Re: [xwiki-users] Tomcat BSD Nginx

2010-12-11 Thread Eric Tse
I have now installed Nginx and done a proxy through to tomcat, its.. quite..
slow.. IMO, probably cause its Java?
- Eric


On Sat, Dec 11, 2010 at 8:54 AM, Paul Libbrecht p...@hoplahup.net wrote:


 Le 11 déc. 2010 à 04:52, Eric Tse a écrit :

  So based on your experiences, or anyone else's is MySQL better, persay
 vs
  PostgresSQL?

 Tasteful speaking I always preferred Postgres (more strict open-source,
 more sys-admin-oriented) but I know MySQL is more widespread and sometimes
 faster.

  So since tomcat is a httpd server should I still use Ngninx as a proxy?

 The thing is. When you run a product web-site you generally do not want it
 to be run as root or any power user: it should be run as a user that
 barely can do something on the local machine because of the risk to execute
 things. XWiki is an environment where any administrator can execute any
 process very easily.

 In a normal unix environment you would create a user httpd and run the
 web-server with that user.
 Typically, however, the user httpd cannot even login and has no home, the
 servers are started as root than change the user.

 Is your nginx deployment doing all that?
 Apache normal deployments do.

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[xwiki-users] Tomcat BSD Nginx

2010-12-10 Thread Eric Tse
How can I change Tomcat to use port 80 instead of 8180? I tried changing the
connector port in the xml file then restarted but with no avail..

Also is there a benefit from using Nginx to proxy into Tomcat? If so how
would one do that?

Thanks :)
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Re: [xwiki-users] Tomcat BSD Nginx

2010-12-10 Thread Eric Tse
Thanks but I don't plan on using Apache the only thing installed on my BSD
VPS is diablo jdk , tomcat and xwiki. I followed the tutorial on how to
install xwiki on FreeBSD on the dev page of xwiki.  Now that being said,  is
tomcat a httpd server? If not then I'm guessing I have to install nginx and
proxy it to tomcat.
Also since xwiki is java based,  I don't have to install pop? Unless I want
to serve php?
Also how well does PostgresSQL fair in large wikis
On Dec 10, 2010 1:33 PM, Paul Libbrecht p...@hoplahup.net wrote:

 Le 10 déc. 2010 à 21:54, Eric Tse a écrit :

 How can I change Tomcat to use port 80 instead of 8180? I tried changing
the
 connector port in the xml file then restarted but with no avail..

 That's a tomcat question.
 As far as I know you did the right thing.
 Do restart tomcat and don't forget to be root (which is not really
correct).

 Also is there a benefit from using Nginx to proxy into Tomcat? If so how
 would one do that?


 I don't know about Nginx but we generally keep Tomcat on a high port and
keep an Apache httpd on port 80 with a simple proxy. That works very well.
Then only Apache needs root access and the latter takes care of changing the
user after the restart (which no servlet container I know does, it's a
native thing).

 Proxies can become a lot more tuned if using mod_rewrite (e.g. to
guarantee some short URLs in a very very flexible way, allow https, ...).

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Re: [xwiki-users] Tomcat BSD Nginx

2010-12-10 Thread Eric Tse
So based on your experiences, or anyone else's is MySQL better, persay vs
PostgresSQL?

So since tomcat is a httpd server should I still use Ngninx as a proxy?
- Eric


On Fri, Dec 10, 2010 at 2:05 PM, Paul Libbrecht p...@hoplahup.net wrote:


 Le 10 déc. 2010 à 22:40, Eric Tse a écrit :

  Thanks but I don't plan on using Apache the only thing installed on my
 BSD
  VPS is diablo jdk , tomcat and xwiki. I followed the tutorial on how to
  install xwiki on FreeBSD on the dev page of xwiki.  Now that being said,
  is
  tomcat a httpd server?

 It is.

  If not then I'm guessing I have to install nginx and proxy it to tomcat.
  Also since xwiki is java based,  I don't have to install pop?
  Unless I want to serve php?

 XWiki or tomcat are independent of PHP.

  Also how well does PostgresSQL fair in large wikis

 I think it can score well.

 I encountered, however, a few issues while trying to get some applications
 based on xwiki in active use. The generated SQL was incompatible with
 PostgreSQL.

 As a rule of the thumb, I think workability with MySQL is considerably more
 tested.

 paul

  On Dec 10, 2010 1:33 PM, Paul Libbrecht p...@hoplahup.net wrote:
 
  Le 10 déc. 2010 à 21:54, Eric Tse a écrit :
 
  How can I change Tomcat to use port 80 instead of 8180? I tried
 changing
  the
  connector port in the xml file then restarted but with no avail..
 
