[Veritas-bu] Compress NetBackup Catalog
Title: Message All NBU 5.1 MP2 Win2k3 + 2 SAN Media Servers I have a mirrored 76GB disk set where my catalog is stored. Presently I have 9GB of free space left. Reading the NBU Admin Guide on managing the catalog, I was interested in the section regarding compressing the netbackup catalog. NBU Admin P227 However, before taking this step I intend to take an offline backup and online backup of the catalog - but wanted to know if anyone else has used this feature before - any pros and cons to this. I am in the process of ordering 146GB disks, but I fear these will not arrive in time - but at least its a start. Any comments are welcome. Thanks Regards Simon Weaver3rd Line Technical SupportWindows Domain Administrator EADS Astrium Limited, B23AA IM (DCS)Anchorage Road, Portsmouth, PO3 5PU Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This email (including any attachments) may contain confidential and/or privileged information or information otherwise protected from disclosure. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately, do not copy this message or any attachments and do not use it for any purpose or disclose its content to any person, but delete this message and any attachments from your system. Astrium disclaims any and all liability if this email transmission was virus corrupted, altered or falsified. - Astrium Limited, Registered in England and Wales No. 2449259 Registered Office: Gunnels Wood Road, Stevenage, Hertfordshire, SG1 2AS, England ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Compress NetBackup Catalog
Simon,I've used this a couple of times quite successfully - you just need to be aware that selecting files to restore that are in the compressed catalog will take longer. Apart from that its a really good saving on disk space. You just need to chose a period after which the chances of having a restore request (eg. 30-60days) offset the extra time it takes to browse the image files.You might also want to have a look at catalog archiving - I've used this where data is a couple of years old and though its important to keep it the actual lead time to restore it isn't that tight.Rgds,HenryOn 10 Oct 2006, at 07:28, WEAVER, Simon wrote: All NBU 5.1 MP2 Win2k3 + 2 SAN Media Servers I have a mirrored 76GB disk set where my catalog is stored. Presently I have 9GB of free space left. Reading the NBU Admin Guide on managing the catalog, I was interested in the section regarding compressing the netbackup catalog. NBU Admin P227 However, before taking this step I intend to take an offline backup and online backup of the catalog - but wanted to know if anyone else has used this feature before - any pros and cons to this. I am in the process of ordering 146GB disks, but I fear these will not arrive in time - but at least its a start. Any comments are welcome. Thanks RegardsSimon Weaver3rd Line Technical SupportWindows Domain Administrator EADS Astrium Limited, B23AA IM (DCS)Anchorage Road, Portsmouth, PO3 5PUEmail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This email (including any attachments) may contain confidential and/or privileged information or information otherwise protected from disclosure. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately, do not copy this message or any attachments and do not use it for any purpose or disclose its content to any person, but delete this message and any attachments from your system. Astrium disclaims any and all liability if this email transmission was virus corrupted, altered or falsified. - Astrium Limited, Registered in England and Wales No. 2449259 Registered Office: Gunnels Wood Road, Stevenage, Hertfordshire, SG1 2AS, England ___Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.eduhttp://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu ** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept by MIMEsweeper for the presence of computer viruses. www.mimesweeper.com ** ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Possible to downgrade from NB 6.0MP3 to NB 5.xw ithout losing existing catalog data (i.e. backups)?
Justin SNAP! Just said something along the same lines, and was kind of hoping someone would correct me if I was wrong on this... Regards Simon Weaver 3rd Line Technical Support Windows Domain Administrator EADS Astrium Limited, B23AA IM (DCS) Anchorage Road, Portsmouth, PO3 5PU Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Justin Piszcz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 10 October 2006 09:22 To: Steve Kirkpatrick Cc: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Possible to downgrade from NB 6.0MP3 to NB 5.xwithout losing existing catalog data (i.e. backups)? On Mon, 9 Oct 2006, Steve Kirkpatrick wrote: Hello, NB 6.0 has become more of a management challenge than I was looking for. Does anyone know if it is possible to go back to a 5.x release without losing the catalog data (and all the associated backups)? This is Enterprise Server running on a SPARC Solaris 10 box if it makes a difference. Thanks, Steve. ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu No it is not, use the last catalog backup from 5.1 and perform a bprecover. Justin. ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu This email (including any attachments) may contain confidential and/or privileged information or information otherwise protected from disclosure. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately, do not copy this message or any attachments and do not use it for any purpose or disclose its content to any person, but delete this message and any attachments from your system. Astrium disclaims any and all liability if this email transmission was virus corrupted, altered or falsified. - Astrium Limited, Registered in England and Wales No. 2449259 Registered Office: Gunnels Wood Road, Stevenage, Hertfordshire, SG1 2AS, England ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Possible to downgrade from NB 6.0MP3 to NB 5.x without losing existing catalog data (i.e. backups)?
On Mon, 9 Oct 2006, Steve Kirkpatrick wrote: Hello, NB 6.0 has become more of a management challenge than I was looking for. Does anyone know if it is possible to go back to a 5.x release without losing the catalog data (and all the associated backups)? This is Enterprise Server running on a SPARC Solaris 10 box if it makes a difference. Thanks, Steve. ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu No it is not, use the last catalog backup from 5.1 and perform a bprecover. Justin. ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Possible to downgrade from NB 6.0MP3 to NB 5.x withoutlosing existing catalog data (i.e. backups)?
Steve I am happy to be corrected here, because for 1, I have not upgraded, and 2 I do not know about solaris !! Anyhow, my understanding is the NBU 6.0 database is completely different to the NBU 5.x database. My only real solution I can offer(again if I am corrected), is to : 1) Remove your current NBU 6 software 2) Install your NetBakcup 5.x 3) Configure tape drive / library, ect to the host 4) Use BPRECOVER from a catalog backup that would have been taken on the 5.x system. Unless Symantec have a magic wand up their sleeve.. Regards Simon Weaver 3rd Line Technical Support Windows Domain Administrator EADS Astrium Limited, B23AA IM (DCS) Anchorage Road, Portsmouth, PO3 5PU Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Steve Kirkpatrick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 09 October 2006 22:52 To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: [Veritas-bu] Possible to downgrade from NB 6.0MP3 to NB 5.x withoutlosing existing catalog data (i.e. backups)? Hello, NB 6.0 has become more of a management challenge than I was looking for. Does anyone know if it is possible to go back to a 5.x release without losing the catalog data (and all the associated backups)? This is Enterprise Server running on a SPARC Solaris 10 box if it makes a difference. Thanks, Steve. ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu This email (including any attachments) may contain confidential and/or privileged information or information otherwise protected from disclosure. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately, do not copy this message or any attachments and do not use it for any purpose or disclose its content to any person, but delete this message and any attachments from your system. Astrium disclaims any and all liability if this email transmission was virus corrupted, altered or falsified. - Astrium Limited, Registered in England and Wales No. 2449259 Registered Office: Gunnels Wood Road, Stevenage, Hertfordshire, SG1 2AS, England ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] NetBackup 6.0 List File?
