Re: WebApps sharing uploaded files

2011-10-05 Thread Léa Massiot


chris wrote:
 
 Be careful: if you undeploy the webapp, you will have all those files
 deleted by Tomcat.
 
Ok. Thank you!

André wrote:
 
 Thanks. Seen.  Lea, do you follow ? 
 
Yes, thanks!

Ok. 
I do not properly understand the doc.:
http://tomcat.apache.org/tomcat-7.0-doc/config/context.html

1) aliases is an attribute. Is it an attribute of the Context element?

2) I have a context.xml file in META-INF in both w1 and w2. I have
tried:

2.A) context.xml

?xml version='1.0' encoding='utf-8'?
Context aliases=/attachments=C:\somewhere_1\somewhere_2\somewhere_3
  [...]
/Context

2.B) I've created a foo.txt file in the directory
C:\somewhere_1\somewhere_2\somewhere_3\

2.C) test_download.html

html
  head
titleTest download/title
  /head
  body
 /attachments/foo.txt Foo.txt 
  /body
/html

When I click the link, I get a 404 error:

HTTP Status 404 - /attachments/foo.txt
type Status report
message /attachments/foo.txt
description The requested resource (/attachments/foo.txt) is not available.

What am I doing wrong?

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Re: WebApps sharing uploaded files

2011-10-05 Thread Léa Massiot

Hello.
Ok. I found what I was doing wrong and corrected my mistake:
added /w1 at the beginning of the href attribute value. See below:

2.C) test_download.html

html
  head
titleTest download/title
  /head
  body
 /w1/attachments/foo.txt Foo.txt 
  /body
/html

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Re: WebApps sharing uploaded files

2011-10-05 Thread Léa Massiot

Hello.
Ok. I found what I was doing wrong and corrected my mistake:
added /w1 at the beginning of the href attribute value. See below:

2.C) test_download.html

html
  head
titleTest download/title
  /head
  body
 /w1/attachments/foo.txt Foo.txt 
  /body
/html

Now it works!
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Re: WebApps sharing uploaded files

2011-10-05 Thread Léa Massiot

Hello.
Ok. I found what I was doing wrong and corrected my mistake:
added /w1 at the beginning of the href attribute value. See below:

2.C) test_download.html

html
  head
titleTest download/title
  /head
  body
 /w1/attachments/foo.txt Foo.txt 
  /body
/html

Now it works!
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Re: WebApps sharing uploaded files

2011-10-04 Thread Léa Massiot

Hello André,

 Do you mean that you are going to create a new JSP for every new file
 someone may ever upload?
No...

 Or do they always upload the same file f.txt? 
No...

I understand your being puzzled... my bad:
the example I posted is oversimple but it works if tested!

In reality, the c:choose is dynamic in the JSPs:
it is part of a loop which loops through a dynamic list of attachments.

And yes you're right, contrary to my original description,
there is not a unique uf directory storing both the attachments of w1
and those of w2.
Some attachments are in w1\uf1, all the others are in w2\uf2 (it's a
partition).

That solution is quite good because:
- there are no file duplicates,
- the JSPs are the same,
- I just need a switch inside of them to pick the attachments in the right
directory according to a test.
What's interesting is that, in the same servlets container, one WebApp has
access to another WebApp through /w1/uf1/f.txt /w2/uf2/f.txt type of
addressing.

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Re: WebApps sharing uploaded files

2011-10-04 Thread Léa Massiot

Hello André,

 Do you mean that you are going to create a new JSP for every new file
 someone may ever upload?
No...

 Or do they always upload the same file f.txt? 
No...

I understand your being puzzled... my bad:
the example I posted is oversimple but it works if tested!

In reality, the c:choose is dynamic in the JSPs:
it is part of a loop which loops through a dynamic list of attachments.

And yes you're right, contrary to my original description,
there is not a unique uf directory storing both the attachments of w1
and those of w2.
Some attachments are in w1\uf1, all the others are in w2\uf2 (it's a
partition).

