Re: [Veritas-bu] Recognise Media from NBU

2006-11-09 Thread Clooney, David
Title: Message



Simon

When you say data, what exactly do you mean 
?

Dave


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Media from NBU

Hi 
all
Quick 
question - NBU 5.1 MP2 Win2k3 Server

One of 
our libraries has over 40 tapes taken out each and every month to be stored in a 
safe.

Trouble 
is, it is a time consuming process to label each tape (not that I mind too 
much!).

Anyhow, 
is there an EASY method or way to tell What data is on a tape via a command line 
without the need to load the single tape into the 
library?

I could 
go through tapes one by one, but is there an easier method I am 
overlooking?
Thank 
you

Regards
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Domain Administrator 
EADS Astrium 
Limited, B23AA IM (DCS)Anchorage Road, Portsmouth, PO3 
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[Veritas-bu] Help with /etc/symlinks.translations

2006-11-09 Thread Matt Judge
Hi all,

I am trying to map NT usernames to NIS usernames and home directories.

I have modified the /etc/usermap.cfg for the accounts whose names 
differ, but I cannot find any documentation on how to use the 
/etc/symlinks.translations file for mapping the NIS home directory to a 
local path.

Any help appreciated,

TIA,

Matt.
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Re: [Veritas-bu] VNB 5.1MP5 : DSSU verses DSU

2006-11-09 Thread Clooney, David



Ray

DSSU - stands for Disk staging Storage Unit , from the 
below I would think this is what you are after, whereas you write to the storage 
unit and then duplicate off to tape at a later stage.
DSU - stands for Disk Storage 
Unit.

For DSSU's you can set up schedules to write off to 
tape and to which pool and so on , DSU you don't have that 
functionality.

Regards

David

Try a couple tests by adding new storage units and and 
choose disk staging as the type .




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(2) We want to backup to DSSU/DSU, then copy to 
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Re: [Veritas-bu] Recognise Media from NBU

2006-11-09 Thread WEAVER, Simon
Title: Message



Dave
In respect of knowing what client backup was on the monthly tape. 
For example if SERVER1 was backed up with a 1 year retention it is classed as a 
monthly backup. That tape is unloaded and placed into a safe / vault. If 5 
months down the line they need to restore data for the client, they wanted to 
quickly find out what tape was used for restoring any data for the server1 
backup.

Anyhow, I think the easiest method here is going to just rely on 
activity monitor and if a tape is needed not in the Library, then they can just 
go ahead and load it :-)

Regards
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  -Original Message-From: Clooney, David 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 09 November 2006 
  10:55To: WEAVER, Simon; 
  Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.eduSubject: RE: [Veritas-bu] 
  Recognise Media from NBU
  Simon
  
  When you say data, what exactly do you mean 
  ?
  
  Dave
  
  
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  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of WEAVER, 
  SimonSent: 08 November 2006 16:52To: 
  Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.eduSubject: [Veritas-bu] Recognise 
  Media from NBU
  
  Hi 
  all
  Quick 
  question - NBU 5.1 MP2 Win2k3 Server
  
  One of 
  our libraries has over 40 tapes taken out each and every month to be stored in 
  a safe.
  
  Trouble 
  is, it is a time consuming process to label each tape (not that I mind too 
  much!).
  
  Anyhow, 
  is there an EASY method or way to tell What data is on a tape via a command 
  line without the need to load the single tape into the 
  library?
  
  I could 
  go through tapes one by one, but is there an easier method I am 
  overlooking?
  Thank 
  you
  
  Regards
  Simon 
  Weaver3rd Line Technical SupportWindows Domain 
  Administrator 
  EADS Astrium 
  Limited, B23AA IM (DCS)Anchorage Road, Portsmouth, PO3 
  5PU
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[Veritas-bu] SQL Backups Status 2

2006-11-09 Thread WEAVER, Simon
Title: Message



Hi 
all
Win2k3 
NBU 5.1 MP2
Need to 
implement SQL Backups online. got a license key, and applied 
that.

