[Veritas-bu] Réf. : RE: [Veritas-bu] Files backuped twice

2006-05-10 Thread julien . dardaine




 I would avoid  this solution because for others filesystems include in
this policy, using the  cross mountpoint could cause the backup to be
grow too much...
Regards,

Julien



   
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Why not just backup /users  select cross mountpoints.  It'll handle
both conditions.

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Hi all,

I use Netbackup V5,0 for a not a long time, and I have a very basic
question :

In an include list for Unix clients on the master server , I would like
to have, for example :
/users
/users/login

For some clients, /users/login is on the same filesystem than /users. So
all the files under /users/login are backuped twice. Do you think it is
possible to backup these files only once ( keyword, .. ) ?  I tried
using exclude/include list on the client, but no way...

Thanks in advance

Regards,

Julien

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RE: [Veritas-bu] NBU 5.1 MP5

2006-05-10 Thread WEAVER, Simon

I second that :-)

Regards

Simon Weaver
3rd Line Technical Support
Windows Domain Administrator 

EADS Astrium Limited, B32AA IM (DCS)
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Sent: 09 May 2006 16:48
To: Conner, Mike; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] NBU 5.1 MP5


It should be installed everywhere. However, if you can only install it on
the master, your environment will still function.



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Subject: [Veritas-bu] NBU 5.1 MP5


I used NBU 5.1 and am currently at MP5.  We have 1 master, 1 media and are a
windows shop.  I was looking at the read me and it seems the MP needs to
only be installed on the master...is that correct?  Just wanted to get a
second opinion. Thanks Mike

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RE: [Veritas-bu] NBU 5.1 MP5

2006-05-10 Thread WEAVER, Simon

Mike
For consistency, I would recommend applying to all Master and Media Servers
and clients where possible.

It may be that MP5 adds some functionaility that a client or Media Server
may lose out on.

Don't believe it will NOT stop working as a result :-) for example, I use
some old NBU 3.4 clients MP1 that get backed up to a 5.1 MP2 Master!

Just means the client doesn't get any fancy features.

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Subject: [Veritas-bu] NBU 5.1 MP5


I used NBU 5.1 and am currently at MP5.  We have 1 master, 1 media and are a
windows shop.  I was looking at the read me and it seems the MP needs to
only be installed on the master...is that correct?  Just wanted to get a
second opinion. Thanks Mike

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[Veritas-bu] High throughput Redhat Media Server - real world experiences?

2006-05-10 Thread Dean
Hi there.

Does anyone have any real worldexperience with using Redhat as a Media Server, with a quad port Gigabit NIC, using some kind of trunking on the NIC? I'm trying to design a Media Server that will be able to receive data quickly enough over IP to push a couple of fast tape drives, like LTO3. I'd like to be able to reliably get 200 MB/s or more from the network.


I guess my questions are, isthis realistic? And, how is the trunking done? In the switch, or is Linux able to do it, like Solaris?

Thanks in advance for any insight.



Re: [Veritas-bu] Solaris 10 client install

2006-05-10 Thread william . d . brown
I've been looking at this and you have rather limited choices:

1.  Install NBU while the server is still on Solaris 9; you can then 
upgrade to Solaris 10 and push updates in the normal way.

2.  Push the install from the Master Server using either the 'trusted 
hosts' (r commands allowed) or FTP.

If you are lucky enough to have a secured environment where neither FTP 
(due to clear text passwords) nor r commands are allowed, you have a 
problem.

What I am having to do in this latter case is modify one of the Symantec 
supplied scripts to support SFTP.

You cannot run the CD install script, it exits without doing anything. 
There are lots of caveats about what is supported on Solaris 10 about 
Zones, but I've not really fathomed out what it means, and we don't seem 
to be using zones yet.  As you are running Windows I'm not sure if even 
the FTP option is open to you.

Last option would be to install the client on a Solaris 9 server, make a 
tarball, copy it to your Solaris 10 system and unpack it.  You will 
however have to make the changes to the inet configuration by hand.   I 
checked with Symantec and unlike 4.5, where FP6 was a full install, there 
is no plan to do anything similar with 5.1.  Rather unsatisfactory!

William D L Brown




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Can anyone point me to docs detailing how to install a Netbackup 5.1 
solaris 10 client?

I'm running Netbackup 5.1 mp3 under Windows. I've got the original 
install media for 5.1

Do I just install from the media then patch?

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RE: [Veritas-bu] Export and Import NetBackup configuration

2006-05-10 Thread WEAVER, Simon

Dave
What do you do?? Recover to an alternative Server or recover to a different
name?
Is there a documented process?

Regards

Simon Weaver
3rd Line Technical Support
Windows Domain Administrator 

EADS Astrium Limited, B32AA IM (DCS)
Anchorage Road, Portsmouth, PO3 5PU

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From: Dave Markham [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 09 May 2006 11:00
To: WEAVER, Simon
Cc: 'Kathy Falakfarsa'; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Export and Import NetBackup configuration


It is exactly what i do for a DR process. Only caveat is need to have the
hostname of the backup server to be the same as its embedded into the
catalogue and with different host names i couldnt get the robot and certain
things to work correctly.

Cheers

WEAVER, Simon wrote:
 */Hi/*
 */what I understand is, if you use have a Catalog Backup Tape, you can 
 use BPRECOVER onto the new Server, providing the Server name is 
 correct./*
 *//* 
 */There is an unofficial method to recovering the data to a different
 server, but not sure if you want to go down this route, and I do not
 know if Symantec would like it!/*
 *//* 
 */but I hear it is possible from their consultants/*
  
  

 /Regards/

 /Simon Weaver
 *3rd Line Technical Support
 Windows Domain Administrator*/

 /EADS Astrium Limited, B32AA IM (DCS)/
 /Anchorage Road, Portsmouth, PO3 5PU/

 /Email: //[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ 
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 *From:* Kathy Falakfarsa [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 *Sent:* 05 May 2006 19:49
 *To:* veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
 *Subject:* [Veritas-bu] Export and Import NetBackup configuration

 Hello,

  

 Does anyone know, if I can Export the NetBackup configuration from
 an existing NetBackup server and Import it to a new server on
 another site?

  

  

 NetBackup: 5.0 with MP2

 OS: Windows 2003 Ent. SP1

  

 Thanks

  

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RE: [Veritas-bu] NB 6 and VSP on Windows

2006-05-10 Thread WEAVER, Simon
Title: Message



Well that wont help young Tim 
:-(
And a bit bad that NBU wont do it even with open transaction 
agent enabled!


Regards
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Domain Administrator 
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Limited, B32AA IM (DCS)Anchorage Road, Portsmouth, PO3 
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  -Original Message-From: Steve Cashman 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 09 May 2006 21:14To: 
  DeanCc: WEAVER, Simon; Wilkinson, Tim; 
  veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.eduSubject: Re: [Veritas-bu] NB 6 and 
  VSP on Windows
  
  In my exp neither VSP or VSS will allow you to backup open .pst 
  files
  
  
  Steve
  On 5/9/06, Dean 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  wrote: 
  
VSS is using the Windows VSS service, which in 
turn can access other technology such as Veritas Volume Manager, or 
snapshot/mirror capabilities of your disk hardware, which would be the way 
to go if you're licensed for those goodies. I am about to implement 
FlashBackup to backup some huge Windows file servers using the NBU 6 
advanced client. Currently the backups of those file servers are very slow 
(the old traversing the filesystem issue). We will use Flashbackup to do 
block level backups. Flashbackup uses Windows VSS to ensure a consistent 
disk image during the backup, which in turn will utilise either VxVM or 
storage array snapshot capabilities to achieve this. VSP is, by 
comparison, fairly dumb :PAlthough I'm talking purely from theory - 
haven't tested it yet.I can't talk about .pst files. You should 
probably investigate using the NBU agent for Exchange. 



  
  

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[Veritas-bu] Slightly off subject

2006-05-10 Thread mark . a . goodchild

All

Slightly off subject

Generallywe are looking for a vendor
toolkit that can.

a) monitor a given server task I/O workload
on a given 'real' storage subsystem environment/configuration.
b) allow logical modelling changes within
the tool to create an alternative (theoretical) storage subsystem environment.
c) accurately predict/model the effect
to the monitored task of a variety of assumed changes to the physical/logical
storage subsystem environment.
d) this 'effect' will ideally demonstrate
any changes to individual Write-I/O's (in milliseconds) and any changes
to the tasks overall elapsed time. 

Specifically... 


Tool must provide for monitoring/calibration
of tasks on Solaris and Windows servers.
Tool will understand (and be able to
model) the runtime environments for all major storage subsystem suppliers
(minimally EMC and HDS).
Tool will understand (and be able to
model) the runtime environments for all major SAN switch suppliers (minimally
Cisco and Mcdata).
Tool must be able to model the effect
of..
-
changing the tasks logical I/O blksize
-
activating EMC or HDS synchronous replication over any required distance
up to 200 km (based upon DWDM fibre connectivity)
-
different simulated loads (simulated I/O path loading, simulated storage
cache loading, etc) laid over the monitored workload.
-
all the major switch/storage configuration settings (logical and physical).
-
combinations of all the above.

Any help would be appreciated

Regards
Mark Goodchild
Branches Remediation J.P.Morgan Chase
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Re: [Veritas-bu] High throughput Redhat Media Server - real world experiences?

2006-05-10 Thread Justin Piszcz

Trunking as you refer to it is bonding and typical network speed is
increased not 2x but 1.5x real world performance.  Also, an LTO3 drive
supposedly can do around 80MB/s, so unless you get one of the fastest
PCI-X cards or PCI-E 8X/16X then you may max out the I/O of the
board's interface.

A better idea is more media servers with one or two drives on each one.


On 5/10/06, Dean [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Hi there.

Does anyone have any real world experience with using Redhat as a Media
Server, with a quad port Gigabit NIC, using some kind of trunking on the
NIC? I'm trying to design a Media Server that will be able to receive data
quickly enough over IP to push a couple of fast tape drives, like LTO3. I'd
like to be able to reliably get 200 MB/s or more from the network.

I guess my questions are, is this realistic? And, how is the trunking done?
In the switch, or is Linux able to do it, like Solaris?

Thanks in advance for any insight.



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Re: [Veritas-bu] NetBackup Server

2006-05-10 Thread Justin Piszcz
As long as you have the same hostname at the DR site and same equipment setup, you should just be able to do a bprecover and be on your way.On 5/9/06, 
Kathy Falakfarsa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:






















I am trying to setup a NetBackup server in a new site, I was planning to
create a standby server with a same name so I can use BPRecover to get the
database in to this new server, but my manager doesn't like the idea of
not using all the hardware on new site and leave it only for disaster recovery.
His idea is to use that server as a second master server (on production) and if
something goes wrong with one of the sites, use the other one as a disaster
recovery server (i.e. restore tapes from one site to other). I don't
know if this is possible or how complicated it is.



I am looking for best practices for this situation. 



P.S. we will be using Mirror View to replicate the information to the
new site.



Thanks











From: WEAVER, Simon
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Sent: May 8, 2006 1:54 AM
To: Kathy Falakfarsa;
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Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu]
NetBackup Server







Kathy

Is this standby Server
going to be implemented if your current one goes down or dies?





Will you
be using BPRecover to get the Database onto this server?















Regards

Simon Weaver

3rd Line Technical Support

Windows Domain
Administrator 

EADS Astrium Limited,
B32AA IM (DCS)
Anchorage Road
, Portsmouth, PO3 5PU

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To:
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Server



I am trying to install a standby NetBackup
server on a different site but on a same domain. I am looking for any
documentation that suggests how to set this server up? Do I create a second
master server?



Your help is appreciated.
















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Re: [Veritas-bu] Export and Import NetBackup configuration

2006-05-10 Thread Justin Piszcz

Use same name, install SW on secondary box with same setup, run
bprecover, be on your way.

On 5/10/06, WEAVER, Simon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Dave
What do you do?? Recover to an alternative Server or recover to a different
name?
Is there a documented process?

Regards

Simon Weaver
3rd Line Technical Support
Windows Domain Administrator

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Anchorage Road, Portsmouth, PO3 5PU

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From: Dave Markham [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 09 May 2006 11:00
To: WEAVER, Simon
Cc: 'Kathy Falakfarsa'; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Export and Import NetBackup configuration


It is exactly what i do for a DR process. Only caveat is need to have the
hostname of the backup server to be the same as its embedded into the
catalogue and with different host names i couldnt get the robot and certain
things to work correctly.

