Re: [vdr] Centralized VDR solution?

2007-01-09 Thread lamikr

 I am using Hauppauge MediaMVPs to connect to a central VDR system
 containing 3 DVB-S cards. VOMP is running on the MediaMVPs
 (http://www.loggytronic.com) and apart from missing
 * DVD support
 * Cutting

 this system contains everything I want. And it has a great WAF factor :-)
   
What kind of network is needed for good picture quality, is 100 mb lan
enough or is 1 gb needed?

Mika


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Re: [vdr] Centralized VDR solution?

2007-01-09 Thread Marko Mäkelä
On Tue, Jan 09, 2007 at 12:58:10PM +0200, lamikr wrote:
 
  I am using Hauppauge MediaMVPs to connect to a central VDR system
  containing 3 DVB-S cards. VOMP is running on the MediaMVPs
  (http://www.loggytronic.com) and apart from missing
  * DVD support
  * Cutting
 
  this system contains everything I want. And it has a great WAF factor :-)

 What kind of network is needed for good picture quality, is 100 mb lan
 enough or is 1 gb needed?

100 Mb/s LAN is enough.  Come to think of it, the SDTV DVB stream is only
a few megabits per second, and it is the compressed MPEG stream that is
being transferred.  However, I wouldn't try this over WLAN.

Marko

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Re: [vdr] Centralized VDR solution?

2007-01-09 Thread Vladimir Kangin
On Tue, 2007-01-09 at 12:58 +0200, lamikr wrote:
  I am using Hauppauge MediaMVPs to connect to a central VDR system
  containing 3 DVB-S cards. VOMP is running on the MediaMVPs
  (http://www.loggytronic.com) and apart from missing
  * DVD support
  * Cutting
 
  this system contains everything I want. And it has a great WAF factor :-)

 What kind of network is needed for good picture quality, is 100 mb lan
 enough or is 1 gb needed?
 
 Mika

Mika,

Have a look another projects either www.plutohome.org or www.mythtv.org

It's was designed as a Centralized solution and working out of the box
quite well.

Vladimir


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Re: [vdr] Centralized VDR solution?

2007-01-09 Thread Peer Oliver Schmidt

Vladimir Kangin schrieb:

On Tue, 2007-01-09 at 12:58 +0200, lamikr wrote:

I am using Hauppauge MediaMVPs to connect to a central VDR system
containing 3 DVB-S cards. VOMP is running on the MediaMVPs
(http://www.loggytronic.com) and apart from missing
* DVD support
* Cutting

this system contains everything I want. And it has a great WAF factor :-)
  

What kind of network is needed for good picture quality, is 100 mb lan
enough or is 1 gb needed?


People on the VOMP forum are using it over WLAN. I am using it on a 
switched 100Mbit net without a problem.




Have a look another projects either www.plutohome.org or www.mythtv.org


Especially plutohome.org seems to be, with regards to VDR, in a not so 
Plug'n'Play state at the moment. In the german vdr-portal are some 
discussions with regards to implementing VDR within plutohome



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Re: [vdr] Centralized VDR solution?

2007-01-09 Thread Tony Houghton
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Marko Mäkelä wrote:

 100 Mb/s LAN is enough.  Come to think of it, the SDTV DVB stream is only
 a few megabits per second, and it is the compressed MPEG stream that is
 being transferred.  However, I wouldn't try this over WLAN.

The error protection in streaming protocols didn't seem to be able to
cope when I tried over WLAN (54g with not terribly good reception). IIRC
I was using dvbstream. However, the same connection nearly always worked
fine, except on one or two occasions, for watching a recording over NFS.

-- 
TH * http://www.realh.co.uk

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Re: [vdr] Centralized VDR solution?

2007-01-09 Thread Luca Olivetti

En/na Tony Houghton ha escrit:

In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Marko Mäkelä wrote:


100 Mb/s LAN is enough.  Come to think of it, the SDTV DVB stream is only
a few megabits per second, and it is the compressed MPEG stream that is
being transferred.  However, I wouldn't try this over WLAN.


The error protection in streaming protocols didn't seem to be able to
cope when I tried over WLAN (54g with not terribly good reception). IIRC
I was using dvbstream. However, the same connection nearly always worked
fine, except on one or two occasions, for watching a recording over NFS.


I routinely use an WLAN connection with vdr and the xine plugin (with 
network patches). No problem here.


Bye
--
Luca

A: Because it destroys the flow of the conversation
Q: Why is it bad?
A: No, it's bad.
Q: Should I top post in replies to mailing lists?

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Re: [vdr] Centralized VDR solution?