Well... I usually either browse the support site for downloads (http://support.veritas.com/menu_ddProduct_NBUSVR.htm) then put those filenames into a text file and wget them or you can browse the Veritas FTP site (http://ftp.support.veritas.com/pub/support/products/NetBackup_Enterprise_Server/) for the filenames then do another wget. I haven't found a better way of doing that yet !HenryOn 10 Oct 2006, at 15:57, Austin Murphy wrote:This is great. Is there a similar file list for maintenance packs?AustinOn 10/9/06, Henry Kemp [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: These are the list files I used last time.# Veritas NetBackup v4.5FP6ftp://ftp.veritas.com/pub/products/NB45FP6.list# Veritas NetBackup v5.1ftp://ftp.veritas.com/pub/products/NB51.list# Veritas NetBackup v6.0ftp://ftp.veritas.com/pub/products/NB_60.listThen you can just append the filename to the base URL above to download withwget or your favorite download tool.[EMAIL PROTECTED] wgetftp://ftp.veritas.com/pub/products/NB_60_Docs.tar.gzHenryOn 7 Oct 2006, at 19:51, Jason Ellis wrote:Does anybody happen to have a copy of the NetBackup 6.0 list file for theSymantec blind FTP site? Thanks!--Cheers,Jason Ellis ** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept by MIMEsweeper for the presence of computer viruses. www.mimesweeper.com ** ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
[Veritas-bu] Has anybody used Aptare?
We're looking at possibly purchasing Aptare and are wondering if anybody has used it before. It supposedly pulls data real-time from the environment, and I'm curious as to how it accomplishes this. http://www.aptare.com/storageconsole_overview.jsp Currently we have Bocada (http://www.bocada.com/index.php), a base install and haven't really started going into it and actually customizing the application to suit our needs. Any input on Aptare would be appreciated. Thanks! Jason ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Has anybody used Aptare?
You can do a search on the site for this list. This topic has been beaten to death. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ellis, Jason Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2006 11:50 AM To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: [Veritas-bu] Has anybody used Aptare? We're looking at possibly purchasing Aptare and are wondering if anybody has used it before. It supposedly pulls data real-time from the environment, and I'm curious as to how it accomplishes this. http://www.aptare.com/storageconsole_overview.jsp Currently we have Bocada (http://www.bocada.com/index.php), a base install and haven't really started going into it and actually customizing the application to suit our needs. Any input on Aptare would be appreciated. Thanks! Jason ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu - This e-mail may contain confidential or privileged information. If you think you have received this e-mail in error, please advise the sender by reply e-mail and then delete this e-mail immediately. Thank you. Aetna ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Has anybody used Aptare?
Jason Aptare has an agent that sits on each NetBackup master server. It receives input whenever a job completes and immediately updates the Aptare database. For running jobs it runs a bpdbjobs command on a regular basis (This is tunable). I believe we have ours set to every 5 minutes. So although it is not exactly real time, you can get it as close to real time as you want. There are several other tunable processes that pull other information such as drive/disk STU stats, tape volume information and job image catalog information. It's a great product and really easy to use out of the box. If you want more information email me direct. I would be willing to talk or email about any other questions you have. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Monte -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ellis, Jason Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2006 8:50 AM To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: [Veritas-bu] Has anybody used Aptare? We're looking at possibly purchasing Aptare and are wondering if anybody has used it before. It supposedly pulls data real-time from the environment, and I'm curious as to how it accomplishes this. http://www.aptare.com/storageconsole_overview.jsp Currently we have Bocada (http://www.bocada.com/index.php), a base install and haven't really started going into it and actually customizing the application to suit our needs. Any input on Aptare would be appreciated. Thanks! Jason ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
[Veritas-bu] Trying to implement synthetic backups
Hi all, We have NetBackup 5.1 running in a Windows 2000/2003 environment. I would like to implement synthetic backups, but have some conflicting info regarding them. Will doing synthetic backups actually save tapes, or will it use the same amount of tape as a standard Full backup? I have two different opinions being offered to me, and need to sort this out quickly. As I understood it, a Synthetic would use 1 true FULL backup, and virtually create new ones based on pointers in the catalog based on the original full, and subsequent differentials. Now I am being told that the Synthetic Full will use the same number of tapes as a traditional full, just coalesced from the original full and the differentials. Can someone who has actually implemented synthetic point me in the right direction?? Larry Anderson Senior Systems Administrator Research Computing Facility Mayo Foundation (507)538-0393 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, October 09, 2006 11:00 AM To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: Veritas-bu Digest, Vol 6, Issue 12 Send Veritas-bu mailing list submissions to veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can reach the person managing the list at [EMAIL PROTECTED] When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than Re: Contents of Veritas-bu digest... Today's Topics: 1. Re: NetBackup 6.0 List File? (Henry Kemp) 2. Logging problem. (David McWilliams) 3. Re: Logging problem. (H?rlimann) 4. Re: Logging problem. (David McWilliams) 5. Re: Logging problem. (Justin Piszcz) 6. Re: Logging problem. (Justin Piszcz) 7. BMR HPUX boot client failed (chodhetz) 8. Re: Logging problem. (David McWilliams) 9. Re: BMR HPUX boot client failed (Ray Schafer) -- Message: 1 Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2006 09:39:57 +0100 From: Henry Kemp [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] NetBackup 6.0 List File? To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii These are the list files I used last time. # Veritas NetBackup v4.5FP6 ftp://ftp.veritas.com/pub/products/NB45FP6.list # Veritas NetBackup v5.1 ftp://ftp.veritas.com/pub/products/NB51.list # Veritas NetBackup v6.0 ftp://ftp.veritas.com/pub/products/NB_60.list Then you can just append the filename to the base URL above to download with wget or your favorite download tool. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wget ftp://ftp.veritas.com/pub/products/NB_60_Docs.tar.gz Henry On 7 Oct 2006, at 19:51, Jason Ellis wrote: Does anybody happen to have a copy of the NetBackup 6.0 list file for the Symantec blind FTP site? Thanks! -- Cheers, Jason Ellis ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu Henry Kemp, NetBackup Consultant lastminute.com, 39 Victoria Street, London, SW1H 0EE, United Kingdom e: [EMAIL PROTECTED], m:07779 130 784, w: http://www.lastminute.com ** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept by MIMEsweeper for the presence of computer viruses. www.mimesweeper.com ** -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/pipermail/veritas-bu/attachments/20061009/c76d100f/attachment-0001.html -- Message: 2 Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2006 09:08:25 -0400 From: David McWilliams [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Veritas-bu] Logging problem. To: NetBackup List veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Our NBU6 MP3 install is creating many huge logfiles in /usr/openv/logs. I have checked the vm.conf and bp.conf files, but nothing.I have checked the admin GUI and logging is set to minimal. Over the weekend it created over 3,500 files, in excess of 5Mb each. We were doing some troubleshooting recently, and we were sure we had turned down all logging, but I guess not. A filename example is 51216-111-175907973-061009-01.log. I would appreciate any ideas? -- Sl?inte, David Checkout the, sometimes updated, McWilliams family website @ http://davidmcw.tripod.com Get a safer, faster, better web
Re: [Veritas-bu] Has anybody used Aptare?