Cheers

WEAVER, Simon wrote:
 */Hi/*
 */what I understand is, if you use have a Catalog Backup Tape, you can
 use BPRECOVER onto the new Server, providing the Server name is
 correct./*
 *//*
 */There is an unofficial method to recovering the data to a different
 server, but not sure if you want to go down this route, and I do not
 know if Symantec would like it!/*
 *//*
 */but I hear it is possible from their consultants/*



 /Regards/

 /Simon Weaver
 *3rd Line Technical Support
 Windows Domain Administrator*/

 /EADS Astrium Limited, B32AA IM (DCS)/
 /Anchorage Road, Portsmouth, PO3 5PU/

 /Email: //[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

 -Original Message-
 *From:* Kathy Falakfarsa [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 *Sent:* 05 May 2006 19:49
 *To:* veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
 *Subject:* [Veritas-bu] Export and Import NetBackup configuration

 Hello,



 Does anyone know, if I can Export the NetBackup configuration from
 an existing NetBackup server and Import it to a new server on
 another site?





 NetBackup: 5.0 with MP2

 OS: Windows 2003 Ent. SP1



 Thanks



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Re: [Veritas-bu] Solaris 10 client install

2006-05-10 Thread Justin Piszcz

I did not have any issues installing the client from the CD and then
patching to MP3 under Solaris 10, although it has been a while since I
did that.

On 5/10/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I've been looking at this and you have rather limited choices:

1.  Install NBU while the server is still on Solaris 9; you can then
upgrade to Solaris 10 and push updates in the normal way.

2.  Push the install from the Master Server using either the 'trusted
hosts' (r commands allowed) or FTP.

If you are lucky enough to have a secured environment where neither FTP
(due to clear text passwords) nor r commands are allowed, you have a
problem.

What I am having to do in this latter case is modify one of the Symantec
supplied scripts to support SFTP.

You cannot run the CD install script, it exits without doing anything.
There are lots of caveats about what is supported on Solaris 10 about
Zones, but I've not really fathomed out what it means, and we don't seem
to be using zones yet.  As you are running Windows I'm not sure if even
the FTP option is open to you.

Last option would be to install the client on a Solaris 9 server, make a
tarball, copy it to your Solaris 10 system and unpack it.  You will
however have to make the changes to the inet configuration by hand.   I
checked with Symantec and unlike 4.5, where FP6 was a full install, there
is no plan to do anything similar with 5.1.  Rather unsatisfactory!

William D L Brown




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Can anyone point me to docs detailing how to install a Netbackup 5.1
solaris 10 client?

I'm running Netbackup 5.1 mp3 under Windows. I've got the original
install media for 5.1

Do I just install from the media then patch?

thanks in advance
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Re: [Veritas-bu] Renaming NB 6.0MP2 servers

2006-05-10 Thread Justin Piszcz
Not supported under 5.1x and when I opened a ticket concerning this they said there is no supported method, only if it is REALLY necessary you can call Veritas' consulting services and have them fix it.
On 5/9/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I'd like to rename a NB 6.0MP2 master
server. In fact, i want to clone my master production server and
rename it at our DR site.

As far as i know this isn't really supported
yet.











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[Veritas-bu] bpstart_notify

2006-05-10 Thread mark . a . goodchild

All

I have inherited a windows 2003 netbackup
5.1 mp4 master server.
I want to automate the robot inventory.
I have a bpstart_notify.Windows2003_Backup.bat
file in the netbackup bin folder.
It runs quite happily, unfortunately
it does not wait for the inventory to finish.
Therefore all my backups fail error
96, but rerun quite happily.

How do I make the .bat file wait for
the inventory to complete.
I have tried sleep n and start
/wait but they both do nothing.

Regards
Mark Goodchild
Branches Remediation J.P.Morgan Chase
Phone: 01202347149
Mail: Mark A Goodchild/[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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RE: [Veritas-bu] bpstart_notify

2006-05-10 Thread Whelan, Patrick








I think you need to put it in
session_start_notify.bat instead.





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All 

I
have inherited a windows 2003 netbackup 5.1 mp4 master server. 
I
want to automate the robot inventory. 
I
have a bpstart_notify.Windows2003_Backup.bat file in the netbackup bin folder.

It
runs quite happily, unfortunately it does not wait for the inventory to finish.

Therefore
all my backups fail error 96, but rerun quite happily. 

How
do I make the .bat file wait for the inventory to complete. 
I
have tried sleep n and start /wait but they both do nothing.


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RE: [Veritas-bu] Renaming NB 6.0MP2 servers

2006-05-10 Thread WEAVER, Simon
Title: Message



It can be done - I just spoke to someone but told me
its a drawn out process (not supported by Symantec) but it could
work.

Not too sure how much of a risk it
is


Regards
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Domain Administrator 
EADS Astrium
Limited, B32AA IM (DCS)Anchorage Road, Portsmouth, PO3
5PU
Email:
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  -Original Message-From: Justin Piszcz
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 10 May 2006
  11:49To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Cc:
  veritas-buSubject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Renaming NB 6.0MP2
  serversNot supported under 5.1x and when I opened a
  ticket concerning this they said there is no supported method, only if it is
  REALLY necessary you can call Veritas' consulting services and have them fix
  it.
  On 5/9/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  wrote:
  
I'd like to
rename a NB 6.0MP2 master server. In fact, i want to clone my master
production server and rename it at our DR site. As far as i know this isn't really supported
yet. 

  
  
 


  

  
 
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[Veritas-bu] NOM on Windows 2003 SP1

2006-05-10 Thread Fiona Greenhough
Title: NOM on Windows 2003 SP1






Hi All


I am attempting to install NOM into a Windows environment with no success, I have managed to get it working on Solaris.


Master Server = Windows 2003 SP1, NBU 6.0GA

NOM Server = Windows 2003 SP1, NBU Client 6.0GA


On the NOM server we installed Java 1.5.x that we downloaded from the internet, PBX and VxSS as per the installation guide. We then installed NOM, checked that all services are started, including the Veritas Web service.

We start NOM and obtained a login screen choose English (or Default) for the Language, admin for the user, Vxadmin for the password and the Domain we left as the default which was [EMAIL PROTECTED]

This is the error message:


User authenticationfailed. The user name/password are invalid for the selected domain


If we keep trying we eventually get a java dump:


Exception Report

The server excountered an internal error () that prevented it from fulfilling this request


Further down:


Root cause

Failed to get credentials. hostname.domain. [vx. NOM_TRUSTED_CLIENTS hostname.domain]


Any help or direction would be much appreciated.


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RE: [Veritas-bu] NetBackup Server

2006-05-10 Thread WEAVER, Simon
Title: Message



Kathy
I
dont mind answering this.

If the other server is the same name as your CURRENT MASTER
Server, and you can configure a tape robotic library and use BPRECOVER then it
will work.

BPRecover does not rely on any hardware. from a DR point, I would
say have a box on standby ready to talk to the Robot and use
bprecover!


Regards
Simon Weaver3rd Line Technical SupportWindows
Domain Administrator 
EADS Astrium
Limited, B32AA IM (DCS)Anchorage Road, Portsmouth, PO3
5PU
Email:
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  -Original Message-From: Kathy Falakfarsa
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 09 May 2006
  23:07To: WEAVER, Simon;
  veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.eduSubject: RE: [Veritas-bu]
  NetBackup Server
  
  
  I am trying to setup a NetBackup server in a new site,
  I was planning to create a standby server with a same name so I can use
  BPRecover to get the database in to this new server, but my manager doesn't
  like the idea of not using all the hardware on new site and leave it only for
  disaster recovery. His idea is to use that server as a second master
  server (on production) and if something goes wrong with one of the sites, use
  the other one as a disaster recovery server (i.e. restore tapes from one site
  to other). I don't know if this is possible or how complicated it
  is.
  
  I am looking for best practices for this
  situation. 
  
  P.S. we will be using Mirror View to replicate the
  information to the new site.
  
  Thanks
  
  
  
  
  
  From: WEAVER,
  Simon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: May 8, 2006 1:54 AMTo: Kathy Falakfarsa;
  veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.eduSubject: RE: [Veritas-bu] NetBackup
  Server
  
  
  KathyIs this standby Server going to be
  implemented if your current one goes down or
  dies?
  
  Will
  you be using BPRecover to get the Database onto this
  server?
  
  
  
  
  Regards
  Simon
  Weaver3rd
  Line Technical SupportWindows Domain
  Administrator
  
  EADS
  Astrium Limited, B32AA IM (DCS)Anchorage
  Road, Portsmouth, PO3
  5PU
  Email:
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  
-Original
Message-From: Kathy
Falakfarsa [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 06 May 2006 00:06To:
veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.eduSubject: [Veritas-bu] NetBackup
Server

I am trying to
install a standby NetBackup server on a different site but on a same
domain. I am looking for any documentation that suggests how to set
this server up? Do I create a second master
server?

Your help is
appreciated.




  


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RE: [Veritas-bu] Export and Import NetBackup configuration

2006-05-10 Thread WEAVER, Simon

I know that!! But in response to another thread, is there a document that
allows you to recover to an alternative name!

I know its an unsupported method, but I belive there is a way around it
But im not paying a consultant to do it :-)

Regards

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Windows Domain Administrator 

EADS Astrium Limited, B32AA IM (DCS)
Anchorage Road, Portsmouth, PO3 5PU

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-Original Message-
From: Justin Piszcz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 10 May 2006 11:56
To: WEAVER, Simon
Cc: veritas-bu
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Export and Import NetBackup configuration


Use same name, install SW on secondary box with same setup, run bprecover,
be on your way.

On 5/10/06, WEAVER, Simon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Dave
 What do you do?? Recover to an alternative Server or recover to a 
 different name? Is there a documented process?

 Regards

 Simon Weaver
 3rd Line Technical Support
 Windows Domain Administrator

 EADS Astrium Limited, B32AA IM (DCS)
 Anchorage Road, Portsmouth, PO3 5PU

 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]



 -Original Message-
 From: Dave Markham [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: 09 May 2006 11:00
 To: WEAVER, Simon
 Cc: 'Kathy Falakfarsa'; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
 Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Export and Import NetBackup configuration


 It is exactly what i do for a DR process. Only caveat is need to have 
 the hostname of the backup server to be the same as its embedded into 
 the catalogue and with different host names i couldnt get the robot 
 and certain things to work correctly.

 Cheers

 WEAVER, Simon wrote:
  */Hi/*
  */what I understand is, if you use have a Catalog Backup Tape, you 
  can use BPRECOVER onto the new Server, providing the Server name is
  correct./*
  *//*
  */There is an unofficial method to recovering the data to a 
  different server, but not sure if you want to go down this route, 
  and I do not know if Symantec would like it!/*
  *//*
  */but I hear it is possible from their consultants/*
 
 
 
  /Regards/
 
  /Simon Weaver
  *3rd Line Technical Support
  Windows Domain Administrator*/
 
  /EADS Astrium Limited, B32AA IM (DCS)/
  /Anchorage Road, Portsmouth, PO3 5PU/
 
  /Email: //[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ 
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  -Original Message-
  *From:* Kathy Falakfarsa [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  *Sent:* 05 May 2006 19:49
  *To:* veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
  *Subject:* [Veritas-bu] Export and Import NetBackup 
  configuration
 
  Hello,
 
 
 
  Does anyone know, if I can Export the NetBackup configuration from
  an existing NetBackup server and Import it to a new server on
  another site?
 
 
 
 
 
  NetBackup: 5.0 with MP2
 
  OS: Windows 2003 Ent. SP1
 
 
 
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RE: [Veritas-bu] Export and Import NetBackup configuration

2006-05-10 Thread WEAVER, Simon

Will do Justin

Regards

Simon Weaver
3rd Line Technical Support
Windows Domain Administrator 

EADS Astrium Limited, B32AA IM (DCS)
Anchorage Road, Portsmouth, PO3 5PU

Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]



-Original Message-
From: Justin Piszcz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 10 May 2006 15:00
To: WEAVER, Simon
Cc: veritas-bu
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Export and Import NetBackup configuration


Good luck, if you find one, let me know.

On 5/10/06, WEAVER, Simon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I know that!! But in response to another thread, is there a document 
 that allows you to recover to an alternative name!

 I know its an unsupported method, but I belive there is a way around 
 it But im not paying a consultant to do it :-)

 Regards

 Simon Weaver
 3rd Line Technical Support
 Windows Domain Administrator

 EADS Astrium Limited, B32AA IM (DCS)
 Anchorage Road, Portsmouth, PO3 5PU

 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]



 -Original Message-
 From: Justin Piszcz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: 10 May 2006 11:56
 To: WEAVER, Simon
 Cc: veritas-bu
 Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Export and Import NetBackup configuration


 Use same name, install SW on secondary box with same setup, run 
 bprecover, be on your way.

