PID file locked on Windows 2008 system
Hi, We have a requirement to read the PID file created by the Tomcat server process on Windows, but we are not able to using RandomAccessFile or FileInputStream because the file seems to be locked by the Tomcat process. Why does the Tomcat server keep the PID file locked, preventing other processes to even read the file? Is there a work around or solution for this problem? Any help is appreciated. Thank you in advance. Regards, Regards, Anilkumar Ambati 4205 S Miami Blvd WebSphere Virtual Enterprise Development Durham, 27703-9141 Phone: +1-919-254-6152 USA Mobile: +1-919-434-5674 e-mail: aamb...@us.ibm.com You have no responsibility to live up to what other people think you ought to accomplish. -Richard Feynman (1918-1988)
Re: PID file locked on Windows 2008 system
On 11/4/2014 2:58 PM, Anil Ambati wrote: Hi, We have a requirement to read the PID file created by the Tomcat server process on Windows, but we are not able to using RandomAccessFile or FileInputStream because the file seems to be locked by the Tomcat process. What is the PID file? The only abbreviation I know by that name is the Process ID, which is just a number. Why does the Tomcat server keep the PID file locked, preventing other processes to even read the file? Is there a work around or solution for this problem? Any help is appreciated. Thank you in advance. Regards, Regards, *Anilkumar Ambati* 4205 S Miami Blvd WebSphere Virtual Enterprise Development Durham, 27703-9141 Phone: +1-919-254-6152 USA Mobile: +1-919-434-5674 e-mail: aamb...@us.ibm.com You have no responsibility to live up to what other people think you ought to accomplish. -Richard Feynman (1918-1988) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@tomcat.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@tomcat.apache.org
Re: PID file locked on Windows 2008 system
I was referring to the .pid file Tomcat server creates in the logs directory. This file contains the process ID of the Tomcat process. Regards, Anilkumar Ambati 4205 S Miami Blvd WebSphere Virtual Enterprise Development Durham, 27703-9141 Phone: +1-919-254-6152 USA Mobile: +1-919-434-5674 e-mail: aamb...@us.ibm.com You have no responsibility to live up to what other people think you ought to accomplish. -Richard Feynman (1918-1988) From: David kerber dcker...@verizon.net To: Tomcat Users List users@tomcat.apache.org, Date: 11/04/2014 03:45 PM Subject: Re: PID file locked on Windows 2008 system On 11/4/2014 2:58 PM, Anil Ambati wrote: Hi, We have a requirement to read the PID file created by the Tomcat server process on Windows, but we are not able to using RandomAccessFile or FileInputStream because the file seems to be locked by the Tomcat process. What is the PID file? The only abbreviation I know by that name is the Process ID, which is just a number. Why does the Tomcat server keep the PID file locked, preventing other processes to even read the file? Is there a work around or solution for this problem? Any help is appreciated. Thank you in advance. Regards, Regards, *Anilkumar Ambati* 4205 S Miami Blvd WebSphere Virtual Enterprise DevelopmentDurham, 27703-9141 Phone: +1-919-254-6152 USA Mobile:+1-919-434-5674 e-mail:aamb...@us.ibm.com You have no responsibility to live up to what other people think you ought to accomplish. -Richard Feynman (1918-1988) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@tomcat.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@tomcat.apache.org
Re: PID file locked on Windows 2008 system
