Tomcat installation/deployment question

2008-01-24 Thread Sureka, Sushil



Hi,
 
We are intending to deploy our application on individual laptops
(to be used by field personnel who does not have internet connectivity
to connect to our central server). The idea is that a trimmed down
version of our core application will be deployed on individual laptops
running tomcat against a light weight Sybase database.
 
I wanted to see if you had any suggestions about - 
1. How best to deploy the initial version (5.5) of Tomcat on
individual machines  - We understand our options are Microsoft SMS, Java
Web Start application, shell script or Ant script to install Tomcat on
these laptop boxes. We are leaning towards Microsoft SMS since 
(a) It can easily mass deploy the app to hundreds of machine
(b) It is currently used in our organization to deploy some asp
application. 
If you believe there are downsides to this approach or other
approaches are better please let me know
 
2. How best to deploy the upgraded version (6.x or higher) - We
potentially could use the same approach as the first one, but wanted to
see if the opinion differs.
 
3. And finally the rollout of initial app and upgraded app
version. Again probably use the same approach as before but wanted to
throw this out there in case there are better ideas.
 
Please let me know your thoughts on this.
 
Sushil



Re: Tomcat installation/deployment question

2008-01-24 Thread Gabe Wong

Sureka, Sushil wrote:


Hi,
	 
	We are intending to deploy our application on individual laptops

(to be used by field personnel who does not have internet connectivity
to connect to our central server). The idea is that a trimmed down
version of our core application will be deployed on individual laptops
running tomcat against a light weight Sybase database.
	 
	I wanted to see if you had any suggestions about - 
	1. How best to deploy the initial version (5.5) of Tomcat on

individual machines  - We understand our options are Microsoft SMS, Java
Web Start application, shell script or Ant script to install Tomcat on
these laptop boxes. We are leaning towards Microsoft SMS since 
	(a) It can easily mass deploy the app to hundreds of machine

(b) It is currently used in our organization to deploy some asp
application. 
	If you believe there are downsides to this approach or other

approaches are better please let me know
	 
	2. How best to deploy the upgraded version (6.x or higher) - We

potentially could use the same approach as the first one, but wanted to
see if the opinion differs.
	 
	3. And finally the rollout of initial app and upgraded app

version. Again probably use the same approach as before but wanted to
throw this out there in case there are better ideas.
	 
	Please let me know your thoughts on this.
	 
	Sushil



  

Sushil,

The Laptops I presume will be running Windows? If so which version(s)?


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RE: Tomcat installation/deployment question

2008-01-24 Thread Sureka, Sushil
XP but there is no guarantee that they won't go to Vista in a year
timeframe.

Sushil 

 -Original Message-
 From: Gabe Wong [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2008 11:54 AM
 To: Tomcat Users List
 Subject: Re: Tomcat installation/deployment question
 
 Sureka, Sushil wrote:
 
  Hi,
   
  We are intending to deploy our application on 
 individual laptops (to 
  be used by field personnel who does not have internet 
 connectivity to 
  connect to our central server). The idea is that a trimmed down 
  version of our core application will be deployed on 
 individual laptops 
  running tomcat against a light weight Sybase database.
   
  I wanted to see if you had any suggestions about - 
  1. How best to deploy the initial version (5.5) of Tomcat on 
  individual machines  - We understand our options are Microsoft SMS, 
  Java Web Start application, shell script or Ant script to install 
  Tomcat on these laptop boxes. We are leaning towards 
 Microsoft SMS since
  (a) It can easily mass deploy the app to hundreds of machine
  (b) It is currently used in our organization to deploy some asp 
  application.
  If you believe there are downsides to this approach or other 
  approaches are better please let me know
   
  2. How best to deploy the upgraded version (6.x or higher) - We 
  potentially could use the same approach as the first one, 
 but wanted 
  to see if the opinion differs.
   
  3. And finally the rollout of initial app and upgraded 
 app version. 
  Again probably use the same approach as before but wanted to throw 
  this out there in case there are better ideas.
   
  Please let me know your thoughts on this.
   
  Sushil
 
 

 Sushil,
 
 The Laptops I presume will be running Windows? If so which version(s)?
 
 
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Re: Tomcat installation/deployment question

2008-01-24 Thread Martin Gainty
possibly better off with a server offering as specified in documentation
http://people.apache.org/~mturk/docs/article/ftwai.html
For non server products like Windows 2000 Professional or Windows XP the
number of concurrent connections is limited to 10. This mean that you can
not use workstation products for production servers unless the 10
connections limit will fulfil your needs. 

M-
- Original Message -
From: Sureka, Sushil [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Tomcat Users List users@tomcat.apache.org
Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2008 1:00 PM
Subject: RE: Tomcat installation/deployment question


XP but there is no guarantee that they won't go to Vista in a year
timeframe.

