Re: [vdr] FreeviewHD compressed EPG

2011-10-25 Thread Dominic Morris

On Tue, 25 Oct 2011, Dominic Evans wrote:


On 24 October 2011 12:58, Stuart Morris stuart_mor...@talk21.com wrote:

The patch is here:
http://www.rst38.org.uk/vdr/freesat.diff

The first hunk fails to apply but this is ok because that part of the
patch is relevant to freesat only.


FYI I did previously rebase the patch for vdr 1.7.8 and newer (which
had changed eit.c slightly) and send it to the maintainer, but he
hasn't updated on his website.


Oops, sorry about that, that's dropped off the end of my todo list.


Please can you provide these tables somewhere?


Complete tables are here:

http://rst38.org.uk/vdr/freesat_tables_complete.zip

cheers,

dom



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Re: [vdr] FreeviewHD compressed EPG

2011-10-25 Thread Dominic Morris

On Tue, 25 Oct 2011, Dominic Evans wrote:

On 25 October 2011 14:27, Tony Houghton h...@realh.co.uk wrote:

On Tue, 25 Oct 2011 13:54:36 +0100 (BST)
Dominic Morris d...@suborbital.org.uk wrote:


Complete tables are here:

http://rst38.org.uk/vdr/freesat_tables_complete.zip


Those are the ones with holes in aren't they? Stuart Morris said he had
to port the tables from eepg.


No, I believe EEPG took these exact tables from the same source(s) as
Dom got them. Its just the freesat.diff hadn't been updated to contain
the complete tables 'in-patch'.


That's correct. The ones in the patch are those deduced through 
observation, there's an updated version of those here:
http://rst38.org.uk/vdr/freesat_tables_20081027.zip Those files are 
completely legitimate.


The complete tables were extracted from an OTA firmware upgrade and are 
complete. They may have dubious legality.


cheers,

dom


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Re: [vdr] UK FreeviewHD and VDR

2011-08-11 Thread Dominic Morris

Hi,

On Thu, 11 Aug 2011, Chris Rankin wrote:

The patch here for VDR (with separate drop in files freesat.t1 and 
freesat.t2) looks interesting, and would seem to allow VDR to read the 
compressed EPG in a transparent way. However, it has obviously not been 
merged to VDR in over 2 years, which would suggest that the VDR 
developers have rejected it for some reason.


I haven't pushed it upstream to Klaus, I think the preferable solution is 
to do it as a plugin - search for the eepg plugin which incorporates the 
parsing code.


P.S. Yes, I know that I am assuming that FreeSat and FreeviewHD are 
using the same proprietary Huffman tables. But I'm also under the 
impression that this assumption is not a bad one.


Yup, same tables, same PIDs - they're also broadcast on some of the DVB-T 
muxes as well.


Regards,

dom



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Re: [vdr] Freesat EPG

2009-02-27 Thread Dominic Morris
On Fri, 27 Feb 2009, Tony Houghton wrote:

 I've had a quick look at the Freesat EPG patch for VDR to try to
 understand how it works. I think I've read that the Freesat EPG is
 broadcast on Eurobird (and only on one transponder?) whereas most of the
 programs are actually broadcast on Astra 28.2E, but the patch doesn't
 seem to add anything to VDR for selecting transponders.

I believe that it's broadcast on all Freesat transponders, certainly for 
me, tuning to a BBC channel starts pulling in all the EPG info.

 I'd also like to find some more information about the Huffman encoding
 tables it uses. Apparently these need updating periodically. Are the
 tables broadcast alongside the EPG, but means to receive them hasn't
 made it into the VDR patch (yet)?

They're hardcoded into STB so the complete tables zip file won't need 
updating - the only reason why the tables might need updating is if you're 
using the derived by observation set, which I've not had a chance to do 
recently - stick to the complete set and you can't go wrong.

 I'd also like to know if and how Freesat's logical channel numbers are
 broadcast and if there are alternative SDTs, PATs and PMTs especially
 for Freesat instead of the BSkyB ones.

As far as I've seen everything is fairly standard, though the tables are 
off set by 3800 pids, so the BAT is at pid 3841. In terms of features I 
suspect that if you look at how Freeview handles thing, add 3800 to the 
pid then things will be the same - certainly TVAnytime is implemented the 
same.

Regards,

d.


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Re: [vdr] Sky/Freesat EPG

2008-11-29 Thread Dominic Morris
On Sat, 29 Nov 2008, Luca Olivetti wrote:

 I'm now using the Complete tables (thanks to bdb at digitalspy) and
 deleted epg.data before starting vdr, but still most of the titles are
 no title. Even those with a proper title (not many) have no
 additional details (i.e. there's just the title)

The patch logs in the syslog when it loads/fails to load the tables:

Loading table 1 Filename /etc/vdr/freesat.t1
Loading table 2 Filename /etc/vdr/freesat.t2
Cannot load /etc/vdr/freesat.t1 for table 1
Cannot load /etc/vdr/freesat.t2 for table 2

If the tables aren't loaded, then an empty title/description is returned 
and your logs will probably be spammed with:

Missing table 1/2 entry: 

cheers,

d.


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Re: [vdr] Sky/Freesat EPG

2008-11-29 Thread Dominic Morris
On Sat, 29 Nov 2008, Luca Olivetti wrote:

 I omitted the trailing slash in the definition, so it didn't find the
 files.

Ah yes, that would do it!

 I corrected it and now I don't have no titles anymore, but there are
 many holes in the epg ( e.g. on bbc 1 e mids I have epg for today, the
 first 3 programmes of tomorrow, then it skips to the 2nd and from there
 to the 6th).
 Is it because they're slow broadcasting it?

Yup, it's quite slow coming in, certainly  30 minutes if I remember 
correctly.

cheers,

d.


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