On 11/4/2014 4:21 PM, Anil Ambati wrote: I was referring to the .pid file Tomcat server creates in the logs directory. This file contains the process ID of the Tomcat process. What version of Tomcat, Windows, and Java are you using? My 7.0.54 doesn't seem to create that file anywhere in the file system. Regards, *Anilkumar Ambati* 4205 S Miami Blvd WebSphere Virtual Enterprise Development Durham, 27703-9141 Phone: +1-919-254-6152 USA Mobile: +1-919-434-5674 e-mail: aamb...@us.ibm.com You have no responsibility to live up to what other people think you ought to accomplish. -Richard Feynman (1918-1988) From: David kerber dcker...@verizon.net To: Tomcat Users List users@tomcat.apache.org, Date: 11/04/2014 03:45 PM Subject:Re: PID file locked on Windows 2008 system On 11/4/2014 2:58 PM, Anil Ambati wrote: Hi, We have a requirement to read the PID file created by the Tomcat server process on Windows, but we are not able to using RandomAccessFile or FileInputStream because the file seems to be locked by the Tomcat process. What is the PID file? The only abbreviation I know by that name is the Process ID, which is just a number. Why does the Tomcat server keep the PID file locked, preventing other processes to even read the file? Is there a work around or solution for this problem? Any help is appreciated. Thank you in advance. Regards, Regards, *Anilkumar Ambati* 4205 S Miami Blvd WebSphere Virtual Enterprise Development Durham, 27703-9141 Phone: +1-919-254-6152 USA Mobile: +1-919-434-5674 e-mail: aamb...@us.ibm.com You have no responsibility to live up to what other people think you ought to accomplish. -Richard Feynman (1918-1988) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@tomcat.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@tomcat.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@tomcat.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@tomcat.apache.org
Re: PID file locked on Windows 2008 system
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Anil, On 11/4/14 2:58 PM, Anil Ambati wrote: We have a requirement to read the PID file created by the Tomcat server process on Windows, but we are not able to using RandomAccessFile or FileInputStream because the file seems to be locked by the Tomcat process. Why does the Tomcat server keep the PID file locked, preventing other processes to even read the file? Is there a work around or solution for this problem? You must be using commons-daemon's procrun, otherwise known as the Windows service wrapper. That process creates (and possibly locks) the PID file for Tomcat. You may find users here who know the answer to your question, but you might have better luck posting to the commons mailing list to ask there. I suspect it's something silly like holding-open the PID file instead of writing to it and then closing it. - -chris -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1 Comment: GPGTools - http://gpgtools.org iQIcBAEBCAAGBQJUWVJWAAoJEBzwKT+lPKRYo0UP/A/HW0TvHf24Esw4tK+wlbLG tOwruOGaSC+fwO+hSnSszwmrbRbgwcD6EKwPuueO7aUy3Gp5rCIjnqH13J34It8m /31oO8ILwawUpDpup+QZnPOdgxPUfvVBf0Sobiec5HNTNcfiCvqjF4qBB0Eedbt/ SMmaRBzNSOzSog4LpBKskHaBJSlt65UqMUS0sk2DrbYO+aJRCYA6hv8f5w8gWB0d c6z6KOHncVweFiN3fl8PXabKcTWvSEiLh4c+TdXLfC6syMIAQxjo+w5GSOgzQsEU ujWh/aB1FSKltNzvW0/2AKABKBH4r6ODuG7bpjrrQ3xSWZch2j8pFGqYgyuCVBwB EHclh9d18RYba031r01I9o9tDHGlt1DewquccBgb5m0qRduESqtI0/LYRpr0QUTP 6kgR2CCwi81d2OR8ifk6Jhs58ChGzWq4lpeR8ZAd+xsN/1VozznU0XvOOzNd8E6s qjZMYbSjaoFFPNHJNXW1ZrfIXfTrFWXHwO4e29BxZrKFhB4I3pL84GrQqO7jOFpc 5jO+avhdOGnAb7I/A2mz3b+XKqVL1Ob+U7rfL3uaUeZbuxraNZEqZuvyhgxZ9c23 Zwwyw5RoU0QOCpJJfhoTdsAlgPVSNAgcvhxPMChzQQepSIoGHAOg6cQi5pptNKgP 1TUe3h54UjuGqY1lJ0wO =sBXy -END PGP SIGNATURE- - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@tomcat.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@tomcat.apache.org
Re: PID file locked on Windows 2008 system
