Re: [xwiki-users] XWiki Vs. MediaWiki

2008-01-26 Thread ossi petz
hello

well from time to time the http://www.wikimatrix.org/ gives an answer.

i would argue it is first of all a personal opinion. one will find 
multiple wikis that do the job. but only one with a better acceptance 
than others.

in addition it depends into what environment you want to put your wiki 
in. if a lot of things are php based your're better off with media wiki. 
integration into other tools will be easier.
if youre java based xwiki will win the competition. even if php / java 
integration is possible it will be more work.

also mediawiki is not the ultimate solution. the acl capabilities are 
rudimentary. its very unstructured. categories dont help. but it is the 
perfect solution for wikipedia and a lot of other sites. but it is not 
perfect for manuals for software or software projects.

the purpose of xwiki is different (or seems different for me).

regards

ossi



Kamna Jain schrieb:
 Hello again,
 
 Thanks a lot for the reply to my request Vincent.
 I am further encouraged to start using XWiki because of such good 
 participation from all.
 
 Since, I have just started looking at it, I am also concerned about the 
 issues llike how is XWiki different from MediaWiki.
 Why should one choose to use XWiki if there exists a wiki that has been 
 around for a while- like the mediawiki.
 
 No offense meant. I know that this is a second generation wiki and is 
 possibly the best among all of its kind, but, I am just trying to 
 justify myself for choosing XWiki over others :)
 
 Thanks
 
 
 
 
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Re: [xwiki-users] XWiki Vs. MediaWiki

2008-01-26 Thread Paul Libbrecht


Le 26 janv. 08 à 22:30, ossi petz a écrit :

also mediawiki is not the ultimate solution. the acl capabilities are
rudimentary. its very unstructured. categories dont help. but it is  
the

perfect solution for wikipedia and a lot of other sites. but it is not
perfect for manuals for software or software projects.


It is interesting to note that it is not the default mediawiki  
that's used in wikipedia at least for one reason: the search is  
actually lucene based... (at least so it was two years ago) whereas  
that doesn't come out of the box at all in mediawiki.


Having now played with XWiki since a while, I dare say it's a power- 
beast you can do kilometers with, far beyond what I know of MediaWiki  
(i.e. I'd be programming PHP since long there to do the same). With  
the large availability of further libraries in Java, I think XWiki is  
the best choice if you're looking into spending time and extend it a  
lot.


Maybe a few usability things are slightly more polished in MediaWiki  
for its default usage... but as Ossi said, as soon as you wish a bit  
more rights-management, MediaWiki is already difficult to manage  
whereas XWiki starts to be the perfect toy!


paul

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Re: [xwiki-users] Importing .xar in virtual wiki

2008-01-26 Thread Dicheva, Darina


Hi Ricardo,

Thanks so much for your hint re web browsers! Mozilla wasn't installed on the 
web server where I was deploying the wiki, and I used Microsoft IE - obviously 
that caused the problem. I just installed Mozzila and tried again and 
everything worked properly. (I use Tomcat 5.5 and MySQL 5.0) The only problem I 
still have is that the virtual wiki is not visible from outside campus (the 
main wiki is visible), perhaps this is related to the way the network pointer 
has been set by the system admin?

Thanks again!

Darina   


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Subject: Re: [xwiki-users] Importing .xar in virtual wiki

Dicheva, Darina wrote:
 Hello,

 I am trying to install a virtual wiki by following the steps given in
 Creating a virtual XWiki environment - everything worked fine except
 the very last step - for some reason I cannot import the .xar file in
 the virtual wiki. I select it and it appears in the list under Select
 the file you wish to import, but when click on the file name, instead
 of seeing all the objects with the checkboxes, I get an error message
 The page cannot be displayed and in the address of the opened page:
 javascript:void()

 Any idea how to solve this problem? (I had the .xar file successfully
 imported in the main wiki (the controller).

Hi, Darina,

As you know this is a very generic error message, so I think some more 
research is due to see what is happening there.

I can think of:

   1. What XWiki release are you installing? What servlet container? I
  don't know it these could matter here, but it is always useful
  information for people eager to help here!
   2. Could you reimport the .xar file into the controller (just try
  with some documents)?
   3. Does this happens with several web browsers?

HTH,

Ricardo



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