 On 5/10/06, WEAVER, Simon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Dave
  What do you do?? Recover to an alternative Server or recover to a 
  different name? Is there a documented process?
 
  Regards
 
  Simon Weaver
  3rd Line Technical Support
  Windows Domain Administrator
 
  EADS Astrium Limited, B32AA IM (DCS)
  Anchorage Road, Portsmouth, PO3 5PU
 
  Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Dave Markham [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: 09 May 2006 11:00
  To: WEAVER, Simon
  Cc: 'Kathy Falakfarsa'; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
  Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Export and Import NetBackup configuration
 
 
  It is exactly what i do for a DR process. Only caveat is need to 
  have the hostname of the backup server to be the same as its 
  embedded into the catalogue and with different host names i couldnt 
  get the robot and certain things to work correctly.
 
  Cheers
 
  WEAVER, Simon wrote:
   */Hi/*
   */what I understand is, if you use have a Catalog Backup Tape, you 
   can use BPRECOVER onto the new Server, providing the Server name 
   is
   correct./*
   *//*
   */There is an unofficial method to recovering the data to a
   different server, but not sure if you want to go down this route,
   and I do not know if Symantec would like it!/*
   *//*
   */but I hear it is possible from their consultants/*
  
  
  
   /Regards/
  
   /Simon Weaver
   *3rd Line Technical Support
   Windows Domain Administrator*/
  
   /EADS Astrium Limited, B32AA IM (DCS)/
   /Anchorage Road, Portsmouth, PO3 5PU/
  
   /Email: //[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ 
   mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  
   -Original Message-
   *From:* Kathy Falakfarsa [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   *Sent:* 05 May 2006 19:49
   *To:* veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
   *Subject:* [Veritas-bu] Export and Import NetBackup 
   configuration
  
   Hello,
  
  
  
   Does anyone know, if I can Export the NetBackup configuration from
   an existing NetBackup server and Import it to a new server on
   another site?
  
  
  
  
  
   NetBackup: 5.0 with MP2
  
   OS: Windows 2003 Ent. SP1
  
  
  
   Thanks
  
  
  
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RE: [Veritas-bu] NOM on Windows 2003 SP1

2006-05-10 Thread Brooks, Jason
I had initial problems installing NOM to my test NBU 6.0GA setup (before
rolling to production).  I had to open a case - best I recall is that
the Windows installer didn't actually install all it was supposed to.  I
found my error the same way - couldn't authenticate.  How many domains
do you have listed when you look at Veritas Security Services?  There
should be 5, IIRC.  Mine had 2 or 3 from the initial install.  I had to
talk with the Veritas Rep to manually create the remainder.

Jason 

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
 Fiona Greenhough
 Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2006 9:49 AM
 To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
 Subject: [Veritas-bu] NOM on Windows 2003 SP1
 
 Hi All 
 
 I am attempting to install NOM into a Windows environment 
 with no success, I have managed to get it working on Solaris. 
 
 Master Server = Windows 2003 SP1, NBU 6.0GA NOM Server = 
 Windows 2003 SP1, NBU Client 6.0GA 
 
 On the NOM server we installed Java 1.5.x that we downloaded 
 from the internet, PBX and VxSS as per the installation 
 guide.  We then installed NOM, checked that all services are 
 started, including the Veritas Web service.
 
 We start NOM and obtained a login screen choose English (or 
 Default) for the Language, admin for the user, Vxadmin for 
 the password and the Domain we left as the default which was 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 This is the error message: 
 
 User authenticationfailed.  The user name/password are 
 invalid for the selected domain 
 
 If we keep trying we eventually get a java dump: 
 
 Exception Report
 The server excountered an internal error () that prevented it 
 from fulfilling this request 
 
 Further down: 
 
 Root cause
 Failed to get credentials. hostname.domain. [vx. 
 NOM_TRUSTED_CLIENTS hostname.domain] 
 
 Any help or direction would be much appreciated. 
 
 Regards
 Fiona Greenhough
 LECHABILE Storage Solutions (PTY) Ltd
 
 Unit 1, Cambridge Commercial Park
 Regent Street, Paulshof
 P O Box 784013, Sandton, 2146
 
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RE: [Veritas-bu] Export and Import NetBackup configuration

2006-05-10 Thread Whelan, Patrick
Am I misinterpreting the original post?

According to the manual, using bprecover with the -dhost option is
supposed to allow recovery of the database to an alternate host. This is
a snippet from the command manual.

bprecover
-dhost destination_host
Specifies the host to which the selected catalog is restored. Normally,
catalogs are restored to the host where the data originated (as
displayed
with the -l option). The -d option makes it possible to restore the
catalog to another host.

Caution Use the dhost option with EXTREME caution, since it can
overwrite existing
catalogs on the destination host. To permit recovery in case you
unintentionally
overwrite the wrong catalogs, you can move existing catalogs to a
temporary
directory on the destination host.
The following NetBackup client software must be installed on the
destination host:
/usr/openv/netbackup/bin/bpcd
and
/usr/openv/netbackup/bin/tar
Note Do not specify -r all (or ALL) with -dhost when using this command.
Either
explicitly specify an image (for example, -r 2) or use the interactive
mode (-r).


Patrick Whelan
NetBackup Specialist
Architect  Engineering
+44 20 7863 5243

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[Veritas-bu] Symantec and Linux support

2006-05-10 Thread Ed Wilts
I regularly see postings from people looking to enhance their use of
Linux as NetBackup servers.  Although I am a *strong* Linux advocate and
a Red Hat Certified Engineer, I would advise that you think long and
hard about this decision.  Symantec  has not yet been able to
demonstrate any willingness to support Red Hat Enterprise Linux as an
enterprise platform.

Fact:  NetBackup 6.5, targeted for release in February, 2007, will drop
support for RHEL 3.  RHEL 3 started shipping in October, 2003 and will
be supported by Red Hat through October, 2010.  Symantec will cut you
off with its current release nearly 4 years before Red Hat stops
supporting the OS.  On the other hand, Windows 2000, which was released
2 1/2 years earlier than RHEL 3, will still be supported by NetBackup 6.5.
Additionally, mainstream support for Win2K server has already ended and
full support will end from Microsoft *before* RHEL 3 support ends.  This
should show you where Symantec's priorities lie.

Fact:  Symantec Brightmail is not available for RHEL 4 so if you're
deploying today, you have to deploy on RHEL 3.  One Symantec enterprise
product will soon be unable to back up another Symantec enterprise
product.  RHEL 4 has been out for over a year and still Symantec hasn't
started supporting it. I just searched the support site for the system
requirements in case my local office was wrong, and RHEL 4 still does
not seem to be supported.
 
Fact:  NOM on Linux.  Nope, it doesn't exist.  Windows or Solaris only.

Symantec doesn't seem to get it.  I'm turning blue in the face trying to
explain this to my local office.  I know that there are Symantec folks
on this list - feel free to pass this on.  Symantec's actions do not go
without notice.

I've been asked by my management why we're not using Linux for NetBackup
and I bluntly told them that Symantec can't be trusted to support the
platform as it should be trusted.  We recently replaced our master and
one of our media servers and stuck with Solaris.  We spent a lot more
money but at least I know it will work.

Enough rambling.  If you have concerns about NetBackup and Linux
support, contact your Symantec reps.

.../Ed

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RE: [Veritas-bu] Export and Import NetBackup configuration

2006-05-10 Thread Kathy Falakfarsa
Thanks for the information.  Could you please let me know what document
you got that information from, so I can downloaded and review it.

Thanks

Kathy


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Patrick
Sent: May 10, 2006 11:48 AM
To: Ed Wilts; WEAVER, Simon
Cc: Justin Piszcz; veritas-bu
Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] Export and Import NetBackup configuration

Am I misinterpreting the original post?

According to the manual, using bprecover with the -dhost option is
supposed to allow recovery of the database to an alternate host. This is
a snippet from the command manual.

bprecover
-dhost destination_host
Specifies the host to which the selected catalog is restored. Normally,
catalogs are restored to the host where the data originated (as
displayed
with the -l option). The -d option makes it possible to restore the
catalog to another host.

Caution Use the dhost option with EXTREME caution, since it can
overwrite existing
catalogs on the destination host. To permit recovery in case you
unintentionally
overwrite the wrong catalogs, you can move existing catalogs to a
temporary
directory on the destination host.
The following NetBackup client software must be installed on the
destination host:
/usr/openv/netbackup/bin/bpcd
and
/usr/openv/netbackup/bin/tar
Note Do not specify -r all (or ALL) with -dhost when using this command.
Either
explicitly specify an image (for example, -r 2) or use the interactive
mode (-r).


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RE: [Veritas-bu] hanging bpbkar process

2006-05-10 Thread Steven Cashman



Just because they are the same box does not exclude the 
Network issues, if you are using an NFS mount it is probably over the network. 
It could be a problem with the NFS mount / share going away momentarily but its 
hard to tell from this. Can you post more of the Bpbrm log?

o Does this only happen on the NFS 
backup?

o Is this client able to perform other types of backups 
(Local drives, System_state)?

o Is it possible to backup the slice on the local computer 
vs NFS mounting it to the NBU server?

Steve



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MillsSent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 4:59 PMTo: Steve Cashman; 
Justin PiszczCc: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.eduSubject: 
RE: [Veritas-bu] hanging bpbkar process

Well the server/client are the same box so network issues 
are out. I'm NFS mounting a slice to the NBU server and then backing up it up. 
After about 3 hours, the client process just stops logging. I've checked bpbrm, 
bptm, and bpbkar logs to no avail.

Could an NFS hicup cause this to 
happen?

bpbrm.log shows:

06:57:36.696 [13465] 2 bpbrm sighandler: signal 14 
caught by bpbrm06:57:36.696 [13465] 2 bpbrm sighandler: bpbrm 
timeout after 10800 seconds06:57:36.696 [13465] 2 
clear_held_signals: clearing signal mask stack, mask_stack_depth = 
006:57:36.696 [13465] 2 bpbrm kill_child_process: 
start06:57:36.697 [13465] 2 bpbrm wait_for_child: 
start06:59:10.955 [13465] 2 bpbrm wait_for_child: child exit_status 
= 82 signal_status = 006:59:10.955 [13465] 2 
inform_client_of_status: INF - Server status = 41

some three hours earlier, the last log from bpbkar looks 
like:

...snip...
03:58:24.319 [13472] 2 bpbkar process_file: INF - 
/path/to/some/file is sparse: stat.st_size = 12, stat.st_blocks * 512 = 
003:58:24.320 [13472] 2 bpbkar process_file: INF - 
/path/to/some/file is now size 1203:58:24.320 [13472] 4 bpbkar 
PrintFile: /path/to/some/file
03:58:24.320 [13472] 2 bpbkar process_file: INF - 
/path/to/some/file is sparse: stat.st_size = 12, stat.st_blocks * 512 = 
003:58:24.321 [13472] 2 bpbkar process_file: INF - 
/path/to/some/file is now size 1203:58:24.322 [13472] 4 bpbkar 
PrintFile: /path/to/some/file03:58:24.322 [13472] 2 bpbkar 
process_file: INF - /path/to/some/file is sparse: stat.st_size = 12, 
stat.st_blocks * 512 = 003:58:24.323 [13472] 2 bpbkar process_file: 
INF - /path/to/some/file is now size 12

(Is this "is sparse" message what I should be worried 
about?)

then nothing 'till I killed the process some 27 hours 
later:

11:33:35.407 [13472] 16 bpbkar sighandler: ERR - 
bpbkar killed by signal 15





From: Steve Cashman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 2:11 PMTo: Justin 
PiszczCc: Aaron Mills; 
veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.eduSubject: Re: [Veritas-bu] hanging 
bpbkar process


Often times the Media / Master server encounters and error and exits but cant 
notify the Client (they don't even attempt to) It sounds like you have at least 
some logs enabled on the Media server since you mention that you reviewed the 
Bpbrm log. So review the Media Server logs to see if you can get more 
information. What I often have seen is a network disconnect between the Client 
and the Media Server. This stops the backup as far as Bpbrm is concerned but 
Bpbkar does not know about it, he just keeps churning through data until he is 
done. 
If this only happens on single client then it maybe something like a bad 
port, Nic, Driver ect. If it only happens on one Policy but other policies for 
that same client fail then you have a mystery on your hands. If you can post the 
relevant logs so we can browse them a bit (Bpbrm, Bpbkar, Bptm to start I would 
think) 
Steve
Hope that helps
On 5/9/06, Justin 
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wrote: 
mkdir 
  /usr/openv/netbackup/logs/bpbkar on the client, add VERBOSE = 5to the 
  bp.conf and watch the logs, also you can make a lot of logging directories 
  on the server as well and tail them when the problematicclient is backing 
  up/etc.On 5/9/06, Aaron Mills [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  wrote:  I had a backup timeout yesterday. bpbrm timed 
  out after the configured interval (3 hours), but when I check to see 
  what happened to the client process, bpbkar is still running 
  (client/server on the same box) - it just  hasn't done anything since 
  three hours before the job timed out. The bpbkar log doesn't show 
  anything useful. The process hums along and then just stops logging 
  all of the sudden. This always seems to happen on the same job,  
  though - never any others. Any ideas on where else I should 
  look here? 
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Re: [Veritas-bu] Symantec and Linux support

2006-05-10 Thread Scott Jacobson
Ed,
 
What about the other white meat.  We have SLES 8 and 9 Linux boxes
running as both Master and Media Servers.
 
