Re: [xwiki-users] second generation wiki

2007-12-31 Thread Vincent Massol

On Dec 31, 2007, at 4:32 PM, Paul Grodt wrote:


 Ricardo Rodriguez wrote:
 Guillaume, don't you think that your message could entirely go to the
 XWiki entry in Wikipedia? Or, perhaps better, it could be advisable  
 to
 substitute the whole content of that article with a brief summary and
 a
 link to a page in the new XWiki site. I must recognize that I have  
 not
 a
 clear idea about that is the role of an iniciative like Wikipedia  
 when
 hosting information about another wiki. Wikipedia is a wiki, XWiki is
 a
 wiki, it makes more sense to use XWiki wiki to write down XWiki's
 history!

 Unfortunately, while interesting, the bulk of the information in
 Guillaume's post would be considered Original Research
 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WP:OR), which is not welcome to  
 Wikipedia.
 Content on WP is ideally from secondary sources. So if this  
 information
 exists in good independent sources, it can be sited and used, but you
 can't say things like according to a Google search.  The WP page for
 XWiki appropriately describes it as an Application Wiki.  If an
 independent source can be found that says XWiki coined the term  
 second
 generation wiki, then it would be appropriate, and probably a good  
 idea
 to mention it there.

 If xwiki.org has a page defining the term second generation wiki, it
 might be nice to add this information there. Or maybe have a history
 article on xwiki.org.

http://platform.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Main/SecondGenerationWiki

Thanks
-Vincent

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Re: [xwiki-users] second generation wiki

2007-12-29 Thread Your XEN ICT Team - Ricardo Rodriguez
Guillaume Lerouge wrote:
 Hi Ricardo,

 ...

 I'm getting lengthy, therefore stopping myself here. Hope this 
 answered some of your questions though :-)

 Wishing you all fellow XWikiers a happy new year,
 Guillaume

It does! Thanks for your no so long answer. I am sure a much more longer 
reflection is required to describe the whole landscape.

It is clearly an ongoing discussion, so let's see how things evolve!

Guillaume, don't you think that your message could entirely go to the 
XWiki entry in Wikipedia? Or, perhaps better, it could be advisable to 
substitute the whole content of that article with a brief summary and a 
link to a page in the new XWiki site. I must recognize that I have not a 
clear idea about that is the role of an iniciative like Wikipedia when 
hosting information about another wiki. Wikipedia is a wiki, XWiki is a 
wiki, it makes more sense to use XWiki wiki to write down XWiki's history!

In our small group we are convinced that discussion about the used 
technology is not separable from the dairy work. The only problem is how 
to maintain production while trying to keep the thread of such 
interesting discussions! :-) We are doing our best.

Happy New Year!

-- 
Ricardo Rodríguez
Your XEN ICT Team

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[xwiki-users] second generation wiki

2007-12-27 Thread Your XEN ICT Team - Ricardo Rodriguez
Hi all,

I've been harvesting information about XWiki, its origins, development 
and goals. It is clear that is by no means easy to draw a simple picture 
of the whole XWiki ecosystem but as far as I see, there there is a key 
concept extremely powerful when trying to explain what XWiki can do: 
XWiki is a second generation wiki.

Please, is this second generation wiki concept original from the XWiki 
Development Team, or XWiki Company, or has it any other known origin and 
development?

Thanks!

-- 
Ricardo Rodríguez
Your XEN ICT Team

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