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Anil, On 11/4/14 5:25 PM, Christopher Schultz wrote: Anil, On 11/4/14 2:58 PM, Anil Ambati wrote: We have a requirement to read the PID file created by the Tomcat server process on Windows, but we are not able to using RandomAccessFile or FileInputStream because the file seems to be locked by the Tomcat process. Why does the Tomcat server keep the PID file locked, preventing other processes to even read the file? Is there a work around or solution for this problem? You must be using commons-daemon's procrun, otherwise known as the Windows service wrapper. That process creates (and possibly locks) the PID file for Tomcat. You may find users here who know the answer to your question, but you might have better luck posting to the commons mailing list to ask there. I suspect it's something silly like holding-open the PID file instead of writing to it and then closing it. I took a quick look, and it looks like the PID file is being created with a file option FILE_FLAG_DELETE_ON_CLOSE which causes the OS to delete the file off the disk when all file handles are closed. So, closing the file handle will result in the PID file being deleted. This option was added because the PID file wasn't being removed if the service crashed, which kept the service from restarting (oops). https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/DAEMON-183 It seems like an option to control what happens on startup when the PID file already exists would be a good idea. You'll have to ask the procrun folks about what the options are. It seems reasonable to be able to read the PID file, since not being able to read it makes it kind of useless other than as a lock-file (i.e. its contents are irrelevant). - -chris -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1 Comment: GPGTools - http://gpgtools.org iQIcBAEBCAAGBQJUWVVlAAoJEBzwKT+lPKRYrQsP+wVCM1ASSBh+LuNIPjRUkUxi 3uBfjLArQIplC0l98dIQZZlBJQAsh0Lc61Tvo2Q+Ka5zPtq+WA9GlDVTH3MZo82E kcleNxwFcmx0fGWizStEhMsxGqtGAKWct68FwVTFKDb8Bl68ud20fqJ5bEyyL6lP 2kV8QTjRcqJs42NvpjmW14NBGzXWiGF5BKOh3dGTdp1h6kIZrcOY/oOfX8noaO/K evMDRrCas/MARzUQ/gBGMoZN5KmqPFcAvotlJlhECg1bpMTX38etIAwnMsnFRuZ9 Y0Ci5ffQ5I3MDvyWUf5Sv8UBJHLGUjwXzKbWCagDfBtgOZxp389t8Ro1TWDtMF7l KWO9wvjX0Y1oS13xrl4VNNr/6oQuvybSwKYtMrFycRB8/K573QHrgSixI+7lNWNk jyNus6cpOINxhMxsuyyu5oF+1O7EV0yWhXT+EIWt7mpzXLsyjQc/XbpFwQ3anNUv YrD+CB+I/FLA/O1RSEEd9+NzpO45laSyoz3KfIqVFMkqCLKyjdA652jR+ik978kX fc5gsQVtoeGAuTbNTm9eSS9hv2wjJoMSl0A6gT9Y8q83448IlhaSYE1mXSYG6XIp DxNe0Dci0M5biNju+OIWrtW23zG4Q1eW8MIvs5wltVl8873zLdPpc49+dg3H+xIs Mj55IlSYkg4GMHtdohle =fhDz -END PGP SIGNATURE- - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@tomcat.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@tomcat.apache.org
Re: PID file locked on Windows 2008 system
On 11/4/2014 5:25 PM, Christopher Schultz wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Anil, On 11/4/14 2:58 PM, Anil Ambati wrote: We have a requirement to read the PID file created by the Tomcat server process on Windows, but we are not able to using RandomAccessFile or FileInputStream because the file seems to be locked by the Tomcat process. Why does the Tomcat server keep the PID file locked, preventing other processes to even read the file? Is there a work around or solution for this problem? You must be using commons-daemon's procrun, otherwise known as the Windows service wrapper. That process creates (and possibly locks) the PID file for Tomcat. This is only peripherally related to the OP, but is there a situation where that file is not created, when using the windows service wrapper? I run a dozen or so instances of TC 7.0.54 as separate services on Windows 2008 R2 using the included renamed version of procrun, and don't have any pid files anywhere that I can find on my file system. You may find users here who know the answer to your question, but you might have better luck posting to the commons mailing