Re: Scripting Tomcat installation versus multiple instances

2014-03-27 Thread Christopher Schultz
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André,

On 3/26/14, 3:35 PM, André Warnier wrote:
 Despite your name, you are too quick (and not lazy enough). You
 could have waited an hour, to get that solution right here. ;-)

Please don't top-post.

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Re: Scripting Tomcat installation versus multiple instances

2014-03-27 Thread Christopher Schultz
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David,

On 3/26/14, 3:35 PM, David kerber wrote:
 On 3/26/2014 3:25 PM, André Warnier wrote:
 Leo Donahue wrote:
 On Wed, Mar 26, 2014 at 11:32 AM, Sebastien Tardif  
 sebastien.tardif.contrac...@gmo.com wrote:
 
 I'm confused by the commands given by Tomcat documentation
 about creating different instances, it says: service install
 instance1 but service is not a command provided by Tomcat
 or Windows, see 
 http://tomcat.apache.org/tomcat-7.0-doc/windows-service-howto.html#Multiple_Instances




 
Almost everything I'm trying to automate using that page is not
 working, maybe it's rare people automate installation on
 Windows?
 
 
 The service command is located here:
 \apache-tomcat-7.0.52\bin
 
 change directories to this location and run that command.
 
 
 Maybe also the OP did not download the correct package to have
 that command. For some reason which is still mysterious to me,
 the Service Installer package does not contain all the files
 which the ZIP package contains. And bin/service.bat is probably
 among the ones missing.
 
 Yes, it is.  When I am setting up a new install, I do the windows 
 install and then unzip the .zip package on top of it, so I have all
 the .bat files as well.  I don't fully automate my installations,
 but I do some scripting to make it easier to be consistent with my
 naming and configuration.

https://issues.apache.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=56323

Vote for it.

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Re: {OT] Scripting Tomcat installation versus multiple instances

2014-03-27 Thread André Warnier

Christopher Schultz wrote:

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André,

On 3/26/14, 3:35 PM, André Warnier wrote:

Despite your name, you are too quick (and not lazy enough). You
could have waited an hour, to get that solution right here. ;-)


Please don't top-post.

- -chris

(Sorry... just had to do that)


Well, you top-post all the time !
(see above)


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Re: {OT] Scripting Tomcat installation versus multiple instances

2014-03-27 Thread Christopher Schultz
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André,

On 3/27/14, 12:13 PM, André Warnier wrote:
 Christopher Schultz wrote:
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 André,
 
 On 3/26/14, 3:35 PM, André Warnier wrote:
 Despite your name, you are too quick (and not lazy enough).
 You could have waited an hour, to get that solution right here.
 ;-)
 
 Please don't top-post.
 
 - -chris
 
 (Sorry... just had to do that)
 
 Well, you top-post all the time ! (see above)

Do I?

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Re: Scripting Tomcat installation versus multiple instances

2014-03-27 Thread David kerber

On 3/27/2014 12:11 PM, Christopher Schultz wrote:

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David,



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Yes, it is.  When I am setting up a new install, I do the windows
install and then unzip the .zip package on top of it, so I have all
the .bat files as well.  I don't fully automate my installations,
but I do some scripting to make it easier to be consistent with my
naming and configuration.


https://issues.apache.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=56323

Vote for it.


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Scripting Tomcat installation versus multiple instances

2014-03-26 Thread Sebastien Tardif
I'm confused by the commands given by Tomcat documentation about creating 
different instances, it says: service install instance1 but service is not 
a command provided by Tomcat or Windows, see 
http://tomcat.apache.org/tomcat-7.0-doc/windows-service-howto.html#Multiple_Instances

Almost everything I'm trying to automate using that page is not working, maybe 
it's rare people automate installation on Windows?


Re: Scripting Tomcat installation versus multiple instances

2014-03-26 Thread Leo Donahue
On Wed, Mar 26, 2014 at 11:32 AM, Sebastien Tardif 
sebastien.tardif.contrac...@gmo.com wrote:

 I'm confused by the commands given by Tomcat documentation about creating
 different instances, it says: service install instance1 but service is
 not a command provided by Tomcat or Windows, see
 http://tomcat.apache.org/tomcat-7.0-doc/windows-service-howto.html#Multiple_Instances

 Almost everything I'm trying to automate using that page is not working,
 maybe it's rare people automate installation on Windows?


The service command is located here:  \apache-tomcat-7.0.52\bin

change directories to this location and run that command.


