Re: VCL and xCat

2012-02-10 Thread Aaron Peeler
Dmitri,

Just to add to Amit, comments.

We use xCAT extensively here at ncsu. From provisioning end-user
desktops and our hypervisors. xCAT very helpful when needed to install
a chassis full of blades with esxi.

As your installing xCAT  You'll want to review
https://cwiki.apache.org/VCL/adding-support-for-partimage-and-partimage-ng-to-xcat-2x-unofficial.html
We added in VCL support for partimage  - which is used to capture the
disk images of end-user environments/desktops for windows and linux.

When your adding nodes to vcl through the manage computers tool, make
sure to choose xCAT 2.x .  If your doing windows bare-metal, you'll
also need to include sysprep and related mass storage drivers so it
can be reloaded successfully.

For sysprep review step 8 on this page:
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/VCL/VCL+2.2.1+Management+Node+Installation

Hope this info helps,
Aaron


On Thu, Feb 9, 2012 at 4:03 PM, Dmitri Chebotarov dcheb...@gmu.edu wrote:

 Amit,

 Thanks a lot.


 On Feb 9, 2012, at 15:57 , Kumar, Amit H. wrote:

 Hi Dmitri,

 You general idea is correct to my best understanding.

 Install Path in the Edit management Node will be the path for xCAT(bare 
 metal) image repository. In addition when you configure the Site table in 
 xCAT you will set the installdir to point to the location where you will 
 store your images.

 We have IBM E Blade Chassis with HS22 blade servers.

 Best,
 Amit

 -Original Message-
 From: dcheb...@gmu.edu [mailto:dcheb...@gmu.edu]
 Sent: Thursday, February 09, 2012 3:44 PM
 To: vcl-user@incubator.apache.org
 Subject: Re: VCL and xCat


 Amit,

 I'm trying to get general idea about xCat/VCL : so, basically xCat
 needs to be installed and configured on VCL Mgm node(s) before it can
 be used with VCL, and I should be able to successfully provision xCat
 nodes/clients with different images. Once xCat is working then I can
 add bare-metal computers - blade with xCat 2.x engine. Does it sound
 right?

 How do you tell VCL where to get image files for xCat nodes - is it
 'Install Path' setting under Management Nodes - Edit management node
 information?

 What kind of hardware do you have for xCat nodes? Are those IBM blade
 servers or/and PCs?


 Thanks.


 On Feb 9, 2012, at 15:16 , Kumar, Amit H. wrote:

 Hi,

 We do not need an additional/dedicated server to do both xCAT and VCL
 together, your management node can serve as your xCAT server.

 I would recommend getting xCAT to work by itself before using VCL to
 manage your images and guest OS.

 This has worked well for us so far.

 :Amit


 -Original Message-
 From: dcheb...@gmu.edu [mailto:dcheb...@gmu.edu]
 Sent: Thursday, February 09, 2012 3:03 PM
 To: vcl-user@incubator.apache.org
 Subject: VCL and xCat

 Hi All

 Anyone is using xCat with VCL?

 I have generic question about xCat and VCL - where do I start?
 Do I need working xCat environment before I can add it to VCL?
 Does xCat need dedicated server? Or does it run on the VCL
 management
 node?
 Are there any special hardware requirements for xCat clients?


 Thank you.








 Thank you.

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Re: VCL and xCat

2012-02-10 Thread Dmitri Chebotarov

Thank you, I hope we can make it work in our environment as well...

I keep searching and reading xCat docs - here is good one - 
http://sumavi.com/books/xcat-administrators-guide. 
BTW, if you have any docs outside of xcat.org site, please share... At this 
point I'm looking for xCat overview docs, i.e. to understand the process.

Looks like xCat makes extensive use of DHCP server to manage nodes. Are you 
using different DHCPd servers for VCL VMs and xCat nodes, or just keep 
everything on one DHCP server and being careful with which MAC gets what? 

Thanks again for your help...

On Feb 10, 2012, at 9:30 , Aaron Peeler wrote:

 Dmitri,
 
 Just to add to Amit, comments.
 
