the session expiry time or are you using the default? p Ashish On Mon, Jul 19, 2010 at 6:03 PM, Christopher Schultz ch...@christopherschultz.net wrote: Ashish, On 7/19/2010 4:48 PM, Ashish Kulkarni wrote: Is there a way i can save this session cookie, so i can access it later? is it possible Set the maxAge of the session to something other than -1 (the default, which means this cookie will die when the browser shuts down). How does yahoo or gmail keep me signed on for 2-3 days See above. -chris - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@tomcat.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@tomcat.apache.org -- Ashish www.ayurwellness.com www.mysoftwareneeds.com
Re: using Apache as a front end for Tomcat
On 20.07.2010 15:30, André Warnier wrote: James Godrej wrote: On your blog http://myunster.com/blog/10.html at step number 8 you mentioned to create worker.properties there a variable is workers.tomcat_home and workers.java_home I think that both of these variables/properties have been obsolete for a long time, and are not used at all by mod_jk. A long time meaning at least 4-5 years. Examples of workers.properties which have them still, are most probably out of date. Grab yourself the official source download of mod_jk 1.2.30. It contains a useful and well-commented example workers.properties. Older ones do not contain a good example config. Regards, Rainer - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@tomcat.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@tomcat.apache.org
Re: How is Apache Documentation organized
Antonio Petrelli wrote: 2010/7/20 Pid p...@pidster.com: If you mean Apache HTTPD rather than Apache Tomcat, then you'll want: http://www.apache.org/ Do you mean: http://httpd.apache.org/ No, I believe he really meant http://www.apache.org/ Considering the question of the OP, it seemed to be a very generic question, not particularly specific to the httpd server or Tomcat. Considering the premise if some one comes with complete zero experience of web hosting.., then I would add : start with the HTTP RFC (Google for http rfc 2616). Then go to www.apache.org, and maybe start with httpd. Then if you want to really learn about how Apache does things internally (as opposed to just its configuration), my suggestion would be here : http://perl.apache.org/docs/2.0/user/handlers/http.html#HTTP_Request_Cycle_Phases (This is part of the mod_perl documentation, but it is at the same time the best introduction to the Apache httpd internals which I know of). Then if Tomcat is your main point of interest, grab yourself a copy of the Java Servlet Specification. It is dense, but fairly readable, and a must before you really start dabbling with Tomcat. Then go to tomcat.apache.org and read the documentation. At the end of that, you'll already know more than most people on this forum. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@tomcat.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@tomcat.apache.org
Re: APR Tomcat...
On 19/07/2010 22:21, Tony Anecito wrote: Hi Pid First off I get a little red x in the upper left hand corner of the web page. Excellent technical description of the problem. Is it the response status 404 or a 500, I wonder? Yep I agree maybe an upgrade to the latest Tomcat and APR might accomplish fixing the problem but silly me I like to understand an issue before I upgrade. I didn't say it would, but silly me I like to advise people to stay current, to gain the benefit of bug and security fixes. APR==httpd at least that is what the Apache Web site says and the acronym I put up on the title page is about. The Apache Web server group disavow any knowledge of APR since they say the Tomcat Group developed to to replace Apache Web Server. It's been explained elsewhere in the thread that this is incorrect, but I'm curious to know where you read that the HTTPD 'group' disavowed APR? What little info I could find seems to indicate APR uses the ROOT directory under Webapps for html based apps. I will probably go back to Apache Web server as a separate tier. I was trying to get better performance using APR + Tomcat and saw some but not enough to justify the advantages of a seperate tier. I can't seem to see whether your original problem has actually been resolved or not, did you manage to determine what was happening or not? p Best Regards, -Tony - Original Message From: Pid p...@pidster.com To: Tomcat Users List users@tomcat.apache.org Sent: Mon, July 19, 2010 3:05:41 PM Subject: Re: APR Tomcat... On 19/07/2010 19:44, Tony Anecito wrote: Hi All, I have been having odd issues with APR Tomcat (6.0.20) since I set it up a while ago. I am seeing: Time for an upgrade. 1. Sometimes on the first try to get images from a page where the images are assigned a sub domain via a host tag I get a red x. Hitting refresh seems to retrieve the images. The images are in a subfolder off of the ROOT folder of tomcat. Can you reproduce the problem? What does the client actually see? You can use a browser tool to find out, e.g. Firebug in Firefox. Fiddler, ieHttpHeaders in IE, the built-in developer tools in Safari/Chrome. What does the server actually send? You didn't state your OS (tsk) but there are tools available for most OS which will allow you to monitor network traffic at the server. (e.g. Wireshark). 2. I get a file not found off of another folder where the file is a jnlp file. So is there any type of directory tag (allow, deny ect) I should be using for the sub folders off or ROOT? When I used Apache Web server I set those up but then I was not using a Host tag either. But for APR I did not set up any type directory tags. No there isn't. Tomcat != Apache HTTPD. Security permissions are set in the ROOT/WEB-INF/web.xml, as per the Servlet Spec. p If I need the directory tags where would I put them? Thanks, -Tony - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@tomcat.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@tomcat.apache.org signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: Unable to get Tomcat 7 to work in Eclipse