;-)
 
-sj

 Ed Wilts [EMAIL PROTECTED] 5/10/2006 10:17 AM 
I regularly see postings from people looking to enhance their use of
Linux as NetBackup servers.  Although I am a *strong* Linux advocate
and
a Red Hat Certified Engineer, I would advise that you think long and
hard about this decision.  Symantec  has not yet been able to
demonstrate any willingness to support Red Hat Enterprise Linux as an
enterprise platform.

Fact:  NetBackup 6.5, targeted for release in February, 2007, will
drop
support for RHEL 3.  RHEL 3 started shipping in October, 2003 and will
be supported by Red Hat through October, 2010.  Symantec will cut you
off with its current release nearly 4 years before Red Hat stops
supporting the OS.  On the other hand, Windows 2000, which was
released
2 1/2 years earlier than RHEL 3, will still be supported by NetBackup
6.5.
Additionally, mainstream support for Win2K server has already ended
and
full support will end from Microsoft *before* RHEL 3 support ends. 
This
should show you where Symantec's priorities lie.

Fact:  Symantec Brightmail is not available for RHEL 4 so if you're
deploying today, you have to deploy on RHEL 3.  One Symantec
enterprise
product will soon be unable to back up another Symantec enterprise
product.  RHEL 4 has been out for over a year and still Symantec
hasn't
started supporting it. I just searched the support site for the system
requirements in case my local office was wrong, and RHEL 4 still does
not seem to be supported.

Fact:  NOM on Linux.  Nope, it doesn't exist.  Windows or Solaris
only.

Symantec doesn't seem to get it.  I'm turning blue in the face trying
to
explain this to my local office.  I know that there are Symantec folks
on this list - feel free to pass this on.  Symantec's actions do not
go
without notice.

I've been asked by my management why we're not using Linux for
NetBackup
and I bluntly told them that Symantec can't be trusted to support the
platform as it should be trusted.  We recently replaced our master and
one of our media servers and stuck with Solaris.  We spent a lot more
money but at least I know it will work.

Enough rambling.  If you have concerns about NetBackup and Linux
support, contact your Symantec reps.

.../Ed

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RE: [Veritas-bu] Symantec and Linux support

2006-05-10 Thread Greenberg, Katherine A
Oh wait, Scott? Who do you work for? :-P

We are also going to be deploying NetBackup w/ SLES. Had a hiccup with
the NBU 5 release we were running and wanting to use 64-bit
architecture. Working back towards this as an option.

RedHat got greedy and has a crappy licensing model and I think a lot of
people are moving away from them as *the choice* for Enterprise Linux
deployment (just what I've heard in mumbles and gripes).  And if you
look at the fact that SLES is supported on everything from 32-bit to
64-bit to Z-series mainframes (as a client, at least), I think they're
being smart and spotting the direction of the industry away from RedHat.

My gripe with Symantec as a WHOLE is a complete lack of
interest/support/caring/notice for the fact that there are freaks out
here deploying SLES on IBM Power platform. Symantec won't even consider
this a *direction* of the industry, however, aside from Microsoft
(**chuckle**) they are the ONLY Tier 1/Top 10 software manufacturer who
isn't at least looking at this as viable... let alone that IBM and
Oracle have most of their product stack ported to this platform...


:-D

Enjoy your day!
Kate


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Jacobson
Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2006 12:44 PM
To: Ed Wilts; List Veritas List
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Symantec and Linux support


Ed,
 
What about the other white meat.  We have SLES 8 and 9 Linux boxes
running as both Master and Media Servers.
 
;-)
 
-sj

 Ed Wilts [EMAIL PROTECTED] 5/10/2006 10:17 AM 
I regularly see postings from people looking to enhance their use of
Linux as NetBackup servers.  Although I am a *strong* Linux advocate and
a Red Hat Certified Engineer, I would advise that you think long and
hard about this decision.  Symantec  has not yet been able to
demonstrate any willingness to support Red Hat Enterprise Linux as an
enterprise platform.

Fact:  NetBackup 6.5, targeted for release in February, 2007, will drop
support for RHEL 3.  RHEL 3 started shipping in October, 2003 and will
be supported by Red Hat through October, 2010.  Symantec will cut you
off with its current release nearly 4 years before Red Hat stops
supporting the OS.  On the other hand, Windows 2000, which was released
2 1/2 years earlier than RHEL 3, will still be supported by NetBackup
6.5. Additionally, mainstream support for Win2K server has already ended
and full support will end from Microsoft *before* RHEL 3 support ends. 
This
should show you where Symantec's priorities lie.

Fact:  Symantec Brightmail is not available for RHEL 4 so if you're
deploying today, you have to deploy on RHEL 3.  One Symantec enterprise
product will soon be unable to back up another Symantec enterprise
product.  RHEL 4 has been out for over a year and still Symantec hasn't
started supporting it. I just searched the support site for the system
requirements in case my local office was wrong, and RHEL 4 still does
not seem to be supported.

Fact:  NOM on Linux.  Nope, it doesn't exist.  Windows or Solaris only.

Symantec doesn't seem to get it.  I'm turning blue in the face trying to
explain this to my local office.  I know that there are Symantec folks
on this list - feel free to pass this on.  Symantec's actions do not go
without notice.

I've been asked by my management why we're not using Linux for NetBackup
and I bluntly told them that Symantec can't be trusted to support the
platform as it should be trusted.  We recently replaced our master and
one of our media servers and stuck with Solaris.  We spent a lot more
money but at least I know it will work.

Enough rambling.  If you have concerns about NetBackup and Linux
support, contact your Symantec reps.

.../Ed

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RE: [Veritas-bu] Symantec and Linux support

2006-05-10 Thread markjessup
We are also interested in long term support for SLES on Zseries.   

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Scott
Jacobson
Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2006 11:44 AM
To: Ed Wilts; List Veritas List
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Symantec and Linux support

Ed,
 
What about the other white meat.  We have SLES 8 and 9 Linux boxes
running as both Master and Media Servers.
 
;-)
 
-sj

 Ed Wilts [EMAIL PROTECTED] 5/10/2006 10:17 AM 
I regularly see postings from people looking to enhance their use of
Linux as NetBackup servers.  Although I am a *strong* Linux advocate
and
a Red Hat Certified Engineer, I would advise that you think long and
hard about this decision.  Symantec  has not yet been able to
demonstrate any willingness to support Red Hat Enterprise Linux as an
enterprise platform.

Fact:  NetBackup 6.5, targeted for release in February, 2007, will
drop
support for RHEL 3.  RHEL 3 started shipping in October, 2003 and will
be supported by Red Hat through October, 2010.  Symantec will cut you
off with its current release nearly 4 years before Red Hat stops
supporting the OS.  On the other hand, Windows 2000, which was
released
2 1/2 years earlier than RHEL 3, will still be supported by NetBackup
6.5.
Additionally, mainstream support for Win2K server has already ended
and
full support will end from Microsoft *before* RHEL 3 support ends. 
This
should show you where Symantec's priorities lie.

Fact:  Symantec Brightmail is not available for RHEL 4 so if you're
deploying today, you have to deploy on RHEL 3.  One Symantec
enterprise
product will soon be unable to back up another Symantec enterprise
product.  RHEL 4 has been out for over a year and still Symantec
hasn't
started supporting it. I just searched the support site for the system
requirements in case my local office was wrong, and RHEL 4 still does
not seem to be supported.

Fact:  NOM on Linux.  Nope, it doesn't exist.  Windows or Solaris
only.

Symantec doesn't seem to get it.  I'm turning blue in the face trying
to
explain this to my local office.  I know that there are Symantec folks
on this list - feel free to pass this on.  Symantec's actions do not
go
without notice.

I've been asked by my management why we're not using Linux for
NetBackup
and I bluntly told them that Symantec can't be trusted to support the
platform as it should be trusted.  We recently replaced our master and
one of our media servers and stuck with Solaris.  We spent a lot more
money but at least I know it will work.

Enough rambling.  If you have concerns about NetBackup and Linux
support, contact your Symantec reps.

.../Ed

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RE: [Veritas-bu] Symantec and Linux support

2006-05-10 Thread Brooks, Jason
Thanks for the info Ed.  I will definitely be contacting my rep and
engineer regarding this.  I don't want to be stuck back too far in order
to support RHEL3.  We have more and more Linux server here, running
various editions of RedHat, from RedHat 9, to RHEL2-4.  RHEL4 currently
has no BMR support- slated for 6.0MP4.  We'll see.  One of the reasons
we went with NBU was cross-platform compatibility and functionality.  It
will be pathetic if we would have to abandon NBU because of support.

Jason 

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ed Wilts
 Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2006 12:18 PM
 To: List Veritas List
 Subject: [Veritas-bu] Symantec and Linux support
 
 I regularly see postings from people looking to enhance their 
 use of Linux as NetBackup servers.  Although I am a *strong* 
 Linux advocate and a Red Hat Certified Engineer, I would 
 advise that you think long and hard about this decision.  
 Symantec  has not yet been able to demonstrate any 
 willingness to support Red Hat Enterprise Linux as an 
 enterprise platform.
 
 Fact:  NetBackup 6.5, targeted for release in February, 2007, 
 will drop support for RHEL 3.  RHEL 3 started shipping in 
 October, 2003 and will be supported by Red Hat through 
 October, 2010.  Symantec will cut you off with its current 
 release nearly 4 years before Red Hat stops supporting the 
 OS.  On the other hand, Windows 2000, which was released
 2 1/2 years earlier than RHEL 3, will still be supported by 
 NetBackup 6.5.
 Additionally, mainstream support for Win2K server has already 
 ended and full support will end from Microsoft *before* RHEL 
 3 support ends.  This should show you where Symantec's priorities lie.
 
 Fact:  Symantec Brightmail is not available for RHEL 4 so if 
 you're deploying today, you have to deploy on RHEL 3.  One 
 Symantec enterprise product will soon be unable to back up 
 another Symantec enterprise product.  RHEL 4 has been out for 
 over a year and still Symantec hasn't started supporting it. 
 I just searched the support site for the system requirements 
 in case my local office was wrong, and RHEL 4 still does not 
 seem to be supported.
  
 Fact:  NOM on Linux.  Nope, it doesn't exist.  Windows or 
 Solaris only.
 
 Symantec doesn't seem to get it.  I'm turning blue in the 
 face trying to explain this to my local office.  I know that 
 there are Symantec folks on this list - feel free to pass 
 this on.  Symantec's actions do not go without notice.
 
 I've been asked by my management why we're not using Linux 
 for NetBackup and I bluntly told them that Symantec can't be 
 trusted to support the platform as it should be trusted.  We 
 recently replaced our master and one of our media servers and 
 stuck with Solaris.  We spent a lot more money but at least I 
 know it will work.
 
 Enough rambling.  If you have concerns about NetBackup and 
 Linux support, contact your Symantec reps.
 
 .../Ed
 
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RE: [Veritas-bu] Symantec and Linux support

2006-05-10 Thread Greenberg, Katherine A
I don't honestly know of a single company these days that isn't looking
at Linux for one reason or another...

Unless you aren't. And then I'll know of one :)


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Shekhar
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I've been asked by my management why we're not using Linux for
NetBackup


Any particular reason -your management is interested in Linux ? 


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Jacobson
Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2006 12:44 PM
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Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Symantec and Linux support

Ed,
 
What about the other white meat.  We have SLES 8 and 9 Linux boxes
running as both Master and Media Servers.
 
