RE: [vchkpw] qmail comparison

2006-03-29 Thread Tony Rini
He must have taken the spell check with him.

-Original Message-
From: Tren Blackburn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2006 9:35 AM
To: vchkpw@inter7.com
Subject: RE: [vchkpw] qmail comparison

What did your last slave die of?

t.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2006 8:00 PM
To: vchkpw@inter7.com
Subject: [vchkpw] qmail comparison

hi ,
iam new to qmail instllation server.before starting the qmail instllation i
like to know few details, please tell me
1 The advantages and disadvantages qmail,
2  comparison of qmail with other MTA cleint like Exchabge
serve,postfix,lotus notes,sendmail.etc 3.wich is stable MTA

Best regards,
Balaji









RE: [vchkpw] Re: ezmlm warning

2006-01-31 Thread Tony Rini
Interesting. I got it as well. Perhaps a little bug going on with the
listservers? Directing all mx to these guys? 

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:
209.76.75.195 does not like recipient.
Remote host said: 550 cannot message [EMAIL PROTECTED] (#5.0.0 denied by
policy) Giving up on 209.76.75.195.

-Original Message-
From: Ingo Claro [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2006 10:10 AM
To: vchkpw@inter7.com
Subject: Re: [vchkpw] Re: ezmlm warning

Happened to me too.

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:
209.76.75.195 does not like recipient.
Remote host said: 550 cannot message [EMAIL PROTECTED] (#5.0.0 denied by
policy)
Giving up on 209.76.75.195.








RE: [vchkpw] vpopmail 5.4.0 Make error on Solaris 9

2004-02-24 Thread Tony Rini
I seem to remember having to use gmake to get things going smoothly. I
haven't performed a qmail install on Solaris 9 so I'm afraid that I don't
have any experience in your exact environment. Sol8 on sparc sure caused a
few headaches with an older qmail/vpopmail release, I'm hoping things are
better now. 

Good luck and post any solutions you find.

Take Care,
Tony Rini

-Original Message-
From: Joseph Bruzzo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2004 8:13 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [vchkpw] vpopmail 5.4.0 Make error on Solaris 9

I am currently running gcc-3.3, zlib-1.2.1. I will upgrade my gcc to 3.3.2
and try it again.  If that doesn't work do you have any other ideas.  It
would be greatly appreciated.

I have the life with qmail book.  thanks for the tidbit.

Joseph Bruzzo


 I've run into countless problems compiling stuff on Solaris 8. The first
 thing you should do is make sure you are using a recent version of gcc,
 not the cc or gcc that came with Solaris. You may have to change
 configure to point to your new gcc. Find gcc and other precompiled
 binaries at
 sunfreeware.com

 I also found some tidbits that are Solaris specific on the life with
 qmail site.

 Take Care,

 Tony Rini

 -Original Message-
 From: Joseph Bruzzo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2004 7:14 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [vchkpw] vpopmail 5.4.0 Make error on Solaris 9


 Hi to all,

 I am trying to compile vpopmail-5.4.0 on a SUN Ultra 5 running Solaris 9
 with all the security and recommended patches.  But I keep on getting
 this error that for the life of me I can not figure it out.

 Can anyone help???

 my Configuration options are as follows:

 bash-2.05# crle -c /var/ld/ld.config -l
 /usr/lib:/usr/local/lib:/usr/local/ssl/lib:/usr/local/mysql/lib

 bash-2.05# ./configure --enable-roaming-users=n --enable-logging=p
 --enable-ip-alias-domains=n --enable-passwd=n --enable-clear-passwd=y
 --enable-domain-quotas=n --enable-auth-module=mysql
 --enable-incdir=/usr/local/mysql/include
 --enable-libdir=/usr/local/mysql/lib --enable-many-domains=n
 --enable-auth-logging=y --enable-mysql-logging=y --enable-valias=y
 --enable-mysql-limits=n