I am also curious about this. We are a datacenter that does hosting of client servers. In with the hosting we offer data backup for our clients. Currently I have over 75 different server/client that I backup. I was looking for two things from a reporter. 1. A report that will show TBs per month per client/policy NOM does make this report but some of the TB fields are negative ?? BU Visual does this report but it does not pull past history so I have to wait 30 days to get a 30 day report 2. A way to see open backup windows so jobs can be added/moved Do not see this option in NOM BU Visual does this but the time frame it allows in its report is too large (2hr increments) and cannot see specific windows. I just left the Aptare web page, was looking for a 30 day demo of it but guess it does not exist. What else do people use ? Dave -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ellis, Jason Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2006 10:50 AM To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: [Veritas-bu] Has anybody used Aptare? We're looking at possibly purchasing Aptare and are wondering if anybody has used it before. It supposedly pulls data real-time from the environment, and I'm curious as to how it accomplishes this. http://www.aptare.com/storageconsole_overview.jsp Currently we have Bocada (http://www.bocada.com/index.php), a base install and haven't really started going into it and actually customizing the application to suit our needs. Any input on Aptare would be appreciated. Thanks! Jason ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu This message (including any attachments) is intended for the sole use of the individual to whom it is addressed and may contain confidential information. You are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, or duplication of this message by someone other than the intended addressee or their designated agent is strictly prohibited. Information included in this message that does not relate to the specified business of Worknet shall be understood as neither given by nor endorsed by Worknet or its employees. Any cost estimates or estimated quotes included in this message are considered non-binding estimates only and must not be considered final costs unless contained within an official proposal document. ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
[Veritas-bu] Start/Stop scripts for Exchange backup
Setup: Exchange 2k with Antivirus, Netbackup 5.1mp5, ** Individual Mailbox Backups ** So, there are 400 mailboxes, and each backs up as a separate stream. I am trying to figure the the correct scripts to have on the server to stop the anti-virus before the mailbox backups, and then start the anti-virus after _all_ of the mailboxes have finished backing up. Scripts I am familiar with - but not sure which to use... bpstart_notify.bat - called when bpbkar is started - started for each stream? Does this mean it will be called 400 times? bpednd_notify.bat - called with bpbkar finishes a job - again, will it get called after each stream finishes? session_notify.cmd - called each time at least one regularly scheduled backup completes session_start_notify.cmd - called prior to any backup or archive jobs -Andrew ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Has anybody used Aptare?
Jason, We are a big user of Aptare at our shop. It has been a fantastic product and one of the only software tools I have found that we were really able to use "out of the box". It has already helped us be able to add features, solve issues, and sell our management on new products in the 9 months since we have been using. I have found that Aptare is also very willing to listen to customer input to new feature sets. When we were looking for a monitoring tool for our backup environment, I went to several newsgroups and Aptare seemed to be what everyone was talking about. Now I know why. One demo of their product and we were hooked. Good luck with your purchase. Reneé Carlisle Sr. Systems Administrator -Original Message-From: Veritas[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Ambrose, MonteSent: Tuesday, October 10, 2006 12:45 PMTo: Ellis, Jason; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.eduSubject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Has anybody used Aptare?JasonAptare has an agent that sits on each NetBackup master server. It receives input whenever a job completes and immediately updates the Aptare database. For running jobs it runs a bpdbjobs command on a regular basis (This is tunable). I believe we have ours set to every 5 minutes. So although it is not exactly real time, you can get it as close to real time as you want. There are several other tunable processes that pull other information such as drive/disk STU stats, tape volume information and job image catalog information.It's a great product and really easy to use out of the box. If you want more information email me direct. I would be willing to talk or email about any other questions you have. [EMAIL PROTECTED]Monte-Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Ellis, JasonSent: Tuesday, October 10, 2006 8:50 AMTo: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.eduSubject: [Veritas-bu] Has anybody used Aptare?We're looking at possibly purchasing Aptare and are wondering if anybody has used it before. It supposedly pulls data "real-time" from the environment, and I'm curious as to how it accomplishes this.http://www.aptare.com/storageconsole_overview.jspCurrently we have Bocada (http://www.bocada.com/index.php), a base install and haven't really started going into it and actually customizing the application to suit our needs.Any input on Aptare would be appreciated. Thanks!Jason___Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu___Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu The information contained in this message may be privileged, confidential, and protected from disclosure. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or any employee or agent responsible for delivering this message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the message and deleting it from your computer. Thank you. Paychex, Inc. ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
[Veritas-bu] Copying a tape
Title: Copying a tape Nb 5.0 mp6 Solaris 9 I have a few bad tapes that I need to transfer the data from. The tape I am going to needs to be promoted to the primary copy as I would be deleting the from tape out of netbackup. I want to make sure I am doing this right, so what command should I run to copy a tape, promote the new copied version to primary (and have it retain the original expire date so the images are protected). I know what steps are needed to delete the tape I just want to make sure I copy the original correctly. Thanks Greg This e-mail and any attachments are confidential, may contain legal, professional or other privileged information, and are intended solely for the addressee. If you are not the intended recipient, do not use the information in this e-mail in any way, delete this e-mail and notify the sender. CEG-IP1 ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Has anybody used Aptare?
It would rock for your environment. It even has built in billing reports. Paul -- -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dave Brown Sent: October 10, 2006 12:57 PM To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Has anybody used Aptare? I am also curious about this. We are a datacenter that does hosting of client servers. In with the hosting we offer data backup for our clients. Currently I have over 75 different server/client that I backup. I was looking for two things from a reporter. 1.A report that will show TBs per month per client/policy NOM does make this report but some of the TB fields are negative ?? BU Visual does this report but it does not pull past history so I haveto wait 30 days to get a 30 day report 2.A way to see open backup windows so jobs can be added/moved Do not see this option in NOM BU Visual does this but the time frame it allows in its report is toolarge (2hr increments) and cannot see specific windows. I just left the Aptare web page, was looking for a 30 day demo of it but guess it does not exist. What else do people use ? Dave -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ellis, Jason Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2006 10:50 AM To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: [Veritas-bu] Has anybody used Aptare? We're looking at possibly purchasing Aptare and are wondering if anybody has used it before. It supposedly pulls data real-time from the environment, and I'm curious as to how it accomplishes this. http://www.aptare.com/storageconsole_overview.jsp Currently we have Bocada (http://www.bocada.com/index.php), a base install and haven't really started going into it and actually customizing the application to suit our needs. Any input on Aptare would be appreciated. Thanks! Jason ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu This message (including any attachments) is intended for the sole use of the individual to whom it is addressed and may contain confidential information. You are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, or duplication of this message by someone other than the intended addressee or their designated agent is strictly prohibited. Information included in this message that does not relate to the specified business of Worknet shall be understood as neither given by nor endorsed by Worknet or its employees. Any cost estimates or estimated quotes included in this message are considered non-binding estimates only and must not be considered final costs unless contained within an official proposal document. ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu La version française suit le texte anglais. This email may contain privileged and/or confidential information, and the Bank of Canada does not waive any related rights. Any distribution, use, or copying of this email or the information it contains by other than the intended recipient is unauthorized. If you received this email in error please delete it immediately from your system and notify the sender promptly by email that you have done so. Le présent courriel peut contenir de l'information privilégiée ou confidentielle. La Banque du Canada ne renonce pas aux droits qui s'y rapportent. Toute diffusion, utilisation ou copie de ce courriel ou des renseignements qu'il contient par une personne autre que le ou les destinataires désignés est interdite Si vous recevez ce courriel par erreur, veuillez le supprimer immédiatement et envoyer sans délai à l'expéditeur un message électronique pour l'aviser que vous avez éliminé de votre ordinateur toute copie du courriel reçu. ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Has anybody used Aptare?