list to ask there. I suspect it's something silly like holding-open the PID file instead of writing to it and then closing it. - -chris -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1 Comment: GPGTools - http://gpgtools.org iQIcBAEBCAAGBQJUWVJWAAoJEBzwKT+lPKRYo0UP/A/HW0TvHf24Esw4tK+wlbLG tOwruOGaSC+fwO+hSnSszwmrbRbgwcD6EKwPuueO7aUy3Gp5rCIjnqH13J34It8m /31oO8ILwawUpDpup+QZnPOdgxPUfvVBf0Sobiec5HNTNcfiCvqjF4qBB0Eedbt/ SMmaRBzNSOzSog4LpBKskHaBJSlt65UqMUS0sk2DrbYO+aJRCYA6hv8f5w8gWB0d c6z6KOHncVweFiN3fl8PXabKcTWvSEiLh4c+TdXLfC6syMIAQxjo+w5GSOgzQsEU ujWh/aB1FSKltNzvW0/2AKABKBH4r6ODuG7bpjrrQ3xSWZch2j8pFGqYgyuCVBwB EHclh9d18RYba031r01I9o9tDHGlt1DewquccBgb5m0qRduESqtI0/LYRpr0QUTP 6kgR2CCwi81d2OR8ifk6Jhs58ChGzWq4lpeR8ZAd+xsN/1VozznU0XvOOzNd8E6s qjZMYbSjaoFFPNHJNXW1ZrfIXfTrFWXHwO4e29BxZrKFhB4I3pL84GrQqO7jOFpc 5jO+avhdOGnAb7I/A2mz3b+XKqVL1Ob+U7rfL3uaUeZbuxraNZEqZuvyhgxZ9c23 Zwwyw5RoU0QOCpJJfhoTdsAlgPVSNAgcvhxPMChzQQepSIoGHAOg6cQi5pptNKgP 1TUe3h54UjuGqY1lJ0wO =sBXy -END PGP SIGNATURE- - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@tomcat.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@tomcat.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@tomcat.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@tomcat.apache.org
Re: PID file locked on Windows 2008 system
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 David, On 11/4/14 5:54 PM, David kerber wrote: On 11/4/2014 5:25 PM, Christopher Schultz wrote: Anil, On 11/4/14 2:58 PM, Anil Ambati wrote: We have a requirement to read the PID file created by the Tomcat server process on Windows, but we are not able to using RandomAccessFile or FileInputStream because the file seems to be locked by the Tomcat process. Why does the Tomcat server keep the PID file locked, preventing other processes to even read the file? Is there a work around or solution for this problem? You must be using commons-daemon's procrun, otherwise known as the Windows service wrapper. That process creates (and possibly locks) the PID file for Tomcat. This is only peripherally related to the OP, but is there a situation where that file is not created, when using the windows service wrapper? I run a dozen or so instances of TC 7.0.54 as separate services on Windows 2008 R2 using the included renamed version of procrun, and don't have any pid files anywhere that I can find on my file system. Sure: if you don't specify a --PidFile argument in procrun, you won't get a PID file. - -chris -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1 Comment: GPGTools - http://gpgtools.org iQIcBAEBCAAGBQJUWV8WAAoJEBzwKT+lPKRYXj0P/jTfRf4NQ2ozxcgIz1kW5SHL QiSy4lEZnMoN7U52rLDIOH40z4eSp3Q5RqZh5eFbsWGuQBHm0n9DEa1KcR0oXKMD SYzUnYdelfwi/TeG9dPSzHowMjLPhKE4h5p/fKwNx1tfsuFTbZ2rfLAlEl9XH8Zz nJ79cN+gxF2n3Dy9+JA86nwO/bACQyMToK1rVjtofSpNGD5Q87ehMDY3BviEh0TX 6Y+TeEzRsgSCyrrNBLw5brfJloqAqf94NEDklytDuWSbCbVA5Sru7/KRVHE/RUmr TUppuaNgZ3zwS3X8k+24duTQbvRc0ADPu94MbBYjcrIyti1BUfhoZQ9yvVLIxZOo IT2WkhT34u8l1aDQcdkYc3DX4Osag03kHkEpoJiC8ALe79RSy6b+h/5xFbIZ1gZ5 UgXEsGCylAVErXlsz2695Ogt31LeCBOqoqmbfu1kpmAdZUDrlqG19lXy/hKgTlyB W5DlmvtgR1od95IiYM4qF02bXrE+PoscpWdsjvMXcJqEjm2g/y8tWD9vHYyjtakw 6kzwPZa/ew+EBmADh6G+SMkeS0826gnguHQXuuxq5GR24Ws7hT/QMhrK2AuPl5nd dnYfZ9taBvX+4giV6ZBny/nZGxux88/ZJ9S4yfRB4GvQh1cupfohra/xxkBX8+F8 vJUqSoRROGc5k9NJePWW =2WQg -END PGP SIGNATURE- - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@tomcat.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@tomcat.apache.org
Re: PID file locked on Windows 2008 system