I am 
reading through the manual, and starting to think this looks harder than it 
shoudl be!

I have an 
SMS Server (systems management) that runs SQL 2000 and I need to do an online 
backup.

Anyone 
experience in using SQL_Backups and offer some hints and 
tips?

Tried a 
test and got a status 2, so I know I am not off to a good 
start!

Thanks

Regards
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[Veritas-bu] Ingres backup...

2006-11-09 Thread Hampus Lind








Hi all,



If a want to start a script thats backing up Ingres
on a client. How do I best start that script from the master with a policy? I dont
want to start it from cron from the client..



Thanks and regards,



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Re: [Veritas-bu] SQL Backups Status 2

2006-11-09 Thread Martin, Jonathan \(Contractor\)
Title: Message



Use SQL Server's built in functionality to write backups to 
disk and then pickup those files with file level backups. Unless you have 
a LARGE and UNWIELDY SQL Database that's your best option (and it saves you the 
SQL Database Client to boot!) Ok, that's just the way we do it here. 
But we do use it for everything from Voicemail to SMS, Antivirus to Reports and 
it does the job even for our largest SQL Databases. (200GB.) 
Everything larger than that is in Oracle.

-Jonathan


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Status 2

Hi 
all
Win2k3 
NBU 5.1 MP2
Need to 
implement SQL Backups online. got a license key, and applied 
that.

I am 
reading through the manual, and starting to think this looks harder than it 
shoudl be!

I have an 
SMS Server (systems management) that runs SQL 2000 and I need to do an online 
backup.

Anyone 
experience in using SQL_Backups and offer some hints and 
tips?

Tried a 
test and got a status 2, so I know I am not off to a good 
start!

Thanks

Regards
Simon Weaver3rd Line Technical SupportWindows 
Domain Administrator 
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Re: [Veritas-bu] Recognise Media from NBU