On 19/07/2010 22:37, Austin Shelton wrote: The resource for my web page servlet can't be located. This was not the case with Tomcat 6. Nobody complained once I started getting a good Tomcat launch. So it works if Tomcat 7 works, or it doesn't - I'm not clear on what that means. There are no logs in the Tomcat home. Like I said, they are probably not there. Eclipse uses it's own, I don't know where that is in your case, you'll have to work it out. p On Mon, Jul 19, 2010 at 1:56 PM, Pid p...@pidster.com mailto:p...@pidster.com wrote: On 19/07/2010 20:13, Austin Shelton wrote: Hi, I am unable to get Tomcat 7.0.0 to work correctly with Eclipse Helios. Tomcat 6 was working just fine; the problem occurred when I upgraded to Tomcat 7.0. It complained about Resource Not found. I now have it working to the extent that no errors or warning show up in the console. But I do not get my page, without errors, to display. Any tips on solving this problem? Thanks Which resource isn't found? What complained, your browser, Eclipse, or Tomcat? What do the Tomcat logs say? (Note: they may be in a different location than a normal Tomcat installation) p signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: APR Tomcat...
The red x is the standard way in an html page to indicate something is wrong but no 404 or other status code is displayed otherwise I would have mentioned it. Simple google indicated many reasons why it might occur. As I mentioned in another email I plan to switch back to Apache Web Server and there recently has been very good explantions on this email group why to do so. As I mentioned I used APR for performance which it did a good job for me but other considerations come into play at this point so no need to drag up old emails from the Apache group regarding APR. Regards, -Tony - Original Message From: Pid p...@pidster.com To: Tomcat Users List users@tomcat.apache.org Sent: Tue, July 20, 2010 10:11:39 AM Subject: Re: APR Tomcat... On 19/07/2010 22:21, Tony Anecito wrote: Hi Pid First off I get a little red x in the upper left hand corner of the web page. Excellent technical description of the problem. Is it the response status 404 or a 500, I wonder? Yep I agree maybe an upgrade to the latest Tomcat and APR might accomplish fixing the problem but silly me I like to understand an issue before I upgrade. I didn't say it would, but silly me I like to advise people to stay current, to gain the benefit of bug and security fixes. APR==httpd at least that is what the Apache Web site says and the acronym I put up on the title page is about. The Apache Web server group disavow any knowledge of APR since they say the Tomcat Group developed to to replace Apache Web Server. It's been explained elsewhere in the thread that this is incorrect, but I'm curious to know where you read that the HTTPD 'group' disavowed APR? What little info I could find seems to indicate APR uses the ROOT directory under Webapps for html based apps. I will probably go back to Apache Web server as a separate tier. I was trying to get better performance using APR + Tomcat and saw some but not enough to justify the advantages of a seperate tier. I can't seem to see whether your original problem has actually been resolved or not, did you manage to determine what was happening or not? p Best Regards, -Tony - Original Message From: Pid p...@pidster.com To: Tomcat Users List users@tomcat.apache.org Sent: Mon, July 19, 2010 3:05:41 PM Subject: Re: APR Tomcat... On 19/07/2010 19:44, Tony Anecito wrote: Hi All, I have been having odd issues with APR Tomcat (6.0.20) since I set it up a while ago. I am seeing: Time for an upgrade. 1. Sometimes on the first try to get images from a page where the images are assigned a sub domain via a host tag I get a red x. Hitting refresh seems to retrieve the images. The images are in a subfolder off of the ROOT folder of tomcat. Can you reproduce the problem? What does the client actually see? You can use a browser tool to find out, e.g. Firebug in Firefox. Fiddler, ieHttpHeaders in IE, the built-in developer tools in Safari/Chrome. What does the server actually send? You didn't state your OS (tsk) but there are tools available for most OS which will allow you to monitor network traffic at the server. (e.g. Wireshark). 2. I get a file not found off of another folder where the file is a jnlp file. So is there any type of directory tag (allow, deny ect) I should be using for the sub folders off or ROOT? When I used Apache Web server I set those up but then I was not using a Host tag either. But for APR I did not set up any type directory tags. No there isn't. Tomcat != Apache HTTPD. Security permissions are set in the ROOT/WEB-INF/web.xml, as per the Servlet Spec. p If I need the directory tags where would I put them? Thanks, -Tony - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@tomcat.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@tomcat.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@tomcat.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@tomcat.apache.org
Re: APR Tomcat...