RE: Scripting Tomcat installation versus multiple instances

2014-03-26 Thread Sebastien Tardif
Ok, I got it.

When I installed Tomcat on Windows, I used the Windows Service Installer, the 
executable, not the zip.

It seems the installation will rename the executables to whatever name you give 
to your instance, but that executable can be used like service.bat for that 
command. The executables are renamed so that when you execute them they default 
to match the Windows service with the same name.

Also, the same Tomcat documentation mentions a batch file called service.bat, 
that file doesn't exist in the executable installer but does exists in the zip 
file for Windows.

To debug installation of Tomcat's services, it's useful to know that the 
registry location that persist all the settings is under: 
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Wow6432Node\Apache Software Foundation\Procrun 2.0

-Original Message-
From: Leo Donahue [mailto:donahu...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2014 2:54 PM
To: Tomcat Users List
Subject: Re: Scripting Tomcat installation versus multiple instances

On Wed, Mar 26, 2014 at 11:32 AM, Sebastien Tardif  
sebastien.tardif.contrac...@gmo.com wrote:

 I'm confused by the commands given by Tomcat documentation about 
 creating different instances, it says: service install instance1 but 
 service is not a command provided by Tomcat or Windows, see 
 http://tomcat.apache.org/tomcat-7.0-doc/windows-service-howto.html#Mul
 tiple_Instances

 Almost everything I'm trying to automate using that page is not 
 working, maybe it's rare people automate installation on Windows?


The service command is located here:  \apache-tomcat-7.0.52\bin

change directories to this location and run that command.

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Re: Scripting Tomcat installation versus multiple instances

2014-03-26 Thread André Warnier

Leo Donahue wrote:

On Wed, Mar 26, 2014 at 11:32 AM, Sebastien Tardif 
sebastien.tardif.contrac...@gmo.com wrote:


I'm confused by the commands given by Tomcat documentation about creating
different instances, it says: service install instance1 but service is
not a command provided by Tomcat or Windows, see
http://tomcat.apache.org/tomcat-7.0-doc/windows-service-howto.html#Multiple_Instances

Almost everything I'm trying to automate using that page is not working,
maybe it's rare people automate installation on Windows?



The service command is located here:  \apache-tomcat-7.0.52\bin

change directories to this location and run that command.



Maybe also the OP did not download the correct package to have that command.
For some reason which is still mysterious to me, the Service Installer package does not 
contain all the files which the ZIP package contains.

And bin/service.bat is probably among the ones missing.


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Re: Scripting Tomcat installation versus multiple instances

2014-03-26 Thread David kerber

On 3/26/2014 3:25 PM, André Warnier wrote:

Leo Donahue wrote:

On Wed, Mar 26, 2014 at 11:32 AM, Sebastien Tardif 
sebastien.tardif.contrac...@gmo.com wrote:


I'm confused by the commands given by Tomcat documentation about
creating
different instances, it says: service install instance1 but
service is
not a command provided by Tomcat or Windows, see
http://tomcat.apache.org/tomcat-7.0-doc/windows-service-howto.html#Multiple_Instances


Almost everything I'm trying to automate using that page is not working,
maybe it's rare people automate installation on Windows?



The service command is located here:  \apache-tomcat-7.0.52\bin

change directories to this location and run that command.



Maybe also the OP did not download the correct package to have that
command.
For some reason which is still mysterious to me, the Service Installer
package does not contain all the files which the ZIP package contains.
And bin/service.bat is probably among the ones missing.


Yes, it is.  When I am setting up a new install, I do the windows 
install and then unzip the .zip package on top of it, so I have all the 
.bat files as well.  I don't fully automate my installations, but I do 
some scripting to make it easier to be consistent with my naming and 
configuration.




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Re: Scripting Tomcat installation versus multiple instances

2014-03-26 Thread André Warnier

Despite your name, you are too quick (and not lazy enough).
You could have waited an hour, to get that solution right here.
;-)

Sebastien Tardif wrote:

Ok, I got it.

When I installed Tomcat on Windows, I used the Windows Service Installer, the 
executable, not the zip.

It seems the installation will rename the executables to whatever name you give 
to your instance, but that executable can be used like service.bat for that 
command. The executables are renamed so that when you execute them they default 
to match the Windows service with the same name.

Also, the same Tomcat documentation mentions a batch file called service.bat, 
that file doesn't exist in the executable installer but does exists in the zip 
file for Windows.