2006-11-09 Thread Henry Kemp
If you want to work out which tapes are required for a restore either:-- through the admin GUi in the Backup, Archive  Recovery pane select the files to be restored as usual and before clicking on the "Restore" button and it tells you which tapes you need-- if you prefer the command line then you can use "bpimagelist -media -U -client clientname -hoursago NN" if its the most recent backup or use the "-e" and "-s" flags to specify start/end backup windowIf you want to know what is on each tape then try "bpimmedia media_number" that gives you a report of all the backup fragments and their associated images on the tape. I wouldn't even think about writing which backup images on the individual tapes - if you're worried about importing swathes of tapes then it could be worth saving a copy of "bpimmedia -m mediaid_number" whenever you remove a tape somewhere safe so you've got a redundant version of what's on each tape... You can then go back through these reports to which out which tapes an image spans.Rgds,HenryOn 9 Nov 2006, at 11:34, WEAVER, Simon wrote: Dave In respect of knowing what client backup was on the monthly tape. For example if SERVER1 was backed up with a 1 year retention it is classed as a monthly backup. That tape is unloaded and placed into a safe / vault. If 5 months down the line they need to restore data for the client, they wanted to quickly find out what tape was used for restoring any data for the server1 backup.   Anyhow, I think the easiest method here is going to just rely on activity monitor and if a tape is needed not in the Library, then they can just go ahead and load it :-)  RegardsSimon Weaver3rd Line Technical SupportWindows Domain Administrator EADS Astrium Limited, B23AA IM (DCS)Anchorage Road, Portsmouth, PO3 5PUEmail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message-From: Clooney, David   [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 09 November 2006   10:55To: WEAVER, Simon;   Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.eduSubject: RE: [Veritas-bu]   Recognise Media from NBU  Simon     When you say data, what exactly do you mean   ?     Dave  From:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]   [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of WEAVER,   SimonSent: 08 November 2006 16:52To:   Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.eduSubject: [Veritas-bu] Recognise   Media from NBUHi   all  Quick   question - NBU 5.1 MP2 Win2k3 Server     One of   our libraries has over 40 tapes taken out each and every month to be stored in   a safe.     Trouble   is, it is a time consuming process to label each tape (not that I mind too   much!).     Anyhow,   is there an EASY method or way to tell What data is on a tape via a command   line without the need to load the single tape into the   library?     I could   go through tapes one by one, but is there an easier method I am   overlooking?  Thank   you   RegardsSimon   Weaver3rd Line Technical SupportWindows Domain   Administrator EADS Astrium   Limited, B23AA IM (DCS)Anchorage Road, Portsmouth, PO3   5PUEmail:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]     This email (including any attachments) may contain confidential and/or privileged information or information otherwise protected from disclosure. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately, do not copy this message or any attachments and do not use it for any purpose or disclose its content to any person, but delete this message and any attachments from your system. Astrium disclaims any and all liability if this email transmission was virus corrupted, altered or falsified.-Astrium Limited, Registered in England and Wales No. 2449259Registered Office: Gunnels Wood Road, Stevenage, Hertfordshire, SG1 2AS, England  Notice to   recipient:The information in this internet e-mail and any attachments is   confidential and may be privileged. It is intended solely for the addressee.   If you are not the intended addressee please notify the sender immediately by   telephone. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying,   distribution or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it, is   prohibited and may be unlawful.When addressed to   external clients any opinions or advice contained in this internet e-mail are   subject to the terms and conditions expressed in any applicable governing   terms of business or client engagement letter issued by the pertinent Bank of   America group entity.If this email originates from the U.K. please   note that Bank of America, N.A., London Branch and Banc of America Securities   Limited are authorised and regulated by the Financial Services   Authority.   This email (including any attachments) may contain confidential and/or privileged information or information otherwise protected from disclosure. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately, do not copy this message or any 

[Veritas-bu] Backup of Mysql...

2006-11-09 Thread Hampus Lind








Hi all,



How do you all backup your mysql databases? Is there
any database agent?



Thanks



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Re: [Veritas-bu] Ingres backup...

2006-11-09 Thread ida3248b
Hi Hampus

I would use bpstart_notify to run the script that's backing up ingress

Regards
Michael

On Thu, 9 Nov 2006 14:14:10 +0100, Hampus Lind wrote
 Hi all,
  
 If a want to start a script that’s backing up Ingres on a client. How do I 
best start that script from the master with a policy? I don’t want to start 
it from cron from the client..
  
 Thanks and regards,
  
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Re: [Veritas-bu] Backup of Mysql...

2006-11-09 Thread ida3248b
Hi Hampus

I think there is a script called mysqlhotcopy

There wasn't any database agent when I checked last, but that is some time 
ago.

Regards
Michael

On Thu, 9 Nov 2006 14:21:13 +0100, Hampus Lind wrote
 Hi all,
  
 How do you all backup your mysql databases? Is there any database agent?
  
 Thanks…
  
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Re: [Veritas-bu] SQL Backups Status 2

2006-11-09 Thread ida3248b
Hi Simon

Make the dbbackup and dbclient directories under Netbackup/logs and raise 
verbose to 5, this usually gives a pretty indication of what problem is.

Regards
Michael

On Thu, 9 Nov 2006 12:04:59 - , WEAVER, Simon wrote
 Hi all
 Win2k3 NBU 5.1 MP2
 Need to implement SQL Backups online. got a license key, and applied that.
  
 I am reading through the manual, and starting to think this looks harder 
than it shoudl be!
  
 I have an SMS Server (systems management) that runs SQL 2000 and I need to 
do an online backup.
  
 Anyone experience in using SQL_Backups and offer some hints and tips?
  
 Tried a test and got a status 2, so I know I am not off to a good start!
  