Sushil

 -Original Message-
 From: Gabe Wong [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2008 11:54 AM
 To: Tomcat Users List
 Subject: Re: Tomcat installation/deployment question

 Sureka, Sushil wrote:
 
  Hi,
 
  We are intending to deploy our application on
 individual laptops (to
  be used by field personnel who does not have internet
 connectivity to
  connect to our central server). The idea is that a trimmed down
  version of our core application will be deployed on
 individual laptops
  running tomcat against a light weight Sybase database.
 
  I wanted to see if you had any suggestions about -
  1. How best to deploy the initial version (5.5) of Tomcat on
  individual machines  - We understand our options are Microsoft SMS,
  Java Web Start application, shell script or Ant script to install
  Tomcat on these laptop boxes. We are leaning towards
 Microsoft SMS since
  (a) It can easily mass deploy the app to hundreds of machine
  (b) It is currently used in our organization to deploy some asp
  application.
  If you believe there are downsides to this approach or other
  approaches are better please let me know
 
  2. How best to deploy the upgraded version (6.x or higher) - We
  potentially could use the same approach as the first one,
 but wanted
  to see if the opinion differs.
 
  3. And finally the rollout of initial app and upgraded
 app version.
  Again probably use the same approach as before but wanted to throw
  this out there in case there are better ideas.
 
  Please let me know your thoughts on this.
 
  Sushil
 
 
 
 Sushil,

 The Laptops I presume will be running Windows? If so which version(s)?


 --
 Regards

 Gabe Wong
 NGASI AppServer Manager
 JAVA AUTOMATION and SaaS Enablement
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 NEW! 8.0 - Centrally manage multiple physical servers


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RE: Tomcat installation/deployment question

2008-01-24 Thread Sureka, Sushil
Well we are not intending to use laptops to server multiple user. The
idea is that the user who is logged in on the laptop would just work
locally, when disconnected from network, and then we would synch  up the
database running on laptop with the central database.  

 -Original Message-
 From: Martin Gainty [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2008 1:31 PM
 To: Tomcat Users List
 Subject: Re: Tomcat installation/deployment question
 
 possibly better off with a server offering as specified in 
 documentation http://people.apache.org/~mturk/docs/article/ftwai.html
 For non server products like Windows 2000 Professional or 
 Windows XP the number of concurrent connections is limited to 
 10. This mean that you can not use workstation products for 
 production servers unless the 10 connections limit will 
 fulfil your needs. 
 
 M-
 - Original Message -
 From: Sureka, Sushil [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Tomcat Users List users@tomcat.apache.org
 Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2008 1:00 PM
 Subject: RE: Tomcat installation/deployment question
 
 
 XP but there is no guarantee that they won't go to Vista in a 
 year timeframe.
 
 Sushil
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Gabe Wong [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2008 11:54 AM
  To: Tomcat Users List
  Subject: Re: Tomcat installation/deployment question
 
  Sureka, Sushil wrote:
  
   Hi,
  
   We are intending to deploy our application on
  individual laptops (to
   be used by field personnel who does not have internet
  connectivity to
   connect to our central server). The idea is that a trimmed down 
   version of our core application will be deployed on
  individual laptops
   running tomcat against a light weight Sybase database.
  
   I wanted to see if you had any suggestions about - 1. How best to 
   deploy the initial version (5.5) of Tomcat on individual 
 machines  - 
   We understand our options are Microsoft SMS, Java Web Start 
   application, shell script or Ant script to install Tomcat 
 on these 
   laptop boxes. We are leaning towards
  Microsoft SMS since
   (a) It can easily mass deploy the app to hundreds of machine
   (b) It is currently used in our organization to deploy some asp 
   application.
   If you believe there are downsides to this approach or other 
   approaches are better please let me know
  
   2. How best to deploy the upgraded version (6.x or higher) - We 
   potentially could use the same approach as the first one,
  but wanted
   to see if the opinion differs.
  
   3. And finally the rollout of initial app and upgraded
  app version.
   Again probably use the same approach as before but wanted 
 to throw 
   this out there in case there are better ideas.
  
   Please let me know your thoughts on this.
  
   Sushil
  
  
  
  Sushil,
 
  The Laptops I presume will be running Windows? If so which 
 version(s)?
 
 
  --
  Regards
 
  Gabe Wong
  NGASI AppServer Manager
  JAVA AUTOMATION and SaaS Enablement
  a href=http://www.ngasi.comhttp://www.ngasi.com/a
  NEW! 8.0 - Centrally manage multiple physical servers
 
 
  
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Re: Tomcat installation/deployment question

2008-01-24 Thread David Brown
Hello Sushil, IMHO: ANT 1.7 has much improved deployment features in the area 
of remote distributed deployments.