 We use xCAT extensively here at ncsu. From provisioning end-user
 desktops and our hypervisors. xCAT very helpful when needed to install
 a chassis full of blades with esxi.
 
 As your installing xCAT  You'll want to review
 https://cwiki.apache.org/VCL/adding-support-for-partimage-and-partimage-ng-to-xcat-2x-unofficial.html
 We added in VCL support for partimage  - which is used to capture the
 disk images of end-user environments/desktops for windows and linux.
 
 When your adding nodes to vcl through the manage computers tool, make
 sure to choose xCAT 2.x .  If your doing windows bare-metal, you'll
 also need to include sysprep and related mass storage drivers so it
 can be reloaded successfully.
 
 For sysprep review step 8 on this page:
 https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/VCL/VCL+2.2.1+Management+Node+Installation
 
 Hope this info helps,
 Aaron
 
 
 On Thu, Feb 9, 2012 at 4:03 PM, Dmitri Chebotarov dcheb...@gmu.edu wrote:
 
 Amit,
 
 Thanks a lot.
 
 
 On Feb 9, 2012, at 15:57 , Kumar, Amit H. wrote:
 
 Hi Dmitri,
 
 You general idea is correct to my best understanding.
 
 Install Path in the Edit management Node will be the path for xCAT(bare 
 metal) image repository. In addition when you configure the Site table in 
 xCAT you will set the installdir to point to the location where you will 
 store your images.
 
 We have IBM E Blade Chassis with HS22 blade servers.
 
 Best,
 Amit
 
 -Original Message-
 From: dcheb...@gmu.edu [mailto:dcheb...@gmu.edu]
 Sent: Thursday, February 09, 2012 3:44 PM
 To: vcl-user@incubator.apache.org
 Subject: Re: VCL and xCat
 
 
 Amit,
 
 I'm trying to get general idea about xCat/VCL : so, basically xCat
 needs to be installed and configured on VCL Mgm node(s) before it can
 be used with VCL, and I should be able to successfully provision xCat
 nodes/clients with different images. Once xCat is working then I can
 add bare-metal computers - blade with xCat 2.x engine. Does it sound
 right?
 
 How do you tell VCL where to get image files for xCat nodes - is it
 'Install Path' setting under Management Nodes - Edit management node
 information?
 
 What kind of hardware do you have for xCat nodes? Are those IBM blade
 servers or/and PCs?
 
 
 Thanks.
 
 
 On Feb 9, 2012, at 15:16 , Kumar, Amit H. wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 We do not need an additional/dedicated server to do both xCAT and VCL
 together, your management node can serve as your xCAT server.
 
 I would recommend getting xCAT to work by itself before using VCL to
 manage your images and guest OS.
 
 This has worked well for us so far.
 
 :Amit
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: dcheb...@gmu.edu [mailto:dcheb...@gmu.edu]
 Sent: Thursday, February 09, 2012 3:03 PM
 To: vcl-user@incubator.apache.org
 Subject: VCL and xCat
 
 Hi All
 
 Anyone is using xCat with VCL?
 
 I have generic question about xCat and VCL - where do I start?
 Do I need working xCat environment before I can add it to VCL?
 Does xCat need dedicated server? Or does it run on the VCL
 management
 node?
 Are there any special hardware requirements for xCat clients?
 
 
 Thank you.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 Thank you.
 
 -
 Dmitri Chebotarov
 dcheb...@gmu.edu
 703-993-6175
 -
 
 
 
 
 
 
 Thank you.
 
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Re: VCL and xCat

2012-02-10 Thread Aaron Peeler
We use a single dhcp server/config on the private network for both the
blades and vm nodes.

In xCAT2 - there are globals set in the default /etc/dhcpd.conf and
xCAT makes heavy use of the /var/lib/dhcpd/dhcpd.leases files for
adding nodes, etc.  We typically have blades that are part of the xCAT
tables and vms that are not. We just add the vms to the /etc/hosts
file same as the blades and just script the adding of the vms to the
leases file.

You could definitely add the vms to the xCAT tables - just to make use
of the makedhcp cmd. But with hundreds of vm entries, that just
cluttered up our xCAT tables. So we just elected to add them directly
outside of the xCAT managed blades.

