RE: [OT] Release Management and Deployment

2007-11-16 Thread Martin Gainty

2 options-Tried and true Ant which is rock solid reliable, easily configurable 
and a user-friendly user-list where a resource will respond in 24 hoursmore 
information available athttp://ant.apache.org/Maven..complex environment with 
heavy reliance on repositories and plugins..If any attribute is incorrect such 
as groupId/artifactId/versionor plugin repositories are inaccessible or you 
have a file system which doesnt support the default repository of .m2 then 
nothing works whats more there is no user-list (at least from what I've seen 
thus far) available..On the plus side maven's ability to configure internet 
site repositories is probably maven's most powerful 
featurehttp://maven.apache.org/
HTH/
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Re: [OT] Release Management and Deployment

2007-11-16 Thread Dirk Weigenand
Hi,

have a look at AntHill (http://www.urbancode.com) and CruiseControl 
(http://cruisecontrol.sourceforge.net/).

regards

   Dirk

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 Von: Andrew Miehs [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 On 16/11/2007, at 4:09 PM, Martin Gainty wrote:
 
  2 options-Tried and true Ant which is rock solid reliable, easily  
  configurable and a user-friendly user-list where a resource will  
  respond in 24 hoursmore information available
 athttp://ant.apache.org/Maven..complex 
   environment with heavy reliance on repositories and plugins..If any  
  attribute is incorrect such as groupId/artifactId/versionor plugin  
  repositories are inaccessible or you have a file system which doesnt  
  support the default repository of .m2 then nothing works whats more  
  there is no user-list (at least from what I've seen thus far)  
  available..On the plus side maven's ability to configure internet  
  site repositories is probably maven's most powerful
 featurehttp://maven.apache.org/
  HTH/
 
 Thanks Martin,
 
 Maven and Ant are both great tools - they are great for building a  
 Release and Deployment platform, but in the are not that in themselves.
 
 I probably should have said that I am looking for a web based system,  
 than can use whatever - maven, ant, make, shell... but
 provides a friendly environment to track releases, publish software,  
 etc...
 
 Thanks
 
 Andrew

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Re: [OT] Release Management and Deployment

2007-11-16 Thread Andrew Miehs

On 16/11/2007, at 4:09 PM, Martin Gainty wrote:


2 options-Tried and true Ant which is rock solid reliable, easily  
configurable and a user-friendly user-list where a resource will  
respond in 24 hoursmore information available athttp://ant.apache.org/Maven..complex 
 environment with heavy reliance on repositories and plugins..If any  
attribute is incorrect such as groupId/artifactId/versionor plugin  
repositories are inaccessible or you have a file system which doesnt  
support the default repository of .m2 then nothing works whats more  
there is no user-list (at least from what I've seen thus far)  
available..On the plus side maven's ability to configure internet  
site repositories is probably maven's most powerful featurehttp://maven.apache.org/

HTH/


Thanks Martin,

Maven and Ant are both great tools - they are great for building a  
Release and Deployment platform, but in the are not that in themselves.


I probably should have said that I am looking for a web based system,  
than can use whatever - maven, ant, make, shell... but
provides a friendly environment to track releases, publish software,  
etc...


Thanks

Andrew

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[OT] Release Management and Deployment

2007-11-16 Thread Andrew Miehs

Dear Tomcat users,

I was wondering if there are any out of the box release management and  
deployment solutions available for Tomcat.


It is not a problem to create scripts/ web pages to do all of this,  
but is there a better solution out there, so that people with command  
line allergy can also deploy software?


Thanks in advance,


Andrew

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Re: [OT] Release Management and Deployment

2007-11-16 Thread broken connection
Try Apache Continuum http://maven.apache.org/continuum/

On 11/16/07, Johnny Kewl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



 ---
 HARBOR: http://coolharbor.100free.com/index.htm
 Now Tomcat is also a cool pojo application server

 ---

 Yes, the above link...
 I think, because you asking it here, we all assuming you talking WARs...
 in
 which case ant script is great.
 Tracking progress and monitoring releases, probably Subversion with a web
 interface.

 If you talking about getting an application to someone then there is
 the
 above link.
 It runs on Tomcat ... naturally!
 It has a Webstart type interface (Called Ship Launching), basically you
 drop
 the application and its libraries into a folder... user clicks on link in
 browser and it starts there.

 Then there is the POJO application server side which is more radical...
 you
 apply MVC to your app, easy once you know how, but then you drop your
 application into a folder, but this time ONLY the user interface starts on
 the users machine... the rest of the application runs on the server, so it
 delivers very quick, and even though the application is split... it
 carries
 on working.
 It works so well that when people look at the demo's, they actually dont
 realize that only the UI is started from the browser... they think the
 whole
 app was downloaded, but then when something starts in under a second...
 they
 should guess that its Web Start on steriods.

 Oh where am I going... great management is possible because even though
 the
 remote users runs it, the application never leaves your server.

 Have fun...


 - Original Message -
 From: Andrew Miehs [EMAIL PROTECTED]

  I was wondering if there are any out of the box release management and
  deployment solutions available for Tomcat.
 
  It is not a problem to create scripts/ web pages to do all of this,  but
  is there a better solution out there, so that people with command  line
  allergy can also deploy software?
 
  Thanks in advance,
 
 
  Andrew


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Re: [OT] Release Management and Deployment

2007-11-16 Thread Johnny Kewl


---
HARBOR: http://coolharbor.100free.com/index.htm
Now Tomcat is also a cool pojo application server
---

Yes, the above link...
I think, because you asking it here, we all assuming you talking WARs... in 
which case ant script is great.
Tracking progress and monitoring releases, probably Subversion with a web 
interface.


If you talking about getting an application to someone then there is the 
above link.

It runs on Tomcat ... naturally!
It has a Webstart type interface (Called Ship Launching), basically you drop 
the application and its libraries into a folder... user clicks on link in 
browser and it starts there.


Then there is the POJO application server side which is more radical... you 
apply MVC to your app, easy once you know how, but then you drop your 
application into a folder, but this time ONLY the user interface starts on 
the users machine... the rest of the application runs on the server, so it 
delivers very quick, and even though the application is split... it carries 
on working.
It works so well that when people look at the demo's, they actually dont 
realize that only the UI is started from the browser... they think the whole 
app was downloaded, but then when something starts in under a second... they 
should guess that its Web Start on steriods.


Oh where am I going... great management is possible because even though the 
remote users runs it, the application never leaves your server.


Have fun...


- Original Message - 
From: Andrew Miehs [EMAIL PROTECTED]


I was wondering if there are any out of the box release management and 
deployment solutions available for Tomcat.


It is not a problem to create scripts/ web pages to do all of this,  but 
is there a better solution out there, so that people with command  line 
allergy can also deploy software?


Thanks in advance,


Andrew 



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Re: [OT] Release Management and Deployment

2007-11-16 Thread Johnny Kewl


---
HARBOR: http://coolharbor.100free.com/index.htm
Now Tomcat is also a cool pojo application server
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Try Apache Continuum http://maven.apache.org/continuum/


Gave the Live demo a whiz... looks good, nice maven tool.
Nice for tracking project builds and I think especially good for widely 
dispersed developers.

Should announce new stuff like this, in *all* mailing lists... thanks.


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