Sureka, Sushil wrote ..
 
 
 
   Hi,

   We are intending to deploy our application on individual laptops
 (to be used by field personnel who does not have internet connectivity
 to connect to our central server). The idea is that a trimmed down
 version of our core application will be deployed on individual laptops
 running tomcat against a light weight Sybase database.

   I wanted to see if you had any suggestions about - 
   1. How best to deploy the initial version (5.5) of Tomcat on
 individual machines  - We understand our options are Microsoft SMS, Java
 Web Start application, shell script or Ant script to install Tomcat on
 these laptop boxes. We are leaning towards Microsoft SMS since 
   (a) It can easily mass deploy the app to hundreds of machine
   (b) It is currently used in our organization to deploy some asp
 application. 
   If you believe there are downsides to this approach or other
 approaches are better please let me know

   2. How best to deploy the upgraded version (6.x or higher) - We
 potentially could use the same approach as the first one, but wanted to
 see if the opinion differs.

   3. And finally the rollout of initial app and upgraded app
 version. Again probably use the same approach as before but wanted to
 throw this out there in case there are better ideas.

   Please let me know your thoughts on this.

   Sushil

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Re: Tomcat installation/deployment question

2008-01-24 Thread Martin Gainty
you can install a server product (2003) on a laptop which has the requisite
chip characteristics/sufficient ram (4gb)/sufficient diskspace(.25 tera) and
sufficient clockspeed (in other words server hardware characteristics) to
support that server

Databases:
You can configure your connection-string to point to the remote DB server
and remote DBname which has a DBlistener installed e.g.

private static Driver c_Driver = null;
private static final String c_sDefaultDriverName =
oracle.jdbc.driver.OracleDriver,
private static final String  c_sDefaultDBURL =
jdbc:oracle:thin:@host:Port:DBName,

try {
c_Driver = (Driver)Class.forName(
c_sDriverName ).newInstance();
}
catch ( ClassNotFoundException cex )
{
}

//set your properties here and then connect with the provided URL
connection-string
   c_Driver.connect( c_sDBURL, props );


- Original Message -
From: Sureka, Sushil [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Tomcat Users List users@tomcat.apache.org
Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2008 2:39 PM
Subject: RE: Tomcat installation/deployment question


Well we are not intending to use laptops to server multiple user. The
idea is that the user who is logged in on the laptop would just work
locally, when disconnected from network, and then we would synch  up the
database running on laptop with the central database.

 -Original Message-
 From: Martin Gainty [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2008 1:31 PM
 To: Tomcat Users List
 Subject: Re: Tomcat installation/deployment question

 possibly better off with a server offering as specified in
 documentation http://people.apache.org/~mturk/docs/article/ftwai.html
 For non server products like Windows 2000 Professional or
 Windows XP the number of concurrent connections is limited to
 10. This mean that you can not use workstation products for
 production servers unless the 10 connections limit will
 fulfil your needs. 

 M-
 - Original Message -
 From: Sureka, Sushil [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Tomcat Users List users@tomcat.apache.org
 Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2008 1:00 PM
 Subject: RE: Tomcat installation/deployment question


 XP but there is no guarantee that they won't go to Vista in a
 year timeframe.

 Sushil

  -Original Message-
  From: Gabe Wong [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2008 11:54 AM
  To: Tomcat Users List
  Subject: Re: Tomcat installation/deployment question
 
  Sureka, Sushil wrote:
  
   Hi,
  
   We are intending to deploy our application on
  individual laptops (to
   be used by field personnel who does not have internet
  connectivity to
   connect to our central server). The idea is that a trimmed down
   version of our core application will be deployed on
  individual laptops
   running tomcat against a light weight Sybase database.
  
   I wanted to see if you had any suggestions about - 1. How best to
   deploy the initial version (5.5) of Tomcat on individual
 machines  -
   We understand our options are Microsoft SMS, Java Web Start
   application, shell script or Ant script to install Tomcat
 on these
   laptop boxes. We are leaning towards
  Microsoft SMS since
   (a) It can easily mass deploy the app to hundreds of machine
   (b) It is currently used in our organization to deploy some asp
   application.
   If you believe there are downsides to this approach or other
   approaches are better please let me know
  
   2. How best to deploy the upgraded version (6.x or higher) - We
   potentially could use the same approach as the first one,
  but wanted
   to see if the opinion differs.
  
   3. And finally the rollout of initial app and upgraded
  app version.
   Again probably use the same approach as before but wanted
 to throw
   this out there in case there are better ideas.
  
   Please let me know your thoughts on this.
  
   Sushil
  
  
  
  Sushil,
 
  The Laptops I presume will be running Windows? If so which
 version(s)?
 