Aaron

On Fri, Feb 10, 2012 at 10:15 AM, Dmitri Chebotarov dcheb...@gmu.edu wrote:

 Thank you, I hope we can make it work in our environment as well...

 I keep searching and reading xCat docs - here is good one - 
 http://sumavi.com/books/xcat-administrators-guide.
 BTW, if you have any docs outside of xcat.org site, please share... At this 
 point I'm looking for xCat overview docs, i.e. to understand the process.

 Looks like xCat makes extensive use of DHCP server to manage nodes. Are you 
 using different DHCPd servers for VCL VMs and xCat nodes, or just keep 
 everything on one DHCP server and being careful with which MAC gets what?

 Thanks again for your help...

 On Feb 10, 2012, at 9:30 , Aaron Peeler wrote:

 Dmitri,

 Just to add to Amit, comments.

 We use xCAT extensively here at ncsu. From provisioning end-user
 desktops and our hypervisors. xCAT very helpful when needed to install
 a chassis full of blades with esxi.

 As your installing xCAT  You'll want to review
 https://cwiki.apache.org/VCL/adding-support-for-partimage-and-partimage-ng-to-xcat-2x-unofficial.html
 We added in VCL support for partimage  - which is used to capture the
 disk images of end-user environments/desktops for windows and linux.

 When your adding nodes to vcl through the manage computers tool, make
 sure to choose xCAT 2.x .  If your doing windows bare-metal, you'll
 also need to include sysprep and related mass storage drivers so it
 can be reloaded successfully.

 For sysprep review step 8 on this page:
 https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/VCL/VCL+2.2.1+Management+Node+Installation

 Hope this info helps,
 Aaron


 On Thu, Feb 9, 2012 at 4:03 PM, Dmitri Chebotarov dcheb...@gmu.edu wrote:

 Amit,

 Thanks a lot.


 On Feb 9, 2012, at 15:57 , Kumar, Amit H. wrote:

 Hi Dmitri,

 You general idea is correct to my best understanding.

 Install Path in the Edit management Node will be the path for xCAT(bare 
 metal) image repository. In addition when you configure the Site table 
 in xCAT you will set the installdir to point to the location where you 
 will store your images.

 We have IBM E Blade Chassis with HS22 blade servers.

 Best,
 Amit

 -Original Message-
 From: dcheb...@gmu.edu [mailto:dcheb...@gmu.edu]
 Sent: Thursday, February 09, 2012 3:44 PM
 To: vcl-user@incubator.apache.org
 Subject: Re: VCL and xCat


 Amit,

 I'm trying to get general idea about xCat/VCL : so, basically xCat
 needs to be installed and configured on VCL Mgm node(s) before it can
 be used with VCL, and I should be able to successfully provision xCat
 nodes/clients with different images. Once xCat is working then I can
 add bare-metal computers - blade with xCat 2.x engine. Does it sound
 right?

 How do you tell VCL where to get image files for xCat nodes - is it
 'Install Path' setting under Management Nodes - Edit management node
 information?

 What kind of hardware do you have for xCat nodes? Are those IBM blade
 servers or/and PCs?


 Thanks.


 On Feb 9, 2012, at 15:16 , Kumar, Amit H. wrote:

 Hi,

 We do not need an additional/dedicated server to do both xCAT and VCL
 together, your management node can serve as your xCAT server.

 I would recommend getting xCAT to work by itself before using VCL to
 manage your images and guest OS.

 This has worked well for us so far.

 :Amit


 -Original Message-
 From: dcheb...@gmu.edu [mailto:dcheb...@gmu.edu]
 Sent: Thursday, February 09, 2012 3:03 PM
 To: vcl-user@incubator.apache.org
 Subject: VCL and xCat

 Hi All

 Anyone is using xCat with VCL?

 I have generic question about xCat and VCL - where do I start?
 Do I need working xCat environment before I can add it to VCL?
 Does xCat need dedicated server? Or does it run on the VCL
 management
 node?
 Are there any special hardware requirements for xCat clients?


 Thank you.








 Thank you.