7.0.56 To make Tomcat to create a pid file , you need to specify name of the file in the Tomcat 7 properties window (To open this window select, Configure Tomcat menu option in the Windows Start menu) Regards, Anilkumar Ambati 4205 S Miami Blvd WebSphere Virtual Enterprise Development Durham, 27703-9141 Phone: +1-919-254-6152 USA Mobile: +1-919-434-5674 e-mail: aamb...@us.ibm.com You have no responsibility to live up to what other people think you ought to accomplish. -Richard Feynman (1918-1988) From: David kerber dcker...@verizon.net To: Tomcat Users List users@tomcat.apache.org, Date: 11/04/2014 04:37 PM Subject: Re: PID file locked on Windows 2008 system On 11/4/2014 4:21 PM, Anil Ambati wrote: I was referring to the .pid file Tomcat server creates in the logs directory. This file contains the process ID of the Tomcat process. What version of Tomcat, Windows, and Java are you using? My 7.0.54 doesn't seem to create that file anywhere in the file system. Regards, *Anilkumar Ambati* 4205 S Miami Blvd WebSphere Virtual Enterprise DevelopmentDurham, 27703-9141 Phone: +1-919-254-6152 USA Mobile:+1-919-434-5674 e-mail:aamb...@us.ibm.com You have no responsibility to live up to what other people think you ought to accomplish. -Richard Feynman (1918-1988) From: David kerber dcker...@verizon.net To:Tomcat Users List users@tomcat.apache.org, Date: 11/04/2014 03:45 PM Subject: Re: PID file locked on Windows 2008 system On 11/4/2014 2:58 PM, Anil Ambati wrote: Hi, We have a requirement to read the PID file created by the Tomcat server process on Windows, but we are not able to using RandomAccessFile or FileInputStream because the file seems to be locked by the Tomcat process. What is the PID file? The only abbreviation I know by that name is the Process ID, which is just a number. Why does the Tomcat server keep the PID file locked, preventing other processes to even read the file? Is there a work around or solution for this problem? Any help is appreciated. Thank you in advance. Regards, Regards, *Anilkumar Ambati* 4205 S Miami Blvd WebSphere Virtual Enterprise Development Durham, 27703-9141 Phone: +1-919-254-6152 USA Mobile: +1-919-434-5674 e-mail: aamb...@us.ibm.com You have no responsibility to live up to what other people think you ought to accomplish. -Richard Feynman (1918-1988) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@tomcat.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@tomcat.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@tomcat.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@tomcat.apache.org
Re: PID file locked on Windows 2008 system
Hi Chris, Thanks for the response. How can I ask procrun folks about the options? Is there another news group? Sorry , I am new to Tomcat. Regards, Anilkumar Ambati 4205 S Miami Blvd WebSphere Virtual Enterprise Development Durham, 27703-9141 Phone: +1-919-254-6152 USA Mobile: +1-919-434-5674 e-mail: aamb...@us.ibm.com You have no responsibility to live up to what other people think you ought to accomplish. -Richard Feynman (1918-1988) From: Christopher Schultz ch...@christopherschultz.net To: Tomcat Users List users@tomcat.apache.org, Date: 11/04/2014 05:39 PM Subject: Re: PID file locked on Windows 2008 system -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Anil, On 11/4/14 5:25 PM, Christopher Schultz wrote: Anil, On 11/4/14 2:58 PM, Anil Ambati wrote: We have a requirement to read the PID file created by the Tomcat server process on Windows, but we are not able to using RandomAccessFile or FileInputStream because the file seems to be locked by the Tomcat process. Why does the Tomcat server keep the PID file locked, preventing other processes to even read the file? Is there a work around or solution for this problem? You must be using commons-daemon's procrun, otherwise known as the Windows service wrapper. That process creates (and possibly locks) the PID file for Tomcat. You may find users here who know the answer to your question, but you might have better luck posting to the commons mailing list to ask there. I suspect