;-)
 
-sj

 Ed Wilts [EMAIL PROTECTED] 5/10/2006 10:17 AM 
I regularly see postings from people looking to enhance their use of
Linux as NetBackup servers.  Although I am a *strong* Linux advocate and
a Red Hat Certified Engineer, I would advise that you think long and
hard about this decision.  Symantec  has not yet been able to
demonstrate any willingness to support Red Hat Enterprise Linux as an
enterprise platform.

Fact:  NetBackup 6.5, targeted for release in February, 2007, will drop
support for RHEL 3.  RHEL 3 started shipping in October, 2003 and will
be supported by Red Hat through October, 2010.  Symantec will cut you
off with its current release nearly 4 years before Red Hat stops
supporting the OS.  On the other hand, Windows 2000, which was released
2 1/2 years earlier than RHEL 3, will still be supported by NetBackup
6.5. Additionally, mainstream support for Win2K server has already ended
and full support will end from Microsoft *before* RHEL 3 support ends. 
This
should show you where Symantec's priorities lie.

Fact:  Symantec Brightmail is not available for RHEL 4 so if you're
deploying today, you have to deploy on RHEL 3.  One Symantec enterprise
product will soon be unable to back up another Symantec enterprise
product.  RHEL 4 has been out for over a year and still Symantec hasn't
started supporting it. I just searched the support site for the system
requirements in case my local office was wrong, and RHEL 4 still does
not seem to be supported.

Fact:  NOM on Linux.  Nope, it doesn't exist.  Windows or Solaris only.

Symantec doesn't seem to get it.  I'm turning blue in the face trying to
explain this to my local office.  I know that there are Symantec folks
on this list - feel free to pass this on.  Symantec's actions do not go
without notice.

I've been asked by my management why we're not using Linux for NetBackup
and I bluntly told them that Symantec can't be trusted to support the
platform as it should be trusted.  We recently replaced our master and
one of our media servers and stuck with Solaris.  We spent a lot more
money but at least I know it will work.

Enough rambling.  If you have concerns about NetBackup and Linux
support, contact your Symantec reps.

.../Ed

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Re: [Veritas-bu] Symantec and Linux support

2006-05-10 Thread Steven L. Sesar




Perceived lower TCO, percieved increased stability compared to Windows,
less prone to viral infections as opposed to Windows, perceived
increased ability to harden Linux versus, Windows, to name a few
reasons why we've chosen to look at Linux. In some technology spaces it
makes sense, in others, it doesn't. The key operative above is,
"perceived".






Dhotre, Shekhar wrote:

  

  I've been asked by my management why we're not using Linux for
  

  
  NetBackup


Any particular reason -your management is interested in Linux ? 


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Scott
Jacobson
Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2006 12:44 PM
To: Ed Wilts; List Veritas List
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Symantec and Linux support

Ed,
 
What about the other "white meat".  We have SLES 8 and 9 Linux boxes
running as both Master and Media Servers.
 
;-)
 
-sj

  
  

  
Ed Wilts [EMAIL PROTECTED] 5/10/2006 10:17 AM 

  

  
  I regularly see postings from people looking to enhance their use of
Linux as NetBackup servers.  Although I am a *strong* Linux advocate and
a Red Hat Certified Engineer, I would advise that you think long and
hard about this decision.  Symantec  has not yet been able to
demonstrate any willingness to support Red Hat Enterprise Linux as an
enterprise platform.

Fact:  NetBackup 6.5, targeted for release in February, 2007, will drop
support for RHEL 3.  RHEL 3 started shipping in October, 2003 and will
be supported by Red Hat through October, 2010.  Symantec will cut you
off with its current release nearly 4 years before Red Hat stops
supporting the OS.  On the other hand, Windows 2000, which was released
2 1/2 years earlier than RHEL 3, will still be supported by NetBackup
6.5.
Additionally, mainstream support for Win2K server has already ended and
full support will end from Microsoft *before* RHEL 3 support ends. 
This
should show you where Symantec's priorities lie.

Fact:  Symantec Brightmail is not available for RHEL 4 so if you're
deploying today, you have to deploy on RHEL 3.  One Symantec enterprise
product will soon be unable to back up another Symantec enterprise
product.  RHEL 4 has been out for over a year and still Symantec hasn't
started supporting it. I just searched the support site for the system
requirements in case my local office was wrong, and RHEL 4 still does
not seem to be supported.

Fact:  NOM on Linux.  Nope, it doesn't exist.  Windows or Solaris only.

Symantec doesn't seem to get it.  I'm turning blue in the face trying to
explain this to my local office.  I know that there are Symantec folks
on this list - feel free to pass this on.  Symantec's actions do not go
without notice.

I've been asked by my management why we're not using Linux for NetBackup
and I bluntly told them that Symantec can't be trusted to support the
platform as it should be trusted.  We recently replaced our master and
one of our media servers and stuck with Solaris.  We spent a lot more
money but at least I know it will work.

Enough rambling.  If you have concerns about NetBackup and Linux
support, contact your Symantec reps.

.../Ed

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[Veritas-bu] cannot read media header

2006-05-10 Thread Tim Duncan
Title: cannot read media header







I have a SDLT tape that according to the netbackup catalog contains netbackup images, 

When ever I try to read the media's content I receive the error Error from master server. Cannot read media header , may not be Netbackup media or corrupt. 

I have worked with Veritas tech support, but they have offered no solution to recoverying the data on this tape. I suspect the media header is corrupt but the images are still on the tape. Any recommendation or soultions to recoverying the data off this tape will be appreciated. 

Vertias 5.1MP5



Tim Duncan






RE: [Veritas-bu] Symantec and Linux support

2006-05-10 Thread Jeff Lightner
I'm with you.  Linux for enterprise is a reality.  RedHat and Suse are
the two main commercial variants.  We use RHEL here and they used it at
Cisco when I worked there as well.

Not supporting the two main commercial distros is showing a lack of
recognizing reality.  My company has no plans to move to SLES from RHEL
anytime soon.  If forced into choosing between changing our Linux distro
or our backup solution I'm not sure which would win and would think
Symantec wouldn't want to be tied to one or the other.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Greenberg,
Katherine A
Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2006 1:28 PM
To: Dhotre, Shekhar; List Veritas List
Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] Symantec and Linux support

I don't honestly know of a single company these days that isn't looking
at Linux for one reason or another...

Unless you aren't. And then I'll know of one :)


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dhotre,
Shekhar
Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2006 1:23 PM
To: Scott Jacobson; Ed Wilts; List Veritas List
Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] Symantec and Linux support


I've been asked by my management why we're not using Linux for
NetBackup


Any particular reason -your management is interested in Linux ? 


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Scott
Jacobson
Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2006 12:44 PM
To: Ed Wilts; List Veritas List
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Symantec and Linux support

Ed,
 
What about the other white meat.  We have SLES 8 and 9 Linux boxes
running as both Master and Media Servers.
 
;-)
 
-sj

 Ed Wilts [EMAIL PROTECTED] 5/10/2006 10:17 AM 
I regularly see postings from people looking to enhance their use of
Linux as NetBackup servers.  Although I am a *strong* Linux advocate and
a Red Hat Certified Engineer, I would advise that you think long and
hard about this decision.  Symantec  has not yet been able to
demonstrate any willingness to support Red Hat Enterprise Linux as an
enterprise platform.

Fact:  NetBackup 6.5, targeted for release in February, 2007, will drop
support for RHEL 3.  RHEL 3 started shipping in October, 2003 and will
be supported by Red Hat through October, 2010.  Symantec will cut you
off with its current release nearly 4 years before Red Hat stops
supporting the OS.  On the other hand, Windows 2000, which was released
2 1/2 years earlier than RHEL 3, will still be supported by NetBackup
6.5. Additionally, mainstream support for Win2K server has already ended
and full support will end from Microsoft *before* RHEL 3 support ends. 
This
should show you where Symantec's priorities lie.

Fact:  Symantec Brightmail is not available for RHEL 4 so if you're
deploying today, you have to deploy on RHEL 3.  One Symantec enterprise
product will soon be unable to back up another Symantec enterprise
product.  RHEL 4 has been out for over a year and still Symantec hasn't
started supporting it. I just searched the support site for the system
requirements in case my local office was wrong, and RHEL 4 still does
not seem to be supported.

Fact:  NOM on Linux.  Nope, it doesn't exist.  Windows or Solaris only.

Symantec doesn't seem to get it.  I'm turning blue in the face trying to
explain this to my local office.  I know that there are Symantec folks
on this list - feel free to pass this on.  Symantec's actions do not go
without notice.

I've been asked by my management why we're not using Linux for NetBackup
and I bluntly told them that Symantec can't be trusted to support the
platform as it should be trusted.  We recently replaced our master and
one of our media servers and stuck with Solaris.  We spent a lot more
money but at least I know it will work.

Enough rambling.  If you have concerns about NetBackup and Linux
support, contact your Symantec reps.

.../Ed

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[Veritas-bu] Sg / sgen driver issue

2006-05-10 Thread Song, Young


I'm trying to set up Sun Fire-480R as a new backup server to replace an old
one and in a situation where I'm stuck and thus want to ask here.

I'm running Solaris 8 with all the latest Solaris patches including st
driver patch, etc.  latest SAN Foundation Kit 4.4.9. 

And I have a FC-attached HP MSL 5060 library with 2 LTO-1 drives via Brocade
Silkworm switches.

After installing NetBackup v5.1, I tried following the steps in
MediaMgr_DeviceConfig_Guide.txt but no matter what I tried, I couldn't have
it see both tape drives properly and I believe it's something to do with
sg.conf, sg.links,  devlink.tab files. However, I may be wrong.

I tried all I could try with cfgadm, devfsadm, luxadm, zoning, etc. and know
that I have all the proper connections and the box can see the library
itself but not all the drives.

Anyone experienced similar things and have any advice?


Thank you in advance!!!


- Young


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FW: [Veritas-bu] File listing for Fragment

2006-05-10 Thread Mickey Baker

Andrew,

Were these tapes made using ndmp or were they made using a mapped drive from
a NetBackup enabled client?

ndmp uses a dump file format like Solaris ufsdump. If your restoring from
ndmp, once you put the NetBackup fragments back together, you will then have
an Ontap compatible dump file, which you can use an Ontap “restore” command
or Solaris ufsdump. I don’t see getting around having to restore the entire
dumpfile, which is a PITA for those of us use to the ease of single file
restore with NetBackup, but is a reality when dealing with ndmp in
combination with any 3rd party software. 

Why go to all this bother?  Import all the tapes into NetBackup, then
restore the entire qtree to an alternate location using NetBackup. Pick out
the files you need and move them back where you need them.

That’s really the best way to do it. You can create an alternate location to
restore with inexpensive storage for less money than you can write the code
to do it – and you’re still going to need to restore the entire dump file
somewhere or write code to dynamically keep track of both the fragment
structure and the dump file structure as you parse them in memory somewhere.

It sounds like that should be a piece of software worth some $$$.

If I’m wrong here, someone please correct me.

Mickey Baker
Safe Data Services, LLC
Independent Storage Consultant


From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andrew Wilkin
Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2006 1:12 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] File listing for Fragment

Ok then,
 
I can identify that the file I'm looking for  is 'x' blocks from the start
of the backup image!, this is the  5th field in the *.f file.  My value is
105001394 for the 5th field.
 
How do I then go 'x' blocks from the start of the backup image on the tape?
I've been using 'mt' and it uses 'files' to count, not 'blocks' as specified
within the *.f file. Should I be using another utility?
 
Thanks
 
Regards 
Andrew Wilkin
Computer Systems Analyst 
Department of Lands
Panorama Ave
BATHURST, NSW, 2795, AUSTRALIA 
Ph: 61 2 6332 8397
Fx: 61 2 6332 8457
E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
WEB: www.lands.nsw.gov.au http://www.lands.nsw.gov.au 

 


From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, 10 May 2006 8:26 AM
To: Andrew Wilkin
Cc: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] File listing for Fragment
No offense, but seeking to a single fragment  reading files is netbackup's
job.  The TOC you describe (associating fragment to file) is the quick
definition of Netbackup's image catalog.  You're starting to write the
application you've already bought.
 
To answer your question, I think you're going to have to mine the catalog
directly for the info you're looking for.  Look under the
/usr/openv/netbackup/db/images/client/timestamp/imagename.f files for
the file to frag info.  If you're using the binary catalog, you'll have to
convert them.
 
-M


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Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 2:53 PM
To: Andrew Wilkin
Cc: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] File listing for Fragment
Try bpimagelist -backupid (backup_id)

Steve
 
On 5/5/06, Andrew Wilkin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
Hi All,
 
I'm after a away to extract the files that are contained within an
individual BackupId that has multiple Fragments (File number on a Tape).
 