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Chuck, On 7/19/2010 11:50 PM, Caldarale, Charles R wrote: From: Christopher Schultz [mailto:ch...@christopherschultz.net] Subject: Re: APR Tomcat... My tests show that use of sendFile is dramatically faster than without. Was that vs BIO or NIO? As I recall, there is no sendFile capability in BIO, so both NIO and APR should beat that. BIO = JIO, right? Too many TLAs. The NIO and APR connectors support sendFile, but the blocking, vanilla Java connector does not. sendFile, in both the NIO and APR connectors, gives a significant performance improvement. So, you're right, it's not APR's magic, but the magic of sendFile in either case. - -chris -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkxF4mYACgkQ9CaO5/Lv0PDnAQCggQqYH8rZ4MgWs96fAaoI0KXW NPsAoLkQepKjXBNJ4RdzYnGjt5m8Eh/j =rEM7 -END PGP SIGNATURE- - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@tomcat.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@tomcat.apache.org
Re: APR Tomcat...
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Tony, On 7/20/2010 12:35 AM, Tony Anecito wrote: Interesting. I saw that when a static file was around 21K or below a dramatic improvement in recorded time in the log for APR. I have not tried with regular Apache Web Server to see what I get. I should get off my ass and publish my benchmarking results. These Tomcat knuckleheads keep releasing new versions, and I feel like I should repeat my tests with the latest version. :( Soon. Maybe. - -chris -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkxF4qQACgkQ9CaO5/Lv0PCaEgCfePU71YPyDFCPi8dhXyQa+WWZ haIAn3x04yVH94WKjRyRvaAlFis3C+QV =E0HG -END PGP SIGNATURE- - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@tomcat.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@tomcat.apache.org
Re: ]OT] APR Tomcat...
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 André, Finally off-topic. On 7/20/2010 4:18 AM, André Warnier wrote: To achieve anything other than relatively trivial with Tomcat, at some point you'll need to become very competent with Java. Not necessarily. You might have to become familiar with things like fully-qualified class names and a few specific tools necessary for proper configuration (like cluster implementations, etc.), but Tomcat administration need not carry with it any deep programming knowledge. It's always good to know a good Java dev, though, in case you get in over your head. Being competent with Java is a lifetime occupation, not because of the language itself, but because achieving anything worthwhile with it requires learning about many, many class libraries and their API's. (Anyone challenging the above ?) Mmmm... I wouldn't say that's unique to Java. You're a Perl fanboy, and Perl is ... an art in and of itself. In comparison Apache httpd has, built-in, many features that just require configuration, and already has many ready-to-use add-on modules which just require to be plugged-in and configured, without having to do any programming at all. Note that using Tomcat as a web server is nearly as trivial to set up as Apache httpd: anything that you'd make into a DocumentRoot is a webapp rooted in a single directory. Anything you'd Alias onto the filesystem must be the same. In both cases, some knowledge of the HTTP protocol is a must, and a good knowledge of HTTP is a tremendous help. +1 You can't administer a server for a system you don't understand. You don't need to know exactly how a router works, but you need to know what it's accomplishing. Technically, I think that Christopher's earlier benchmarks showed that Tomcat can serve simple static content at least as well as Apache httpd. Using Apache httpd as a front-end to Tomcat introduces some overhead, but with a correct configuration this overhead will be insignificant in most real-world situations, compared to what can be achieved (in terms of unnecessary overhead) by bad coding in the applications themselves, whether they are running under Tomcat or under Apache. +1 If Tomcat and httpd are on the same machine, the overhead is likely to be minimal (I haven't httpd-Tomcat performance) due to the tricks most TCP/IP stacks play with localhost traffic to make it super fast. Your webapp usually sucks way more than the server ;) - -chris -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkxF5E4ACgkQ9CaO5/Lv0PDccQCgsUmYf3g1pKIV7iqzHg8tyv0a i60Ani+PtwmaFNekAbkdXGvrfEJ5500W =EluQ -END PGP SIGNATURE- - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@tomcat.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@tomcat.apache.org