 vpopmail 5.4.0
 Current settings
 ---

 vpopmail directory = /var/vpopmail
uid = 725
gid = 725
  roaming users = OFF --disable-roaming-users (default)
  password learning = OFF --disable-learn-passwords (default)
  md5 passwords = ON  --enable-md5-passwords (default)
   file locking = ON  --enable-file-locking (default)
 vdelivermail fsync = OFF --disable-file-sync (default)
  make seekable = ON  --enable-make-seekable (default)
   clear passwd = ON  --enable-clear-passwd (default)
  user dir hashing  = ON  --enable-users-big-dir (default)
 address extensions = OFF --disable-qmail-ext (default)
   ip alias = OFF --disable-ip-alias-domains (default)
  domain quotas = OFF --disable-domainquotas (default)
auth module = mysql --enable-auth-module=mysql
  mysql replication = OFF --disable-mysql-replication (default)
  mysql logging = ON  --enable-mysql-logging
   mysql limits = OFF --disable-mysql-limits (default)
   MySQL valias = ON  --enable-valias
   auth inc = -I/usr/local/mysql/include
   auth lib = -L/usr/local/mysql/lib -R${exec_prefix}/lib
 -lmysqlclient -lz
   system passwords = OFF --disable-passwd (default)
 pop syslog = show failed attempts with clear text password
  --enable-logging=p
   auth logging = ON  --enable-auth-logging (default)
 one domain per SQL table = --disable-many-domains

 bash-2.05# /usr/ccs/bin/make  ## This produces the error below...


 gcc -I. -I/usr/local/mysql/include  -I. -I. -I. -g -O2 -Wall -c
 `test -f 'vchkpw.c' || echo './'`vchkpw.c gcc -I.
 -I/usr/local/mysql/include -I. -I. -I. -g -O2 -Wall -c `test -f
 'hmac_md5.c' || echo
 './'`hmac_md5.c hmac_md5.c: In function `hmac_md5':
 hmac_md5.c:52: warning: implicit declaration of function `bzero'
 hmac_md5.c:54: warning: implicit declaration of function `bcopy'
 gcc  -g -O2 -Wall   -o vchkpw  vchkpw.o md5.o hmac_md5.o libvpopmail.a
 -L/usr/local/mysql/lib -R/usr/local/lib -lmysqlclient -lz -lcrypt
 Undefined   first referenced
  symbol in file
 socket
 /usr/local/mysql/lib/libmysqlclient.a(libmysql.o) getpeername
/usr/local/mysql/lib/libmysqlclient.a(viosocket.o)
 gethostbyname_r
 /usr/local/mysql/lib/libmysqlclient.a(libmysql.o) setsockopt
/usr/local/mysql/lib/libmysqlclient.a(viosocket.o)
 getservbyname
 /usr/local/mysql/lib/libmysqlclient.a(libmysql.o) floor
/usr/local/mysql/lib/libmysqlclient.a(password.o) inet_addr
   /usr/local/mysql/lib/libmysqlclient.a(libmysql.o)
 inet_ntoa
 /usr/local/mysql/lib/libmysqlclient.a(my_net.o

Re: [vchkpw] tcp.smtp.cdb is updated only once, and only when open-smtp is missing

2002-09-23 Thread Tony A.T. Mendina


Ken,

Thanks for your suggestions, but sadly, they didn't help. Your recap
was dead-on...I verified the path to tcprules in config.h, and
re-verified that I can run tcprules as user vpopmail and update the
cdb without a problem.

So, I'm still in the market for suggestions, as long as they don't
involve learning C, which I'm just not going to have time for this
week grin, though I'm going to try a couple of simple commenting
out type of tests to see if I can pin down the problem a little bit.

Tony


Ken Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 9/21/2002 at 2:30 AM:

 So to recap:

 - open-smtp is correctly being updated with new pop auth IPs?
 - tcp.smtp.cdb is not being updated.

 A few things need to fall in line to make that all happen.
 And it sounds like you've got at least most of them.

 I would look at the config.h vpopmail file for:
 The #ifdef of where the tcprules program lives.
 make sure it is there :) then make sure the user that the
 vchkpw program runs as (when a user pops) has permission
 to run it and update the #ifdef location of where the tcp.smtp.cdb 
 file lives.

 Run the tcprules program just like vchkpw would, on the command
 line and see what happens. Check if it updates the tcp.smtp.cdb file.

 If all this is right then i dunno...

 If all your email accounts are owned by vpopmail then you might
 as well run the pop3d tcpserver (and logs) as vpopmail.vchkpw.
 The alternative (worth trying) is have everything run as root. 

 Ken Jones

 On Friday 20 September 2002 11:53 am, Tony A.T. Mendina wrote:
 This is a long story; but, I'd be happy if anyone with the patience to
 slog through it could offer further troubleshooting suggestions,
 pointers to docs that I missed, or any other advice they deem helpful
 grin.