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 Dmitri Chebotarov
 dcheb...@gmu.edu
 703-993-6175
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Re: VCL and xCat

2012-02-10 Thread Dmitri Chebotarov

Thank you. 

What version of xCat do you use? Since VCL supports xCat 2.x, is it safe to use 
latest xCat 2.6.10? Thanks.

On Feb 10, 2012, at 11:27 , Kumar, Amit H. wrote:

 Hi Dmitri,
 
 SUMAVI link that you have is a real good one, I blindly followed it and then 
 slowly things started to make more sense once it worked.
 Also xCAT forum was very helpful. 
 
 Thank you,
 Amit
 
 -Original Message-
 From: dcheb...@gmu.edu [mailto:dcheb...@gmu.edu]
 Sent: Friday, February 10, 2012 10:15 AM
 To: vcl-user@incubator.apache.org; aaron_pee...@ncsu.edu
 Subject: Re: VCL and xCat
 
 
 Thank you, I hope we can make it work in our environment as well...
 
 I keep searching and reading xCat docs - here is good one -
 http://sumavi.com/books/xcat-administrators-guide.
 BTW, if you have any docs outside of xcat.org site, please share... At
 this point I'm looking for xCat overview docs, i.e. to understand the
 process.
 
 Looks like xCat makes extensive use of DHCP server to manage nodes. Are
 you using different DHCPd servers for VCL VMs and xCat nodes, or just
 keep everything on one DHCP server and being careful with which MAC
 gets what?
 
 Thanks again for your help...
 
 On Feb 10, 2012, at 9:30 , Aaron Peeler wrote:
 
 Dmitri,
 
 Just to add to Amit, comments.
 
 We use xCAT extensively here at ncsu. From provisioning end-user
 desktops and our hypervisors. xCAT very helpful when needed to
 install
 a chassis full of blades with esxi.
 
 As your installing xCAT  You'll want to review
 https://cwiki.apache.org/VCL/adding-support-for-partimage-and-
 partimag
 e-ng-to-xcat-2x-unofficial.html We added in VCL support for partimage
 - which is used to capture the disk images of end-user
 environments/desktops for windows and linux.
 
 When your adding nodes to vcl through the manage computers tool, make
 sure to choose xCAT 2.x .  If your doing windows bare-metal, you'll
 also need to include sysprep and related mass storage drivers so it
 can be reloaded successfully.
 
 For sysprep review step 8 on this page:
 
 https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/VCL/VCL+2.2.1+Management+N
 ode+Installation
 
 Hope this info helps,
 Aaron
 
 
 On Thu, Feb 9, 2012 at 4:03 PM, Dmitri Chebotarov dcheb...@gmu.edu
 wrote:
 
 Amit,
 
 Thanks a lot.
 
 
 On Feb 9, 2012, at 15:57 , Kumar, Amit H. wrote:
 
 Hi Dmitri,
 
 You general idea is correct to my best understanding.
 
 Install Path in the Edit management Node will be the path for
 xCAT(bare metal) image repository. In addition when you configure the
 Site table in xCAT you will set the installdir to point to the
 location where you will store your images.
 
 We have IBM E Blade Chassis with HS22 blade servers.
 
 Best,
 Amit
 
 -Original Message-
 From: dcheb...@gmu.edu [mailto:dcheb...@gmu.edu]
 Sent: Thursday, February 09, 2012 3:44 PM
 To: vcl-user@incubator.apache.org
 Subject: Re: VCL and xCat
 
 
 Amit,
 
 I'm trying to get general idea about xCat/VCL : so, basically xCat
 needs to be installed and configured on VCL Mgm node(s) before it
 can be used with VCL, and I should be able to successfully
 provision xCat nodes/clients with different images. Once xCat is
 working then I can add bare-metal computers - blade with xCat 2.x
 engine. Does it sound right?
 
 How do you tell VCL where to get image files for xCat nodes - is
 it
 'Install Path' setting under Management Nodes - Edit management
 node information?
 
 What kind of hardware do you have for xCat nodes? Are those IBM
 blade servers or/and PCs?
 
 
 Thanks.
 