  That's a tomcat question.
  As far as I know you did the right thing.
  Do restart tomcat and don't forget to be root (which is not really
  correct).
 
  Also is there a benefit from using Nginx to proxy into Tomcat? If so
 how
  would one do that?
 
 
  I don't know about Nginx but we generally keep Tomcat on a high port and
  keep an Apache httpd on port 80 with a simple proxy. That works very
 well.
  Then only Apache needs root access and the latter takes care of changing
 the
  user after the restart (which no servlet container I know does, it's a
  native thing).
 
  Proxies can become a lot more tuned if using mod_rewrite (e.g. to
  guarantee some short URLs in a very very flexible way, allow https, ...).
 
  paul
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[xwiki-users] Nginx and Php-fpm

2010-12-07 Thread Eric Tse
Does anyone how one would install this under Nginx since this uses/wants
Apache/Tomcat?
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Re: [xwiki-users] Trying to find a wiki software

2010-12-06 Thread Eric Tse
Thanks for the help. Will go with Xwiki once I get everything set up :)
- Eric


On Mon, Dec 6, 2010 at 2:06 AM, Vincent Massol vinc...@massol.net wrote:


 On Dec 6, 2010, at 5:12 AM, Eric Tse wrote:

  Cool cool. Am I able to customize it enough so it looks like an actual
  website and not a wiki? (Wikipedia style)

 Yes

 You can also check some screenshots here:
 http://www.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Main/Screenshots

 Thanks
 -Vincent

  - Eric
 
 
  On Sun, Dec 5, 2010 at 3:12 PM, Ricardo Rodriguez [eBioTIC.] 
  ricardo.rodrig...@ebiotic.net wrote:
 
  Hi!
 
  Eric Tse wrote:
  Hey guys, just subscribed to this list.
 
  I'm currently stuck between two softwares: XWiki and Foswiki.
 
  What I'm looking for is:
  Speed/Performance
  Access control (Guests can only read and not modify, certain users can
  modify)
  Good theming/Easy theming.
  An overall good wiki with user-friendly UI.
 
  Foswiki is flatfile and xwiki is SQL based. I hear that SQL is
 generally
  better, is that the case? Foswiki seems to be pretty fast even if it is
  flatfile.
 
  Thanks :)
 
 
 
  XWiki is not only a wiki: it is a complete and powerful Java based
  development framework. I arrived here from MediaWiki looking for access
  management and I found much, much more than this. I think it is worth
  you give it a try! Even more: if after playing for a while in the
  sandbox (http://xoffice.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Sandbox/), or asking
  and using your own wiki in MyWiki community farm or Netcipia, or
  installing your own standalone installation, you know how to set up an
  application server and a supported RDBMS, install and give a try to the
  last snapshot to feel the newest improvements! Don't forget to use the
  Create 200 Dummy Users snippet available at...
 
 
 http://code.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Snippets/Create200DummyUsersSnippet
 
  ... and play for a while with Users and Groups administration. Out of
  the box, XWiki features an amazingly powerful rights management system.
  Of course control who can read or edit a given document of a part of it
  is not a big issue for XWiki administrators.
 
  As for theming. Even though I think teaming is better than theming
  working with XWiki :-) as many other development areas, it has also
  evolved greatly in the last months. Some new concepts has been recently
  introduced, for instance check the Skin Extensions Plugin
  (http://code.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Plugins/SkinExtensionsPlugin).
  Right now is really easy to customized colours and logos, and modify any
  UI characteristic by using Firefox Firebug to track the relevant CSS
  XWiki code. Perhaps if you only look for a classical wiki, theming is
  not the most friendly XWiki feature for you. But don't forget this: it
  is completely scalable, so you should want to forget a bit about theming
  for a while being sure that what you see in our UI is or will be easily
  customizable in a near future.
 
  XWiki is what it reads in its portal's homepage: The XWiki project
  offers both a generic platform for developing collaborative applications
  using the wiki paradigm and products developed on top of it. XWiki
  Enterprise should be the product you are looking for, but this is only
  the top of the iceberg.
 
  I'm not able to compare the use of flat-files vs RDBMS (SQL is just the
  standard language that allows you to query such databases). BUT, once
  again, don't forget that XWiki is more than a wiki. It uses a RDBMS to
  hold a complex object-oriented structure. You can also use its SQL
  plugin to query local or remote RDBMS tables, but also can its API
  methods to design complex queries using HQL (Hibernate Query Language)
  or XWQL (XWiki Query Language)
 
  More: each XWiki document could be considered a database on its own! It
  could be composed of an unlimited number of objects + plain or more or
  less structured text.
 