Two things, Both of these reports are out of the box reports with Aptare that we use all the time. Second, there is a 30 day demo...we used one when we considered Aptare. Just give them a call and let them know you want to demo the product. We checked out WysDM when we were looking, but the graphics we undecipherable and you had to look in too many locations to get what you needed. Reneé Carlisle Sr. Systems Administrator 675 Basket Road Webster, NY 14580 Jer 29:11-13 585-216-0497 (w) 585-472-2360 (c) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dave Brown Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2006 12:57 PM To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Has anybody used Aptare? I am also curious about this. We are a datacenter that does hosting of client servers. In with the hosting we offer data backup for our clients. Currently I have over 75 different server/client that I backup. I was looking for two things from a reporter. 1. A report that will show TBs per month per client/policy NOM does make this report but some of the TB fields are negative ?? BU Visual does this report but it does not pull past history so I have to wait 30 days to get a 30 day report 2. A way to see open backup windows so jobs can be added/moved Do not see this option in NOM BU Visual does this but the time frame it allows in its report is too large (2hr increments) and cannot see specific windows. I just left the Aptare web page, was looking for a 30 day demo of it but guess it does not exist. What else do people use ? Dave -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ellis, Jason Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2006 10:50 AM To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: [Veritas-bu] Has anybody used Aptare? We're looking at possibly purchasing Aptare and are wondering if anybody has used it before. It supposedly pulls data real-time from the environment, and I'm curious as to how it accomplishes this. http://www.aptare.com/storageconsole_overview.jsp Currently we have Bocada (http://www.bocada.com/index.php), a base install and haven't really started going into it and actually customizing the application to suit our needs. Any input on Aptare would be appreciated. Thanks! Jason ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu This message (including any attachments) is intended for the sole use of the individual to whom it is addressed and may contain confidential information. You are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, or duplication of this message by someone other than the intended addressee or their designated agent is strictly prohibited. Information included in this message that does not relate to the specified business of Worknet shall be understood as neither given by nor endorsed by Worknet or its employees. Any cost estimates or estimated quotes included in this message are considered non-binding estimates only and must not be considered final costs unless contained within an official proposal document. ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu - The information contained in this message may be privileged, confidential, and protected from disclosure. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or any employee or agent responsible for delivering this message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the message and deleting it from your computer. Thank you. Paychex, Inc. ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Trying to implement synthetic backups
A Synthetic Full uses the same amount of space as a real full. You can save a little bit of space during the week if you use differential incremental versus cumulative incremental, but that would depend on your change rate. I personally, would not use synthetic backups in a tape environment. If you do your incremental backups to disk and only the full's to tape, that would be ok. If you try and create a synthetic full off of a weeks worth of tapes it will be cumbersome and slow. The biggest advantage for us with Synthetic full backups is that our backups that used to run for 12 hours on our client systems are now off loaded to run on the media server as the Synthetic is being created. Reneé Carlisle Sr. Systems Administrator 675 Basket Road Webster, NY 14580 Jer 29:11-13 585-216-0497 (w) 585-472-2360 (c) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Anderson, Larry S. Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2006 12:29 PM To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: [Veritas-bu] Trying to implement synthetic backups Hi all, We have NetBackup 5.1 running in a Windows 2000/2003 environment. I would like to implement synthetic backups, but have some conflicting info regarding them. Will doing synthetic backups actually save tapes, or will it use the same amount of tape as a standard Full backup? I have two different opinions being offered to me, and need to sort this out quickly. As I understood it, a Synthetic would use 1 true FULL backup, and virtually create new ones based on pointers in the catalog based on the original full, and subsequent differentials. Now I am being told that the Synthetic Full will use the same number of tapes as a traditional full, just coalesced from the original full and the differentials. Can someone who has actually implemented synthetic point me in the right direction?? Larry Anderson Senior Systems Administrator Research Computing Facility Mayo Foundation (507)538-0393 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, October 09, 2006 11:00 AM To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: Veritas-bu Digest, Vol 6, Issue 12 Send Veritas-bu mailing list submissions to veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can reach the person managing the list at [EMAIL PROTECTED] When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than Re: Contents of Veritas-bu digest... Today's Topics: 1. Re: NetBackup 6.0 List File? (Henry Kemp) 2. Logging problem. (David McWilliams) 3. Re: Logging problem. (H?rlimann) 4. Re: Logging problem. (David McWilliams) 5. Re: Logging problem. (Justin Piszcz) 6. Re: Logging problem. (Justin Piszcz) 7. BMR HPUX boot client failed (chodhetz) 8. Re: Logging problem. (David McWilliams) 9. Re: BMR HPUX boot client failed (Ray Schafer) -- Message: 1 Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2006 09:39:57 +0100 From: Henry Kemp [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] NetBackup 6.0 List File? To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii These are the list files I used last time. # Veritas NetBackup v4.5FP6 ftp://ftp.veritas.com/pub/products/NB45FP6.list # Veritas NetBackup v5.1 ftp://ftp.veritas.com/pub/products/NB51.list # Veritas NetBackup v6.0 ftp://ftp.veritas.com/pub/products/NB_60.list Then you can just append the filename to the base URL above to download with wget or your favorite download tool. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wget ftp://ftp.veritas.com/pub/products/NB_60_Docs.tar.gz Henry On 7 Oct 2006, at 19:51, Jason Ellis wrote: Does anybody happen to have a copy of the NetBackup 6.0 list file for the Symantec blind FTP site? Thanks! -- Cheers, Jason Ellis ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu Henry Kemp, NetBackup Consultant lastminute.com, 39 Victoria Street, London, SW1H 0EE, United Kingdom e: [EMAIL PROTECTED], m:07779 130 784, w: http://www.lastminute.com ** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept by MIMEsweeper for the presence of computer viruses. www.mimesweeper.com
[Veritas-bu] Have to get rid of STK L180
Title: Have to get rid of STK L180 Im wondering what people do with their old hardware. We have an L180 (in Denver with 8 SDLT drives) and L80 (in Miami with 2 SDLT drives). We need to keep one of them to process old tapes but need to get rid of one due to space constraints. My first question - Is anyone interested in buying one of these? Second question How do other companies get rid of their old backup equipment? I have someone that will take the L80 but then I found out it still has value on the books. Just thought Id check to see if there was any interest in purchasing one of these. FYI - SUN/StorageTek has quoted us $4K+ to pack/ship/certify the L80, to get it to Denver. Cheryl King System Administrator II AIS - OpenView System and Servers Certified Intrado Inc. 1601 Dry Creek Drive Longmont, CO 80503 direct: 720.864.5162 mobile: 720.840.4786 fax: 720.494.6600 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Intrado Inc. www.intrado.com ATTENTION: The information contained in this electronic message and any attachments to this message are intended for the exclusive use of the addressee(s) and may contain confidential or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify Intrado Inc. immediately at 720.494.5800 and destroy all copies of this message and any attachments. ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
[Veritas-bu] symantec and VERITAS merger good or bad?
It's been some time since the merger and I was wondering how things may have changed for you either positive or negative. My experience has been negative. For instance. I work for the "State of Michigan" and have an extremely large environment. symantec pulled our VERITAS salesman and a very knowledgeable NetBackup support engineer and replaced them with a symantec side salesman and support engineer. While they are very symantec knowledgeable, neither one knew much about NetBackup. I think symantec does not know the complexities of the NetBackup product. It takes a long time for the end user to even know how tobegin to understand the NetBackup environment. If there is a problem with your network or DNS, then NetBackup will quickly pointy out the problem. This is just 1 example. I think the support services has also degraded but I have no metrics to support my theory. How has your experience changed? ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Have to get rid of STK L180
Title: Have to get rid of STK L180 We found a local reseller here in Melbourne, FL who is interested in our two Quantum P-3000s. Even though we're upgrading to new Quantum libraries we're not getting much of anything in trade for the old P-3000s and short of this guy who has shown interest we were considering eBay. =) -Jonathan From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of King, CherylSent: Tuesday, October 10, 2006 1:41 PMTo: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.eduSubject: [Veritas-bu] Have to get rid of STK L180 Im wondering what people do with their old hardware. We have an L180 (in Denver with 8 SDLT drives) and L80 (in Miami with 2 SDLT drives). We need to keep one of them to process old tapes but need to get rid of one due to space constraints. My first question - Is anyone interested in buying one of these? Second question How do other companies get rid of their old backup equipment? I have someone that will take the L80 but then I found out it still has value on the books. Just thought Id check to see if there was any interest in purchasing one of these. FYI - SUN/StorageTek has quoted us $4K+ to pack/ship/certify the L80, to get it to Denver. Cheryl King System Administrator II AIS - OpenView System and Servers Certified Intrado Inc. 1601 Dry Creek Drive Longmont, CO 80503 direct: 720.864.5162 mobile: 720.840.4786 fax: 720.494.6600 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Intrado Inc. www.intrado.com ATTENTION: The information contained in this electronic message and any attachments to this message are intended for the exclusive use of the addressee(s) and may contain confidential or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify Intrado Inc. immediately at 720.494.5800 and destroy all copies of this message and any attachments. ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] symantec and VERITAS merger good or bad?