 Thanks
  
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Re: [Veritas-bu] Recognise Media from NBU

2006-11-09 Thread WEAVER, Simon
Title: Message



GCheers Henry
I 
have told them to use Activity Monitor and if a tape is needed, verify with the 
"Media" gui if it is in the robot. If not, find the tape it wants and chuck it 
in :-)


Regards
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Domain Administrator 
EADS Astrium 
Limited, B23AA IM (DCS)Anchorage Road, Portsmouth, PO3 
5PU
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  -Original Message-From: Henry Kemp 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 09 November 2006 
  13:02To: Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.eduSubject: Re: 
  [Veritas-bu] Recognise Media from NBUIf you want to work 
  out which tapes are required for a restore either:
  
  -- through the admin GUi in the Backup, Archive  Recovery pane 
  select the files to be restored as usual and before clicking on the "Restore" 
  button and it tells you which tapes you need
  -- if you prefer the command line then you 
  can use "bpimagelist -media -U -client clientname -hoursago NN" if its 
  the most recent backup or use the "-e" and "-s" flags to specify start/end 
  backup window
  
  If you want to know what is on each tape 
  then try "bpimmedia media_number" that gives you a report of all the 
  backup fragments and their associated images on the tape. I wouldn't even 
  think about writing which backup images on the individual tapes - if you're 
  worried about importing swathes of tapes then it could be worth saving a copy 
  of "bpimmedia -m mediaid_number" whenever you remove a tape somewhere 
  safe so you've got a redundant version of what's on each tape... You can then 
  go back through these reports to which out which tapes an image 
  spans.
  
  Rgds,
  
  Henry
  
  
  
  On 9 Nov 2006, at 11:34, WEAVER, Simon wrote:
  
Dave
In respect of knowing what client backup was on the monthly 
tape. For example if SERVER1 was backed up with a 1 year retention it is 
classed as a monthly backup. That tape is unloaded and placed into a safe / 
vault. If 5 months down the line they need to restore data for the client, 
they wanted to quickly find out what tape was used for restoring any data 
for the server1 backup.

Anyhow, I think the easiest method here is going to just rely 
on activity monitor and if a tape is needed not in the Library, then they 
can just go ahead and load it :-)

Regards
Simon 
Weaver3rd Line Technical SupportWindows Domain 
Administrator 
EADS Astrium 
Limited, B23AA IM (DCS)Anchorage Road, Portsmouth, PO3 
5PU
Email: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

  
  -Original Message-From: Clooney, 
  David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
  Sent: 09 November 2006 10:55To: WEAVER, Simon; Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.eduSubject: 
  RE: [Veritas-bu] Recognise Media from NBU
  Simon
  
  When you say data, what exactly do you mean 
  ?
  
  Dave
  
  
  From: 
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  On Behalf Of WEAVER, SimonSent: 08 November 2006 
  16:52To: Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.eduSubject: 
  [Veritas-bu] Recognise Media from NBU
  
  Hi 
  all
  Quick question - NBU 5.1 MP2 Win2k3 
  Server
  
  One 
  of our libraries has over 40 tapes taken out each and every month to be 
  stored in a safe.
  
  Trouble is, it is a time consuming process to 
  label each tape (not that I mind too much!).
  
  Anyhow, is there an EASY method or way to tell 
  What data is on a tape via a command line without the need to load the 
  single tape into the library?
  
  I 
  could go through tapes one by one, but is there an easier method I am 
  overlooking?
  Thank you
  
  Regards
  Simon 
  Weaver3rd Line Technical SupportWindows Domain 
  Administrator 
  EADS Astrium 
  Limited, B23AA IM (DCS)Anchorage Road, Portsmouth, PO3 
  5PU
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Re: [Veritas-bu] SQL Backups Status 2

2006-11-09 Thread WEAVER, Simon

Done that - its telling me it cannot see the SQL Server, even though
permissions are applied.