  Sticks with XWiki and won't only create a classical, fast and full
  featured wiki but discover a full and funny universe of great
  possibilities. And, most important of all: you will meet a great
  community and development team!
 
 
  Just my two cents!
 
  Ricardo
 
  - Eric
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[xwiki-users] Specs

2010-12-06 Thread Eric Tse
What are the recommended specs for a server to run XWiki? I understand this
is quite a vague question as there are many variables to consider. I would
like to run this on a VPS so a general spec would be nice.

Thanks
- Eric
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[xwiki-users] Trying to find a wiki software

2010-12-05 Thread Eric Tse
Hey guys, just subscribed to this list.

I'm currently stuck between two softwares: XWiki and Foswiki.

What I'm looking for is:
Speed/Performance
Access control (Guests can only read and not modify, certain users can
modify)
Good theming/Easy theming.
An overall good wiki with user-friendly UI.

Foswiki is flatfile and xwiki is SQL based. I hear that SQL is generally
better, is that the case? Foswiki seems to be pretty fast even if it is
flatfile.

Thanks :)

- Eric
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Re: [xwiki-users] Trying to find a wiki software

2010-12-05 Thread Eric Tse
Cool cool. Am I able to customize it enough so it looks like an actual
website and not a wiki? (Wikipedia style)
- Eric


On Sun, Dec 5, 2010 at 3:12 PM, Ricardo Rodriguez [eBioTIC.] 
ricardo.rodrig...@ebiotic.net wrote:

 Hi!

 Eric Tse wrote:
  Hey guys, just subscribed to this list.
 
  I'm currently stuck between two softwares: XWiki and Foswiki.
 
  What I'm looking for is:
  Speed/Performance
  Access control (Guests can only read and not modify, certain users can
  modify)
  Good theming/Easy theming.
  An overall good wiki with user-friendly UI.
 
  Foswiki is flatfile and xwiki is SQL based. I hear that SQL is generally
  better, is that the case? Foswiki seems to be pretty fast even if it is
  flatfile.
 
  Thanks :)
 
 

 XWiki is not only a wiki: it is a complete and powerful Java based
 development framework. I arrived here from MediaWiki looking for access
 management and I found much, much more than this. I think it is worth
 you give it a try! Even more: if after playing for a while in the
 sandbox (http://xoffice.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Sandbox/), or asking
 and using your own wiki in MyWiki community farm or Netcipia, or
 installing your own standalone installation, you know how to set up an
 application server and a supported RDBMS, install and give a try to the
 last snapshot to feel the newest improvements! Don't forget to use the
 Create 200 Dummy Users snippet available at...

 http://code.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Snippets/Create200DummyUsersSnippet

 ... and play for a while with Users and Groups administration. Out of
 the box, XWiki features an amazingly powerful rights management system.
 Of course control who can read or edit a given document of a part of it
 is not a big issue for XWiki administrators.

 As for theming. Even though I think teaming is better than theming
 working with XWiki :-) as many other development areas, it has also
 evolved greatly in the last months. Some new concepts has been recently
 introduced, for instance check the Skin Extensions Plugin
 (http://code.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Plugins/SkinExtensionsPlugin).
 Right now is really easy to customized colours and logos, and modify any
 UI characteristic by using Firefox Firebug to track the relevant CSS
 XWiki code. Perhaps if you only look for a classical wiki, theming is
 not the most friendly XWiki feature for you. But don't forget this: it
 is completely scalable, so you should want to forget a bit about theming
 for a while being sure that what you see in our UI is or will be easily
 customizable in a near future.

 XWiki is what it reads in its portal's homepage: The XWiki project
 offers both a generic platform for developing collaborative applications
 using the wiki paradigm and products developed on top of it. XWiki
 Enterprise should be the product you are looking for, but this is only
 the top of the iceberg.

 I'm not able to compare the use of flat-files vs RDBMS (SQL is just the
 standard language that allows you to query such databases). BUT, once
 again, don't forget that XWiki is more than a wiki. It uses a RDBMS to
 hold a complex object-oriented structure. You can also use its SQL
 plugin to query local or remote RDBMS tables, but also can its API
 methods to design complex queries using HQL (Hibernate Query Language)
 or XWQL (XWiki Query Language)

 More: each XWiki document could be considered a database on its own! It
 could be composed of an unlimited number of objects + plain or more or
 less structured text.

 Sticks with XWiki and won't only create a classical, fast and full
 featured wiki but discover a full and funny universe of great
 possibilities. And, most important of all: you will meet a great
 community and development team!


 Just my two cents!

 Ricardo

  - Eric
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