 
 On Feb 9, 2012, at 15:16 , Kumar, Amit H. wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 We do not need an additional/dedicated server to do both xCAT and
 VCL
 together, your management node can serve as your xCAT server.
 
 I would recommend getting xCAT to work by itself before using VCL
 to
 manage your images and guest OS.
 
 This has worked well for us so far.
 
 :Amit
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: dcheb...@gmu.edu [mailto:dcheb...@gmu.edu]
 Sent: Thursday, February 09, 2012 3:03 PM
 To: vcl-user@incubator.apache.org
 Subject: VCL and xCat
 
 Hi All
 
 Anyone is using xCat with VCL?
 
 I have generic question about xCat and VCL - where do I start?
 Do I need working xCat environment before I can add it to VCL?
 Does xCat need dedicated server? Or does it run on the VCL
 management
 node?
 Are there any special hardware requirements for xCat clients?
 
 
 Thank you.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 Thank you.
 
 -
 Dmitri Chebotarov
 dcheb...@gmu.edu
 703-993-6175
 -
 
 
 
 
 
 
 Thank you.
 
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 dcheb...@gmu.edu
 703-993-6175
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RE: VCL and xCat

2012-02-10 Thread Kumar, Amit H.
Hi Dmitri,

We use xCAT 2.5.2; I am not a pro to say if xCAT 2.6.x will work. 
May be Aaron and his group could say more.

Thank you,
Amit


 -Original Message-
 From: dcheb...@gmu.edu [mailto:dcheb...@gmu.edu]
 Sent: Friday, February 10, 2012 11:37 AM
 To: vcl-user@incubator.apache.org
 Subject: Re: VCL and xCat
 
 
 Thank you.
 
 What version of xCat do you use? Since VCL supports xCat 2.x, is it
 safe to use latest xCat 2.6.10? Thanks.
 
 On Feb 10, 2012, at 11:27 , Kumar, Amit H. wrote:
 
  Hi Dmitri,
 
  SUMAVI link that you have is a real good one, I blindly followed it
 and then slowly things started to make more sense once it worked.
  Also xCAT forum was very helpful.
 
  Thank you,
  Amit
 
  -Original Message-
  From: dcheb...@gmu.edu [mailto:dcheb...@gmu.edu]
  Sent: Friday, February 10, 2012 10:15 AM
  To: vcl-user@incubator.apache.org; aaron_pee...@ncsu.edu
  Subject: Re: VCL and xCat
 
 
  Thank you, I hope we can make it work in our environment as well...
 
  I keep searching and reading xCat docs - here is good one -
  http://sumavi.com/books/xcat-administrators-guide.
  BTW, if you have any docs outside of xcat.org site, please share...
  At this point I'm looking for xCat overview docs, i.e. to understand
  the process.
 
  Looks like xCat makes extensive use of DHCP server to manage nodes.
  Are you using different DHCPd servers for VCL VMs and xCat nodes, or
  just keep everything on one DHCP server and being careful with which
  MAC gets what?
 
  Thanks again for your help...
 
  On Feb 10, 2012, at 9:30 , Aaron Peeler wrote:
 
  Dmitri,
 
  Just to add to Amit, comments.
 
  We use xCAT extensively here at ncsu. From provisioning end-user
  desktops and our hypervisors. xCAT very helpful when needed to
  install
  a chassis full of blades with esxi.
 
  As your installing xCAT  You'll want to review
  https://cwiki.apache.org/VCL/adding-support-for-partimage-and-
  partimag
  e-ng-to-xcat-2x-unofficial.html We added in VCL support for
  partimage
  - which is used to capture the disk images of end-user
  environments/desktops for windows and linux.
 
  When your adding nodes to vcl through the manage computers tool,
  make sure to choose xCAT 2.x .  If your doing windows bare-metal,
  you'll also need to include sysprep and related mass storage
 drivers
  so it can be reloaded successfully.
 
  For sysprep review step 8 on this page:
 
 
 https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/VCL/VCL+2.2.1+Management+
  N
  ode+Installation
 
  Hope this info helps,
  Aaron
 
 
  On Thu, Feb 9, 2012 at 4:03 PM, Dmitri Chebotarov
 dcheb...@gmu.edu
  wrote:
 
  Amit,
 
  Thanks a lot.
 