Account all looks fine from what I can see. NT Authentication too !

Regards

Simon Weaver
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Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] SQL Backups Status 2


Hi Simon

Make the dbbackup and dbclient directories under Netbackup/logs and raise
verbose to 5, this usually gives a pretty indication of what problem is.

Regards
Michael

On Thu, 9 Nov 2006 12:04:59 - , WEAVER, Simon wrote
 Hi all
 Win2k3 NBU 5.1 MP2
 Need to implement SQL Backups online. got a license key, and applied
 that.
  
 I am reading through the manual, and starting to think this looks
 harder
than it shoudl be!
  
 I have an SMS Server (systems management) that runs SQL 2000 and I
 need to
do an online backup.
  
 Anyone experience in using SQL_Backups and offer some hints and tips?
  
 Tried a test and got a status 2, so I know I am not off to a good
 start!
  
 Thanks
  
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[Veritas-bu] bpbkar null windows file

2006-11-09 Thread Dave Markham
Sorry for the strange topic. im trying to run a bpbkar32 -nocont
ALL_LOCAL_DRIVES 1 null 2 null (or even c: instead of
all_local_drives) on a windwos 2000  box with netbackup 4.5 client.

Its very strange but it starts to create a file called 'null' which
grows so i have to kil the process off.

Im following technote :-

http://support.veritas.com/docs/242918

and doing exactly what it says.

Any ideas?

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Re: [Veritas-bu] SQL Backups Status 2

2006-11-09 Thread WEAVER, Simon
Title: Message



Jonathan
We do it here, but for the record, this failed for MONTHS!! so, 
that is not my best option, but I intend to have a DB Backup Plan as well as the 
online agent.

I 
dont normally give up, so will keep trying!! 


Regards
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Domain Administrator 
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Limited, B23AA IM (DCS)Anchorage Road, Portsmouth, PO3 
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  -Original Message-From: Martin, Jonathan 
  (Contractor) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 09 November 2006 
  13:13To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.eduSubject: Re: 
  [Veritas-bu] SQL Backups Status 2
  Use SQL Server's built in functionality to write backups 
  to disk and then pickup those files with file level backups. Unless you 
  have a LARGE and UNWIELDY SQL Database that's your best option (and it saves 
  you the SQL Database Client to boot!) Ok, that's just the way we do it 
  here. But we do use it for everything from Voicemail to SMS, Antivirus 
  to Reports and it does the job even for our largest SQL Databases. 
  (200GB.) Everything larger than that is in 
  Oracle.
  
  -Jonathan
  
  
  From: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of WEAVER, 
  SimonSent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 7:05 AMTo: 
  veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.eduSubject: [Veritas-bu] SQL Backups 
  Status 2
  
  Hi 
  all
  Win2k3 
  NBU 5.1 MP2
  Need to 
  implement SQL Backups online. got a license key, and applied 
  that.
  
  I am 
  reading through the manual, and starting to think this looks harder than it 
  shoudl be!
  
  I have 
  an SMS Server (systems management) that runs SQL 2000 and I need to do an 
  online backup.
  
  Anyone 
  experience in using SQL_Backups and offer some hints and 
  tips?
  
  Tried a 
  test and got a status 2, so I know I am not off to a good 
  start!
  
  Thanks
  
  Regards
  Simon 
  Weaver3rd Line Technical SupportWindows Domain 
  Administrator 
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  Limited, B23AA IM (DCS)Anchorage Road, Portsmouth, PO3 
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Re: [Veritas-bu] RES: bpbkart on unix

2006-11-09 Thread Dave Markham
Thanks ill try the required interface should it be /dev/bge1 or just bge1 ?

Thanks

Clooney, David wrote:
 Dave

 Are you sure your routing is correct, sounds a bit odd that by setting an 
 interface you are not using performance improves.

