RE: Re: Re: Re: First Day Disgust!
All the opinions above are my own; not the wicket community, not the developers of wicket. I really, really wish that users of open source software would show more respect to the developers who put so much time and effort into the products that those users use, however. I second this. Again, I'd like to express my thanks to all the Wicket devs for such a great framework, and all the great help and patience they consistently show on this list. Cheers to you all! - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Re: Re: Re: First Day Disgust!
It will Igor, just go on ... Robo - Originálna Správa - Od: \Igor Vaynberg\ Komu: Poslaná: 08.09.2007 23:46 Predmet: Re: Re: Re: First Day Disgust! i would if that made any sense... -igor On 08 Sep 2007 22:52:05 +0200 (CEST), Robo wrote: Sorry Igor. I pack wicket app, simple wicket demo app, very well in WAR layout. If I`m not right please point me to point where wicket app border is extending WAR layout border. Robo __ http://www.tahaj.sk - Stiahnite si najnovsie verzie vasich oblubenych programov - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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May be a little bit of respect and honesty to wicket newcomers, and also understand why there are their needs and be abowe the matter , would help you ... Yet another useless atack ... teacher ... - Originálna Správa - Od: \Igor Vaynberg\ Komu: Poslaná: 08.09.2007 23:49 Predmet: Re: Re: Re: First Day Disgust! http://www.boingboing.net/2007/08/20/flowchart-is-it-fcke.html ^ somehow seems appropriate to this thread -igor __ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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also, demos come in many fashions, the starter demo for an eclipse user differs from a netbeans user and differs from a maven user or notepad/vi/command line user various demos to serve various build or IDE enviroment. it may not be helpful when a maven only developer is trying to show a NB only developer how to write a demo in wicket or otherwise. IMO links to various build envrioments should be made open and am sure sample demo projects are all over the place On 08 Sep 2007 23:00:32 +0200 (CEST), Robo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It will Igor, just go on ... Robo - Originálna Správa - Od: \Igor Vaynberg\ Komu: Poslaná: 08.09.2007 23:46 Predmet: Re: Re: Re: First Day Disgust! i would if that made any sense... -igor On 08 Sep 2007 22:52:05 +0200 (CEST), Robo wrote: Sorry Igor. I pack wicket app, simple wicket demo app, very well in WAR layout. If I`m not right please point me to point where wicket app border is extending WAR layout border. Robo __ http://www.tahaj.sk - Stiahnite si najnovsie verzie vasich oblubenych programov - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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well thats the thing about maven. it generates setups for different ides. so cd wicket mvn eclipse:eclipse - builds eclipse config mvn idea:idea - builds idea config mvn netbeans:netbeans - builds netbeans config after you do that all thats left is to import the created project into the ide. -igor On 9/8/07, Ayodeji Aladejebi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: also, demos come in many fashions, the starter demo for an eclipse user differs from a netbeans user and differs from a maven user or notepad/vi/command line user various demos to serve various build or IDE enviroment. it may not be helpful when a maven only developer is trying to show a NB only developer how to write a demo in wicket or otherwise. IMO links to various build envrioments should be made open and am sure sample demo projects are all over the place On 08 Sep 2007 23:00:32 +0200 (CEST), Robo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It will Igor, just go on ... Robo - Originálna Správa - Od: \Igor Vaynberg\ Komu: Poslaná: 08.09.2007 23:46 Predmet: Re: Re: Re: First Day Disgust! i would if that made any sense... -igor On 08 Sep 2007 22:52:05 +0200 (CEST), Robo wrote: Sorry Igor. I pack wicket app, simple wicket demo app, very well in WAR layout. If I`m not right please point me to point where wicket app border is extending WAR layout border. Robo __ http://www.tahaj.sk - Stiahnite si najnovsie verzie vasich oblubenych programov - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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if you use netbeans 6 you can just open the maven project without even running that netbeans:netbeans command On 9/9/07, Igor Vaynberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: well thats the thing about maven. it generates setups for different ides. so cd wicket mvn eclipse:eclipse - builds eclipse config mvn idea:idea - builds idea config mvn netbeans:netbeans - builds netbeans config after you do that all thats left is to import the created project into the