If I have a single backup image and it spans many Fragments / File
Numbers, on the media, is there a way to extract a listing's of those files
from a single Fragment/File Number using a single backup id, though the are
multiple Fragments for that single backup? (sorry but I've repeated myself
here!) 
 
I know I can get a complete listing of a specific backup using bpmedialist
and give the backup id etc. But using the Images on Media control( from the
GUI), I can see the multiple Fragments on the Tape with the File Numbers, so
there must be a way somehow to relate this back into the NetBackup DataBase
to use it! 
 
This has come about from an historic NDMP system I've had to recover from
and for the particular directory, they are 27 Fragments, and I know how to
extract the NDMP backup using a SUN system, but I didn't know which file on
the tape to skip to. I have managed to extract the data. But I'm hoping I
can get a better solution to what I've done, by creating a TOC for each of
the Fragments and grep-ping for my data to extract! 
 
Thanks
 
Regards 
Andrew Wilkin
Computer Systems Analyst 
Department of Lands 
Panorama Ave
BATHURST, NSW, 2795, AUSTRALIA 
Ph: 61 2 6332 8397
Fx: 61 2 6332 8457 
E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
WEB: www.lands.nsw.gov.au  http://www.lands.nsw.gov.au 
 
 
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Re: [Veritas-bu] Sg / sgen driver issue

2006-05-10 Thread MacKinnon, G. R. (Gregory)

Song, Young wrote:


I'm trying to set up Sun Fire-480R as a new backup server to replace an old
one and in a situation where I'm stuck and thus want to ask here.

I'm running Solaris 8 with all the latest Solaris patches including st
driver patch, etc.  latest SAN Foundation Kit 4.4.9. 


And I have a FC-attached HP MSL 5060 library with 2 LTO-1 drives via Brocade
Silkworm switches.

After installing NetBackup v5.1, I tried following the steps in
MediaMgr_DeviceConfig_Guide.txt but no matter what I tried, I couldn't have
it see both tape drives properly and I believe it's something to do with
sg.conf, sg.links,  devlink.tab files. However, I may be wrong.

I tried all I could try with cfgadm, devfsadm, luxadm, zoning, etc. and know
that I have all the proper connections and the box can see the library
itself but not all the drives.

Anyone experienced similar things and have any advice?


Thank you in advance!!!


- Young


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Young,
If your /kernel/drv/st.conf  and sg.conf aren't correct all the
commands *adm commands won't do a thing. I'd start with
the st.conf. And there is probably a .conf file for whatever
kind of hba you're using on the 480.

Gregg

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[Veritas-bu] BMR Boot Error

2006-05-10 Thread Brooks, Jason
I'm still working at testing BMR.  Having loads of fun ;-)

Today's task: take a BMR image of a Win2K server and restore it to new
hardware, all Dell boxes.  Original is not RAID, BMR restore to RAID.
Build a generic boot floppy with appropriate drivers, recent downloads
from Dell's site.  Booted the client and received an error something
like this:

This program cannot be run in DOS mode.

Neither google nor veritas/symantec seem to know about this any later
than NBU 4.5.  Anyone else seen this?  Suggestions for a fix?


Or, just punt and open another case?


Thanks,
Jason


Jason Brooks
Computer Systems Engineer
IITS - Longwood University
voice - (434) 395-2916
fax - (434) 395-2035
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Re: [Veritas-bu] Symantec and Linux support

2006-05-10 Thread Ed Wilts
On Wed, May 10, 2006 at 10:44:19AM -0600, Scott Jacobson wrote:
 Ed,
  
 What about the other white meat.  We have SLES 8 and 9 Linux boxes
 running as both Master and Media Servers.

Symantec doesn't support Brightmail on any Linux distribution other than
RHEL 3 AS and RHEL 3 ES.  That should tell you something about their
Linux commitment too - after all, I'd put SLES in the same category as
RHEL for enterprise-quality (even though I've never worked with SLES).

I've not looked at NetBackup support on SLES at all.

.../Ed

  
 ;-)
  
 -sj
 
  Ed Wilts [EMAIL PROTECTED] 5/10/2006 10:17 AM 
 I regularly see postings from people looking to enhance their use of
 Linux as NetBackup servers.  Although I am a *strong* Linux advocate
 and
 a Red Hat Certified Engineer, I would advise that you think long and
 hard about this decision.  Symantec  has not yet been able to
 demonstrate any willingness to support Red Hat Enterprise Linux as an
 enterprise platform.
 
 Fact:  NetBackup 6.5, targeted for release in February, 2007, will
 drop
 support for RHEL 3.  RHEL 3 started shipping in October, 2003 and will
 be supported by Red Hat through October, 2010.  Symantec will cut you
 off with its current release nearly 4 years before Red Hat stops
 supporting the OS.  On the other hand, Windows 2000, which was
 released
 2 1/2 years earlier than RHEL 3, will still be supported by NetBackup
 6.5.
 Additionally, mainstream support for Win2K server has already ended
 and
 full support will end from Microsoft *before* RHEL 3 support ends. 
 This
 should show you where Symantec's priorities lie.
 
 Fact:  Symantec Brightmail is not available for RHEL 4 so if you're
 deploying today, you have to deploy on RHEL 3.  One Symantec
 enterprise
 product will soon be unable to back up another Symantec enterprise
 product.  RHEL 4 has been out for over a year and still Symantec
 hasn't
 started supporting it. I just searched the support site for the system
 requirements in case my local office was wrong, and RHEL 4 still does
 not seem to be supported.
 
 Fact:  NOM on Linux.  Nope, it doesn't exist.  Windows or Solaris
 only.
 
 Symantec doesn't seem to get it.  I'm turning blue in the face trying
 to
 explain this to my local office.  I know that there are Symantec folks
 on this list - feel free to pass this on.  Symantec's actions do not
 go
 without notice.
 
 I've been asked by my management why we're not using Linux for
 NetBackup
 and I bluntly told them that Symantec can't be trusted to support the
 platform as it should be trusted.  We recently replaced our master and
 one of our media servers and stuck with Solaris.  We spent a lot more
 money but at least I know it will work.
 
 Enough rambling.  If you have concerns about NetBackup and Linux
 support, contact your Symantec reps.
 
 .../Ed
 
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RE: [Veritas-bu] Symantec and Linux support

2006-05-10 Thread Greenberg, Katherine A
Looks like they're about as supported as each other... under 6.0.

http://ftp.support.veritas.com/pub/support/products/NetBackup_Enterprise
_Server/278064.pdf

Things that crack me up though, are things like... ITANIUM SUPPORT being
the cats meow! I mean, come on, did everyone out there seriously pick
Intel over AMD in the 64-bit platform arena?? (if you did, sorry)

~Kate




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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ed Wilts
Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2006 3:48 PM
To: Scott Jacobson
Cc: List Veritas List
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Symantec and Linux support


On Wed, May 10, 2006 at 10:44:19AM -0600, Scott Jacobson wrote:
 Ed,
  
 What about the other white meat.  We have SLES 8 and 9 Linux boxes 
 running as both Master and Media Servers.

Symantec doesn't support Brightmail on any Linux distribution other than
RHEL 3 AS and RHEL 3 ES.  That should tell you something about their
Linux commitment too - after all, I'd put SLES in the same category as
RHEL for enterprise-quality (even though I've never worked with SLES).

I've not looked at NetBackup support on SLES at all.

.../Ed

  
 ;-)
  
 -sj
 
  Ed Wilts [EMAIL PROTECTED] 5/10/2006 10:17 AM 
 I regularly see postings from people looking to enhance their use of 
 Linux as NetBackup servers.  Although I am a *strong* Linux advocate 
 and a Red Hat Certified Engineer, I would advise that you think long 
 and hard about this decision.  Symantec  has not yet been able to
 demonstrate any willingness to support Red Hat Enterprise Linux as an
 enterprise platform.
 
 Fact:  NetBackup 6.5, targeted for release in February, 2007, will 
 drop support for RHEL 3.  RHEL 3 started shipping in October, 2003 and

 will be supported by Red Hat through October, 2010.  Symantec will cut

 you off with its current release nearly 4 years before Red Hat stops
 supporting the OS.  On the other hand, Windows 2000, which was
 released
 2 1/2 years earlier than RHEL 3, will still be supported by NetBackup
 6.5.
 Additionally, mainstream support for Win2K server has already ended
 and
 full support will end from Microsoft *before* RHEL 3 support ends. 
 This
 should show you where Symantec's priorities lie.
 
 Fact:  Symantec Brightmail is not available for RHEL 4 so if you're 
 deploying today, you have to deploy on RHEL 3.  One Symantec 
 enterprise product will soon be unable to back up another Symantec 
 enterprise product.  RHEL 4 has been out for over a year and still 
 Symantec hasn't
 started supporting it. I just searched the support site for the system
 requirements in case my local office was wrong, and RHEL 4 still does
 not seem to be supported.
 
 Fact:  NOM on Linux.  Nope, it doesn't exist.  Windows or Solaris 
 only.
 
 Symantec doesn't seem to get it.  I'm turning blue in the face trying 
 to explain this to my local office.  I know that there are Symantec 
 folks on this list - feel free to pass this on.  Symantec's actions do

 not go
 without notice.
 
 I've been asked by my management why we're not using Linux for 
 NetBackup and I bluntly told them that Symantec can't be trusted to 
 support the platform as it should be trusted.  We recently replaced 
 our master and one of our media servers and stuck with Solaris.  We 
 spent a lot more money but at least I know it will work.
 
 Enough rambling.  If you have concerns about NetBackup and Linux 
 support, contact your Symantec reps.
 
 .../Ed
 
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[Veritas-bu] Alfred MAK is on leave

2006-05-10 Thread Alfred KY MAK

I will be out of the office starting  05/11/2006 and will not return until
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Re: [Veritas-bu] Symantec and Linux support

2006-05-10 Thread Robin Small
Or for that matter, OES/Linux.
 
It'd be really nice to *at least* run media servers w/ OES, so cluster
nodes could back themselves up.
I was told it's not on the roadmap as of Feb/06

~ Robin
 
 Scott Jacobson [EMAIL PROTECTED] 05/10/06 9:44 AM  
Ed,
 
What about the other white meat.  We have SLES 8 and 9 Linux boxes
running as both Master and Media Servers.
 
;- )
 
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RE: [Veritas-bu] Symantec and Linux support

2006-05-10 Thread Martin, Jonathan \(Contractor\)
All doom and gloom in the Linux camp today!  Take heart my fellow
hoohum'in Penguins!

http://ftp.support.veritas.com/pub/support/products/NetBackup_Enterprise
_Server/278064.pdf

Comment #98- Next major release following NetBackup 6.0 will not support
this OS version. This status could change if market and/or vendor
support positions change.

Talk about CYA!  That's only next to the 64Bit and Older versions of
RedHat and SLES.  The newer versions (Redhat 4 / SLES9) have no such
comment for 32bit, although the 64bit is a bit disconcerting. =/

I personally am hoping to upgrade to Redhat Media Servers when we
upgrade to 6!

Keep the faith!  (Whatever small amount there may be left!)

-J

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ed Wilts
Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2006 3:48 PM
To: Scott Jacobson
Cc: List Veritas List
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Symantec and Linux support

On Wed, May 10, 2006 at 10:44:19AM -0600, Scott Jacobson wrote:
 Ed,
  
 What about the other white meat.  We have SLES 8 and 9 Linux boxes 
 running as both Master and Media Servers.

Symantec doesn't support Brightmail on any Linux distribution other than
RHEL 3 AS and RHEL 3 ES.  That should tell you something about their
Linux commitment too - after all, I'd put SLES in the same category as
RHEL for enterprise-quality (even though I've never worked with SLES).

I've not looked at NetBackup support on SLES at all.

.../Ed

  
 ;-)
  
 -sj
 
  Ed Wilts [EMAIL PROTECTED] 5/10/2006 10:17 AM 
 I regularly see postings from people looking to enhance their use of 
 Linux as NetBackup servers.  Although I am a *strong* Linux advocate 
 and a Red Hat Certified Engineer, I would advise that you think long 
 and hard about this decision.  Symantec  has not yet been able to 
 demonstrate any willingness to support Red Hat Enterprise Linux as an 
 enterprise platform.
 
