RE: 5.0 next to 4.10.x

2001-11-08 Thread Brad Dameron

I use a nfs server with 2 qmail box's using Maildir and vpopmail and I don't
see any issues with too many directories, etc. What kind of performance
issues are you seeing?

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Brad Dameron
Network Account Executive
TSCNet Inc.
 www.tscnet.com
Silverdale, WA. 
1-888-8TSCNET



-Original Message-
From: Lu [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2001 12:05 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: 5.0 next to 4.10.x


I appreciate everyone's feedback on this.

A couple of last things I need to ask:

Perhaps the downside of using NFS or other shared volume is at a certain
point, the number of directories and files it has to handle will be too
great whereas if I go with separate servers, this is not a problem and
likely an increase in performance.

I guess it all depends on the type of hardware one has but is this
something you take seriously ?

What about scalability ?

Thanks.





Re: 5.0 next to 4.10.x

2001-11-08 Thread Ken Jones

If a site ever did get to the point where one machine
couldn't handle the disk/network I/O, you could
easily split up each domains user dirs across 1(default)
to 63 nodes. 0-9,A-Z,a-z.

Ken Jones

On Thu, 2001-11-08 at 21:11, Doug Clements wrote:
 This is offset by the risk of running non-redundant servers.
 
 We have a large NFS store running on FreeBSD (trying to get a Netapp).
 vpopmail provides a very effective directory structure which dynamically
 accounts for large amounts of domains and users. Also, with a dedicated NFS
 server, you can stuff it full of RAM and have it cache most directory
 accesses. This takes disk access load off the mail client. It also provides
 a central place to back everything up to. Back up one server, and one server
 only. If a node dies, you replace it. If the NFS server dies, replace it and
 restore a backup of data. We keep 2 IDE drives in the NFS server for
 rotating backups, so in a pinch, if the raid fails, we could mount a backup
 disk and be back online in minutes.
 
 Of course, with a clustered netapp solution, it makes things so much easier.
 They're kinda expensive, though.
 
 From the FreeBSD 4.4 release notes:
 A simple hash-based lookup optimization for large directories called dirhash
 has been added. Conditional on the UFS_DIRHASH kernel option, it improves
 the speed of operations on very large directories at the expense of some
 memory.
 
 So if you have tons of memory and still aren't happy with performance, you
 can tweak the server to be even faster :)
 
 --Doug
 
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Lu [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2001 12:05 PM
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: RE: 5.0 next to 4.10.x
  
  
  I appreciate everyone's feedback on this.
  
  A couple of last things I need to ask:
  
  Perhaps the downside of using NFS or other shared volume is at a certain
  point, the number of directories and files it has to handle will be too
  great whereas if I go with separate servers, this is not a problem and
  likely an increase in performance.
  
  I guess it all depends on the type of hardware one has but is this
  something you take seriously ?
  
  What about scalability ?
  
  Thanks.