To debug installation of Tomcat's services, it's useful to know that the 
registry location that persist all the settings is under: 
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Wow6432Node\Apache Software Foundation\Procrun 2.0

-Original Message-
From: Leo Donahue [mailto:donahu...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2014 2:54 PM

To: Tomcat Users List
Subject: Re: Scripting Tomcat installation versus multiple instances

On Wed, Mar 26, 2014 at 11:32 AM, Sebastien Tardif  
sebastien.tardif.contrac...@gmo.com wrote:

I'm confused by the commands given by Tomcat documentation about 
creating different instances, it says: service install instance1 but 
service is not a command provided by Tomcat or Windows, see 
http://tomcat.apache.org/tomcat-7.0-doc/windows-service-howto.html#Mul

tiple_Instances

Almost everything I'm trying to automate using that page is not 
working, maybe it's rare people automate installation on Windows?




The service command is located here:  \apache-tomcat-7.0.52\bin

change directories to this location and run that command.

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Re: Scripting Tomcat installation versus multiple instances

2014-03-26 Thread Leo Donahue
On Wed, Mar 26, 2014 at 12:35 PM, André Warnier a...@ice-sa.com wrote:

 Despite your name, you are too quick (and not lazy enough).
 You could have waited an hour, to get that solution right here.
 ;-)


 Sebastien Tardif wrote:


 Oh no you didn't, just top post. ?


Re: [OT] Scripting Tomcat installation versus multiple instances

2014-03-26 Thread André Warnier

Leo Donahue wrote:

On Wed, Mar 26, 2014 at 12:35 PM, André Warnier a...@ice-sa.com wrote:


Despite your name, you are too quick (and not lazy enough).
You could have waited an hour, to get that solution right here.
;-)


Sebastien Tardif wrote:


Oh no you didn't, just top post. ?




Well, you see, it's all about the context.
It's a rather subtle thing really, and one needs a bit of feeling to do this 
just right.

If you are answering some particular question in the original text, or you are commenting 
on a particular section, then it makes it much easier for everyone (or at least Western 
readers), if you keep questions and answers in sequence.


See Mark's previous post in Re: tomcat 5.5.26 misses a jar contaning 
org.apache.tomcat.core.BaseInterceptor . . .

and imagine this all top-posted..

However, if you were to make a general comment or observation not really related to any 
section in particular, but to the message as a whole, then why not place it where it is 
easiest to read without scrolling ?


Now let's not allow this to spread unduly; I suggest that only long-time contributors to 
the list (3 years or more), would have the proper appreciation and restraint to be allowed 
to flaunt the general rules once in a while.





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RE: Scripting Tomcat installation versus multiple instances

2014-03-26 Thread Jeffrey Janner
 -Original Message-
 From: David kerber [mailto:dcker...@verizon.net]
 Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2014 2:35 PM
 To: Tomcat Users List
 Subject: Re: Scripting Tomcat installation versus multiple instances
 
 On 3/26/2014 3:25 PM, André Warnier wrote:
  Leo Donahue wrote:
  On Wed, Mar 26, 2014 at 11:32 AM, Sebastien Tardif 
  sebastien.tardif.contrac...@gmo.com wrote:
 
  I'm confused by the commands given by Tomcat documentation about
  creating different instances, it says: service install instance1
  but service is not a command provided by Tomcat or Windows, see
  http://tomcat.apache.org/tomcat-7.0-doc/windows-service-
 howto.html#M
  ultiple_Instances
 
 
  Almost everything I'm trying to automate using that page is not
  working, maybe it's rare people automate installation on Windows?
 
 
  The service command is located here:  \apache-tomcat-7.0.52\bin
 
  change directories to this location and run that command.
 
 
  Maybe also the OP did not download the correct package to have that
  command.
  For some reason which is still mysterious to me, the Service
 Installer
  package does not contain all the files which the ZIP package
 contains.
  And bin/service.bat is probably among the ones missing.
 
 Yes, it is.  When I am setting up a new install, I do the windows
 install and then unzip the .zip package on top of it, so I have all the
 .bat files as well.  I don't fully automate my installations, but I do
 some scripting to make it easier to be consistent with my naming and
 configuration.
 

I've found with the Windows service installer that I've never needed the *.bat 
files that come with the zip file.
However, one thing I'm not sure about is if the WSI has a -silent mode.  It 
would be great if it did.  It really would help out in scripting the install as 
part of another install, etc.


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