Re: [OT] Running as user tomcat [authbind]

2018-02-26 Thread tomcat

Hi.

On 26.02.2018 15:59, Christopher Schultz wrote:

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Coty and André,

On 2/23/18 6:58 PM, Coty Sutherland wrote:

Also see https://bz.apache.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=60560 :)
I've been planning to push a solution for that, just haven't gotten
around to it yet.

On Fri, Feb 23, 2018 at 5:34 PM, André Warnier (tomcat)
 wrote:

On 23.02.2018 23:32, André Warnier (tomcat) wrote:


On 23.02.2018 18:52, Peter@Kreuser-Online wrote:


Hi Chris,




Am 23.02.2018 um 18:36 schrieb Cheltenham, Chris
:

Hello All,

I am trying to run tomcat as a non root user.

It will start as the tomcat user but it will not bind to
connector 443 unless it starts as root.

Does anyone know why?



Unix will not let you open ports below 1024 as non-root
user!

You may use a proxy in front of it or maybe use iptables to
be able to use standard ports AND user tomcat.



See also :
https://commons.apache.org/proper/commons-daemon/jsvc.html



Or if you are running under Linux, check :
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Authbind


I'm curious ... can authbind be used to *restrict* processes as well
as to grant them access? For example, let's say that I want Tomcat to
be able to bind to port 8080, it generally will be able to do that
unless some other process has bound already. But let's say I
specifically DO NOT want Tomcat to be able to bind to port 8443. Can I
use authbind to set a blacklist of ports, too? Or, can I blacklist
everything and set up a whitelist that contains only port 8080?



I don't really know the specifics of authbind, just that recent Debian Linux versions seem 
to automatically use it to run their pre-packaged Tomcat (I believe that previously, they 
used jsvc).

There is information available here :
https://manpages.debian.org/testing/authbind/authbind.1.en.html
which seems to indicate that indeed it seems to allow the kind of things which you mention 
above.
Should you not have access to a Linux Debain/Ubuntu system right now, I can also send you 
a sample /etc/init.d startup script for Tomcat (using authbind) (but presumably directly, 
as the list does not really like attachments)




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Re: [OT] Running as user tomcat [authbind]

2018-02-26 Thread Coty Sutherland
On Mon, Feb 26, 2018 at 9:59 AM, Christopher Schultz
 wrote:
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> Coty and André,
>
> On 2/23/18 6:58 PM, Coty Sutherland wrote:
>> Also see https://bz.apache.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=60560 :)
>> I've been planning to push a solution for that, just haven't gotten
>> around to it yet.
>>
>> On Fri, Feb 23, 2018 at 5:34 PM, André Warnier (tomcat)
>>  wrote:
>>> On 23.02.2018 23:32, André Warnier (tomcat) wrote:

 On 23.02.2018 18:52, Peter@Kreuser-Online wrote:
>
> Hi Chris,
>
>
>
>> Am 23.02.2018 um 18:36 schrieb Cheltenham, Chris
>> :
>>
>> Hello All,
>>
>> I am trying to run tomcat as a non root user.
>>
>> It will start as the tomcat user but it will not bind to
>> connector 443 unless it starts as root.
>>
>> Does anyone know why?
>
>
> Unix will not let you open ports below 1024 as non-root
> user!
>
> You may use a proxy in front of it or maybe use iptables to
> be able to use standard ports AND user tomcat.


 See also :
 https://commons.apache.org/proper/commons-daemon/jsvc.html
>>>
>>>
>>> Or if you are running under Linux, check :
>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Authbind
>
> I'm curious ... can authbind be used to *restrict* processes as well
> as to grant them access? For example, let's say that I want Tomcat to
> be able to bind to port 8080, it generally will be able to do that
> unless some other process has bound already. But let's say I
> specifically DO NOT want Tomcat to be able to bind to port 8443. Can I
> use authbind to set a blacklist of ports, too? Or, can I blacklist
> everything and set up a whitelist that contains only port 8080?

I'm not sure about authbind, but selinux is effectively a whitelist
which only includes a handful of ports (in http_port_t)...assuming
that it's enabled.

>
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Re: [OT] Running as user tomcat [authbind]

2018-02-26 Thread Christopher Schultz
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Coty and André,

On 2/23/18 6:58 PM, Coty Sutherland wrote:
> Also see https://bz.apache.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=60560 :)
> I've been planning to push a solution for that, just haven't gotten
> around to it yet.
> 
> On Fri, Feb 23, 2018 at 5:34 PM, André Warnier (tomcat)
>  wrote:
>> On 23.02.2018 23:32, André Warnier (tomcat) wrote:
>>> 
>>> On 23.02.2018 18:52, Peter@Kreuser-Online wrote:
 
 Hi Chris,
 
 
 
> Am 23.02.2018 um 18:36 schrieb Cheltenham, Chris 
> :
> 
> Hello All,
> 
> I am trying to run tomcat as a non root user.
> 
> It will start as the tomcat user but it will not bind to
> connector 443 unless it starts as root.
> 
> Does anyone know why?
 