Hi Bob, We also have noticed. Support is the most notable difference for us. We try hard not to call any more, which may actually have been a strategic move on their part... I heard they 'let go' of quite a few support engineers. Anyway, the support system really feels like climbing up the ladder to get the backline folks involved. Escalation just takes forever and has become quite unacceptable. Their 2 hour call-back is a joke, in our current experience. Was great before. The system broke within months of the takeover, I note. Before the merger/takeover/buyout we touted how responsive they were. Now, as I say, we rarely call unless there is absolutely no other choice. It is a Symantec corporate culture issue, from what I understand. They did it with the Norton acquisition, too. Licensing and support of their products has also suffered. Completely unresponsive is the word I hear from our security folks in regards to their desktop firewall and antivirus software as well. I should also add that for at least 9 months responding to the support emails resulted in BOUNCED emails back to me. When reporting it to them they denied any issue, but looking at the header for the emails showed that there was a BIG mixup on their end in the translation of [EMAIL PROTECTED] into [EMAIL PROTECTED] Was this even ever resolved? It was so unprofessional seeing the bounces and hearing their repsonse that I just have nothing really nice to say anymore about them. Sorry for my rant. But, you hit a BIG button there for us. Wish it were otherwise Of course, others' milage may vary. And, this is my own $.02 and does not reflect the opinion of my own employer or mgmt here at LBNL. ;) Cheers! --Chris It's been some time since the merger and I was wondering how things may have changed for you either positive or negative. My experience has been negative. For instance. I work for the State of Michigan and have an extremely large environment. symantec pulled our VERITAS salesman and a very knowledgeable NetBackup support engineer and replaced them with a symantec side salesman and support engineer. While they are very symantec knowledgeable, neither one knew much about NetBackup. I think symantec does not know the complexities of the NetBackup product. It takes a long time for the end user to even know how to begin to understand the NetBackup environment. If there is a problem with your network or DNS, then NetBackup will quickly pointy out the problem. This is just 1 example. I think the support services has also degraded but I have no metrics to support my theory. How has your experience changed? ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
[Veritas-bu] Exclude Examples for Windows
Title: Exclude Examples for Windows 1) On Windows how does one setup exclude lists for specific policies? (On UNIX one just creates text files in /usr/openv/netbackup.) 2) Are there any general Windows Excludes (Win 2000, Win 2003, Win NT) that are recommended? 3) Are Windows Media Servers more efficient backing up Windows Clients than UNIX media servers given a UNIX master server? 4) Also how does one wildcard things to exclude. Does * work or do I need *.*? For example if I wanted to exclude Temporary Internet Files for all users on a terminal server box: C:\Documents and Settings\user1\Local Settings\Temporary Internet Files C:\Documents and Settings\user2\Local Settings\Temporary Internet Files C:\Documents and Settings\user3\Local Settings\Temporary Internet Files Could I just add the following to the exclude list? C:\Documents and Settings\*\Local Settings\Temporary Internet Files to exclude Temporary Internet Files for all 3 users. Jeffrey C. Lightner Unix Systems Administrator DS Waters of America, LP 678-486-3516 ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Has anybody used Aptare?
We have been using Aptare since 2004.
We have been quite pleased with it. It give much more information
than the
Advanced Reporter product. (We will
be validating NOM as we migrage to Netbackup 6.0. So the jury is
out on that
for now.
It works in real-time by the use
of agents that run on the master server(s) that feed
data about the backups, tapes, storage
units, etc to a portal that stores data in an Oracle database. The
GUI
provides an interface to the database
for graphical display of information. Aptare supplies SQL scripts
that can
create text reports that can be e-mailed
to whomever. We use it on a daily bases to creagte reports we use
for SOX reporting.
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Carl Stehman
IT Distributed Services Team
Pepco Holdings, Inc.
202-331-6619
Pager 301-765-2703
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[Veritas-bu] Has anybody used Aptare?
We're looking at possibly purchasing Aptare and are
wondering if anybody
has used it before. It supposedly pulls data real-time from
the
environment, and I'm curious as to how it accomplishes this.
http://www.aptare.com/storageconsole_overview.jsp
Currently we have Bocada (http://www.bocada.com/index.php), a base
install and haven't really started going into it and actually
customizing the application to suit our needs.
Any input on Aptare would be appreciated. Thanks!
Jason
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Re: [Veritas-bu] Has anybody used Aptare?
Thanks for the info, I will call and get the demo -Original Message- From: Carlisle, D Renee [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2006 12:28 PM To: Dave Brown; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] Has anybody used Aptare? Two things, Both of these reports are out of the box reports with Aptare that we use all the time. Second, there is a 30 day demo...we used one when we considered Aptare. Just give them a call and let them know you want to demo the product. We checked out WysDM when we were looking, but the graphics we undecipherable and you had to look in too many locations to get what you needed. Reneé Carlisle Sr. Systems Administrator 675 Basket Road Webster, NY 14580 Jer 29:11-13 585-216-0497 (w) 585-472-2360 (c) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dave Brown Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2006 12:57 PM To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Has anybody used Aptare? I am also curious about this. We are a datacenter that does hosting of client servers. In with the hosting we offer data backup for our clients. Currently I have over 75 different server/client that I backup. I was looking for two things from a reporter. 1. A report that will show TBs per month per client/policy NOM does make this report but some of the TB fields are negative ?? BU Visual does this report but it does not pull past history so I have to wait 30 days to get a 30 day report 2. A way to see open backup windows so jobs can be added/moved Do not see this option in NOM BU Visual does this but the time frame it allows in its report is too large (2hr increments) and cannot see specific windows. I just left the Aptare web page, was looking for a 30 day demo of it but guess it does not exist. What else do people use ? Dave -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ellis, Jason Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2006 10:50 AM To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: [Veritas-bu] Has anybody used Aptare? We're looking at possibly purchasing Aptare and are wondering if anybody has used it before. It supposedly pulls data real-time from the environment, and I'm curious as to how it accomplishes this. http://www.aptare.com/storageconsole_overview.jsp Currently we have Bocada (http://www.bocada.com/index.php), a base install and haven't really started going into it and actually customizing the application to suit our needs. Any input on Aptare would be appreciated. Thanks! Jason ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu This message (including any attachments) is intended for the sole use of the individual to whom it is addressed and may contain confidential information. You are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, or duplication of this message by someone other than the intended addressee or their designated agent is strictly prohibited. Information included in this message that does not relate to the specified business of Worknet shall be understood as neither given by nor endorsed by Worknet or its employees. Any cost estimates or estimated quotes included in this message are considered non-binding estimates only and must not be considered final costs unless contained within an official proposal document. ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu - The information contained in this message may be privileged, confidential, and protected from disclosure. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or any employee or agent responsible for delivering this message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the message and deleting it from your computer. Thank you. Paychex, Inc. ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] symantec and VERITAS merger good or bad?