 My problem is that tcp.smtp.cdb is not being updated when a pop3 user
 logs in, _unless_ I delete the open-smtp file just before the login.
 I'm not seeing errors in the logs or leftover temporary files on the
 disk, and users can log in and check mail successfully. The file
 open-smtp _is_ being updated each time a user checks mail.
 Clearopensmtp _does_ run without error from the system crontab,
 whether I've got the vpopmail system running as root or as vpopmail.

 I'm trying to use vpopmail with qmail 1.03 and redhat 7.2. My previous
 (working) qmail+vpopmail installs use vpopmail 5.2.1 just like I'm
 trying to do now, but this new one is a little different. Instead of
 running tcpserver directly from my init scripts and using Debian with
 a 2.2 kernel, I'm running it using supervise and using Redhat with a
 2.4. Switching back to debian and cloning is not an option for work
 policy reasons. The qmail installs themselves are identical; both
 machines use the current ucspi-tcp, .88.

 At first, I was first letting the /supervise/qmail-pop3d/run script
 start tcpserver as root, and the open-smtp file, as well as the cdb
 file, were owned by root. Tcp.smtp.cdb was in /etc/, and clearopensmtp
 was run as root. I carefully compared the locations and permissions of
 executables and data files between a working debian+qmail+vpopmail
 system and this new redhat one, I and couldn't find any difference.
 After reading the tales of users with similar problems in the list
 archives, I saw that most of them had to do with the vpopmail user
 having access problems with needed files and with /etc.

 So as an experiment, I switched the whole setup to use the vpopmail
 user. The cron job for clearopensmtp was changed to run as vpopmail;
 vpopmail was recompiled to use /var/vchkpw/etc rather than /etc for
 the tcp rules file, the supervise scripts were changed accordingly,
 and so on. Users (well, test user accounts) can still log in and check
 mail without errors being returned to the client software, but just as
 before, the tcp.smtp.cdb file is _still_ not updated, except every 15
 minutes when clearopensmtp runs.

 Then, as a further experiment, I tried replacing vpopmail 5.2.1 with
 5.3.8. I used /var/vchkpw/etc and ran all components as the vpopmail
 user. No luck.

 The one exception to the lack of updates is if I delete the file
 /var/vchkpw/etc/open-smtp. If I do that, tcp.smtp.cdb is updated when
 the next pop3 user logs in. Open-smtp is recreated, and further pop3
 logins don't result in updates to the cdb file, just open-smtp. This
 is the case whether the cdb file is in /etc and I'm running vpopmail
 as root or its in /var/vchkpw/etc and I'm running vpopmail as
 vpopmail.

 I've also tried running the tcpserver which runs qmail-popup, vchkpw,
 and qmail-pop3d from the command line as root and both with and
 without the -u 89 -g 89 parameters; I get the same problem as always,
 every time.

 In case this long and unhappy story wasn't long enough, I've included
 samples of scripts and the output of some of my debugging below. I've
 really run out of ideas for what to do next to try and identify the
 problem or to solve it, so ideas are very welcome! Vpopmail is
 *almost* working

[vchkpw] tcp.smtp.cdb is updated only once, and only when open-smtp is missing

2002-09-20 Thread Tony A.T. Mendina


This is a long story; but, I'd be happy if anyone with the patience to
slog through it could offer further troubleshooting suggestions,
pointers to docs that I missed, or any other advice they deem helpful
grin.

My problem is that tcp.smtp.cdb is not being updated when a pop3 user
logs in, _unless_ I delete the open-smtp file just before the login.
I'm not seeing errors in the logs or leftover temporary files on the
disk, and users can log in and check mail successfully. The file
open-smtp _is_ being updated each time a user checks mail.
Clearopensmtp _does_ run without error from the system crontab,
whether I've got the vpopmail system running as root or as vpopmail.

I'm trying to use vpopmail with qmail 1.03 and redhat 7.2. My previous
(working) qmail+vpopmail installs use vpopmail 5.2.1 just like I'm
trying to do now, but this new one is a little different. Instead of
running tcpserver directly from my init scripts and using Debian with
a 2.2 kernel, I'm running it using supervise and using Redhat with a
2.4. Switching back to debian and cloning is not an option for work
policy reasons. The qmail installs themselves are identical; both
machines use the current ucspi-tcp, .88.