it's something silly like holding-open the PID file instead of writing to it and then closing it. I took a quick look, and it looks like the PID file is being created with a file option FILE_FLAG_DELETE_ON_CLOSE which causes the OS to delete the file off the disk when all file handles are closed. So, closing the file handle will result in the PID file being deleted. This option was added because the PID file wasn't being removed if the service crashed, which kept the service from restarting (oops). https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/DAEMON-183 It seems like an option to control what happens on startup when the PID file already exists would be a good idea. You'll have to ask the procrun folks about what the options are. It seems reasonable to be able to read the PID file, since not being able to read it makes it kind of useless other than as a lock-file (i.e. its contents are irrelevant). - -chris -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1 Comment: GPGTools - http://gpgtools.org iQIcBAEBCAAGBQJUWVVlAAoJEBzwKT+lPKRYrQsP+wVCM1ASSBh+LuNIPjRUkUxi 3uBfjLArQIplC0l98dIQZZlBJQAsh0Lc61Tvo2Q+Ka5zPtq+WA9GlDVTH3MZo82E kcleNxwFcmx0fGWizStEhMsxGqtGAKWct68FwVTFKDb8Bl68ud20fqJ5bEyyL6lP 2kV8QTjRcqJs42NvpjmW14NBGzXWiGF5BKOh3dGTdp1h6kIZrcOY/oOfX8noaO/K evMDRrCas/MARzUQ/gBGMoZN5KmqPFcAvotlJlhECg1bpMTX38etIAwnMsnFRuZ9 Y0Ci5ffQ5I3MDvyWUf5Sv8UBJHLGUjwXzKbWCagDfBtgOZxp389t8Ro1TWDtMF7l KWO9wvjX0Y1oS13xrl4VNNr/6oQuvybSwKYtMrFycRB8/K573QHrgSixI+7lNWNk jyNus6cpOINxhMxsuyyu5oF+1O7EV0yWhXT+EIWt7mpzXLsyjQc/XbpFwQ3anNUv YrD+CB+I/FLA/O1RSEEd9+NzpO45laSyoz3KfIqVFMkqCLKyjdA652jR+ik978kX fc5gsQVtoeGAuTbNTm9eSS9hv2wjJoMSl0A6gT9Y8q83448IlhaSYE1mXSYG6XIp DxNe0Dci0M5biNju+OIWrtW23zG4Q1eW8MIvs5wltVl8873zLdPpc49+dg3H+xIs Mj55IlSYkg4GMHtdohle =fhDz -END PGP SIGNATURE- - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@tomcat.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@tomcat.apache.org
Re: PID file locked on Windows 2008 system
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Anil, On 11/4/14 6:27 PM, Anil Ambati wrote: Thanks for the response. How can I ask procrun folks about the options? Is there another news group? Sorry , I am new to Tomcat. Yes, you'll want to post to the commons users mailing list: http://commons.apache.org/proper/commons-daemon/mail-lists.html Please be aware that Apache commons is ... crowded. If you post to the list, please put [daemon] in the subject line to get some attention. Otherwise, you'll not cut through all the messages about mathematical solvers, parsers, file compression utilities and all the other things that have been dumped into commons over the years. We'd be interested in hearing the result of the discussion, so please post back here if/when you get an answer and/or resolution. - -chris -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1 Comment: GPGTools - http://gpgtools.org iQIcBAEBCAAGBQJUWXchAAoJEBzwKT+lPKRYRbYP/0B/quqn9cvqG+cZWg0xjHHt Fq6/qseW+Br+rLRo1+oPSPe/PwDyGdHS39a7L4fFfXUeUeWUWYqv5VNmHN8qIjh2 C8B7KW/Kr2ZGhcI1gN8jhw9vzOlXwOqXH2VhwT6VHXPmFA8QGa8NteVdf29YLvzO H8V3f6mVIIOtTaNGXLGyQHTPw4IW0vpxZWeTt0b+jtJg3goKM8Tr7vs2dtqY8C5l UQUZ8o1u9wfAVsoTy/RSeDzRzdafsLYwjp9LNztxU/aDG/mghlbcjgKajnHgaQEn 6xvSRZ1anHZWHbbblpWHC7ak2MG2dvo8OMweblAxjbSEvppq9ngGt+0o3jBheVWJ 9soHHrJOJvz+FF/zYmoKTDRLd6/Y3iTkE/pYPOVZbHcWfGVEVHfCOh0dMeEwiuLw A8cnX2V4Tv0FeRst+UjuMAbCUrHrTH3dE63bJ3ioFJ1BXFXwxIkGjh2loRhDbU25 gqKGwYWOjzZU45X+GaSsmUap1khA1or2n+fwOzVU9UqoFlu6FpANHb81itK9FEhh jbOfxfffNspkCOpKK7MWn3Fe2ePTvHehUbbhgtCjScYBfhZviTsWmyg4PdpNt2wt jBEIRjc/EcaEgp3qW/aPUphN7WzYAR4UBbss2CpXn5YQa+WWok2j9KfuLaDw8xOf X798FCTr6j1ugiZaedlt =KW59 -END PGP SIGNATURE- - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@tomcat.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@tomcat.apache.org