 
 Unix will not let you open ports below 1024 as non-root
 user!
 
 You may use a proxy in front of it or maybe use iptables to
 be able to use standard ports AND user tomcat.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> See also :
>>> https://commons.apache.org/proper/commons-daemon/jsvc.html
>> 
>> 
>> Or if you are running under Linux, check : 
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Authbind

I'm curious ... can authbind be used to *restrict* processes as well
as to grant them access? For example, let's say that I want Tomcat to
be able to bind to port 8080, it generally will be able to do that
unless some other process has bound already. But let's say I
specifically DO NOT want Tomcat to be able to bind to port 8443. Can I
use authbind to set a blacklist of ports, too? Or, can I blacklist
everything and set up a whitelist that contains only port 8080?

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Re: Running as user tomcat

2018-02-23 Thread Coty Sutherland
Also see https://bz.apache.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=60560 :) I've
been planning to push a solution for that, just haven't gotten around
to it yet.

On Fri, Feb 23, 2018 at 5:34 PM, André Warnier (tomcat)  wrote:
> On 23.02.2018 23:32, André Warnier (tomcat) wrote:
>>
>> On 23.02.2018 18:52, Peter@Kreuser-Online wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Chris,
>>>
>>>
>>>
 Am 23.02.2018 um 18:36 schrieb Cheltenham, Chris
 :

 Hello All,

 I am trying to run tomcat as a non root user.

 It will start as the tomcat user but it will not bind to connector 443
 unless it starts
 as root.

 Does anyone know why?
>>>
>>>
>>> Unix will not let you open ports below 1024 as non-root user!
>>>
>>> You may use a proxy in front of it or maybe use iptables to be able to
>>> use standard
>>> ports AND user tomcat.
>>
>>
>> See also : https://commons.apache.org/proper/commons-daemon/jsvc.html
>
>
> Or if you are running under Linux, check :
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Authbind
>
>
>
>>
>>>
 23-Feb-2018 09:14:59.140 SEVERE [main]
 org.apache.catalina.core.StandardService.initInternal Failed to
 initialize connector
 [Connector[HTTP/1.1-443]]
 org.apache.catalina.LifecycleException: Failed to initialize component
 [Connector[HTTP/1.1-443]]

 I’m using java 9.0.4 and Tomcat 8.5.28


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 Thank You;

 Chris Cheltenham
 Technology Services
 The School District of Philadelphia

 Work # 215-400-5025
 Cell # 215-301-6571
>>>
>>>
>>> Best regards
>>>
>>> Peter
>>>
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Re: Running as user tomcat

2018-02-23 Thread tomcat

On 23.02.2018 23:32, André Warnier (tomcat) wrote:

On 23.02.2018 18:52, Peter@Kreuser-Online wrote:

Hi Chris,




Am 23.02.2018 um 18:36 schrieb Cheltenham, Chris :

Hello All,

I am trying to run tomcat as a non root user.

It will start as the tomcat user but it will not bind to connector 443 unless 
it starts
as root.

Does anyone know why?


Unix will not let you open ports below 1024 as non-root user!

You may use a proxy in front of it or maybe use iptables to be able to use 
standard
ports AND user tomcat.


See also : https://commons.apache.org/proper/commons-daemon/jsvc.html


Or if you are running under Linux, check : 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Authbind







23-Feb-2018 09:14:59.140 SEVERE [main]
org.apache.catalina.core.StandardService.initInternal Failed to initialize 
connector
[Connector[HTTP/1.1-443]]
org.apache.catalina.LifecycleException: Failed to initialize component
[Connector[HTTP/1.1-443]]

I’m using java 9.0.4 and Tomcat 8.5.28


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Thank You;

Chris Cheltenham
Technology Services
The School District of Philadelphia

Work # 215-400-5025
Cell # 215-301-6571


Best regards

Peter




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Re: Running as user tomcat

2018-02-23 Thread tomcat

On 23.02.2018 18:52, Peter@Kreuser-Online wrote:

Hi Chris,




Am 23.02.2018 um 18:36 schrieb Cheltenham, Chris :

Hello All,

I am trying to run tomcat as a non root user.

It will start as the tomcat user but it will not bind to connector 443 unless 
it starts as root.

Does anyone know why?


Unix will not let you open ports below 1024 as non-root user!

You may use a proxy in front of it or maybe use iptables to be able to use 
standard ports AND user tomcat.