 
  --
  Regards
 
  Gabe Wong
  NGASI AppServer Manager
  JAVA AUTOMATION and SaaS Enablement
  a href=http://www.ngasi.comhttp://www.ngasi.com/a
  NEW! 8.0 - Centrally manage multiple physical servers
 
 
 
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RE: Tomcat installation/deployment question

2008-01-24 Thread Sureka, Sushil
Martin, thanks for the advise. We are already decided to move forward
with the decision to deploy on individual laptops. So yes we will have
sufficient hardware on laptop.

The question, what is the best way to put the tomcat installation and
upgrades, application installation and upgrades on the server. In other
words, question is not if, but how

Sushil

 -Original Message-
 From: Martin Gainty [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2008 2:21 PM
 To: Tomcat Users List
 Subject: Re: Tomcat installation/deployment question
 
 you can install a server product (2003) on a laptop which has 
 the requisite chip characteristics/sufficient ram 
 (4gb)/sufficient diskspace(.25 tera) and sufficient 
 clockspeed (in other words server hardware characteristics) 
 to support that server
 
 Databases:
 You can configure your connection-string to point to the 
 remote DB server and remote DBname which has a DBlistener 
 installed e.g.
 
 private static Driver c_Driver = null;
 private static final String c_sDefaultDriverName = 
 oracle.jdbc.driver.OracleDriver,
 private static final String  c_sDefaultDBURL = 
 jdbc:oracle:thin:@host:Port:DBName,
 
 try {
 c_Driver = (Driver)Class.forName( 
 c_sDriverName ).newInstance();
 }
 catch ( ClassNotFoundException cex )
 {
 }
 
 //set your properties here and then connect with the provided 
 URL connection-string
c_Driver.connect( c_sDBURL, props );
 
 
 - Original Message -
 From: Sureka, Sushil [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Tomcat Users List users@tomcat.apache.org
 Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2008 2:39 PM
 Subject: RE: Tomcat installation/deployment question
 
 
 Well we are not intending to use laptops to server multiple 
 user. The idea is that the user who is logged in on the 
 laptop would just work locally, when disconnected from 
 network, and then we would synch  up the database running on 
 laptop with the central database.
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Martin Gainty [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2008 1:31 PM
  To: Tomcat Users List
  Subject: Re: Tomcat installation/deployment question
 
  possibly better off with a server offering as specified in 
  documentation 
 http://people.apache.org/~mturk/docs/article/ftwai.html
  For non server products like Windows 2000 Professional or 
 Windows XP 
  the number of concurrent connections is limited to 10. This 
 mean that 
  you can not use workstation products for production servers 
 unless the 
  10 connections limit will fulfil your needs. 
 
  M-
  - Original Message -
  From: Sureka, Sushil [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: Tomcat Users List users@tomcat.apache.org
  Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2008 1:00 PM
  Subject: RE: Tomcat installation/deployment question
 
 
  XP but there is no guarantee that they won't go to Vista in a year 
  timeframe.
 
  Sushil
 
   -Original Message-
   From: Gabe Wong [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2008 11:54 AM
   To: Tomcat Users List
   Subject: Re: Tomcat installation/deployment question
  
   Sureka, Sushil wrote:
   
Hi,
   
We are intending to deploy our application on
   individual laptops (to
be used by field personnel who does not have internet
   connectivity to
connect to our central server). The idea is that a trimmed down 
version of our core application will be deployed on
   individual laptops
running tomcat against a light weight Sybase database.
   
I wanted to see if you had any suggestions about - 1. 
 How best to 
deploy the initial version (5.5) of Tomcat on individual
  machines  -
We understand our options are Microsoft SMS, Java Web Start 
application, shell script or Ant script to install Tomcat
  on these
laptop boxes. We are leaning towards
   Microsoft SMS since
(a) It can easily mass deploy the app to hundreds of machine
(b) It is currently used in our organization to deploy some asp 
application.
If you believe there are downsides to this approach or other 
approaches are better please let me know
   
2. How best to deploy the upgraded version (6.x or higher) - We 
potentially could use the same approach as the first one,
   but wanted
to see if the opinion differs.
   
3. And finally the rollout of initial app and upgraded
   app version.
Again probably use the same approach as before but wanted
  to throw
this out there in case there are better ideas.
   
Please let me know your thoughts on this.
   
Sushil
   
   
   
   Sushil,
  
   The Laptops I presume will be running Windows? If so which
  version(s)?
  
  
   --
   Regards
  
   Gabe Wong
   NGASI AppServer Manager
   JAVA AUTOMATION and SaaS Enablement
   a href=http://www.ngasi.comhttp://www.ngasi.com/a
   NEW! 8.0 - Centrally manage multiple physical servers