Bob, I would have to echo Chris Mander's thoughts as well. Their 2 hour callback is a joke. We very rarely call them, but when we do the results are always a mixed bag. Thanks, Chris -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Christopher Jay Manders Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2006 2:14 PM To: Bob Stump Cc: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] symantec and VERITAS merger good or bad? Hi Bob, We also have noticed. Support is the most notable difference for us. We try hard not to call any more, which may actually have been a strategic move on their part... I heard they 'let go' of quite a few support engineers. Anyway, the support system really feels like climbing up the ladder to get the backline folks involved. Escalation just takes forever and has become quite unacceptable. Their 2 hour call-back is a joke, in our current experience. Was great before. The system broke within months of the takeover, I note. Before the merger/takeover/buyout we touted how responsive they were. Now, as I say, we rarely call unless there is absolutely no other choice. It is a Symantec corporate culture issue, from what I understand. They did it with the Norton acquisition, too. Licensing and support of their products has also suffered. Completely unresponsive is the word I hear from our security folks in regards to their desktop firewall and antivirus software as well. I should also add that for at least 9 months responding to the support emails resulted in BOUNCED emails back to me. When reporting it to them they denied any issue, but looking at the header for the emails showed that there was a BIG mixup on their end in the translation of [EMAIL PROTECTED] into [EMAIL PROTECTED] Was this even ever resolved? It was so unprofessional seeing the bounces and hearing their repsonse that I just have nothing really nice to say anymore about them. Sorry for my rant. But, you hit a BIG button there for us. Wish it were otherwise Of course, others' milage may vary. And, this is my own $.02 and does not reflect the opinion of my own employer or mgmt here at LBNL. ;) Cheers! --Chris It's been some time since the merger and I was wondering how things may have changed for you either positive or negative. My experience has been negative. For instance. I work for the State of Michigan and have an extremely large environment. symantec pulled our VERITAS salesman and a very knowledgeable NetBackup support engineer and replaced them with a symantec side salesman and support engineer. While they are very symantec knowledgeable, neither one knew much about NetBackup. I think symantec does not know the complexities of the NetBackup product. It takes a long time for the end user to even know how to begin to understand the NetBackup environment. If there is a problem with your network or DNS, then NetBackup will quickly pointy out the problem. This is just 1 example. I think the support services has also degraded but I have no metrics to support my theory. How has your experience changed? --- - ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
[Veritas-bu] FW: Copying a tape
Title: Copying a tape Noticed I did not send this to the list Here is the command I use to copy from my VTL to Tape D:\Program Files\VERITAS\NetBackup\bin\admincmd\bpduplicate.exe -dstunit wnsnb02-hcart2-robot-tld-2 -dp NetBackup-A -id dx0005 -rl -1 -fail_on_error 0 -hoursago 144 -set_primary 1 -primary -priority 9 -number_copies 1 -L D:\Program Files\VERITAS\NetBackup\Logs\Dailyduplicate\Dup_Daily_DX0005.log -M wnsnb01 mpx Here is a brief explanation D:\Program Files\VERITAS\NetBackup\bin\admincmd\bpduplicate.exe Execute Command -dstunit wnsnb02-hcart2-robot-tld-0 Destination Unit -dp NetBackup-B Destination Pool -id dx0005 Media label of tape being copied -rl -1 Retention level -1 retains original expiration date -fail_on_error 0 Do not stop on error -set_primary 1 Make it Primary -primary Search or duplicate the primary copy -number_copies 1 Only 1 Copy -L D:\Program Files\VERITAS\NetBackup\Logs\NBduplicate\Dup-20060410134451.log Log File -M wnsnb01 Master Server -mpx Preserve Multiplexing Hope that helps Dave From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hindle, Greg Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2006 12:09 PM To: NB List Mail Subject: [Veritas-bu] Copying a tape Nb 5.0 mp6 Solaris 9 I have a few bad tapes that I need to transfer the data from. The tape I am going to needs to be promoted to the primary copy as I would be deleting the from tape out of netbackup. I want to make sure I am doing this right, so what command should I run to copy a tape, promote the new copied version to primary (and have it retain the original expire date so the images are protected). I know what steps are needed to delete the tape I just want to make sure I copy the original correctly. Thanks Greg This e-mail and any attachments are confidential, may contain legal, professional or other privileged information, and are intended solely for the addressee. If you are not the intended recipient, do not use the information in this e-mail in any way, delete this e-mail and notify the sender. CEG-IP1 This message (including any attachments) is intended for the sole use of the individual to whom it is addressed and may contain confidential information. You are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, or duplication of this message by someone other than the intended addressee or their designated agent is strictly prohibited. Information included in this message that does not relate to the specified business of Worknet shall be understood as neither given by nor endorsed by Worknet or its employees. Any cost estimates or estimated quotes included in this message are considered non-binding estimates only and must not be considered final costs unless contained within an official proposal document. ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Has anybody used Aptare?
* Dave Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2006-10-10 13:27]: Thanks for the info, I will call and get the demo One thing I will add. Storage Console (Aptare) does have a GB/Month detail, which also includes GB duplicated. We are currently working through with them to figure out exactly what that means. We have recently come across a difference of opinion about what the report _does_ show .vs what it _should_ show. It _does_ accurately show the GB backed up in a month, and all GB duped for the same client in that month, but it's only as good as the data NetBackup supplies. The main issue is with Virtual tape being used for staging. If you do NOT want that data to be counted, that has not been completely ironed out yet. Again, not a bad thing, you just need to have a good feel for what questions you _really_ want to answer. You will get a lot farther if you can do that up front. Vague questions are hard to respond to. Incidentally, you said you were using Bocada. Why are you now looking at Aptare? Is there something you need that it can't do? -- David Rock [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Trying to implement synthetic backups
* Carlisle, D Renee [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2006-10-10 13:26]: A Synthetic Full uses the same amount of space as a real full. You can save a little bit of space during the week if you use differential incremental versus cumulative incremental, but that would depend on your change rate. I personally, would not use synthetic backups in a tape environment. If you do your incremental backups to disk and only the full's to tape, that would be ok. If you try and create a synthetic full off of a weeks worth of tapes it will be cumbersome and slow. The biggest advantage for us with Synthetic full backups is that our backups that used to run for 12 hours on our client systems are now off loaded to run on the media server as the Synthetic is being created. Yeah, the benefit is saving of _time_, not tape. When the Synthetic backup is created, it's all done on the media server. The client is no longer involved and the new full will be created as fast as your media server can go, but it _will_ use a full backup's worth of tape. -- David Rock [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
[Veritas-bu] bpbrm: cannot send email to root on client xxxx
We're getting this error in our problems report for nearly every client in our environment. This is NetBackup 5.1 MP4 running on Windows 2003. I'm new to this environment so I'm not sure where this setting is configured, how to prevent this error message from appear or if I should even be concerned. Thanks! Jason ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
[Veritas-bu] problem restoring netbackup database.
Hi All,I'm running Netbackup 5.1 MP4 on Solaris 9. Due to space constraint, I archived the database catalog as outlined in the System Administrator's Guide for Unix, Vol 1.# bpcatlist -policy Unix -client all -before Jan 1 00:00:00 2006 | bpcatarc | bpcatrmThe commands succeeded without error. Now I can't restore the catalog for a particular client. Sometimes it failed with error code 24 and sometimes it failed with error code 5. bpcatlist works fine and I can see the catarc id.# bpcatlist -client host1 | bpcatresEXIT STATUS 5: the restore failed to recover the requested filesbpcatres: restore failure: the restore failed to recover the requested filesAny ideas? Thanks in advance for any helps.Dante Stay in the know. Pulse on the new Yahoo.com. Check it out. ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Has anybody used Aptare?