That solution is quite good because:
- there are no file duplicates,
- the JSPs are the same,
- I just need a switch inside of them to pick the attachments in the right
directory according to a test.
What's interesting is that, in the same servlets container, one WebApp has
access to another WebApp through /w1/uf1/f.txt /w2/uf2/f.txt type of
addressing.

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Re: WebApps sharing uploaded files

2011-10-04 Thread André Warnier

Léa Massiot wrote:
...


What's interesting is that, in the same servlets container, one WebApp has
access to another WebApp through /w1/uf1/f.txt /w2/uf2/f.txt type of
addressing.


That's only because you look at it the wrong way.
It is not that one webapp has access to another webapp, it is that the user's browser 
has (apparently) access to both webapps.
By the time one of these links gets used, it is because the html page is loaded by the 
user's browser, the user clicks on one of the links, and the browser sends a new request 
to the server.  What happens then is only a matter of the server deciding if this request, 
coming from that browser connection, is allowed to access the requested resource.
If you add an authentication requirement in one of these webapps, and not in the other, 
you will see the difference.



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Re: WebApps sharing uploaded files

2011-10-04 Thread Christopher Schultz
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Léa,

On 9/30/2011 2:37 PM, Léa Massiot wrote:
 o I have two WebApps w1 and w2 (under the Tomcat webapps
 directory). o Both w1 and w2 contain (at least) a JSP which
 allows to upload files to the server. o Presently, the uploaded
 files are stored: - in the w1\uf1\ directory for w1, - in the
 w2\uf2\ directory for w2.

Be careful: if you undeploy the webapp, you will have all those files
deleted by Tomcat.

I highly recommend that you place your upload directory or
directories safely /outside/ of Tomcat's webapps directory to avoid
any possibility of Tomcat deleting those files.

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Re: WebApps sharing uploaded files

2011-10-04 Thread André Warnier

Christopher Schultz wrote:

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Léa,

On 9/30/2011 2:37 PM, Léa Massiot wrote:

o I have two WebApps w1 and w2 (under the Tomcat webapps
directory). o Both w1 and w2 contain (at least) a JSP which
allows to upload files to the server. o Presently, the uploaded
files are stored: - in the w1\uf1\ directory for w1, - in the
w2\uf2\ directory for w2.


Be careful: if you undeploy the webapp, you will have all those files
deleted by Tomcat.

I highly recommend that you place your upload directory or
directories safely /outside/ of Tomcat's webapps directory to avoid
any possibility of Tomcat deleting those files.


Right. But then, Lea's simple scheme for download will stop working.
Damn..

Or, wasn't there a possibility to place a symlink within the webapps dir, and have Tomcat 
/not/ following it when undeploying ? Or was that precisely the catch, that it always does ?


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Re: WebApps sharing uploaded files

2011-10-04 Thread Christopher Schultz
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André,

On 10/4/2011 1:31 PM, André Warnier wrote:
 Or, wasn't there a possibility to place a symlink within the
 webapps dir, and have Tomcat /not/ following it when undeploying ?
 Or was that precisely the catch, that it always does ?

Look for aliases:
http://tomcat.apache.org/tomcat-7.0-doc/config/context.html

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Re: WebApps sharing uploaded files

2011-10-04 Thread André Warnier

Christopher Schultz wrote:

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André,

On 10/4/2011 1:31 PM, André Warnier wrote:

Or, wasn't there a possibility to place a symlink within the
webapps dir, and have Tomcat /not/ following it when undeploying ?
Or was that precisely the catch, that it always does ?


Look for aliases:
http://tomcat.apache.org/tomcat-7.0-doc/config/context.html


Thanks. Seen.  Lea, do you follow ?

By the way, in that same page, the next item is :

quote

allowLinking

If the value of this flag is true, symlinks will be allowed inside the web application, 
pointing to resources outside the web application base path. If not specified, the default 
value of the flag is false.