 If need be add an entry to the clients bp.conf  REQUIRED_INTERFACE = 
 $interface

 Regards

 /Dave

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 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dave Markham
 Sent: 07 November 2006 15:38
 To: Carlos Alberto Lima dos santos
 Cc: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
 Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] RES: bpbkart on unix

 Cheers.

 Seems to only take about 5 mins to do the whole system doing that which is 
 good.

 I have done ftp's today and the speeds are ok.

 I also set the bge0 interface to 100 full even though im using bge1 
 interface. I have set the machine up in a new policy and ran a backup and 
 that has performed ok too ( around 11mbps ).

 I haven't changed anything other than setting bge0 to 100 full so its very 
 odd how things are working now. Im going to let it run over night and see 
 what happens.

 Thanks all

 Carlos Alberto Lima dos santos wrote:
   
 Use this command to test disk performance on Unix.
 /usr/openv/netbackup/bin/bpbkar -nocont DIRECTORY  /dev/null
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 *De:* [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 *Clooney, David
 *Enviada em:* terça-feira, 7 de novembro de 2006 09:55
 *Para:* Edson Noboru Yamada; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 *Assunto:* Re: [Veritas-bu] bpbkart on unix

 Dave
 Look in the performance tuning guide to test bpbkar to dev null
 Dave

 
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 *Edson Noboru Yamada
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 *Subject:* Re: [Veritas-bu] bpbkart on unix


 Dave

 If you can ftp/scp a file from one server to another with a normal
 throughtput, certainly
 it´s not a network issue.

 Have you tested bpbkar to /dev/null on the client?

 How the client CPU behaves when you start a backup?

 tia

 On 11/7/06, *Dave Markham* [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Guys checked the switch and all set to 100 full autoneg off.

 Will have to look at the card next i think.


 WEAVER, Simon wrote:
  Dave
  Anything on the switch that needs to be configured at all ?
 
  Regards
 
  Simon Weaver
  3rd Line Technical Support
  Windows Domain Administrator
 
  EADS Astrium Limited, B23AA IM (DCS)
  Anchorage Road, Portsmouth, PO3 5PU
 
  Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Dave Markham [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: 07 November 2006 10:27
  To: Edson Noboru Yamada
  Cc: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
 mailto:veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
  Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] bpbkart on unix
 
 
  Getting 128kb from one client over a 100mbit network
 connected to the backup
  server which is gig ethernet and attached to L700 by fibre
 using LTO2
  drives.
 
  When ever had this before its always just been duplex and
 autoneg settings
  but this time that hasnt fixed things
 
  Cheers
 
  Edson Noboru Yamada wrote:
 
  You can use the unix time command to measure how long a
 bpbkar to
  /dev/null takes (google bpbkar /dev/null and you should see
 the exact
  syntax).
 
  What do you mean by slow? How many MB/s are you getting?
 
  edson
 
 
  On 11/6/06, *Dave Markham*  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Anyone point me in the direction of a doc or technote on
 how to
  benchmark the bpbkar performance on a unix ( solaris )
 client? I cant
  find anything. Only the windows one.
 
  Im having backup speed problems and want to rule out NBU.
 Strange
  thing
  is if i set the network to 100 mb , full duplex, autoneg
 off and scp a
  filre in boith 

Re: [Veritas-bu] Recognise Media from NBU

2006-11-09 Thread Weber, Philip
We take tapes out regularly, using a script that checks which tapes
aren't going to expire until a certain month.  When the script ejects
these, it changes the volume group for the tape to be the month name.
The tape then goes in the box similarly labelled with the month name.

When a restore requests a tape that is out of the library, the device
monitor (vmoprcmd -d pr) will show what volume group is allocated to it,
and hence which box it is in, so it can easily be found.

Of course this is still dependent on people putting the tapes in the
right boxes, and I've had problems with that :-) - it's great fun going
through all the boxes comparing the tapes with where NetBackup thinks
they are!

hope this helps... ours is all on UNIX  so possibly easier to script.

