Re: confusion of tomcat downloading

2005-12-01 Thread Tim Funk

Tomcat behind Apache. A PHP parser in java would be a non-trivial exercise.

-Tim

Seak, Teng-Fong wrote:


Caldarale, Charles R wrote:



If JSP and PHP are to be suppoerted in a server, what would
everybody suggest?  Tomcat behind Apache?  Or a PHP parser module
(probably written in Java) running inside Tomcat?



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Re: confusion of tomcat downloading

2005-11-30 Thread Seak, Teng-Fong
Caldarale, Charles R wrote:

>>From: blueberry lake [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
>>Subject: Re: confusion of tomcat downloading
>>
>>Someone told me before that combine apache and tomcat 
>>together and run tomcat behind apahce can kind of 
>>improve the security of the website.
>>
>>
>
>Urban legend, partly based on people generally being more familiar with
>httpd than they are with Tomcat.  There's nothing intrinsically more
>secure about one or the other.  There has been some discussion of this
>on the mailing list in the past; you can check the archives for more
>info.
>
> - Chuck
>  
>
If JSP and PHP are to be suppoerted in a server, what would
everybody suggest?  Tomcat behind Apache?  Or a PHP parser module
(probably written in Java) running inside Tomcat?

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Re: confusion of tomcat downloading

2005-11-30 Thread Mark Thomas

blueberry lake wrote:

On page http://tomcat.apache.org/download-55.cgi, there are several choices
for tomcat 5.x, like core, deployer, embedded, admin web application, etc.,
can anyone explain berifly what their difference are?
Thanks.



There is a read me file right above the downloads links on the 5.5.x 
downloads page that answers this very question.


Mark


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RE: confusion of tomcat downloading

2005-11-30 Thread Caldarale, Charles R
> From: blueberry lake [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Subject: Re: confusion of tomcat downloading
> 
> Someone told me before that combine apache and tomcat 
> together and run tomcat behind apahce can kind of 
> improve the security of the website.

Urban legend, partly based on people generally being more familiar with
httpd than they are with Tomcat.  There's nothing intrinsically more
secure about one or the other.  There has been some discussion of this
on the mailing list in the past; you can check the archives for more
info.

 - Chuck


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Re: confusion of tomcat downloading

2005-11-30 Thread blueberry lake
Someone told me before that combine apache and tomcat together and run
tomcat behind apahce can kind of improve the security of the website. That's
the reason I want to connectted tomcat and apache with mod_jk together.
(unfortunately, the connected system does not work quite right.)

But when I read some articles about apache and tomcat, it seems that the
connected system is mainly focus on load balance. If tha'ts the reason,
maybe I can just go with tomcat standalone since it always works great for
me.

Thanks.

-b

On 11/30/05, Caldarale, Charles R <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> > From: blueberry lake [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Re: confusion of tomcat downloading
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> > I downloaded tomcat for unix, and want it to run inside apache.
>
> To repeat: Tomcat does not run _inside_ Apache httpd, but it can be
> configured to work with httpd as a front-end using the AJP13 connector.
> But unless you're doing load balancing or some such, why do you think
> you want httpd?
>
> - Chuck
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RE: confusion of tomcat downloading

2005-11-30 Thread Caldarale, Charles R
> From: blueberry lake [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Subject: Re: confusion of tomcat downloading
> 
> I downloaded tomcat for unix, and want it to run inside apache.

To repeat: Tomcat does not run _inside_ Apache httpd, but it can be
configured to work with httpd as a front-end using the AJP13 connector.
But unless you're doing load balancing or some such, why do you think
you want httpd?

 - Chuck


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Re: confusion of tomcat downloading

2005-11-30 Thread blueberry lake
I downloaded tomcat for unix, and want it to run inside apache.
It seems I should go with the core version.


On 11/29/05, Scott Purcell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> What OS are you wanting to install Tomcat on?
> And did you want to just run Tomcat Standalone, or put it inside Apache?
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> On page http://tomcat.apache.org/download-55.cgi, there are several
> choices
> for tomcat 5.x, like core, deployer, embedded, admin web application,
> etc.,
> can anyone explain berifly what their difference are?
> Thanks.
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RE: confusion of tomcat downloading

2005-11-29 Thread Caldarale, Charles R
> From: blueberry lake [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Subject: confusion of tomcat downloading
> 
> On page http://tomcat.apache.org/download-55.cgi, there are 
> several choices for tomcat 5.x, like core, deployer, embedded,
> admin web application, etc.,
> can anyone explain berifly what their difference are?

Core is the primary Tomcat download.  Beware of the .exe version, since
it does not include the various scripts that a beginner should start
with; the .exe installs only as a Windows service.  Better to get the
.zip or .tar.gz, as appropriate - I believe they're identical other than
the archive format, but I haven't verified that lately.  You used to
have to use the GNU tar utility for the latter form, but I don't know if
that's still true.

Deployer is a utility application that supposedly simplifies webapp
deployment; can't say that I've ever used it.  You can read about it
here:
http://tomcat.apache.org/tomcat-5.5-doc/deployer-howto.html
at the bottom of the page.

Embedded is a Tomcat variation that lets you bury Tomcat inside another
app; JBoss uses this format.  It is not for use with Apache httpd, as an
earlier posting might have implied.  If you're going to front-end Tomcat
with httpd, use the core download.  (Tomcat performance in handling
static content is getting very close to that of httpd, so there are few
reasons to complicate your life by front-ending it these days.)

The admin webapp is quite useful for poking around inside Tomcat from a
web browser, so by all means pick that up.  Just unzip (or untar) into
the Tomcat installation directory, update the conf/tomcat-users.xml
file, and play.

The compatibility package is required if you're going to run Tomcat with
a 1.4 JRE or JDK.  Contains a couple of jars with classes for XML
processing that are standard with the 1.5 JRE, but have to be added on
to 1.4 environments.

The documentation download is what it is.

 - Chuck


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Re: confusion of tomcat downloading

2005-11-29 Thread Scott Purcell
What OS are you wanting to install Tomcat on?
And did you want to just run Tomcat Standalone, or put it inside Apache?


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On page http://tomcat.apache.org/download-55.cgi, there are several choices
for tomcat 5.x, like core, deployer, embedded, admin web application, etc.,
can anyone explain berifly what their difference are?
Thanks.


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