Re: Thin client with VCL
Thank you for sharing the information - these are all good points. Thank you. -- Dmitri Chebotarov Virtual Computing Lab Systems Engineer, TSD - Ent Servers Messaging 223 Aquia Building, Ffx, MSN: 1B5 Phone: (703) 993-6175 Fax: (703) 993-3404 On Tuesday, April 10, 2012 at 11:26 , Henry Schaffer wrote: Michael's point about testing is excellent! :-) Other considerations include comparing prices - the price of desktop computer has decreased greatly in the past few years, narrowing the price difference from thin clients. Also consider how you might want to use the desktop/local machines. The VCL is a desktop augmentation setup - so you likely want to use the local machines for web surfing, e-mail, perhaps word processing ..., what else. That decision impacts the price of the thin client. --henry schaffer On Tue, Apr 10, 2012 at 10:59 AM, Michael Jinks mji...@uchicago.edu (mailto:mji...@uchicago.edu) wrote: Several years ago, we put thin clients (Sun Ray) in all our public computing spaces and computer-equipped classrooms. They work great for most things, and they do indeed save lots of expense and hassle. We're now in the process of going back to PC's, though. There are several reasons, but the one that might apply to other sites is remote display of graphically-intensive applications. 3D rendering is the obvious one, but there are also a few legacy (DOS-era) scientific graphing packages that don't play well with a network-connected display, and the accumulated latency during real-time graphing appears to the user as a drastic slowdown in performance. So, test all your apps thoroughly before you commit. On Tue, Apr 10, 2012 at 09:41:11AM -0400, Dmitri Chebotarov wrote: Hi All, Is anyone here is using a thin client with VCL? I.e. Dell FX100 or similar? (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thin_client). This could work well with VCL, since most of thin boxes support RDP. Interesting to see how a thin client compares to a regular PC in classroom environment. Seems like this would be a better option - less expensive, less admin overhead, more secure, and with all the benefits of VCL... Thanks. -- Dmitri Chebotarov Virtual Computing Lab Systems Engineer, TSD - Ent Servers Messaging 223 Aquia Building, Ffx, MSN: 1B5 Phone: (703) 993-6175 Fax: (703) 993-3404 -- Michael Jinks :: mji...@uchicago.edu (mailto:mji...@uchicago.edu) :: 773-469-9688 University of Chicago IT Services
Thin client with VCL
Hi All, Is anyone here is using a thin client with VCL? I.e. Dell FX100 or similar? (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thin_client). This could work well with VCL, since most of thin boxes support RDP. Interesting to see how a thin client compares to a regular PC in classroom environment. Seems like this would be a better option - less expensive, less admin overhead, more secure, and with all the benefits of VCL... Thanks. -- Dmitri Chebotarov Virtual Computing Lab Systems Engineer, TSD - Ent Servers Messaging 223 Aquia Building, Ffx, MSN: 1B5 Phone: (703) 993-6175 Fax: (703) 993-3404
Re: Thin client with VCL
Several years ago, we put thin clients (Sun Ray) in all our public computing spaces and computer-equipped classrooms. They work great for most things, and they do indeed save lots of expense and hassle. We're now in the process of going back to PC's, though. There are several reasons, but the one that might apply to other sites is remote display of graphically-intensive applications. 3D rendering is the obvious one, but there are also a few legacy (DOS-era) scientific graphing packages that don't play well with a network-connected display, and the accumulated latency during real-time graphing appears to the user as a drastic slowdown in performance. So, test all your apps thoroughly before you commit. On Tue, Apr 10, 2012 at 09:41:11AM -0400, Dmitri Chebotarov wrote: Hi All, Is anyone here is using a thin client with VCL? I.e. Dell FX100 or similar? (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thin_client). This could work well with VCL, since most of thin boxes support RDP. Interesting to see how a thin client compares to a regular PC in classroom environment. Seems like this would be a better option - less expensive, less admin overhead, more secure, and with all the benefits of VCL... Thanks. -- Dmitri Chebotarov Virtual Computing Lab Systems Engineer, TSD - Ent Servers Messaging 223 Aquia Building, Ffx, MSN: 1B5 Phone: (703) 993-6175 Fax: (703) 993-3404 -- Michael Jinks :: mji...@uchicago.edu :: 773-469-9688 University of Chicago IT Services
Re: Thin client with VCL
Michael's point about testing is excellent! :-) Other considerations include comparing prices - the price of desktop computer has decreased greatly in the past few years, narrowing the price difference from thin clients. Also consider how you might want to use the desktop/local machines. The VCL is a desktop augmentation setup - so you likely want to use the local machines for web surfing, e-mail, perhaps word processing ..., what else. That decision impacts the price of the thin client. --henry schaffer On Tue, Apr 10, 2012 at 10:59 AM, Michael Jinks mji...@uchicago.edu wrote: Several years ago, we put thin clients (Sun Ray) in all our public computing spaces and computer-equipped classrooms. They work great for most things, and they do indeed save lots of expense and hassle. We're now in the process of going back to PC's, though. There are several reasons, but the one that might apply to other sites is remote display of graphically-intensive applications. 3D rendering is the obvious one, but there are also a few legacy (DOS-era) scientific graphing packages that don't play well with a network-connected display, and the accumulated latency during real-time graphing appears to the user as a drastic slowdown in performance. So, test all your apps thoroughly before you commit. On Tue, Apr 10, 2012 at 09:41:11AM -0400, Dmitri Chebotarov wrote: Hi All, Is anyone here is using a thin client with VCL? I.e. Dell FX100 or similar? (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thin_client). This could work well with VCL, since most of thin boxes support RDP. Interesting to see how a thin client compares to a regular PC in classroom environment. Seems like this would be a better option - less expensive, less admin overhead, more secure, and with all the benefits of VCL... Thanks. -- Dmitri Chebotarov Virtual Computing Lab Systems Engineer, TSD - Ent Servers Messaging 223 Aquia Building, Ffx, MSN: 1B5 Phone: (703) 993-6175 Fax: (703) 993-3404 -- Michael Jinks :: mji...@uchicago.edu :: 773-469-9688 University of Chicago IT Services