Re: How to retrieve persisted session
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Ashish, On 7/20/2010 9:58 AM, Ashish Kulkarni wrote: Where do i set this max age for session? i dont see any thing in document http://tomcat.apache.org/tomcat-6.0-doc/config/manager.html You will have to write code to do this yourself: Tomcat won't do it for you. Pid's question about setting the max inactive interval isn't germane, because you want the JSESSIONID cookie to remain active across a browser restart, rather than having the server hold on to the session longer than it is. Setting session-timeout in web.xml (which is the same as setting maxInactiveInterval on the Manager, though it's more standard) will not affect the cookie lifetime on the client. - -chris -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkxGBYoACgkQ9CaO5/Lv0PCgBQCcC8/ysjc/bgmZzYXa3S6Ku0ji qYcAn3Wf04f2J8jKCQIrTbvnqtXewGsZ =7yJE -END PGP SIGNATURE- - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@tomcat.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@tomcat.apache.org
Re: APR Tomcat...
Do not worry my friends did not believe me till I sent the before/after logs even then they argued about physics and the speed of light :-) Where is Einstein when you need him? -Tony - Original Message From: Christopher Schultz ch...@christopherschultz.net To: Tomcat Users List users@tomcat.apache.org Sent: Tue, July 20, 2010 11:53:40 AM Subject: Re: APR Tomcat... -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Tony, On 7/20/2010 12:35 AM, Tony Anecito wrote: Interesting. I saw that when a static file was around 21K or below a dramatic improvement in recorded time in the log for APR. I have not tried with regular Apache Web Server to see what I get. I should get off my ass and publish my benchmarking results. These Tomcat knuckleheads keep releasing new versions, and I feel like I should repeat my tests with the latest version. :( Soon. Maybe. - -chris -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkxF4qQACgkQ9CaO5/Lv0PCaEgCfePU71YPyDFCPi8dhXyQa+WWZ haIAn3x04yVH94WKjRyRvaAlFis3C+QV =E0HG -END PGP SIGNATURE- - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@tomcat.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@tomcat.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@tomcat.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@tomcat.apache.org
Re: Unable to get Tomcat 7 to work in Eclipse
Bizarre. I will keep looking for logs that might tell me something. I'll keep everyone posted on my efforts, feeble though they may be :-) On Tue, Jul 20, 2010 at 9:14 AM, Pid p...@pidster.com wrote: On 19/07/2010 22:37, Austin Shelton wrote: The resource for my web page servlet can't be located. This was not the case with Tomcat 6. Nobody complained once I started getting a good Tomcat launch. So it works if Tomcat 7 works, or it doesn't - I'm not clear on what that means. There are no logs in the Tomcat home. Like I said, they are probably not there. Eclipse uses it's own, I don't know where that is in your case, you'll have to work it out. p On Mon, Jul 19, 2010 at 1:56 PM, Pid p...@pidster.com mailto:p...@pidster.com wrote: On 19/07/2010 20:13, Austin Shelton wrote: Hi, I am unable to get Tomcat 7.0.0 to work correctly with Eclipse Helios. Tomcat 6 was working just fine; the problem occurred when I upgraded to Tomcat 7.0. It complained about Resource Not found. I now have it working to the extent that no errors or warning show up in the console. But I do not get my page, without errors, to display. Any tips on solving this problem? Thanks Which resource isn't found? What complained, your browser, Eclipse, or Tomcat? What do the Tomcat logs say? (Note: they may be in a different location than a normal Tomcat installation) p
Re: Unable to get Tomcat 7 to work in Eclipse
Well. A message showed up in my Eclipse console that I had overlooked in my
previous launches:
WARNING: [SetPropertiesRule]{Server/Service/Engine/Host/Context} Setting
property 'source' to 'org.eclipse.jst.jee.server:HelloWorldServlet' did not
find a matching property.