 Fact:  NetBackup 6.5, targeted for release in February, 2007, will 
 drop support for RHEL 3.  RHEL 3 started shipping in October, 2003 and

 will be supported by Red Hat through October, 2010.  Symantec will cut

 you off with its current release nearly 4 years before Red Hat stops 
 supporting the OS.  On the other hand, Windows 2000, which was 
 released
 2 1/2 years earlier than RHEL 3, will still be supported by NetBackup 
 6.5.
 Additionally, mainstream support for Win2K server has already ended 
 and full support will end from Microsoft *before* RHEL 3 support ends.
 This
 should show you where Symantec's priorities lie.
 
 Fact:  Symantec Brightmail is not available for RHEL 4 so if you're 
 deploying today, you have to deploy on RHEL 3.  One Symantec 
 enterprise product will soon be unable to back up another Symantec 
 enterprise product.  RHEL 4 has been out for over a year and still 
 Symantec hasn't started supporting it. I just searched the support 
 site for the system requirements in case my local office was wrong, 
 and RHEL 4 still does not seem to be supported.
 
 Fact:  NOM on Linux.  Nope, it doesn't exist.  Windows or Solaris 
 only.
 
 Symantec doesn't seem to get it.  I'm turning blue in the face trying 
 to explain this to my local office.  I know that there are Symantec 
 folks on this list - feel free to pass this on.  Symantec's actions do

 not go without notice.
 
 I've been asked by my management why we're not using Linux for 
 NetBackup and I bluntly told them that Symantec can't be trusted to 
 support the platform as it should be trusted.  We recently replaced 
 our master and one of our media servers and stuck with Solaris.  We 
 spent a lot more money but at least I know it will work.
 
 Enough rambling.  If you have concerns about NetBackup and Linux 
 support, contact your Symantec reps.
 
 .../Ed
 
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RE: [Veritas-bu] NOM on Windows 2003 SP1

2006-05-10 Thread Mansell, Richard
Title: NOM on Windows 2003 SP1



Hi Fiona

We run NOM on Win 2003 as well but we use the [EMAIL PROTECTED] as that is the only one that 
seems to work with the admin account.

That does appear to be backed up by the Release 
Notes:-


"The 
initial domain name is NOM_BuiltIn@FQHN. FQHN is the fully qualified 
host name on which the NOM server and NOM 
web client are running."

Regards

Richard

  
  
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  I am attempting to install NOM into a 
  Windows environment with no success, I have managed to get it working on 
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  Master Server = Windows 2003 SP1, NBU 
  6.0GA NOM Server = Windows 2003 
  SP1, NBU Client 6.0GA 
  On the NOM server we installed Java 1.5.x 
  that we downloaded from the internet, PBX and VxSS as per the installation 
  guide. We then installed NOM, checked that all services are started, 
  including the Veritas Web service.
  We start NOM and obtained a login screen 
  choose English (or Default) for the Language, admin for the user, Vxadmin for 
  the password and the Domain we left as the default which was 
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  "User 
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  selected domain" 
  If we keep trying we eventually get a 
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  The server excountered an 
  internal error () that prevented it from fulfilling this request" 
  Further down: 
  "Root cause 
  Failed to get credentials. 
  hostname.domain. [vx. NOM_TRUSTED_CLIENTS hostname.domain]" 
  Any help or direction would be much 
  appreciated. 
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Re: [Veritas-bu] Symantec and Linux support

2006-05-10 Thread Ed Wilts
On Wed, May 10, 2006 at 04:27:41PM -0400, Martin, Jonathan (Contractor) wrote:
 Comment #98- Next major release following NetBackup 6.0 will not support
 this OS version. This status could change if market and/or vendor
 support positions change.
 
 Talk about CYA!  That's only next to the 64Bit and Older versions of
 RedHat and SLES.  The newer versions (Redhat 4 / SLES9) have no such
 comment for 32bit, although the 64bit is a bit disconcerting. =/

Yeah, my sales rep is saying no decision has been made yet Symantec
has officially documented no support.  Which vendor support positions
are they talking about?  The one by Red Hat that says RHEL 3 is
supported through October, 2010?  Or the one that by Microsoft by says
that Win2K is no longer supported but Symantec is chosing to support it
anyway? 

RHEL 3 is not an older version - it's not the current version, but
it's the one that even Symantec forces us to deploy today for some of
their enterprise products.

The only thing that I believe will get Symantec to change their minds is
the market support position.  We, as the customer community, have to
tell Symantec that their support commitment sucks and is not acceptable.
Red Hat is commited to RHEL 3 - why won't Symantec commit to it?

.../Ed

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RE: [Veritas-bu] Renaming NB 6.0MP2 servers

2006-05-10 Thread Tristan Ball



I'd be fascinated to know how? I had a try but ended up 
with a nbemm server that simply crashed as soon as it started. I've still got an 
open case with support on how it can be done - their answer so far is that it 
can be done, but they have to figure it out first!

Regards,
 Tristan


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SesarSent: Thursday, 11 May 2006 12:39 AMTo: WEAVER, 
SimonCc: 'Justin Piszcz'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 
veritas-buSubject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Renaming NB 6.0MP2 
servers
I've done it - it was actually a more complex problem in my case: I 
cooked 4 master servers (1 Windows, 3 Solaris) down into one Solaris master. It 
was a very time-consuming and involved process. It worked just fine, however 
there are a ton of "gotchas" along the way. I did a lot of scripting, both 
beforehand and on the fly, in order to get this to work. I also had a very good 
working knowledge of NBU and its internals. please be sure that you really need 
to do this before attempting it.--SteveWEAVER, Simon wrote: 

  
  It can be done - I just spoke to someone but told me 
  its a drawn out process (not supported by Symantec) but it could 
  work.
  
  Not too sure how much of a risk it 
  is
  
  
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RE: [Veritas-bu] Symantec and Linux support

2006-05-10 Thread Tristan Ball
To all the folks who have active Veritas support contracts, and who are
struggling with Veritas's patchy linux support - can I suggest we all
add our thoughts to:
http://enhancement.veritas.com/

At least that way there's some chance that someone further up from your
local account rep will see it. :-)

Regards,
Tristan 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ed Wilts
Sent: Thursday, 11 May 2006 2:18 AM
To: List Veritas List
Subject: [Veritas-bu] Symantec and Linux support

I regularly see postings from people looking to enhance their use of
Linux as NetBackup servers.  Although I am a *strong* Linux advocate and
a Red Hat Certified Engineer, I would advise that you think long and
hard about this decision.  Symantec  has not yet been able to
demonstrate any willingness to support Red Hat Enterprise Linux as an
enterprise platform.

Fact:  NetBackup 6.5, targeted for release in February, 2007, will drop
support for RHEL 3.  RHEL 3 started shipping in October, 2003 and will
be supported by Red Hat through October, 2010.  Symantec will cut you
off with its current release nearly 4 years before Red Hat stops
supporting the OS.  On the other hand, Windows 2000, which was released
2 1/2 years earlier than RHEL 3, will still be supported by NetBackup
6.5.
Additionally, mainstream support for Win2K server has already ended and
full support will end from Microsoft *before* RHEL 3 support ends.  This
should show you where Symantec's priorities lie.

Fact:  Symantec Brightmail is not available for RHEL 4 so if you're
deploying today, you have to deploy on RHEL 3.  One Symantec enterprise
product will soon be unable to back up another Symantec enterprise
product.  RHEL 4 has been out for over a year and still Symantec hasn't
started supporting it. I just searched the support site for the system
requirements in case my local office was wrong, and RHEL 4 still does
not seem to be supported.
 
Fact:  NOM on Linux.  Nope, it doesn't exist.  Windows or Solaris only.

Symantec doesn't seem to get it.  I'm turning blue in the face trying to
explain this to my local office.  I know that there are Symantec folks
on this list - feel free to pass this on.  Symantec's actions do not go
without notice.

I've been asked by my management why we're not using Linux for NetBackup
and I bluntly told them that Symantec can't be trusted to support the
platform as it should be trusted.  We recently replaced our master and
one of our media servers and stuck with Solaris.  We spent a lot more
money but at least I know it will work.

Enough rambling.  If you have concerns about NetBackup and Linux
support, contact your Symantec reps.

.../Ed

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RE: [Veritas-bu] Sg / sgen driver issue

2006-05-10 Thread Tristan Ball
Have a look at your st.conf. I have a MSL 6030, and it attaches to the
FC via a built in SCSI/FC router. That router presents the tape drives
as LUN's 1  2, with the controller as LUN 0.

By default, the solaris st only scans LUN 0, but that can be changed in
ST conf.

Regards,
Tristan. 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Song,
Young
Sent: Thursday, 11 May 2006 4:33 AM
To: 'veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu'
Subject: [Veritas-bu] Sg / sgen driver issue



I'm trying to set up Sun Fire-480R as a new backup server to replace an
old one and in a situation where I'm stuck and thus want to ask here.

I'm running Solaris 8 with all the latest Solaris patches including st
driver patch, etc.  latest SAN Foundation Kit 4.4.9. 

And I have a FC-attached HP MSL 5060 library with 2 LTO-1 drives via
Brocade Silkworm switches.

After installing NetBackup v5.1, I tried following the steps in
MediaMgr_DeviceConfig_Guide.txt but no matter what I tried, I couldn't
have it see both tape drives properly and I believe it's something to do
with sg.conf, sg.links,  devlink.tab files. However, I may be wrong.

I tried all I could try with cfgadm, devfsadm, luxadm, zoning, etc. and
know that I have all the proper connections and the box can see the
library itself but not all the drives.

Anyone experienced similar things and have any advice?


Thank you in advance!!!


- Young


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RE: [Veritas-bu] Sg / sgen driver issue

2006-05-10 Thread Song, Young
 


Hi Tristan,


That sounds to be my case as well.

 From the info for the one drive and router that are visible, how can I
identify and add the correct entry for the other tape drive into st.conf
file?

Thanks!


- Young



-Original Message-
From: Tristan Ball [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2006 3:15 PM
To: Song, Young; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] Sg / sgen driver issue

Have a look at your st.conf. I have a MSL 6030, and it attaches to the FC
via a built in SCSI/FC router. That router presents the tape drives as LUN's
1  2, with the controller as LUN 0.

By default, the solaris st only scans LUN 0, but that can be changed in ST
conf.

Regards,
Tristan. 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Song, Young
Sent: Thursday, 11 May 2006 4:33 AM
To: 'veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu'
Subject: [Veritas-bu] Sg / sgen driver issue



I'm trying to set up Sun Fire-480R as a new backup server to replace an old
one and in a situation where I'm stuck and thus want to ask here.

I'm running Solaris 8 with all the latest Solaris patches including st
driver patch, etc.  latest SAN Foundation Kit 4.4.9. 

And I have a FC-attached HP MSL 5060 library with 2 LTO-1 drives via Brocade
Silkworm switches.

After installing NetBackup v5.1, I tried following the steps in
MediaMgr_DeviceConfig_Guide.txt but no matter what I tried, I couldn't have
it see both tape drives properly and I believe it's something to do with
sg.conf, sg.links,  devlink.tab files. However, I may be wrong.

I tried all I could try with cfgadm, devfsadm, luxadm, zoning, etc. and know
that I have all the proper connections and the box can see the library
itself but not all the drives.

Anyone experienced similar things and have any advice?


Thank you in advance!!!


- Young


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Re: [Veritas-bu] Symantec and Linux support

2006-05-10 Thread Ed Wilts
On Thu, May 11, 2006 at 08:08:48AM +1000, Tristan Ball wrote:
 To all the folks who have active Veritas support contracts, and who
 are struggling with Veritas's patchy linux support - can I suggest we
 all add our thoughts to: http://enhancement.veritas.com/

We're not asking for enhancements.  We're asking that they support the
operating systems that are still on active support by their
manufacturers.  If Red Hat has dropped support, I'd agree with
Symantec's position.  Right now, Symantec's position sucks.

I have completed the form though and I'll see if I even get a response.

.../Ed

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RE: [Veritas-bu] Symantec and Linux support

2006-05-10 Thread Conner, Neil

Can someone please send me the link to the client compatibility matrix
for Netbackup 4.5?

I can never seem to find what I'm looking for on the support web site...

TIA,
Neil


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Ball
Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2006 3:09 PM
To: Ed Wilts; List Veritas List
Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] Symantec and Linux support

To all the folks who have active Veritas support contracts, and who are
struggling with Veritas's patchy linux support - can I suggest we all
add our thoughts to:
http://enhancement.veritas.com/

At least that way there's some chance that someone further up from your
local account rep will see it. :-)

Regards,
Tristan 

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ed Wilts
Sent: Thursday, 11 May 2006 2:18 AM
To: List Veritas List
Subject: [Veritas-bu] Symantec and Linux support

I regularly see postings from people looking to enhance their use of
Linux as NetBackup servers.  Although I am a *strong* Linux advocate and
a Red Hat Certified Engineer, I would advise that you think long and
hard about this decision.  Symantec  has not yet been able to
demonstrate any willingness to support Red Hat Enterprise Linux as an
enterprise platform.