At first, I was first letting the /supervise/qmail-pop3d/run script
start tcpserver as root, and the open-smtp file, as well as the cdb
file, were owned by root. Tcp.smtp.cdb was in /etc/, and clearopensmtp
was run as root. I carefully compared the locations and permissions of
executables and data files between a working debian+qmail+vpopmail
system and this new redhat one, I and couldn't find any difference.
After reading the tales of users with similar problems in the list
archives, I saw that most of them had to do with the vpopmail user
having access problems with needed files and with /etc.

So as an experiment, I switched the whole setup to use the vpopmail
user. The cron job for clearopensmtp was changed to run as vpopmail;
vpopmail was recompiled to use /var/vchkpw/etc rather than /etc for
the tcp rules file, the supervise scripts were changed accordingly,
and so on. Users (well, test user accounts) can still log in and check
mail without errors being returned to the client software, but just as
before, the tcp.smtp.cdb file is _still_ not updated, except every 15
minutes when clearopensmtp runs.

Then, as a further experiment, I tried replacing vpopmail 5.2.1 with
5.3.8. I used /var/vchkpw/etc and ran all components as the vpopmail
user. No luck.

The one exception to the lack of updates is if I delete the file
/var/vchkpw/etc/open-smtp. If I do that, tcp.smtp.cdb is updated when
the next pop3 user logs in. Open-smtp is recreated, and further pop3
logins don't result in updates to the cdb file, just open-smtp. This
is the case whether the cdb file is in /etc and I'm running vpopmail
as root or its in /var/vchkpw/etc and I'm running vpopmail as
vpopmail.

I've also tried running the tcpserver which runs qmail-popup, vchkpw,
and qmail-pop3d from the command line as root and both with and
without the -u 89 -g 89 parameters; I get the same problem as always,
every time.

In case this long and unhappy story wasn't long enough, I've included
samples of scripts and the output of some of my debugging below. I've
really run out of ideas for what to do next to try and identify the
problem or to solve it, so ideas are very welcome! Vpopmail is
*almost* working; if I could just get vchkpw to update the cdb file,
I'd be set.

Thanks for any help you can give,

Tony

First, the recordio output from when recordio was added to the startup
script just ahead of qmail-popup.

tcpserver: pid 2093 from 66.6.197.35
tcpserver: ok 2093 0:216.65.196.14:110 :66.6.197.35::1349
 093  +OK [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 093  USER [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 093  +OK 
 093  PASS I've removed it
 093  +OK 
 093  STAT
 093  +OK 18 17029
 093  LIST
 093  +OK 
 093  1 1451
 093  2 919
 093  3 719
 093  4 1037
 093  5 1037
 093  6 1640
 093  7 717
 093  8 921
 093  9 734
 093  10 735
 093  11 735
 093  12 733
 093  13 735
 093  14 735
 093  15 1156
 093  16 1656
 093  17 685
 093  18 684
 093  .
 093  UIDL
 093  +OK 
 093  1 1032294648.21614.guilder.optimumreturn.com,S=1405
 093  2 1032294707.21630.guilder.optimumreturn.com,S=858
 093  3 1032294713.21634.guilder.optimumreturn.com,S=658
 093  4 1032294893.21760.guilder.optimumreturn.com,S=976
2093  5 1032295236.21874.guilder.optimumreturn.com,S=+
 093  976
 093  6 1032295950.21943.guilder.optimumreturn.com,S=1594
 093  7 1032297065.23654.guilder.optimumreturn.com,S=656
 093  8 1032297102.23663.guilder.optimumreturn.com,S=860
 093  9 1032297216.24457.guilder.optimumreturn.com,S=673
2093  10 1032297245.24465.guilder.optimumreturn.+
 093  com,S=674
 093  11 1032297303.24488.guilder.optimumreturn.com,S=674
 093  12 1032297335.24497.guilder.optimumreturn.com,S=672
 093  13 1032297357.24541.guilder.optimumreturn.com,S=674
 093  14 1032297465.25301.guilder.optimumreturn.com,S=674
2093  15 1032297722.25325.guilder.optim+
 093

Re: Vqadmin Upgrade Failure.

