Re: [vdr] How to properly attach stream to live view?
Hi Udo, On Sun, 18 Jul 2010 15:45:02 +0200, Udo Richter wrote In short, -1 receivers are supposed to be disconnectable at any time, but transfer mode runs at -1 priority too, and should not be disconnected. Transfer mode runs at -1 so that an existing transfer mode does not block channel switching. The solution is to let the channel switch code know that the transfer source device will soon be available. Good shot. Streamdev suffers from a similar problem and would benefit from this patch, too. If a streamdev-client prepars to switch channels, the current stream blocks a device which will also become available a little later. At the moment streamdev temporarily detaches the client's receiver if no other device is able to do the job anyway. With the volatile flag this should no longer be necessary. Cheers, Frank ___ vdr mailing list vdr@linuxtv.org http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/vdr
Re: [vdr] How to properly attach stream to live view?
Hi list, hi Klaus, In continuation of this old topic [1] and the bug ticket [2]: I've written a patch that changes handling of receivers in VDR. The patch makes sure that receivers of priority of -1 won't block a device, without re-introducing the Live TV Freeze [3] bug. Details of this issue are very well documented in [2], patches are also available there. In short, -1 receivers are supposed to be disconnectable at any time, but transfer mode runs at -1 priority too, and should not be disconnected. Transfer mode runs at -1 so that an existing transfer mode does not block channel switching. The solution is to let the channel switch code know that the transfer source device will soon be available. Cheers, Udo [1] http://www.linuxtv.org/pipermail/vdr/2008-June/017073.html [2] http://projects.vdr-developer.org/issues/show/10 [3] http://linuxtv.org/mailinglists/vdr/2004/05-2004/msg00115.html ___ vdr mailing list vdr@linuxtv.org http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/vdr
[vdr] How to properly attach stream to live view?
Hi list, Is there a proper way to attach another stream receiver to the currently receiving channel, and - more important - disconnect it properly on channel change? The problem arises from difficulties with the osdteletext plugin. (see http://www.vdr-portal.de/board/thread.php?threadid=70372 ) The problem of the current implementation is that on channel change the teletext receiving stream is disconnected on cStatus::ChannelSwitch(dev,0), which is _after_ GetDevice picked the device for the next channel. And since the teletext stream is still being received, the primary receiving device (FF card) is 'in use' and has NeedsDetachReceiver set - so a budget card is preferred for live viewing. (FF cards normally use no cReceivers at all for live view, so the device is automatically 'free' on channel switch.) (Btw: On 2x budget only systems, it seems as if the live view will constantly switch between the devices for the same reason, or?) Taking a look at the subtitles receiver shows that the subtitles stream is disconnected at the beginning of cDevice::SetChannel, which is right before the GetDevice call, thus a FF card is 'free' again at the GetDevice call. If there's no proper way to solve this right now, I could imagine a few VDR changes that would: - Find a way to mark a receiver as being 'live related' and disconnect it before live channel switching. - Find a way to mark a receiver as being 'extremely unimportant', and don't count them as NeedsDetachReceiver or as Receiving() in that case, maybe by using -1 as priority. - Extend GetDevice to ignore some receivers that will be disconnected afterwards anyway - maybe define 'related' receivers that will disconnect together. - Notify plugins about the upcoming channel switch _before_ the GetDevice call, so live receivers can be disconnected. Cheers, Udo ___ vdr mailing list vdr@linuxtv.org http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/vdr
Re: [vdr] How to properly attach stream to live view?
On 06/07/08 12:43, Udo Richter wrote: Hi list, Is there a proper way to attach another stream receiver to the currently receiving channel, and - more important - disconnect it properly on channel change? The problem arises from difficulties with the osdteletext plugin. (see http://www.vdr-portal.de/board/thread.php?threadid=70372 ) The problem of the current implementation is that on channel change the teletext receiving stream is disconnected on cStatus::ChannelSwitch(dev,0), which is _after_ GetDevice picked the device for the next channel. And since the teletext stream is still being received, the primary receiving device (FF card) is 'in use' and has NeedsDetachReceiver set - so a budget card is preferred for live viewing. (FF cards normally use no cReceivers at all for live view, so the device is automatically 'free' on channel switch.) (Btw: On 2x budget only systems, it seems as if the live view will constantly switch between the devices for the same reason, or?) Taking a look at the subtitles receiver shows that the subtitles stream is disconnected at the beginning of cDevice::SetChannel, which is right before the GetDevice call, thus a FF card is 'free' again at the GetDevice call. If there's no proper way to solve this right now, I could imagine a few VDR changes that would: - Find a way to mark a receiver as being 'live related' and disconnect it before live channel switching. - Find a way to mark a receiver as being 'extremely unimportant', and don't count them as NeedsDetachReceiver or as Receiving() in that case, maybe by using -1 as priority. Using a negative priority would be the right way: cReceiver(tChannelID ChannelID, int Priority, int Pid, const int *Pids1 = NULL, const int *Pids2 = NULL, const int *Pids3 = NULL); /// ... /// Priority may be any value in the range -99..99. Negative values indicate /// that this cReceiver may be detached at any time (without blocking the /// cDevice it is attached to). Why does the osdteletext plugin use a non-negative priority at all? - Extend GetDevice to ignore some receivers that will be disconnected afterwards anyway - maybe define 'related' receivers that will disconnect together. - Notify plugins about the upcoming channel switch _before_ the GetDevice call, so live receivers can be disconnected. Klaus ___ vdr mailing list vdr@linuxtv.org http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/vdr
Re: [vdr] How to properly attach stream to live view?
Klaus Schmidinger wrote: - Find a way to mark a receiver as being 'extremely unimportant', and don't count them as NeedsDetachReceiver or as Receiving() in that case, maybe by using -1 as priority. Using a negative priority would be the right way: cReceiver(tChannelID ChannelID, int Priority, int Pid, const int *Pids1 = NULL, const int *Pids2 = NULL, const int *Pids3 = NULL); /// ... /// Priority may be any value in the range -99..99. Negative values indicate /// that this cReceiver may be detached at any time (without blocking the /// cDevice it is attached to). Why does the osdteletext plugin use a non-negative priority at all? Good question. Though, this alone doesn't fix it. This is VDR without osdteletext, switching to a different transponder: GetDevice: Device 0 Impact 020c4c6e Detach:0 GetDevice: Device 1 Impact 060c4c60 Detach:0 Device 0 is the FF card, device 1 is the budget card. The FF card gets a boost by the first rule: imp |= LiveView ? !device[i]-IsPrimaryDevice() || ndr : 0; The FF card is the primary device, and it has nothing to detach, so this is imp |= true ? !true || false : 0 returning false, giving the FF card a priority boost. The same with osdteletext (priority patched to -1) running: GetDevice: Device 0 Impact 060c4c7e Detach:1 GetDevice: Device 1 Impact 060c4c60 Detach:0 What happened? The ndr clause canceled the FF boost. The actual path in cDvbDevice::ProvidesChannel is ProvidesTransponder(Channel) - Priority = 0 Receiving(true) - !dvbTuner-IsTunedTo(Channel), leading to NeedsDetachReceivers=true. Priority=0 is the new live channel priority, not the -1 of osdteletext. Receiving(true) does count -1 receivers, as opposed to Receiving(false). The next counting rule is the 5'th last low priority rule to prefer channels without receivers. Cheers, Udo ___ vdr mailing list vdr@linuxtv.org http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/vdr
