Re: [vdr] Minimum CPU requirement for xineliboutput + vdr-sxfe for HDTV

2014-02-28 Thread VDR User
Using VDPAU drops the cpu requires to practically nothing. For
example, my weakest VDR box is running on an Intel Atom 230 1.6ghz
with ION gpu (1st gen). Watching 1080i with temporal-spatial
deinterlace, the cpu hovers around 12%. Even when using software
deinterlacing, it doesn't take a lot of cpu horsepower until you want
to use advanced/high quality deinterlacers.

That being said, it's hard to beat VDPAU. For the cost of about a $30
video card, you can turn an old piece of crap pc collecting dust in
your closet, into a full-blown htpc.

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Re: [vdr] Minimum CPU requirement for xineliboutput + vdr-sxfe for HDTV

2014-02-28 Thread Tony Houghton
On Fri, 28 Feb 2014 12:49:12 +0100
Michal Novotny  wrote:

> On 02/27/2014 09:29 PM, Stephan Loescher wrote:
> > I know from my own VDR-systems, that a Intel Core2 Duo @ 1.86GHz or a
> > Core i3 540 @ 3.07GHz has far enough power to run VDR and vdr-sxfe for
> > displaying HDTV.
> 
> My personal experience is that i5-2500K 3.30GHz plays HDTV well, but 
> playback on E6500 2.93GHz is jerky.

That's similar to my experience. I have a 3.1GHz i5-2400k and that can
playback HD smoothly, but my 3.2GHz Phenom couldn't. That might have
been my fault for not discovering the thread count option before using
the i5 though :-). The deinterlacing method makes a big difference too,
but xineliboutput makes that difficult to configure sensibly when you
have a mixture of clients with and without VDPAU.

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Re: [vdr] Minimum CPU requirement for xineliboutput + vdr-sxfe for HDTV

2014-02-28 Thread C . Rienecker


On 2014-02-28 12:49, Michal Novotny wrote:

On 02/27/2014 09:29 PM, Stephan Loescher wrote:

I know from my own VDR-systems, that a Intel Core2 Duo @ 1.86GHz or a
Core i3 540 @ 3.07GHz has far enough power to run VDR and vdr-sxfe for
displaying HDTV.


My personal experience is that i5-2500K 3.30GHz plays HDTV well, but 
playback on E6500 2.93GHz is jerky.


Michal



I'm using an Intel Atom 330@1.60Ghz with nVIDIA MCP7A-ION chipset using 
a VDPAU installation (yaVDR).


Christian.

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Re: [vdr] Minimum CPU requirement for xineliboutput + vdr-sxfe for HDTV

2014-02-28 Thread Michal Novotny

On 02/27/2014 09:29 PM, Stephan Loescher wrote:

I know from my own VDR-systems, that a Intel Core2 Duo @ 1.86GHz or a
Core i3 540 @ 3.07GHz has far enough power to run VDR and vdr-sxfe for
displaying HDTV.


My personal experience is that i5-2500K 3.30GHz plays HDTV well, but 
playback on E6500 2.93GHz is jerky.


Michal



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Re: [vdr] Minimum CPU requirement for xineliboutput + vdr-sxfe for HDTV

2014-02-27 Thread Peter Münster
On Thu, Feb 27 2014, Stephan Loescher wrote:

> I am interested in your experiences with xineliboutput-plugin and vdr-sxfe for
> HDTV and not using VDPAU but using the plain CPU-power.

Hi,

I use vdr + xineliboutput-plugin (no vdr-sxfe). Here some information
for you:

1.) top:
top - 22:36:09 up 11:20,  2 users,  load average: 1.69, 1.60, 1.37
Tasks: 131 total,   2 running, 129 sleeping,   0 stopped,   0 zombie
%Cpu(s):  8.0 us,  3.3 sy, 74.8 ni, 14.0 id,  0.0 wa,  0.0 hi,  0.0 si,  0.0 st
KiB Mem:   2054468 total,  1980536 used,73932 free,   127328 buffers
KiB Swap:  5243900 total, 1692 used,  5242208 free,  1019884 cached

  PID USER  PR  NIVIRTRESSHR S  %CPU  %MEM TIME+ COMMAND
 1736 vdr   20   0 1613484 319576 156872 S 76.05 15.56  68:17.94 vdr
32228 root  20   0  370964 155840 148756 S 7.971 7.585  27:30.76 Xorg

2.) lspci:
01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] RV710 
[Radeon HD 4350/4550]

3.) /proc/cpuinfo:
processor   : 0
vendor_id   : AuthenticAMD
cpu family  : 15
model   : 47
model name  : AMD Athlon(tm) 64 Processor 3500+
stepping: 2
cpu MHz : 2205.056
cache size  : 512 KB
bogomips: 4410.11
TLB size: 1024 4K pages
clflush size: 64
cache_alignment : 64
address sizes   : 40 bits physical, 48 bits virtual


HTH,
-- 
   Peter


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Re: [vdr] Minimum CPU requirement for xineliboutput + vdr-sxfe for HDTV

2014-02-27 Thread Harald Milz
It might be even cheaper to get a cheap Nvidia card along with s power saving 
CPU. My player is an ION board with an Atom 230... 

On 27. Februar 2014 21:29:20 MEZ, Stephan Loescher  wrote:
>Hi!
>
>I am interested in your experiences with xineliboutput-plugin and 
>vdr-sxfe for HDTV and not using VDPAU but using the plain CPU-power.
>
>The plan would be to build a simple system without any special 
>graphics-card and no special X11-configuration or driver, perhaps some 
>cheap system like the one descibed in http://ct.de/-1375124 (German).
>(Celeron G1820, small case, low power consumption, about 180 EUR
>without 
>disks.)
>
>I know from my own VDR-systems, that a Intel Core2 Duo @ 1.86GHz or a 
>Core i3 540 @ 3.07GHz has far enough power to run VDR and vdr-sxfe for 
>displaying HDTV.
>
>But I think even slower and thus cheaper CPUs could do the 
>HDTV-decoding, too.
>
>What is you experience?
>Would it be possible to use these new Haswell-Celerons?
>
>TIA and best regards,
>Stephan.
>
>-- 
>loesc...@gmx.de
>http://www.loescher-online.de/
>
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[vdr] Minimum CPU requirement for xineliboutput + vdr-sxfe for HDTV

2014-02-27 Thread Stephan Loescher

Hi!

I am interested in your experiences with xineliboutput-plugin and 
vdr-sxfe for HDTV and not using VDPAU but using the plain CPU-power.


The plan would be to build a simple system without any special 
graphics-card and no special X11-configuration or driver, perhaps some 
cheap system like the one descibed in http://ct.de/-1375124 (German).
(Celeron G1820, small case, low power consumption, about 180 EUR without 
disks.)


I know from my own VDR-systems, that a Intel Core2 Duo @ 1.86GHz or a 
Core i3 540 @ 3.07GHz has far enough power to run VDR and vdr-sxfe for 
displaying HDTV.


But I think even slower and thus cheaper CPUs could do the 
HDTV-decoding, too.


What is you experience?
Would it be possible to use these new Haswell-Celerons?

TIA and best regards,
Stephan.

--
loesc...@gmx.de
http://www.loescher-online.de/

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