(The name of my application is HelloWorldServlet)
Does anyone have an idea about what this means?
On Tue, Jul 20, 2010 at 4:32 PM, Austin Shelton ashelt...@gmail.com wrote:
Bizarre. I will keep looking for logs that might tell me something. I'll
keep everyone posted on my efforts, feeble though they may be :-)
On Tue, Jul 20, 2010 at 9:14 AM, Pid p...@pidster.com wrote:
On 19/07/2010 22:37, Austin Shelton wrote:
The resource for my web page servlet can't be located. This was not the
case with Tomcat 6.
Nobody complained once I started getting a good Tomcat launch.
So it works if Tomcat 7 works, or it doesn't - I'm not clear on what
that means.
There are no logs in the Tomcat home.
Like I said, they are probably not there. Eclipse uses it's own, I
don't know where that is in your case, you'll have to work it out.
p
On Mon, Jul 19, 2010 at 1:56 PM, Pid p...@pidster.com
mailto:p...@pidster.com wrote:
On 19/07/2010 20:13, Austin Shelton wrote:
Hi,
I am unable to get Tomcat 7.0.0 to work correctly with Eclipse
Helios.
Tomcat 6 was working just fine; the problem occurred when I
upgraded to
Tomcat 7.0. It complained about Resource Not found. I now have it
working
to the extent that no errors or warning show up in the console.
But I do not
get my page, without errors, to display. Any tips on solving this
problem?
Thanks
Which resource isn't found?
What complained, your browser, Eclipse, or Tomcat?
What do the Tomcat logs say? (Note: they may be in a different
location
than a normal Tomcat installation)
p
Re: Self-Contained Web Applications
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Chuck, (I mist have missed these replies... I'm resurrecting this thread). On 6/25/2010 5:44 PM, Caldarale, Charles R wrote: From: Jon Brisbin [mailto:jon.bris...@npcinternational.com] Subject: Re: Self-Contained Web Applications Wouldn't it make sense to scope it to the Context, since you'd be using the webapp's classloader? Correct. Note that the desired effect should be achievable by including commons-dbcp in its WEB-INF/lib, and coding the application to use that. Completely self-contained, and not dependent on any container behavior or capabilities. Well, having to include commons-dbcp is a bit of an implementation detail, here. I should be able to include only my own JDBC driver and have Tomcat figure out that commons-dbcp should be available elsewhere (say, in the lib directory). That should work even if the WebappClassLoader is being used to initialize the DataSource, since it will call up the ClassLoader chain to find classes not available locally. - -chris -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkxGRyIACgkQ9CaO5/Lv0PD4bwCgkw/zD0zmMJbjROvneYT0ZCFw whcAoMBZ8RL2iN2SdFoUqy+3q5LtTIPf =p0vo -END PGP SIGNATURE- - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@tomcat.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@tomcat.apache.org
Re: Self-Contained Web Applications
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Chuck, On 6/25/2010 6:01 PM, Caldarale, Charles R wrote: From: Pid [mailto:p...@pidster.com] Subject: Re: Self-Contained Web Applications We can define a DataSource inside a Context already, hook up a locally configured Realm, and it'll use a driver from the web app ClassLoader, which makes the app completely self contained. I don't understand what Chris is getting at. :s What I interpreted his posting to mean was he wanted container-managed connection pooling (and all other JNDI-based resource usage) done without placing any classes in any global directory space. Exactly. In other words, the Tomcat classes would use the webapp's classloader first before looking in any global locations for necessary driver libraries. This might require having the webapp classloader get its own copies of the Tomcat classes, but it sounds doable with a bit of re-plumbing. Today, the install process for a webapp that needs MySQL connections is: 1a. Copy mysql-connector-j.x.y.z.jar into CATALINA_BASE/lib 1b. Make sure you don't have mysql-connector-j.x.y.z.jar in WEB-INF/lib 2. Configure DataSource in META-INF/context.xml 3. Use JNDI to locate and use the DataSource I'm trying to replace step #1 with: 1. Just but mysql-connector-j.x.y.z.jar into WEB-INF/lib This would alleviate several irritating issues: 1. People always do what I want to do anyway, and want to know why they get that weird Cannot load JDBC driver 'null' message 2. The webapp is not self-contained if it requires MySQL and yet does not include the MySQL JDBC driver library 3. All webapps (that want to use container-provided DataSource services) are forced to use the same version of the MySQL driver 4. The DataSource currently outlives the Context, which is kind of silly if the context itself defines the DataSource Is there an architectural reason why Tomcat has historically done JNDI DataSources in this way? Is it because of the historical use of global resources defined in server.xml? - -chris -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkxGSMQACgkQ9CaO5/Lv0PCXaQCgsI6mGrHyY+UmH/q7PUO7T4lR c9sAoJTlaBZIfeC4k1AYDb0hO3dx3ZyF =XPWU -END PGP SIGNATURE- - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@tomcat.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@tomcat.apache.org
java.lang.NoSuchMethodException: org.apache.catalina.deploy.WebXml addServlet
I cleaned the Tomcat server in Eclipse and now I get the following exception: java.lang.NoSuchMethodException: org.apache.catalina.deploy.WebXml addServlet I have all of the Tomcat libraries in my build path and the lib directories of the WEB/INF/lib directory. Any ideas?