NOTE: This flag MUST NOT be set to true on the Windows platform (or any other OS which 
does not have a case sensitive filesystem), as it will disable case sensitivity checks, 
allowing JSP source code disclosure, among other security problems.


unquote

Is this second paragraph really well-placed there ?
Does allowLinking really influence case-sensitivity ?


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Re: WebApps sharing uploaded files

2011-10-04 Thread Christopher Schultz
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André,

On 10/4/2011 1:56 PM, André Warnier wrote:
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 allowLinking
 
 If the value of this flag is true, symlinks will be allowed inside
 the web application, pointing to resources outside the web
 application base path. If not specified, the default value of the
 flag is false.
 
 NOTE: This flag MUST NOT be set to true on the Windows platform (or
 any other OS which does not have a case sensitive filesystem), as
 it will disable case sensitivity checks, allowing JSP source code
 disclosure, among other security problems.
 
 unquote
 
 Is this second paragraph really well-placed there ? Does
 allowLinking really influence case-sensitivity ?

I'm not sure. I think, on Windows, links (like My Link.lnk) need to
be processed separately, and, of course, case cannot be considered
significant on FAT and NTFS. There are other kinds of symlinks (not
My Link.lnk) available on NTFS, but I'm not sure of their semantics.

Also note that allowLinking can cause problems with Tomcat's
slash-and-burn policy when undeploying webapps on *NIX (and possibly
on Windows as well).

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Re: WebApps sharing uploaded files

2011-10-04 Thread markt
André Warnier a...@ice-sa.com wrote:

Christopher Schultz wrote:
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 André,
 
 On 10/4/2011 1:31 PM, André Warnier wrote:
 Or, wasn't there a possibility to place a symlink within the
 webapps dir, and have Tomcat /not/ following it when undeploying ?
 Or was that precisely the catch, that it always does ?
 
 Look for aliases:
 http://tomcat.apache.org/tomcat-7.0-doc/config/context.html
 
Thanks. Seen.  Lea, do you follow ?

By the way, in that same page, the next item is :

quote

allowLinking   

If the value of this flag is true, symlinks will be allowed inside the
web application, 
pointing to resources outside the web application base path. If not
specified, the default 
value of the flag is false.

NOTE: This flag MUST NOT be set to true on the Windows platform (or any
other OS which 
does not have a case sensitive filesystem), as it will disable case
sensitivity checks, 
allowing JSP source code disclosure, among other security problems.

unquote

Is this second paragraph really well-placed there ?

Yes.

Does allowLinking really influence case-sensitivity ?

Yes.

Mark





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Re: WebApps sharing uploaded files

2011-10-03 Thread Léa Massiot

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Thank you for all these useful advices.
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Re: WebApps sharing uploaded files

2011-10-03 Thread Léa Massiot

Hello,

I solved my problem:
1) in WebApp w1, upload files to the directory w1\uf1\,
2) in WebApp w2, upload files to the directory w1\uf2\,
3) then you can have the same JSP foo.jsp for both WebApps.
Put one JSP in w1 and another one in w2.
The JSP itself contains a switch:

c:choose
c:when test=a_test
 a href=/w1/uf1/f.txtLink 1/ a
/c:when
c:otherwise
 a href=/w2/uf2/f.txtLink 2/ a
/c:otherwise
/c:choose


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Re: WebApps sharing uploaded files

2011-10-03 Thread Tim Watts
It does? Doesn't that mean you have two distinct copies of f.txt? I
thought that's what you were trying to avoid. Or are uf1 and uf2 aliases
for the same directory? Or was your goal really to have one JSP that
would work in w1 and w2?