 
  On Feb 9, 2012, at 15:57 , Kumar, Amit H. wrote:
 
  Hi Dmitri,
 
  You general idea is correct to my best understanding.
 
  Install Path in the Edit management Node will be the path for
  xCAT(bare metal) image repository. In addition when you configure
 the
  Site table in xCAT you will set the installdir to point to the
  location where you will store your images.
 
  We have IBM E Blade Chassis with HS22 blade servers.
 
  Best,
  Amit
 
  -Original Message-
  From: dcheb...@gmu.edu [mailto:dcheb...@gmu.edu]
  Sent: Thursday, February 09, 2012 3:44 PM
  To: vcl-user@incubator.apache.org
  Subject: Re: VCL and xCat
 
 
  Amit,
 
  I'm trying to get general idea about xCat/VCL : so, basically
  xCat needs to be installed and configured on VCL Mgm node(s)
  before it can be used with VCL, and I should be able to
  successfully provision xCat nodes/clients with different images.
  Once xCat is working then I can add bare-metal computers - blade
  with xCat 2.x engine. Does it sound right?
 
  How do you tell VCL where to get image files for xCat nodes - is
  it
  'Install Path' setting under Management Nodes - Edit management
  node information?
 
  What kind of hardware do you have for xCat nodes? Are those IBM
  blade servers or/and PCs?
 
 
  Thanks.
 
 
  On Feb 9, 2012, at 15:16 , Kumar, Amit H. wrote:
 
  Hi,
 
  We do not need an additional/dedicated server to do both xCAT
  and VCL
  together, your management node can serve as your xCAT server.
 
  I would recommend getting xCAT to work by itself before using
  VCL to
  manage your images and guest OS.
 
  This has worked well for us so far.
 
  :Amit
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: dcheb...@gmu.edu [mailto:dcheb...@gmu.edu]
  Sent: Thursday, February 09, 2012 3:03 PM
  To: vcl-user@incubator.apache.org
  Subject: VCL and xCat
 
  Hi All
 
  Anyone is using xCat with VCL?
 
  I have generic question about xCat and VCL - where do I start?
  Do I need working xCat environment before I can add it to VCL?
  Does xCat need dedicated server? Or does it run on the VCL
  management
  node?
  Are there any special hardware requirements for xCat
 clients?
 
 
  Thank you.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  Thank you.
 
  -
  Dmitri Chebotarov
  dcheb...@gmu.edu
  703-993-6175
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  Thank you.
 
  

Re: VCL and xCat

2012-02-10 Thread Aaron Peeler
Yes, we're using the latest xCAT version.

-A

On Fri, Feb 10, 2012 at 11:42 AM, Kumar, Amit H. ahku...@odu.edu wrote:
 Hi Dmitri,

 We use xCAT 2.5.2; I am not a pro to say if xCAT 2.6.x will work.
 May be Aaron and his group could say more.

 Thank you,
 Amit


 -Original Message-
 From: dcheb...@gmu.edu [mailto:dcheb...@gmu.edu]
 Sent: Friday, February 10, 2012 11:37 AM
 To: vcl-user@incubator.apache.org
 Subject: Re: VCL and xCat


 Thank you.

 What version of xCat do you use? Since VCL supports xCat 2.x, is it
 safe to use latest xCat 2.6.10? Thanks.

 On Feb 10, 2012, at 11:27 , Kumar, Amit H. wrote:

  Hi Dmitri,
 
  SUMAVI link that you have is a real good one, I blindly followed it
 and then slowly things started to make more sense once it worked.
  Also xCAT forum was very helpful.
 
  Thank you,
  Amit
 
  -Original Message-
  From: dcheb...@gmu.edu [mailto:dcheb...@gmu.edu]
  Sent: Friday, February 10, 2012 10:15 AM
  To: vcl-user@incubator.apache.org; aaron_pee...@ncsu.edu
  Subject: Re: VCL and xCat
 
 
  Thank you, I hope we can make it work in our environment as well...
 