See also : https://commons.apache.org/proper/commons-daemon/jsvc.html




23-Feb-2018 09:14:59.140 SEVERE [main] 
org.apache.catalina.core.StandardService.initInternal Failed to initialize 
connector [Connector[HTTP/1.1-443]]
org.apache.catalina.LifecycleException: Failed to initialize component 
[Connector[HTTP/1.1-443]]

I’m using java 9.0.4 and Tomcat 8.5.28


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Thank You;

Chris Cheltenham
Technology Services
The School District of Philadelphia

Work # 215-400-5025
Cell # 215-301-6571


Best regards

Peter




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RE: Running as user tomcat

2018-02-23 Thread Cheltenham, Chris
YES! Thank you.

I forgot about that.



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From: Peter@Kreuser-Online [mailto:l...@kreuser.name]
Sent: Friday, February 23, 2018 12:53 PM
To: Tomcat Users List 
Subject: Re: Running as user tomcat

Hi Chris,



> Am 23.02.2018 um 18:36 schrieb Cheltenham, Chris 
> :
>
> Hello All,
>
> I am trying to run tomcat as a non root user.
>
> It will start as the tomcat user but it will not bind to connector 443 
> unless it starts as root.
>
> Does anyone know why?

Unix will not let you open ports below 1024 as non-root user!

You may use a proxy in front of it or maybe use iptables to be able to use 
standard ports AND user tomcat.

> 23-Feb-2018 09:14:59.140 SEVERE [main] 
> org.apache.catalina.core.StandardService.initInternal Failed to initialize 
> connector [Connector[HTTP/1.1-443]]
> org.apache.catalina.LifecycleException: Failed to initialize component 
> [Connector[HTTP/1.1-443]]
>
> I’m using java 9.0.4 and Tomcat 8.5.28
>
>
> ===
>
> Thank You;
>
> Chris Cheltenham
> Technology Services
> The School District of Philadelphia
>
> Work # 215-400-5025
> Cell # 215-301-6571

Best regards

Peter

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RE: Running as user tomcat

2018-02-23 Thread Caldarale, Charles R
> From: Peter@Kreuser-Online [mailto:l...@kreuser.name] 
> Subject: Re: Running as user tomcat

> Am 23.02.2018 um 18:36 schrieb Cheltenham, Chris
:

> > I am trying to run tomcat as a non root user.
 
> > It will start as the tomcat user but it will not bind to connector 443
unless it starts as root.

> Unix will not let you open ports below 1024 as non-root user!

> You may use a proxy in front of it or maybe use iptables to be able to use
standard ports AND user tomcat.

And definitely read the wiki entry about this, before doing anything else:
https://wiki.apache.org/tomcat/HowTo#How_to_run_Tomcat_without_root_privileg
es.3F

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Re: Running as user tomcat

2018-02-23 Thread Peter@Kreuser-Online
Hi Chris,



> Am 23.02.2018 um 18:36 schrieb Cheltenham, Chris 
> :
> 
> Hello All,
>  
> I am trying to run tomcat as a non root user.
>  
> It will start as the tomcat user but it will not bind to connector 443 unless 
> it starts as root.
>  
> Does anyone know why?

Unix will not let you open ports below 1024 as non-root user!

You may use a proxy in front of it or maybe use iptables to be able to use 
standard ports AND user tomcat.

> 23-Feb-2018 09:14:59.140 SEVERE [main] 
> org.apache.catalina.core.StandardService.initInternal Failed to initialize 
> connector [Connector[HTTP/1.1-443]]
> org.apache.catalina.LifecycleException: Failed to initialize component 
> [Connector[HTTP/1.1-443]]
>  
> I’m using java 9.0.4 and Tomcat 8.5.28
>  
>  
> ===
> 
> Thank You;
> 
> Chris Cheltenham
> Technology Services
> The School District of Philadelphia
> 
> Work # 215-400-5025
> Cell # 215-301-6571

Best regards

Peter

Running as user tomcat

2018-02-23 Thread Cheltenham, Chris


Hello All,

 

I am trying to run tomcat as a non root user.

 

It will start as the tomcat user but it will not bind to connector 443
unless it starts as root.

 

Does anyone know why?

 

23-Feb-2018 09:14:59.140 SEVERE [main]
org.apache.catalina.core.StandardService.initInternal Failed to initialize
connector [Connector[HTTP/1.1-443]]

org.apache.catalina.LifecycleException: Failed to initialize component
[Connector[HTTP/1.1-443]]

 

I'm using java 9.0.4 and Tomcat 8.5.28

 

 

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Chris Cheltenham
Technology Services
The School District of Philadelphia

Work # 215-400-5025
Cell # 215-301-6571