2001-12-06 Thread Tony Publiski

Last I checked, Frontpage still installed it's own version of apache, 
which likely doesn't have some of the things necessary for vqadmin to 
work.  You probably shouldn't run a webserver on the same machine as 
your mail server anyway, really.

Tony

Kevin - System Administrator wrote:

I had vqadmin working fine on apache untill i upgraded and installed the
same modulues + frontpage
all my other cgi's work 100% no problems even qmailadmin
but vwadmin spits this out
Software error:
Unrecognized character \x7F at /usr/local/apache/cgi-bin/vqadmin/vqadmin.cgi
line 1.


what can be wrong?








Re: Vqadmin Upgrade Failure.

2001-12-06 Thread Tony Publiski



Bill Shupp wrote:

Last I checked, Frontpage still installed it's own version of apache,
which likely doesn't have some of the things necessary for vqadmin to
work.


You don't have to.  I always patch apache manaully so I can still compile
it the way I want.

You probably shouldn't run a webserver on the same machine as
your mail server anyway, really.


Unless of course, you use SqWebmail.

-Bill


What I meant was that you probably don't want to run a webserver serving 
other webpages.  You certainly wouldn't need Frontpage installed in 
order to run sqwebmail. :)  Generally ISP's do it for their customers, 
in which case it should be completely seperate.

Tony




Stuck - Re: Mysql and Vpopmail

2001-05-06 Thread Tony


Hi I am running qmail and mysql 3.23.37.  Trying to compile
vpopmail-4.9.10 on a RedHat 7.0 Server using mysql for authenticaion.

Compiling seems to be fine (in other words there are no apparent errors
using my options).

Here is my problem:

[root@jupitor vpopmail-4.9.10]# telnet localhost 110
Trying 204.225.119.9...
Connected to localhost.visinet.ca.
Escape character is '^]'.
+OK 23220.989199620@jupitor
user blue
+OK
pass blue
/disk02/vpopmail/bin/vchkpw: error while loading shared libraries:
libmysqlclient.so.10: cannot open shared object file: No such file or
directory
-ERR authorization failed
Connection closed by foreign host.

Here are my configure options:

./configure \
  --enable-large-site=n \
  --enable-apop=y \
  --enable-passwd=y \
  --enable-roaming-users=y \
  --enable-mysql=y \
  --enable-sqlincdir=/usr/local/mysql/include/mysql \
  --enable-sqllibdir=/usr/local/mysql/lib/mysql

I did edit the vmysql.h file with the appropriate settings.

Any help would be appreciated.
Tony




Problems compiling Courier-IMAP

2001-04-03 Thread Tony


Running: vpopmail (how do i find version number ?)
Mysql 3.22.32

I am getting an error when I try to compile courier-imap-1.2.2.

Here is my configure script in courier-imap:

./configure --without-authmysql --without-authuserdb --without-authpam \
--without-authpwd --without-authshadow --without-authldap \
--with-authvchkpw --enable-workarounds-for-imap-client-bugs

I am getting this error when it try to make in the authlib directory:

make[1]: Entering directory
`/usr/home/blue/install-20010308/courier-imap-1.2.2/authlib'
gcc  -I/disk/vpopmail/include -g -O2 -Wall -I.. -I./.. -L/disk/vpopmail/lib 
 -o authvchkpw  modauthvchkpw.o libauthmod.a libauth.a
../md5/libmd5.a -lvpopmail -lm -lcrypt
libauth.a(preauthvchkpw.o): In function `auth_vchkpw_pre':
/usr/home/blue/install-20010308/courier-imap-1.2.2/authlib/preauthvchkpw.c:6
7: undefined reference to `vget_assign'
/usr/home/blue/install-20010308/courier-imap-1.2.2/authlib/preauthvchkpw.c:7
0: undefined reference to `vclose'
collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
make[1]: *** [authvchkpw] Error 1
make[1]: Leaving directory
`/usr/home/blue/install-20010308/courier-imap-1.2.2/authlib'
make: *** [all-recursive] Error 1


I tried to install the latest vpopmail thinking that there might be version
compatibility problems between courier-imap and the older vpopmail, but
could not authenticate for pop logins aftwerwards.  I  then had to revert
back to the older vpopmail to get pop to work again.

Any help would be appreciated!
Thanks
T




RE: MySQL + vpopmail

2000-11-03 Thread Tony Publiski

Why would you want to send your passwords in clear text?  Why would you want
them stored that way?