ide. -igor On 9/8/07, Ayodeji Aladejebi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: also, demos come in many fashions, the starter demo for an eclipse user differs from a netbeans user and differs from a maven user or notepad/vi/command line user various demos to serve various build or IDE enviroment. it may not be helpful when a maven only developer is trying to show a NB only developer how to write a demo in wicket or otherwise. IMO links to various build envrioments should be made open and am sure sample demo projects are all over the place On 08 Sep 2007 23:00:32 +0200 (CEST), Robo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It will Igor, just go on ... Robo - Originálna Správa - Od: \Igor Vaynberg\ Komu: Poslaná: 08.09.2007 23:46 Predmet: Re: Re: Re: First Day Disgust! i would if that made any sense... -igor On 08 Sep 2007 22:52:05 +0200 (CEST), Robo wrote: Sorry Igor. I pack wicket app, simple wicket demo app, very well in WAR layout. If I`m not right please point me to point where wicket app border is extending WAR layout border. Robo __ http://www.tahaj.sk - Stiahnite si najnovsie verzie vasich oblubenych programov - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- http://www.somatik.be Microsoft gives you windows, Linux gives you the whole house. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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i was raised on the principle that respect has to be earned, so far you have only done the opposite. a big part of earning respect is shut up or put up, look into it. as far as honesty, i dont think i have been dishonest with you yet. as far as me attacking you, i think you should grow some thicker skin if you think you are under attack. anyways, i think for a while everything from your address will go into my bitbucket, because at this point i see you as nothing but a drain. good day, -igor On 08 Sep 2007 23:07:35 +0200 (CEST), Robo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: May be a little bit of respect and honesty to wicket newcomers, and also understand why there are their needs and be abowe the matter , would help you ... Yet another useless atack ... teacher ... - Originálna Správa - Od: \Igor Vaynberg\ Komu: Poslaná: 08.09.2007 23:49 Predmet: Re: Re: Re: First Day Disgust! http://www.boingboing.net/2007/08/20/flowchart-is-it-fcke.html ^ somehow seems appropriate to this thread -igor __ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On Sat, 2007-09-08 at 23:07 +0200, Robo wrote: May be a little bit of respect and honesty to wicket newcomers, and also understand why there are their needs and be abowe the matter , would help you ... Yet another useless atack ... teacher ... I am not one of the core developers, but have been a member of the wicket community for a long time. I've seen newcomers come and go. First, I'd like to say that this particular newcomer showed very little respect for the developers. The newcomer did not consider the fact that just perhaps the developers knew a tiny bit about what they where doing and that they standardized on maven and the examples layout for a reason. He either did not take the time to read the documentation on the website, or completely misunderstood it. If he did not take the time, then he seems to think that his time is so much more important than theirs that they should code everything up so that it is possible for him to understand how to set up an application in the way that he expects. It doesn't matter much that others understand what we have just fine. It doesn't fit for him, thus it must be broken. If he tried, but did not understand, then why didn't he ask questions about the parts that he didn't understand? Instead, he blasts a lot of criticism over the fence towards the developers that have done a *great* deal of work on a very fine framework. Apparently, people such as he think that the developers' time and effort is limitless and is there to satisfy his own needs. I submit that rather than attacking wicket and the methods of it's developers out of hand, a few well-placed questions surrounding the things that are really giving him trouble would serve him well. Sadly, we can't dump all the knowledge of wicket into someone's head. Any developer wanting to use any framework must invest time into learning how to use it. Wicket is really, really, easy compared to many other frameworks, and IMHO, worth the time and effort. But some effort is required. All the opinions above are my own; not the wicket community, not the developers of wicket. I really, really wish that users of open source software would show more respect to the developers who put so much time and effort into the products that those users use, however. -- Philip A. Chapman Desktop and Web Application Development: Java, .NET, PostgreSQL, MySQL, MSSQL Linux, Windows 2000, Windows XP signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