  I keep searching and reading xCat docs - here is good one -
  http://sumavi.com/books/xcat-administrators-guide.
  BTW, if you have any docs outside of xcat.org site, please share...
  At this point I'm looking for xCat overview docs, i.e. to understand
  the process.
 
  Looks like xCat makes extensive use of DHCP server to manage nodes.
  Are you using different DHCPd servers for VCL VMs and xCat nodes, or
  just keep everything on one DHCP server and being careful with which
  MAC gets what?
 
  Thanks again for your help...
 
  On Feb 10, 2012, at 9:30 , Aaron Peeler wrote:
 
  Dmitri,
 
  Just to add to Amit, comments.
 
  We use xCAT extensively here at ncsu. From provisioning end-user
  desktops and our hypervisors. xCAT very helpful when needed to
  install
  a chassis full of blades with esxi.
 
  As your installing xCAT  You'll want to review
  https://cwiki.apache.org/VCL/adding-support-for-partimage-and-
  partimag
  e-ng-to-xcat-2x-unofficial.html We added in VCL support for
  partimage
  - which is used to capture the disk images of end-user
  environments/desktops for windows and linux.
 
  When your adding nodes to vcl through the manage computers tool,
  make sure to choose xCAT 2.x .  If your doing windows bare-metal,
  you'll also need to include sysprep and related mass storage
 drivers
  so it can be reloaded successfully.
 
  For sysprep review step 8 on this page:
 
 
 https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/VCL/VCL+2.2.1+Management+
  N
  ode+Installation
 
  Hope this info helps,
  Aaron
 
 
  On Thu, Feb 9, 2012 at 4:03 PM, Dmitri Chebotarov
 dcheb...@gmu.edu
  wrote:
 
  Amit,
 
  Thanks a lot.
 
 
  On Feb 9, 2012, at 15:57 , Kumar, Amit H. wrote:
 
  Hi Dmitri,
 
  You general idea is correct to my best understanding.
 
  Install Path in the Edit management Node will be the path for
  xCAT(bare metal) image repository. In addition when you configure
 the
  Site table in xCAT you will set the installdir to point to the
  location where you will store your images.
 
  We have IBM E Blade Chassis with HS22 blade servers.
 
  Best,
  Amit
 
  -Original Message-
  From: dcheb...@gmu.edu [mailto:dcheb...@gmu.edu]
  Sent: Thursday, February 09, 2012 3:44 PM
  To: vcl-user@incubator.apache.org
  Subject: Re: VCL and xCat
 
 
  Amit,
 
  I'm trying to get general idea about xCat/VCL : so, basically
  xCat needs to be installed and configured on VCL Mgm node(s)
  before it can be used with VCL, and I should be able to
  successfully provision xCat nodes/clients with different images.
  Once xCat is working then I can add bare-metal computers - blade
  with xCat 2.x engine. Does it sound right?
 
  How do you tell VCL where to get image files for xCat nodes - is
  it
  'Install Path' setting under Management Nodes - Edit management
  node information?
 
  What kind of hardware do you have for xCat nodes? Are those IBM
  blade servers or/and PCs?
 
 
  Thanks.
 
 
  On Feb 9, 2012, at 15:16 , Kumar, Amit H. wrote:
 
  Hi,
 
  We do not need an additional/dedicated server to do both xCAT
  and VCL
  together, your management node can serve as your xCAT server.
 
  I would recommend getting xCAT to work by itself before using
  VCL to
  manage your images and guest OS.
 
  This has worked well for us so far.
 
  :Amit
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: dcheb...@gmu.edu [mailto:dcheb...@gmu.edu]
  Sent: Thursday, February 09, 2012 3:03 PM
  To: vcl-user@incubator.apache.org
  Subject: VCL and xCat
 
  Hi All
 
  Anyone is using xCat with VCL?
 
  I have generic question about xCat and VCL - where do I start?
  Do I need working xCat environment before I can add it to VCL?
  Does xCat need dedicated server? Or does it run on the VCL
  management
  node?
  Are there any special hardware requirements for xCat
 clients?
 
 
  Thank you.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  Thank you.