Fact:  NetBackup 6.5, targeted for release in February, 2007, will drop
support for RHEL 3.  RHEL 3 started shipping in October, 2003 and will
be supported by Red Hat through October, 2010.  Symantec will cut you
off with its current release nearly 4 years before Red Hat stops
supporting the OS.  On the other hand, Windows 2000, which was released
2 1/2 years earlier than RHEL 3, will still be supported by NetBackup
6.5.
Additionally, mainstream support for Win2K server has already ended and
full support will end from Microsoft *before* RHEL 3 support ends.  This
should show you where Symantec's priorities lie.

Fact:  Symantec Brightmail is not available for RHEL 4 so if you're
deploying today, you have to deploy on RHEL 3.  One Symantec enterprise
product will soon be unable to back up another Symantec enterprise
product.  RHEL 4 has been out for over a year and still Symantec hasn't
started supporting it. I just searched the support site for the system
requirements in case my local office was wrong, and RHEL 4 still does
not seem to be supported.
 
Fact:  NOM on Linux.  Nope, it doesn't exist.  Windows or Solaris only.

Symantec doesn't seem to get it.  I'm turning blue in the face trying to
explain this to my local office.  I know that there are Symantec folks
on this list - feel free to pass this on.  Symantec's actions do not go
without notice.

I've been asked by my management why we're not using Linux for NetBackup
and I bluntly told them that Symantec can't be trusted to support the
platform as it should be trusted.  We recently replaced our master and
one of our media servers and stuck with Solaris.  We spent a lot more
money but at least I know it will work.

Enough rambling.  If you have concerns about NetBackup and Linux
support, contact your Symantec reps.

.../Ed

--
Ed Wilts, RHCE
Mounds View, MN, USA
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RE: [Veritas-bu] Sg / sgen driver issue

2006-05-10 Thread Tristan Ball
Your st.conf probably has something like:

name=st class=scsi
target=0 lun=0;

name=st class=scsi
target=1 lun=0;

You need to add lines like:

name=st class=scsi
target=0 lun=1;

name=st class=scsi
target=0 lun=2;

I personally added Luns 1-7 on targets 0-7. That possibly makes boot up
a little slower, but it also means the drives will be picked up almost
regardless of whatever silliness I might pull on the SAN. :-)

Regards,
T.

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From: Song, Young [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, 11 May 2006 8:25 AM
To: Tristan Ball; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] Sg / sgen driver issue

 


Hi Tristan,


That sounds to be my case as well.

 From the info for the one drive and router that are visible, how can I
identify and add the correct entry for the other tape drive into st.conf
file?

Thanks!


- Young



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From: Tristan Ball [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2006 3:15 PM
To: Song, Young; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] Sg / sgen driver issue

Have a look at your st.conf. I have a MSL 6030, and it attaches to the
FC via a built in SCSI/FC router. That router presents the tape drives
as LUN's
1  2, with the controller as LUN 0.

By default, the solaris st only scans LUN 0, but that can be changed in
ST conf.

Regards,
Tristan. 

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Young
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Subject: [Veritas-bu] Sg / sgen driver issue



I'm trying to set up Sun Fire-480R as a new backup server to replace an
old one and in a situation where I'm stuck and thus want to ask here.

I'm running Solaris 8 with all the latest Solaris patches including st
driver patch, etc.  latest SAN Foundation Kit 4.4.9. 

And I have a FC-attached HP MSL 5060 library with 2 LTO-1 drives via
Brocade Silkworm switches.

After installing NetBackup v5.1, I tried following the steps in
MediaMgr_DeviceConfig_Guide.txt but no matter what I tried, I couldn't
have it see both tape drives properly and I believe it's something to do
with sg.conf, sg.links,  devlink.tab files. However, I may be wrong.

I tried all I could try with cfgadm, devfsadm, luxadm, zoning, etc. and
know that I have all the proper connections and the box can see the
library itself but not all the drives.

Anyone experienced similar things and have any advice?


Thank you in advance!!!


- Young


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RE: [Veritas-bu] cannot read media header

2006-05-10 Thread Beal, Matt
Title: cannot read media header



Take a look at this doc:

http://seer.support.veritas.com/docs/205940.htm

If the media header is 
corrupt, but the integrity of the tape is OK, then you should be able to skip 
past the media header (the first 'file' on the tape) and extract the rest of the 
data with NetBackup's version of tar.
matt


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DuncanSent: Wednesday, May 10, 2006 11:03 AMTo: 
veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.eduSubject: [Veritas-bu] cannot read 
media header

I have a SDLT tape that according to the netbackup 
catalog contains netbackup images, When ever 
I try to read the media's content I receive the error "Error from master 
server. Cannot read media header , may not be Netbackup media or corrupt. 

I have worked with Veritas tech support, but they 
have offered no solution to recoverying the data on this tape. I suspect the 
media header is corrupt but the images are still on the tape. Any recommendation 
or soultions to recoverying the data off this tape will be appreciated. 

Vertias 5.1MP5 
Tim Duncan 


RE: [Veritas-bu] cannot read media header

2006-05-10 Thread bob944
 From: Tim Duncan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
 Subject: [Veritas-bu] cannot read media header
 
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 I have a SDLT tape that according to the netbackup catalog contains
 netbackup images,=20
 When ever I try to read the media's content I receive the 
 error  Error
 from master server. Cannot read media header , may not be Netbackup
 media or corrupt.=20
 
 I have worked with Veritas tech support, but they have offered no
 solution to recoverying the data on this tape. I suspect the media
 header is corrupt but the images are still on the tape. Any
 recommendation or soultions to recoverying the data off this tape will
 be appreciated. =20

Tim - you can get creative with tools to try to figure out what, if
anything, is on this tape.

vmphyinv to see if it's a catalog or data tape or unknown.  bprecover -l
to see if it's a catalog tape.  Assuming no joy with those, you can use
mt and {dd|cp|copy|whatever} to copy the first (or more) file off the
tape (just to make them easier to work with) and see what it looks like
(send it to GNU tar, or cpio, or od, or ...).  File sizes are a good
clue--and matchable against frag sizes recorded in the catalog metadata.


A NetBackup label's content is very obvious (1HDR, tape number,
NetBackup magic text string) but you already know the first file isn't
that or you wouldn't be asking the question.  

If there is at least the start of a NetBackup image on the tape, it's
readable with tar.

If this really was a NetBackup tape (not doubting you, but consider that
the barcode could be physically swapped, for instance), and something
wrote to the tape at BOT, the chances are slim that you can recover data
from whatever used to be at the front of the tape.


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Re: [Veritas-bu] Export and Import NetBackup configuration

2006-05-10 Thread Dean
The dhost parameterjust restores the files from the catalog backup to a host other than the one you're running bprecover on. So you might have files other than the master catalog one the catalog backup tape, such as a media server's voldb, or even some non-NetBackup files. I used to backup several SQL-Backtrack catalogs with bpbackupdb, along with the master's catalog and several media server's voldbs.


The -dhost let me recover all of these different hosts' by just mounting the tape once on the master (but running bprecover several times).

You can physically restore the master catalog to whatever server name you like, but NetBackup (probably!) won't work... 
On 5/10/06, Whelan, Patrick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Am I misinterpreting the original post?According to the manual, using bprecover with the -dhost option is
supposed to allow recovery of the database to an alternate host. This isa snippet from the command manual.bprecover-dhost destination_hostSpecifies the host to which the selected catalog is restored. Normally,
catalogs are restored to the host where the data originated (asdisplayedwith the -l option). The -d option makes it possible to restore thecatalog to another host.Caution Use the dhost option with EXTREME caution, since it can
overwrite existingcatalogs on the destination host. To permit recovery in case youunintentionallyoverwrite the wrong catalogs, you can move existing catalogs to atemporarydirectory on the destination host.
The following NetBackup client software must be installed on thedestination host:/usr/openv/netbackup/bin/bpcdand/usr/openv/netbackup/bin/tarNote Do not specify -r all (or ALL) with -dhost when using this command.
Eitherexplicitly specify an image (for example, -r 2) or use the interactivemode (-r).Patrick WhelanNetBackup SpecialistArchitect  Engineering+44 20 7863 5243Of all the things I've lost, I miss my mind the most! - Unknown
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RE: [Veritas-bu] Export and Import NetBackup configuration

2006-05-10 Thread WEAVER, Simon

Kathy
Most likely from the Netbackup SysAdmin guide or Media Manager guide
perhaps?
Wasn't the original question about using bprecover on the same server which
would be in standby?

Regards

Simon Weaver
3rd Line Technical Support
Windows Domain Administrator 

EADS Astrium Limited, B32AA IM (DCS)
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-Original Message-
From: Kathy Falakfarsa [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 10 May 2006 17:24
To: Whelan, Patrick; Ed Wilts; WEAVER, Simon
Cc: Justin Piszcz; veritas-bu
Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] Export and Import NetBackup configuration


Thanks for the information.  Could you please let me know what document you
got that information from, so I can downloaded and review it.

Thanks

Kathy


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Patrick
Sent: May 10, 2006 11:48 AM
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Cc: Justin Piszcz; veritas-bu
Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] Export and Import NetBackup configuration

Am I misinterpreting the original post?

According to the manual, using bprecover with the -dhost option is supposed
to allow recovery of the database to an alternate host. This is a snippet
from the command manual.

bprecover
-dhost destination_host
Specifies the host to which the selected catalog is restored. Normally,
catalogs are restored to the host where the data originated (as displayed
with the -l option). The -d option makes it possible to restore the catalog
to another host.

Caution Use the dhost option with EXTREME caution, since it can overwrite
existing catalogs on the destination host. To permit recovery in case you
unintentionally overwrite the wrong catalogs, you can move existing catalogs
to a temporary directory on the destination host. The following NetBackup
client software must be installed on the destination host:
/usr/openv/netbackup/bin/bpcd and /usr/openv/netbackup/bin/tar Note Do not
specify -r all (or ALL) with -dhost when using this command. Either
explicitly specify an image (for example, -r 2) or use the interactive mode
(-r).


Patrick Whelan
NetBackup Specialist
Architect  Engineering
+44 20 7863 5243

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RE: [Veritas-bu] BMR Boot Error

2006-05-10 Thread WEAVER, Simon

Hi Jason
I am VERY interested in this product, as its something I am really looking
for.

Do you have any more details, pdf white papers, costs or links atall.

Happy to discuss off list if this goes off topic

Thanks

Regards

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From: Brooks, Jason [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 10 May 2006 19:59
To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: [Veritas-bu] BMR Boot Error


I'm still working at testing BMR.  Having loads of fun ;-)

Today's task: take a BMR image of a Win2K server and restore it to new
hardware, all Dell boxes.  Original is not RAID, BMR restore to RAID. Build
a generic boot floppy with appropriate drivers, recent downloads from Dell's
site.  Booted the client and received an error something like this:

This program cannot be run in DOS mode.

Neither google nor veritas/symantec seem to know about this any later than
NBU 4.5.  Anyone else seen this?  Suggestions for a fix?


Or, just punt and open another case?


Thanks,
Jason


Jason Brooks
Computer Systems Engineer
IITS - Longwood University
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RE: [Veritas-bu] cannot read media header

2006-05-10 Thread WEAVER, Simon
Title: Message



Tim
Was it used as a Catalog backup! Seen this error when using a tape 
that contains Netbackup Catalog information. It will not use the 
tape.

Regards
Simon Weaver3rd Line Technical SupportWindows 
Domain Administrator 
EADS Astrium 
Limited, B32AA IM (DCS)Anchorage Road, Portsmouth, PO3 
5PU
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  -Original Message-From: Tim Duncan 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 10 May 2006 19:03To: 
  veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.eduSubject: [Veritas-bu] cannot read 
  media header
  I have a SDLT tape that according to the netbackup 
  catalog contains netbackup images, When 
  ever I try to read the media's content I receive the error "Error from 
  master server. Cannot read media header , may not be Netbackup media or 
  corrupt. 
  I have worked with Veritas tech support, but they 
  have offered no solution to recoverying the data on this tape. I suspect the 
  media header is corrupt but the images are still on the tape. Any 
  recommendation or soultions to recoverying the data off this tape will be 
  appreciated. 
  Vertias 5.1MP5 
  Tim Duncan 

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