On Mon, 2011-10-03 at 10:15 -0700, Léa Massiot wrote:
 Hello,
 
 I solved my problem:
 1) in WebApp w1, upload files to the directory w1\uf1\,
 2) in WebApp w2, upload files to the directory w1\uf2\,
 3) then you can have the same JSP foo.jsp for both WebApps.
 Put one JSP in w1 and another one in w2.
 The JSP itself contains a switch:
 
 c:choose
   c:when test=a_test
a href=/w1/uf1/f.txtLink 1/ a
   /c:when
   c:otherwise
a href=/w2/uf2/f.txtLink 2/ a
   /c:otherwise
 /c:choose
 
 
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Re: WebApps sharing uploaded files

2011-10-03 Thread Léa Massiot

Hello Tim,
Ok.
- I have only one copy of f.txt.
- uf1 and uf2 are two distinct directories, the first in w1, the
second in w2.
- I have one JSP (same code) but two copies of it, the first in w1, the
second in w2.
f.txt either lives under uf1 xor uf2.
Maybe I'm not clear enough... but that's basically what I was trying to
do...
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Re: WebApps sharing uploaded files

2011-10-03 Thread André Warnier

Léa Massiot wrote:

Hello,

I solved my problem:
1) in WebApp w1, upload files to the directory w1\uf1\,
2) in WebApp w2, upload files to the directory w1\uf2\,
3) then you can have the same JSP foo.jsp for both WebApps.
Put one JSP in w1 and another one in w2.
The JSP itself contains a switch:

c:choose
c:when test=a_test
 a href=/w1/uf1/f.txtLink 1/ a
/c:when
c:otherwise
 a href=/w2/uf2/f.txtLink 2/ a
/c:otherwise
/c:choose


From your original description (post of 30/09) I am a bit puzzled as to how this resolves 
your problem.  Do you mean that you are going to create a new JSP for every new file 
someone may ever upload ? Or do they always upload the same file f.txt ?



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Re: WebApps sharing uploaded files

2011-10-01 Thread Léa Massiot

Hello André,

Thank you for your answer.

awarnier wrote:
 
 You can define uf wherever you want, as long as Tomcat (and the
 applications 
 which run under it, like your JSPs) has write access to it.
 

Actually, I already noticed and tried that and my first question is closely
linked to my second question about hrefs... (Questions 1) and 2) aren't
really two separate questions.)

Thank you for your two interesting suggestions:
- creating some kind of downloader servlet,
- WebDAV which I know nothing about.

This is not an academic project.
I just made a schematic picture of the situation.

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Re: WebApps sharing uploaded files

2011-10-01 Thread André Warnier

Léa Massiot wrote:

Hello André,

Thank you for your answer.

awarnier wrote:

You can define uf wherever you want, as long as Tomcat (and the
applications 
which run under it, like your JSPs) has write access to it.




Actually, I already noticed and tried that and my first question is closely
linked to my second question about hrefs... (Questions 1) and 2) aren't
really two separate questions.)

Thank you for your two interesting suggestions:
- creating some kind of downloader servlet,
- WebDAV which I know nothing about.

This is not an academic project.
I just made a schematic picture of the situation.


Ok. Then,

- DAV is a protocol (an extension to HTTP) which allows a client to upload and download 
files to/from a webserver (and also browse webserver directories) over a HTTP connection. 
 There are DAV clients available for most platforms (Windows, Mac,..).  Under Windows, 
what MS calls web folders is a DAV client integrated in the Windows (disk) Explorer.


- before inventing your own scheme, look around to see if there are not already 
applications which do that.  It is more complex than you may think, and there is no need 
to re-invent the wheel.


If you provide some additional details about what your application is supposed to do, 
maybe someone here can orient you to some existing application.


If you insist in creating your own application to do this, then a couple of 
basic notes :

Think first about security.  You are going to allow people to write to your server's 
disks, so be careful.  Everything a client sends should be considered as suspect until 
proven otherwise.