--
Tony Publiski
World Wide Net, Inc.
+1 (734) 513-7707 x 2012 

-Original Message-
From: Chad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, November 03, 2000 3:47 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: MySQL + vpopmail


Does vpopmail have clear text password support ?




RE: Telnet in redhat..

2000-10-11 Thread Tony Publiski



You 
cannot telnet as root to most any server, nor should you be able to. It is 
certainly not recommended. This is also completely off topic from this 
list...

--Tony PubliskiWorld Wide Net, Inc.+1 (734) 513-7707 
x 2012 

  -Original Message-From: sundar 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2000 10:05 
  AMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Telnet in 
  redhat..
  Hi all,
   please help 
  me how to enable telnet the root on Redhat 6.2..
  thanks
  sundar


vadduser seg faulting

2000-10-06 Thread Tony Publiski (tonyp)
Title: vadduser seg faulting





I've got an interesting bug. If you try to add a new user, which does not exist in the vpasswd file yet but does have a user directory previously existing, vadduser will seg fault while creating the new vpasswd file. The vpasswd file is then only partially written, and thus corrupt. It doesn't immediately delete the .tmp file used, but if you don't realize it and run vadduser again it will completely remove the vpasswd file and you will have to manually reconstruct it. Perhaps this has already been reported, but I discovered it last week while moving a domain onto my new server :) I haven't had a chance to dig through the code yet and modify it, but wanted to report it just the same.

Tony





RE: SMTP Relay..,

2000-10-02 Thread Tony Publiski (tonyp)



I 
notice you have a typo there and you typed "RELACLEINT". Is that how you 
have it spelled in your rules file? The format would 
be:

IP.ADDRESS:allow,RELAYCLIENT=""

Also, 
what is the complete commandline you've got for tcpclient to 
qmail-pop3d?

Tony

  -Original Message-From: Sundar 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Monday, October 02, 2000 
  4:55 AMTo: vchkpwSubject: SMTP 
  Relay..,
  Hello All,
   
  After I instaled the qmail+vpopmail+qmail admin .
  When I try to send mail to another domains like 
  yahoo ,hotmail it giving erro massage the requested sever is not my list of 
  rcphost .I have followed the tcprules to :allow,RELACLEINT="" .
  Is it correct and how can I resolve it ,please 
  help me..
  Thanks  
RegardsSundar


RE: feature request

2000-08-25 Thread Tony Publiski

There is a better solution.  Use sendmail or use /etc/passwd and qmail.  I
can justify using an IP address per domain because I actually host the
websites and mail of the domains that I take care of.  That way, I can keep
everything with 1 IP address and it works great.  I really do not at all
like using aliases in the fashion that you are speaking of because then
you've got hundreds of domains trying to use a limited resource.  I hate
having someone say "I want [EMAIL PROTECTED]" and having to tell them "set
your mail client to check the pop3 account of sales64".  It's terrible.  If
you compile it in to check based on the reverse of the IP that the request
comes in on, you can avoid the sales%domain.com issue you're complaining
about.  And I've yet to hear a mail client that doesn't like the %
delimiter.  @ is a big problem though.

--
Tony Publiski
World Wide Net, Inc.
+1 (734) 513-7707 x 2012 

-Original Message-
From: Mark Chesney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, August 25, 2000 2:09 PM
To: vpopmail; qmailadmin
Subject: RE: feature request


a small service provider with more mail hosts than ip addresses would be
able to achieve an effect similar to the ip aliasing option. or suppose a
service provider doesn't want to allocate numerous ip's just for the sake of
mail. the requirement of a delimiter whether it be / or % or @, etc creates
too many problems and support issues. so many common mail clients choke on
delimiters, that there must be a better solution.

-Original Message-
From: Ben Beuchler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, August 25, 2000 9:15 AM
To: vpopmail; qmailadmin
Subject: Re: feature request


On Fri, Aug 25, 2000 at 09:05:50AM -0700, Mark Chesney wrote:

 currently, in order to avoid the %domain pop user naming scheme, the only
 choice is ip aliasing, which requires an ip for each and every domain.
 sometimes this is unrealistic or unachievable. why not create a system
where
 pop usernames can be unique, but not so clunky. there are many ways to do
 this, but it should be left up to the administrator. i can think of
several
 examples:

What would be the advantage?  Aside from aesthetics...

Ben

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