Re: Concept for modeling hierarchical data

2006-01-10 Thread David Smith

Florian Lindner wrote:


Hello,
I'm searching for the best concept of how to use and save hierarchical data.
I have a structure like PC file system with meta data. There a folder objects 
and files objects of different types. Every object have data like 
permissions, date and author. And they have type-specific data fields like 
resolution (of an image type) or location (of an meeting type) or ingredients 
(of an recipe type).
What is the best way to store that kind of data? What database is 
recommendable? What concepts of persistance? Or not using managed persistance 
and do it manually?


Thanks for all ideas!

Florian

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There is also JSR-170 which defines an API for storing data 
hierarchically.  The Jackrabbit project is one implementation of it and 
currently used in the Magnolia CMS.


JSR-170 spec: http://www.jcp.org/en/jsr/detail?id=170
Jackrabbit project: http://incubator.apache.org/projects/jackrabbit.html
Magnolia CMS: http://www.magnolia.info

--David

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Re: Concept for modeling hierarchical data

2006-01-10 Thread Florian Lindner
Am Dienstag, 10. Januar 2006 07:51 schrieb Nikola Milutinovic:
 Florian Lindner wrote:
 Hello,
 I'm searching for the best concept of how to use and save hierarchical
  data. I have a structure like PC file system with meta data. There a
  folder objects and files objects of different types. Every object have
  data like permissions, date and author. And they have type-specific data
  fields like resolution (of an image type) or location (of an meeting
  type) or ingredients (of an recipe type).
 What is the best way to store that kind of data? What database is
 recommendable? What concepts of persistance? Or not using managed
  persistance and do it manually?

 If you want to do it manually, a hierarchical tree can be represented by
 just one table:

 CREATE TABLE tree (
 id   INTEGER   PRIMARY KEY,
 parent_id   INTEGER
 );

 With managed persistence, be carefull not to configure it to load the
 entire tree at once.

 As for a DB, any decent relational DB will do.

In this concept I need a table for every type of objekt I want?

Regards,

Florian

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RE: Concept for modeling hierarchical data

2006-01-10 Thread Fredrik Rubensson
 

Florian Lindner wrote:
  Florian Lindner wrote:
  Hello,
  I'm searching for the best concept of how to use and save 
  hierarchical  data. I have a structure like PC file system with
meta 
  data. There a  folder objects and files objects of different types.

  Every object have  data like permissions, date and author. And they

  have type-specific data  fields like resolution (of an image type)
or 
  location (of an meeting
   type) or ingredients (of an recipe type).
  What is the best way to store that kind of data? What database is 
  recommendable? What concepts of persistance? Or not using managed  
  persistance and do it manually?
 
  If you want to do it manually, a hierarchical tree can be
represented 
  by just one table:
 
  CREATE TABLE tree (
  id   INTEGER   PRIMARY KEY,
  parent_id   INTEGER
  );
 
  With managed persistence, be carefull not to configure it to load
the 
  entire tree at once.
 
  As for a DB, any decent relational DB will do.
 
 In this concept I need a table for every type of objekt I want?

It depends on if you want the DB to handle data integrity for you. If
you are happy to have everything as key-value pairs you can come away
with two tables. Add a table with columns kay, values and a foreign key
to the suggested tree table. If you want specific data integrity per
type you will have to have one table per type. It also seems that some
data is there for all types (permissions, date and author). Maybe you
want to reuse that definition in one table. 

In the end it depends on what you will be using this tree of data for,
how will you access it and what technology will be used? Will it be
read-only or both reads and writes? Volumes? Number of users? If data is
to be updated by several users I think youl should definitely use a
relational database of some kind. If it is read-only then XML files will
be good enough. Hibernate is a good persistence framework to use if you
want to do the modeling in XML or Java.

Fredrik


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Concept for modeling hierarchical data

2006-01-09 Thread Florian Lindner
Hello,
I'm searching for the best concept of how to use and save hierarchical data.
I have a structure like PC file system with meta data. There a folder objects 
and files objects of different types. Every object have data like 
permissions, date and author. And they have type-specific data fields like 
resolution (of an image type) or location (of an meeting type) or ingredients 
(of an recipe type).
What is the best way to store that kind of data? What database is 
recommendable? What concepts of persistance? Or not using managed persistance 
and do it manually?

Thanks for all ideas!

Florian

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