Re: JSESSIONID being lost

2010-04-21 Thread Ron McNulty

Hi Jim

There may be another mis-configured server out there that produces 
JSESSIONID cookies with a domain-wide scope. SAP portals are a known 
problem.


Best of luck

Regards

Ron

- Original Message - 
From: Jim Goodspeed goodspeeds...@gmail.com

To: users@tomcat.apache.org
Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2010 10:47 AM
Subject: JSESSIONID being lost



I'm hoping someone may have some insight into a difficult problem we are
having.  We have a situation where the JSESSIONID seems to get lost
somewhere in a users transaction - the result is they get kicked back to 
the
applications login page (no sessionid so the app thinks they haven't 
logged

in).

Our current setup is two hardware load balancers (layer 4) in front of two
Apache servers (2.2.14) which sit in front of two tomcat servers (6.0.20).
The hardware load balancers load balance apache and apache load balances
tomcat using AJP via mod_proxy.  Apache and Tomcat are running on RHEL4
32-bit.  The JVM is 1.6.

This issue first popped up when we moved to the above architecture -
previously we had no hardware load balancers and only one apache server
balancing two tomcat servers (still with AJP via mod_proxy).  Initial
thoughts were that it had something to do with either the 2nd apache 
server

or the load balancers.

One way we have made this better (but not fixed) was to turn off one of 
the
tomcat servers so that requests could only go to one place - we thought 
that

the users session was being sent to the other tomcat server even though we
were using sticky sessions.  This was our temporary fix until we could
implement clustering, but today we found that users were still being 
kicked

back to the login page even with only one tomcat server running.  In the
interim we have turned off one of the apache servers to see if that helps
(so two hardware load balancers, one apache server and one tomcat server).

This problem is intermittent and almost impossible to reproduce, but it 
does

seem to happen more under heavy load.  Any insight would be very much
appreciated.  If it would help I can post our apache and tomcat
configurations.


Thanks in advance.




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JSESSIONID being lost

2010-04-20 Thread Jim Goodspeed
I'm hoping someone may have some insight into a difficult problem we are
having.  We have a situation where the JSESSIONID seems to get lost
somewhere in a users transaction - the result is they get kicked back to the
applications login page (no sessionid so the app thinks they haven't logged
in).

Our current setup is two hardware load balancers (layer 4) in front of two
Apache servers (2.2.14) which sit in front of two tomcat servers (6.0.20).
The hardware load balancers load balance apache and apache load balances
tomcat using AJP via mod_proxy.  Apache and Tomcat are running on RHEL4
32-bit.  The JVM is 1.6.

This issue first popped up when we moved to the above architecture -
previously we had no hardware load balancers and only one apache server
balancing two tomcat servers (still with AJP via mod_proxy).  Initial
thoughts were that it had something to do with either the 2nd apache server
or the load balancers.

One way we have made this better (but not fixed) was to turn off one of the
tomcat servers so that requests could only go to one place - we thought that
the users session was being sent to the other tomcat server even though we
were using sticky sessions.  This was our temporary fix until we could
implement clustering, but today we found that users were still being kicked
back to the login page even with only one tomcat server running.  In the
interim we have turned off one of the apache servers to see if that helps
(so two hardware load balancers, one apache server and one tomcat server).

This problem is intermittent and almost impossible to reproduce, but it does
seem to happen more under heavy load.  Any insight would be very much
appreciated.  If it would help I can post our apache and tomcat
configurations.


Thanks in advance.


Re: JSESSIONID being lost

2010-04-20 Thread Konstantin Kolinko
2010/4/21 Jim Goodspeed goodspeeds...@gmail.com:
 Our current setup is two hardware load balancers (layer 4) in front of two
 Apache servers (2.2.14) which sit in front of two tomcat servers (6.0.20).
 The hardware load balancers load balance apache and apache load balances
 tomcat using AJP via mod_proxy.  Apache and Tomcat are running on RHEL4
 32-bit.  The JVM is 1.6.


1. Note that there can be
https://issues.apache.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=48345
Session does time-out shorter than setting in web.xml when
PersistentManager is used. 

2. Maybe implementing a javax.servlet.http.HttpSessionListener will
allow you to catch the circumstances when your issue happens.  Note,
that if you add it to ${catalina.base}/conf/web.xml, it will be
present in all the web applications deployed on your server.

That is, if the session actually expires on the server.

 We have a situation where the JSESSIONID seems to get lost
 somewhere in a users transaction - the result is they get kicked back to the
 applications login page (no sessionid so the app thinks they haven't logged
 in).

Do you have any evidences on what actually happens? E.g., you can
iterate over request headers to see if the cookie is actually present,
and what path it contains, etc.


Best regards,
Konstantin Kolinko

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