On 10/10/2006 11:56 AM, Dave Brown wrote: We are a datacenter that does hosting of client servers. In with the hosting we offer data backup for our clients. Currently I have over 75 different server/client that I backup. I was looking for two things from a reporter. 1.A report that will show TBs per month per client/policy This is trivial with StorageConsole. You can report by individual client or create server groups (say if you have 3 servers that are owned by one client). We've got our data going back a couple of years and the trends sure are nice! 2.A way to see open backup windows so jobs can be added/moved You can see individual policies but you can't see all of them on single page like what I think you're after. I just left the Aptare web page, was looking for a 30 day demo of it but guess it does not exist. Aptare has a *superb* demo available - you don't even need to set up your own server. If your master server can reach the internet via https, then you can install their agent software on your master and it will send the information (status information, not backup data) to their server. You can then get real-world reports from your backups without managing your own portal. Contact their sales folks - they're probably one of the best companies you'll ever deal with. If report #2 is critical to you, ask them about having that feature added to StorageConsole - they're very receptive to customer feedback (those of you who like the reporting by file system can thank me!). -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ellis, Jason Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2006 10:50 AM To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: [Veritas-bu] Has anybody used Aptare? We're looking at possibly purchasing Aptare and are wondering if anybody has used it before. It supposedly pulls data real-time from the environment, and I'm curious as to how it accomplishes this. It accomplishes this by running an agent on the master. As a job completes, the bp_exit_notify script is triggered by NetBackup which includes an Aptare entry to add the completion data to a text file. There are then daemons that run on a regular basis (you define the timeframe) that gets the data about that job completion and sends it to the portal. Currently we have Bocada (http://www.bocada.com/index.php), a base install and haven't really started going into it and actually customizing the application to suit our needs. I really disliked the Bocada software during my evaluation. It's nowhere realtime and I found that the time it took to pull the data for our environment was too painfull to use. The client software was so difficult to install that it took their tech support folks several hours and multiple reboots to install on my desktop. This is most definitely not something that I would recommend installing on an exec's desktop. Aptare's StorageConsole, however, is all web-based so all the client needs is a browser. .../Ed -- Ed Wilts, Mounds View, MN, USA mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] symantec and VERITAS merger good or bad?
On 10/10/2006 12:49 PM, Bob Stump wrote: It's been some time since the merger and I was wondering how things may have changed for you either positive or negative. My experience has been negative. For instance. I work for the State of Michigan and have an extremely large environment. symantec pulled our VERITAS salesman and a very knowledgeable NetBackup support engineer and replaced them with a symantec side salesman and support engineer. While they are very symantec knowledgeable, neither one knew much about NetBackup. I think symantec does not know the complexities of the NetBackup product. It takes a long time for the end user to even know how to begin to understand the NetBackup environment. If there is a problem with your network or DNS, then NetBackup will quickly pointy out the problem. This is just 1 example. I think the support services has also degraded but I have no metrics to support my theory. How has your experience changed? Our sales and pre-sales tech support changed. The post-sales support hasn't really impacted us much. First-line support in any major support group always tends to be a bit slow as they need to figure which customer forgot to plug the device in versus which customers knows what's going on but needs help interpreting a specific error condition. Once a call has progressed to backline, we have not had issues. I don't think the support is better or worse than before. .../Ed -- Ed Wilts, Mounds View, MN, USA mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] symantec and VERITAS merger good or bad?
On 10/10/2006 1:51 PM, Austin Murphy wrote: I have only dealt with Symantec/Veritas after the merger and my experiences haven't been great. My gripes: - Sometimes I can get decent support, but usually the tech people need to research the issue or ask someone else. That's always the case if your problem is non-trivial. When you get to the backline folks, you'll find that they're solid with a good depth of knowledge. Now we talk to them a lot as result of the upgrade. We have contact information that I hope for your sake you'll never need. - 6.0 is scary. How can they release backup software that may or may not schedule your backups depending on its mood? This was certainly an anomaly. Previous releases have not been this bad. I can tell you that 6.0 is getting better - MP3++ still has a handful of critical issues but patches for those have been applied to the MP4 code base. We're expecting to install a pre-release of MP4 soon (I could tell you when but then I'd have to kill you :-)). I expect you'll be able to get MP4 in the not too distant future. We heard rumors on this list of a GA release date of October 15 for MP4. I can tell that in all likelihood, that date is not realistic. Trust me when I say that MP4 will be a *lot* better than MP3. - Our account rep is unresponsive too. You would think they would at least be motivated to help you give them your money. No, it takes hours to get any kind of information out of them and they don't even know how it is licensed. Go to a reseller - you really don't need to deal direclty with Symantec. In many cases, you'll get far better sales support from a reseller. Try a company such as Datalink - great sales reps and people who actually know what they're talking about. We've had cases where getting a license directly from Symantec has taken many *months* - purchasing new licenses from Datalink last week got us the keys in 2 days. - Licensing is convoluted and undocumented (in my searches). Yup. No argument there. .../Ed -- Ed Wilts, Mounds View, MN, USA mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
[Veritas-bu] Version 6 catalog. Bigger?
I'm running a system with NBU6.0 MP3. After just a couple months of operation, the catalog appears to be growing quite a bit faster than the old 5.1 catalog did. Is this expected? Also, I'm doing a lot of Netapp NDMP backups (both direct and 3-way, I'm not doing any remote at the moment). Even with no data moving through the master server, I'm completely blitzing the catalog disk with 3 or 4 simultaneous full backups running. I'm sure that many of these volumes have way too many tiny files, but I don't recall this problem with 5.x. I can get 30MB/s+ with LTO3 on small numbers of backups, but I appear to really throttle everything down if I try to run 6 or 7. I'll look into seeing how I can speed up the local catalog storage, but I'm wondering if anyone has seen similar things when transitioning? Thanks! -- Darren Dunham [EMAIL PROTECTED] Senior Technical Consultant TAOShttp://www.taos.com/ Got some Dr Pepper? San Francisco, CA bay area This line left intentionally blank to confuse you. ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
[Veritas-bu] Day light savings behavior
Hi, We have been using Netbackup for over 3 years (now we are at NB5.1 Enterprise Server MP5). At every daylight savings time change, our Netbackup scheduler goes haywire and schedules FULL backups for most of our backup jobs. This happens both in the Spring and the Fall. We have tried (per Veritas' OK): 1) Shut off NB services at least 1-2 hours before and after time change. 2) Deactivate all NB policies at least 1-2 hours before and after time change. These suggestions do not work. Does anyone else have this problem, and is there a work around that works? Thanks, John Yu, Boston University, OIT Operations ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
[Veritas-bu] Metadata impact on performance?