RE: APR Tomcat...
From: Christopher Schultz [mailto:ch...@christopherschultz.net] Subject: Re: APR Tomcat... Was that vs BIO or NIO? As I recall, there is no sendFile capability in BIO, so both NIO and APR should beat that. BIO = JIO, right? Too many TLAs. The Tomcat doc refers to the original Connector implementation as BIO, not JIO. Using JIO is ambiguous, since both BIO and JIO are pure Java. - Chuck THIS COMMUNICATION MAY CONTAIN CONFIDENTIAL AND/OR OTHERWISE PROPRIETARY MATERIAL and is thus for use only by the intended recipient. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the e-mail and its attachments from all computers.
RE: Self-Contained Web Applications
From: Christopher Schultz [mailto:ch...@christopherschultz.net] Subject: Re: Self-Contained Web Applications Well, having to include commons-dbcp is a bit of an implementation detail, here. I should be able to include only my own JDBC driver and have Tomcat figure out that commons-dbcp should be available elsewhere (say, in the lib directory). But now you're asking commons-dbcp classes (loaded by the common classloader) to look _downwards_ in the classloader hierarchy to find the JDBC driver they're using for the connections. I don't think that's going to happen - ever. - Chuck THIS COMMUNICATION MAY CONTAIN CONFIDENTIAL AND/OR OTHERWISE PROPRIETARY MATERIAL and is thus for use only by the intended recipient. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the e-mail and its attachments from all computers.
RE: Self-Contained Web Applications
From: Christopher Schultz [mailto:ch...@christopherschultz.net] Subject: Re: Self-Contained Web Applications 1. Just but mysql-connector-j.x.y.z.jar into WEB-INF/lib But still use container-provided connection pooling when the container classes are loaded by the common classloader. This is what I was referring to when I said the webapp classloader would have to get its own copies of Tomcat classes. Might be doable by extending the classpath of the webapp classloader to include some directory containing jars/classes that would be available to each webapp (eg, commons-dbcp or tomcat-dbcp) but still loaded by each webapp rather than some shared classloader. Doesn't sound like too much work, but does introduce potential versioning complications. - Chuck THIS COMMUNICATION MAY CONTAIN CONFIDENTIAL AND/OR OTHERWISE PROPRIETARY MATERIAL and is thus for use only by the intended recipient. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the e-mail and its attachments from all computers.
Re: Unable to get Tomcat 7 to work in Eclipse
2010/7/21 Austin Shelton ashelt...@gmail.com:
Bizarre. I will keep looking for logs that might tell me something. I'll
keep everyone posted on my efforts, feeble though they may be :-)
Maybe you do not have a logging.properties file.
There should be -Djava.util.logging.manager and
-Djava.util.logging.config.file being set to appropriate values in
the launch configuration for Tomcat for the logging to work properly.
By the way,
http://wiki.eclipse.org/WTP_Tomcat_FAQ
WARNING: [SetPropertiesRule]{Server/Service/Engine/Host/Context} Setting
property 'source' to 'org.eclipse.jst.jee.server:HelloWorldServlet' did not
find a matching property.
It is just a warning. That extra attribute (that was set by Eclipse
for whatever reason) is ignored.
Best regards,
Konstantin Kolinko
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