Re: [Veritas-bu] Aptare vs. NB 6.0 NOM reporting

2006-08-14 Thread Paul Keating
One of their guys sent me a couple commands to run that cleared things
up.

Paul

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 For us, that was an issue with Aptare not properly handling a cross
 reference of image ids.  If you look at the job that's hanging around,
 drill down and see if there are any related jobids.  What you will see
 is one of the jobs has valid data, but the other one has essentiall no
 data.  Ask them about removing obsolete/old jobs.
 
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[Veritas-bu] Veritas Netbackup 5.1 issue

2006-08-14 Thread unixsup




Hi All,

I have doubt in Veritas Netbackup 5.1

I am taking a incremental backup in Dir 
a:Monday
Dir 
b :Tuesday(i am Touching some file in Dir a)
 
Dir c: Wednesday(I am deleting the file created on Dira)

If i restore the contents of yeaterday i am 
finding the deleted file in Dira.Is that possible.i need to put any entry 
in bp.conf for not taking the backup of deleted files.

Thanks and Regards,
sund.
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Re: [Veritas-bu] Veritas Netbackup 5.1 issue

2006-08-14 Thread Paul Keating
Title: Message



if you 
do a "full restore", the process is:

1: 
restore all data from Full
2: 
restore all data from Monday
3: 
restore all data from Tuesday
4: 
restore all data from Wednesday.

There 
is no logic there to figure out that a file that existed on Tuesday no longer 
exists on Wednesday.

ie, 
the restore of Wednesday's data doesn't look at the target dir and say "oh, that 
file wasn't there when my backup ran, so I should delete 
it."

you 
will frequently get files "reappearing" when you do a full restore of all the 
incrementals over a couple days.

the 
only way to get around that, as far as I understand, is to use TIR, which if I 
understand correctly, will preprocess the data from all the backups and 
determine exactly what needs to be restored to get the system to a "Point in 
time" state, as of the time when the most recent selected image was 
taken.

Paul



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  Netbackup 5.1 issue
  
  Hi All,
  
  I have doubt in Veritas Netbackup 
5.1
  
  I am taking a incremental backup in Dir 
  a:Monday
  Dir 
  b :Tuesday(i am Touching some file in Dir a)
   
  Dir c: Wednesday(I am deleting the file created on Dira)
  
  If i restore the contents of yeaterday i am 
  finding the deleted file in Dira.Is that possible.i need to put any 
  entry in bp.conf for not taking the backup of deleted files.
  
  Thanks and Regards,
  sund.


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Re: [Veritas-bu] Veritas-bu Digest, Vol 4, Issue 55

2006-08-14 Thread WALLEBROEK Bart

Daryl,

We want to do the exact same thing.  Directly afterwards we are going to 
upgrade to NBU 6.0.  However we will use different
hostnames for the new Windows boxes.

Our local NetBackup support guy is coming over this Friday to perform the test 
in our testlab.  But to my knowledge/experience just
recovering a catalog from a Solaris/UNIX Master to a Windows Master is not 
possible due to the differences in filesystem.

But I will let you know the outcome of the migration test end of this week.

Best regards,

Bart Wallebroek
Backup Administrator
Swift

 

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Date: Sun, 13 Aug 2006 18:28:51 -0500
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Hello Everybody:

I have a quck question regarding NBU Master server migration. 
We are currently in the process of beginning to plan a 
migration of our Solaris 9 v5.1 Master/Media server to a v5.1 
Windows platform.

We are planning on doing the following:

1. Build Windows NBU Master/Media Server with the same name as 
the exisitng Solaris Master Media.

2. Perform a catalog backup of the existing Solaris 
Master/Media server.

3. Move existing library to new master/Media server.

4. Perform a catalog recovery on the new Windows Master/Media 
server using the catalog backup performed from the original 
Solaris Master.

Does anyone know if this will work or if there are any file 
conversion needed when restoring the catalog created on a 
Solaris Master to a Windows Master of the same name?

Any feedback would be appreciated.

Regards,

Daryl Katauskas 
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[Veritas-bu] General Q - Gathering Backup Requirements How-to

2006-08-14 Thread Hadrian Baron
Title: General Q - Gathering Backup Requirements How-to






I have the task of documenting RTO and RPO across our Enterprise and had some questions.


I feel like asking Departments how soon do you need restores will yield arguments and confusion.


Do most people present a few different solutions and cost and say pick one?


I somehow feel like the need to get data on How much money do we loose every minute of downtime is going a bit high level, but NECESSARY for establishing the RTO / RPOs in a realistic manner.

What do you guys/gals think? Any help for a burgeoning SAN / Backup engineer would be helpful :)


Hadrian Baron

Network Engineer

VEGAS.com 

Office: 702-992-4853

Cell:    702-553-5699



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Re: [Veritas-bu] General Q - Gathering Backup Requirements How-to

2006-08-14 Thread Karl . Rossing

Hadrian,

The May 2006 issue of storage magazine
had an article on just that topic BUT i don't think it answers you're question
directly.

From: http://storagemagazine.techtarget.com/magLogin/1,291245,sid35_gci1188735,00.html
===
The DR plan specifies only system RTOs,
not data center RTOs.

Most companies that have negotiated
RTOs have negotiated these numbers for individual systems. For example,
a common RTO is that any system in the data center must be recovered within
four hours. While this works fine for operational recoveries and system-level
outages, it doesn't work when the entire data center is lost. It's usually
assumed that a system that needs to be recovered is given access to all
system resources. For example, a large database server that needs to be
recovered is given access to all 20 tape drives in the tape library. But
what happens when 20 or 100 servers need to be recovered? They can't all
be given access to all 20 tape drives in the tape library.

This is quite possibly the most difficult
conversation that needs to occur between IT and those business units that
need a DR plan. It brings to light one of the core problems with traditional
backup and recovery: In a true disaster, it's fairly certain that the storage
department isn't going to meet its RTOs or RPOs. Unless your company is
able to live without its data for several days, the only way to have an
entire data center's data available after a disaster is if it was recovered
before the disaster happened. Traditionally, this has been accomplished
with replication. Depending on the amount of data, it can also be accomplished
with other technologies. But realistically, the working RPOs and RTOs of
most companies don't allow the recovery of an entire data center to begin
after a disaster. 
===

It's a good magazine and the subscription
is free,


[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on
08/14/2006 01:28:09 PM:

 I have the task of documenting RTO and RPO across our Enterprise and
 had some questions. 
 I feel like asking Departments how soon do you
need restores will 
 yield arguments and confusion. 
 Do most people present a few different solutions
and cost and say pick one? 
 I somehow feel like the need to get data on How
much money do we 
 loose every minute of downtime is going a bit high level, but

 NECESSARY for establishing the RTO / RPOs in a realistic manner.
 What do you guys/gals think? Any help for
a burgeoning SAN / Backup
 engineer would be helpful :) 
 Hadrian Baron 
 Network Engineer 
 VEGAS.com 
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Re: [Veritas-bu] how long does it take to convert catalog ASCII - binary?

2006-08-14 Thread Jon Bousselot
I did this in the upgrade process from 4.x to 5.x, on a scsi attached
disk and E280, it took almost 40 minutes to do about 40GB of catalog
data.  That was about 4 years of backup information, and a lot of backup
images of NAS systems, each with at least 1 million files each.  

-Jon



 Hello All

 I am looking for real life experience with NetBackup catalog
 conversion ASCII - binary (15GB) on SUN V490.
 How long will it approximately take? Any bad experiences / issues with
 such a conversion?

 Regards.

 Glen



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