2007-01-08 Thread Kartsa

Pasi Juppo kirjoitti:

Peer Oliver Schmidt wrote:
  

I am using Hauppauge MediaMVPs to connect to a central VDR system
containing 3 DVB-S cards. VOMP is running on the MediaMVPs
(http://www.loggytronic.com) and apart from missing
* DVD support
* Cutting

this system contains everything I want. And it has a great WAF factor :-)



Now this looked very good! Almost exactly what I was after. Few things
missing still but seems that there is active development thus will be
implemented later on.
  
I took a look at this also. It seems good as long as you do not watch 
channels with subtitles. And we do have those in finland (YLE).

Few things missing:
-HDTV due to HW. Any idea if there is going to be HDTV version of the HW
later on? Most likely HTPC is much better solution for HDTV anyway due
to deinterlace and scaling which requires quite much CPU power (see next
Q about PC version of VOMP).

  

Subtitle support should be added to missing things.

-similar (or same) system running on PC. The idea for kitchen (yes, I'd
like to have TV on kitchen for the morning news) TV would be to use All
in one LCD -type of PC such as this:
http://hitony.en.alibaba.com/product/0/51321326/15__All_in_One_LCD_PC.html

Does VOMP work on normal PC as well (I missed this info)?
  
There is also a windows client if this is what you meant. Can be found 
on the same site.

-the graphics on VOMP I assume is not changeable (no skin or theme
support - would require recompiling I assume but still)?


What about the picture quality of the MediaMVP: is it good, average, poor?

Anyway, this is very good news!

Br, Pasi

  
Even though missing subtitles I decided to get a MediaMVP for my self as 
a bedroom box.


\\Kartsa

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Re: [vdr] Centralized VDR solution?

2007-01-06 Thread Torgeir Veimo
On Sat, 2007-01-06 at 20:10 +0100, Peer Oliver Schmidt wrote:
 
  Is there a solution (reliable) for this kind of system available?
 
 I am using Hauppauge MediaMVPs to connect to a central VDR system
 containing 3 DVB-S cards. VOMP is running on the MediaMVPs
 (http://www.loggytronic.com) and apart from missing
 * DVD support
 * Cutting 

No dropped frames, bad av sync or other playback issues?

-- 
Torgeir Veimo [EMAIL PROTECTED]


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Re: [vdr] Centralized VDR solution?

2007-01-06 Thread Friedhelm Büscher

Peer Oliver Schmidt wrote:


I am using Hauppauge MediaMVPs to connect to a central VDR system
containing 3 DVB-S cards. VOMP is running on the MediaMVPs
(http://www.loggytronic.com) and apart from missing
* DVD support
* Cutting



right now i'm working on implementing full cuttingmarks support on vomp. After Chris 
accepted the basics of cutting marks (loading from server, display  jump), i'm now 
working on setting/deleting/moving and uploading marks to server. News about this will be 
posted to loggytronic board.


regards,
Friedhelm

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Re: [vdr] Centralized VDR solution?

2007-01-06 Thread Peer Oliver Schmidt
Torgeir Veimo wrote:
 On Sat, 2007-01-06 at 20:10 +0100, Peer Oliver Schmidt wrote:
 Is there a solution (reliable) for this kind of system available?
 I am using Hauppauge MediaMVPs to connect to a central VDR system
 containing 3 DVB-S cards. VOMP is running on the MediaMVPs
 No dropped frames, bad av sync or other playback issues?

Nothing that can't be fixed by either switching a channel or
pause/play on the remote.
-- 
Best regards

Peer Oliver Schmidt
the internet company
PGP Key ID: 0x83E1C2EA


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Re: [vdr] Centralized VDR solution?

2007-01-06 Thread Laz
On Saturday 06 January 2007 20:16, Peer Oliver Schmidt wrote:
 Torgeir Veimo wrote:
  On Sat, 2007-01-06 at 20:10 +0100, Peer Oliver Schmidt wrote:
  Is there a solution (reliable) for this kind of system available?
 
  I am using Hauppauge MediaMVPs to connect to a central VDR system
  containing 3 DVB-S cards. VOMP is running on the MediaMVPs
 
  No dropped frames, bad av sync or other playback issues?

 Nothing that can't be fixed by either switching a channel or
 pause/play on the remote.

This looks quite interesting... I've currently got about three full PCs using 
nfs-mounted /video directories. Would be a much nicer solution to use a thin 
client setup.

What video output(s) has the MVP actually got? I've just been reading stuff on 
the web and I've seen composite, S-video, and RGB component mentioned in 
various places. Are there different versions of these things, apart from 
wired / wireless?

Does it really work this well? I'm not too bothered about editing recordings 
from it (use vdrsync for that!) but setting timers would be useful.

Cheers,

Laz

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