Hi all, Currently I have a dual 5.1 MP5 master server site running on AIX 5.2. We would like to consolidate this into a single Master Server utilizing the WAN link for replication and converting the other Master Server into a fail over server through clustering. The unknown for me is that the metadata that flows back to the soon-to-be standby master server, will now need to flow over the WAN link to the active Master Server. VRAdvisor indicates that synchronous replication connection will require around 16 Mbps between the 2 servers for image updates and the WAN link appears to average around 4 Mbps. I would appreciate it if anyone has any experience or references on this I can review before we consider starting. I would assume that bottlenecks with metadata will impact backup performance. Regards DISCLAIMER:This message may contain information which is confidential, private or privileged in nature. If you are not the intended recipient, you may not peruse, use, disseminate, distribute or copy this message or file which is attached to this message. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately by e-mail, facsimile or telephone and thereafter return and/or destroy the original message.Any views of this communication are those of the sender except where the sender specifically states them to be those of Faritec (Holdings) Limited (Faritec) and/or any of its subsidiaries including (but not limited to) Faritec Enterprise Solutions (Proprietary) Limited, Faritec Strategic IT Services (Proprietary) Limited, Faritec Contracting (Proprietary) Limited, Ebis and/or any of its subsidiaries.Please note that the recipient must scan this e-mail and any attached files for viruses and the like. While we do everything possible to protect information from viruses, Faritec accepts no liability of whatever nature for any loss, liability, damage or expense resulting directly or indirectly from the access and/or downloading of any files which are attached to this e-mail message. ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Start/Stop scripts for Exchange backup
Andrew Another alternative is to use the Schedule Service on your OS to stop the AV before the Backups kick in and re-start the services after a given set time. For example if you find your backups usually finish in around 12 hours set the service to start after this time. Just a thought... Regards Simon Weaver 3rd Line Technical Support Windows Domain Administrator EADS Astrium Limited, B23AA IM (DCS) Anchorage Road, Portsmouth, PO3 5PU Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Andrew Stueve [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 10 October 2006 18:04 To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: [Veritas-bu] Start/Stop scripts for Exchange backup Setup: Exchange 2k with Antivirus, Netbackup 5.1mp5, ** Individual Mailbox Backups ** So, there are 400 mailboxes, and each backs up as a separate stream. I am trying to figure the the correct scripts to have on the server to stop the anti-virus before the mailbox backups, and then start the anti-virus after _all_ of the mailboxes have finished backing up. Scripts I am familiar with - but not sure which to use... bpstart_notify.bat - called when bpbkar is started - started for each stream? Does this mean it will be called 400 times? bpednd_notify.bat - called with bpbkar finishes a job - again, will it get called after each stream finishes? session_notify.cmd - called each time at least one regularly scheduled backup completes session_start_notify.cmd - called prior to any backup or archive jobs -Andrew ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu This email (including any attachments) may contain confidential and/or privileged information or information otherwise protected from disclosure. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately, do not copy this message or any attachments and do not use it for any purpose or disclose its content to any person, but delete this message and any attachments from your system. Astrium disclaims any and all liability if this email transmission was virus corrupted, altered or falsified. - Astrium Limited, Registered in England and Wales No. 2449259 Registered Office: Gunnels Wood Road, Stevenage, Hertfordshire, SG1 2AS, England ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] symantec and VERITAS merger good or bad?
Ed I for one would be interested to hear your comments on MP4 if you actually find the need to apply it. There are features in 6.0 I like, but not at the cost of running risks to the Business, where their backups are now extremely solid. As for merger - My experience has shown that sometimes I have had to show them what I have done to fix a problem - However if you end up talking to a real expert that knows NBU inside out, you get reassurance of dealing with someone with good hands-on experience. Horses for courses really. Regards Simon Weaver 3rd Line Technical Support Windows Domain Administrator EADS Astrium Limited, B23AA IM (DCS) Anchorage Road, Portsmouth, PO3 5PU Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Ed Wilts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 11 October 2006 01:24 To: Austin Murphy Cc: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu; Bob Stump Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] symantec and VERITAS merger good or bad? On 10/10/2006 1:51 PM, Austin Murphy wrote: I have only dealt with Symantec/Veritas after the merger and my experiences haven't been great. My gripes: - Sometimes I can get decent support, but usually the tech people need to research the issue or ask someone else. That's always the case if your problem is non-trivial. When you get to the backline folks, you'll find that they're solid with a good depth of knowledge. Now we talk to them a lot as result of the upgrade. We have contact information that I hope for your sake you'll never need. - 6.0 is scary. How can they release backup software that may or may not schedule your backups depending on its mood? This was certainly an anomaly. Previous releases have not been this bad. I can tell you that 6.0 is getting better - MP3++ still has a handful of critical issues but patches for those have been applied to the MP4 code base. We're expecting to install a pre-release of MP4 soon (I could tell you when but then I'd have to kill you :-)). I expect you'll be able to get MP4 in the not too distant future. We heard rumors on this list of a GA release date of October 15 for MP4. I can tell that in all likelihood, that date is not realistic. Trust me when I say that MP4 will be a *lot* better than MP3. - Our account rep is unresponsive too. You would think they would at least be motivated to help you give them your money. No, it takes hours to get any kind of information out of them and they don't even know how it is licensed. Go to a reseller - you really don't need to deal direclty with Symantec. In many cases, you'll get far better sales support from a reseller. Try a company such as Datalink - great sales reps and people who actually know what they're talking about. We've had cases where getting a license directly from Symantec has taken many *months* - purchasing new licenses from Datalink last week got us the keys in 2 days. - Licensing is convoluted and undocumented (in my searches). Yup. No argument there. .../Ed -- Ed Wilts, Mounds View, MN, USA mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu This email (including any attachments) may contain confidential and/or privileged information or information otherwise protected from disclosure. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately, do not copy this message or any attachments and do not use it for any purpose or disclose its content to any person, but delete this message and any attachments from your system. Astrium disclaims any and all liability if this email transmission was virus corrupted, altered or falsified. - Astrium Limited, Registered in England and Wales No. 2449259 Registered Office: Gunnels Wood Road, Stevenage, Hertfordshire, SG1 2AS, England ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Have to get rid of STK L180
Title: Message Cherly Due to the nature of the business, its placed in a container and destroyed - although any spares are taken out, so we are left with a bare bones chassis. Another option is eBay.com !? If you want to make something on it, maybe someone will place a bid :-) Regards Simon Weaver3rd Line Technical SupportWindows Domain Administrator EADS Astrium Limited, B23AA IM (DCS)Anchorage Road, Portsmouth, PO3 5PU Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message-From: King, Cheryl [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 10 October 2006 18:41To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.eduSubject: [Veritas-bu] Have to get rid of STK L180 I'm wondering what people do with their old hardware. We have an L180 (in Denver with 8 SDLT drives) and L80 (in Miami with 2 SDLT drives). We need to keep one of them to process old tapes but need to get rid of one due to space constraints. My first question - Is anyone interested in buying one of these? Second question - How do other companies get rid of their old backup equipment? I have someone that will take the L80 but then I found out it still has value on the books. Just thought I'd check to see if there was any interest in purchasing one of these. FYI - SUN/StorageTek has quoted us $4K+ to pack/ship/certify the L80, to get it to Denver. Cheryl King System Administrator II AIS - OpenView System and Servers Certified Intrado Inc. 1601 Dry Creek Drive Longmont, CO 80503 direct: 720.864.5162 mobile: 720.840.4786 fax: 720.494.6600 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Intrado Inc. www.intrado.com ATTENTION: The information contained in this electronic message and any attachments to this message are intended for the exclusive use of the addressee(s) and may contain confidential or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify Intrado Inc. immediately at 720.494.5800 and destroy all copies of this message and any attachments. This email (including any attachments) may contain confidential and/or privileged information or information otherwise protected from disclosure. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately, do not copy this message or any attachments and do not use it for any purpose or disclose its content to any person, but delete this message and any attachments from your system. Astrium disclaims any and all liability if this email transmission was virus corrupted, altered or falsified. - Astrium Limited, Registered in England and Wales No. 2449259 Registered Office: Gunnels Wood Road, Stevenage, Hertfordshire, SG1 2AS, England ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