For example :
- Force clients to authenticate before they can upload files, and log what they 
do.
- Do not allow a client to upload files to your server wherever it wants.  For example, if 
the client can specify the filename, don't allow them to specify things like 
../../../etc/passwd.
- Do not use the filename supplied by the client as a part of any command that you run on 
the server, unless you are /absolutely/ sure that it is only an innocent filename.
- Upload the files to a location where Tomcat has read/write access, and /only/ Tomcat has 
access.
- Make sure that there is no way that anyone can tell any program on your server to 
/execute/ any uploaded file.
- better: do not use the filename that clients specify, as the filename under which you 
really write the file on the server.  First, people give all kinds of silly names to 
files, including spaces and other characters that can give you problems (think  |   
e.g.).  Second, people will use the same name for different files, and you'll end up 
overwriting stuff.
So on the server side, create your own naming scheme, and some mechanism to associate what 
the client specifies as a name, with the name you are creating on the server.
(Of course then, you may also need to provide a special servlet to allow people to browse 
files, and another one to allow them to delete files).
- set some limit to the size of files that anyone can upload.  Otherwise it will not take 
long before someone paralyses your server (maliciously or not).
- filter the /type/ of file that clients can upload. Be restrictive : forbid everything 
/except/ the types you allow, and not the opposite.



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WebApps sharing uploaded files

2011-09-30 Thread Léa Massiot

Hello,

Thank you for reading my post.

o I have two WebApps w1 and w2 (under the Tomcat webapps directory).
o Both w1 and w2 contain (at least) a JSP which allows to upload files
to the server.
o Presently, the uploaded files are stored:
- in the w1\uf1\ directory for w1,
- in the w2\uf2\ directory for w2.
(So: each WebApp has its own directory for uploaded files storage).
= I need the two Webapps to store their uploaded files in the same
directory, say uf.

Let's say that: 
- we have created uf somewhere (where?),
- uf contains a successfully uploaded file f.txt,
- I have a JSP foo_1.jsp in w1 and a JSP foo_2.jsp in w2.

I'd like:
- to put an anchor in foo_1.jsp which links to f.txt.
--
 a href=?_1/f.txtLink 1/ a
--
- to put an anchor in foo_2.jsp which links to f.txt.
--
 a href=?_2/f.txtLink 2/ a
--
(I want the files to open properly when the each link is clicked).

1) If it's possible, where shall I create uf?
2) What shall I replace ?_1 and the ?_2 with in the href anchor
properties?

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Re: WebApps sharing uploaded files

2011-09-30 Thread André Warnier

Léa Massiot wrote:

Hello,

Thank you for reading my post.

o I have two WebApps w1 and w2 (under the Tomcat webapps directory).
o Both w1 and w2 contain (at least) a JSP which allows to upload files
to the server.
o Presently, the uploaded files are stored:
- in the w1\uf1\ directory for w1,
- in the w2\uf2\ directory for w2.
(So: each WebApp has its own directory for uploaded files storage).
= I need the two Webapps to store their uploaded files in the same
directory, say uf.

Let's say that: 
- we have created uf somewhere (where?),


You can define uf wherever you want, as long as Tomcat (and the applications which run 
under it, like your JSPs) has write access to it.



- uf contains a successfully uploaded file f.txt,
- I have a JSP foo_1.jsp in w1 and a JSP foo_2.jsp in w2.

I'd like:
- to put an anchor in foo_1.jsp which links to f.txt.
--
 a href=?_1/f.txtLink 1/ a
--
- to put an anchor in foo_2.jsp which links to f.txt.
--
 a href=?_2/f.txtLink 2/ a
--
(I want the files to open properly when the each link is clicked).


Then you should probably create another JSP/servlet, whose role is to download the 
requested file to the browser, and which is called with the file name as an query 
parameter.  It can then read the file wherever uf is, and return it to the browser.


Now unless this is a purely academic project to learn about webservers and/or Tomcat, the 
whole thing sounds a bit over-simple, and does not take into account a lot of dangerous 
aspects of this kind of application.


And if it is not purely an academic project, I would recommend having a look at the WebDAV 
application, which may be what you are looking for.


I wish I could give you a pointer to some documentation about that application, but I 
can't seem to be able to locate it on the Tomcat website.



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