RE: Distributed web services: Tomcat or Jboss?

2007-09-18 Thread Matthias Klein
Unless EJB would provide a significant advantage in this type of project, I
was not planning on using EJB.
But would they offer advantages?
In case I can do without - do you have any recommendation as for container,
frameworks, tools?
Thanks
Matt
 

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Matthias,

Matthias Klein wrote:
 As I am starting a new project, I am unsure whether to use Tomcat/Axis 
 or the Jboss product line. Any idea?

Do you need EJBs? If you do, then you'll need JBoss.

If you don't need EJBs, I would recommend not using a full EJB server.

- -chris

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RE: Distributed web services: Tomcat or Jboss?

2007-09-18 Thread Matthias Klein
Good points, thanks
 

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Mattias,

Matthias Klein wrote:
 Unless EJB would provide a significant advantage in this type of 
 project, I was not planning on using EJB.
 But would they offer advantages?

I personally dislike EJBs, but my experience was a long time ago...
perhaps things have improved.

 In case I can do without - do you have any recommendation as for 
 container, frameworks, tools?

I believe JBoss uses Tomcat as the servlet container, so JBoss basically
builds on Tomcat to provide and EJB container, MQ-style messaging, and
(probably) SOAP services (possibly even using AXIS).

If I were doing it, I'd stick to Tomcat, but that's mostly because I know it
best. I can configure Tomcat to do exactly what I want and add services
(such as AXIS) as needed, rather than removing them which is what I imagine
you'd have to do with JBoss.

It just seems that JBoss offers many services you don't need, so why bother
with the added complexity?

- -chris

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Re: Distributed web services: Tomcat or Jboss?

2007-09-18 Thread Christopher Schultz
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Mattias,

Matthias Klein wrote:
 Unless EJB would provide a significant advantage in this type of project, I
 was not planning on using EJB.
 But would they offer advantages?

I personally dislike EJBs, but my experience was a long time ago...
perhaps things have improved.

 In case I can do without - do you have any recommendation as for container,
 frameworks, tools?

I believe JBoss uses Tomcat as the servlet container, so JBoss basically
builds on Tomcat to provide and EJB container, MQ-style messaging, and
(probably) SOAP services (possibly even using AXIS).

If I were doing it, I'd stick to Tomcat, but that's mostly because I
know it best. I can configure Tomcat to do exactly what I want and add
services (such as AXIS) as needed, rather than removing them which is
what I imagine you'd have to do with JBoss.

It just seems that JBoss offers many services you don't need, so why
bother with the added complexity?

- -chris

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Re: Distributed web services: Tomcat or Jboss?

2007-09-18 Thread Nicholas Sushkin
Also check out Glassfish/OpenESB/Netbeans. Sun just released Netbeans 6 beta 
1 and Glassfish v2.

http://open-esb.dev.java.net/

On Tuesday 18 September 2007, Christopher Schultz wrote: 

 Matthias,

 Matthias Klein wrote:
  As I am starting a new project, I am unsure whether to use Tomcat/Axis
  or the Jboss product line. Any idea?

 Do you need EJBs? If you do, then you'll need JBoss.

 If you don't need EJBs, I would recommend not using a full EJB server.

 -chris

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Nicholas Sushkin, Senior Software Engineer
http://www.openfinance.com http://www.wealthinformationexchange.com


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