Phil

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Simon
Sent: 09 November 2006 06:30
To: 'Darren Dunham'
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Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Recognise Media from NBU



Darren
Ok to prevent any further confusion..

Tapes are in an ESL Robotic Library WITH barcodes :-)

Now, each month at least 40 - 50 tapes are taken out of the library,
placed
in cases and stored in a safe.
On the outside case, they label the tape MONTH XX - So they know a
backup
was performed at the end of each month.

The trouble they appear to be having.. When a restore is needed from
a
month end tape, they have to go searching for the tape or tapes that are
needed.

Now. My argument to this would be to Label the tape with the Month
number
PLUS the volume pool it came from - for example if it's a file server,
the
volume would come from the File_Server_Month_Pool - However they
cannot do
this as it's a time consuming task.

Now, my other argument was to start a restore which would then say in
the
Activity Monitor tape L3 required - then they could load the tape.
I
thought this would be ok, but again seems to be a problem for them.

So My question was Is there an EASIER method or command that could
be
used to identify what tape is needed for a restore BEFORE you actually
start
the restore? If not, then I see 2 options:

1) Use Activity Monitor and when prompted, load the applicable tape or
tapes
2) Label the tape from the corresponding pool number

I should point out, this is not just a safe, its more like a vault with
THOUSANDS of tapes. Maybe the issue lies within the site (ie: better
organisation of tapes perhaps)? 

Anyhow, that was the question I may have answered it myself, but if
there is another easy method ?

Thanks

Regards

Simon Weaver
3rd Line Technical Support
Windows Domain Administrator 

EADS Astrium Limited, B23AA IM (DCS)
Anchorage Road, Portsmouth, PO3 5PU

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From: Darren Dunham [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 08 November 2006 18:41
To: Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Recognise Media from NBU


 One of our libraries has over 40 tapes taken out each and every month 
 to be stored in a safe.
  
 Trouble is, it is a time consuming process to label each tape (not 
 that I mind too much!).

But they do or don't have barcodes?  What type of label do you put on
the
tape?

 Anyhow, is there an EASY method or way to tell What data is on a tape 
 via a command line without the need to load the single tape into the 
 library?

 I could go through tapes one by one, but is there an easier method I 
 am overlooking?

I'm not sure I understand what information you want.  

What information goes on your labels?  Many sites just track all tapes
by
barcode.

There's lots of information to gather on the command line, but I
wouldn't
normally put it on the tape itself.

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Re: [Veritas-bu] RES: bpbkart on unix

2006-11-09 Thread Clooney, David
Just bge1

D 

-Original Message-
From: Dave Markham [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 09 November 2006 14:21
To: Clooney, David
Cc: Carlos Alberto Lima dos santos; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] RES: bpbkart on unix

Thanks ill try the required interface should it be /dev/bge1 or just bge1 ?

Thanks

Clooney, David wrote:
 Dave

 Are you sure your routing is correct, sounds a bit odd that by setting an 
 interface you are not using performance improves.

 If need be add an entry to the clients bp.conf  REQUIRED_INTERFACE = 
 $interface

 Regards

 /Dave

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dave 
 Markham
 Sent: 07 November 2006 15:38
 To: Carlos Alberto Lima dos santos
 Cc: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
 Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] RES: bpbkart on unix

 Cheers.

 Seems to only take about 5 mins to do the whole system doing that which is 
 good.

 I have done ftp's today and the speeds are ok.

 I also set the bge0 interface to 100 full even though im using bge1 
 interface. I have set the machine up in a new policy and ran a backup and 
 that has performed ok too ( around 11mbps ).

 I haven't changed anything other than setting bge0 to 100 full so its very 
 odd how things are working now. Im going to let it run over night and see 
 what happens.

 Thanks all

 Carlos Alberto Lima dos santos wrote:
   
 Use this command to test disk performance on Unix.
 /usr/openv/netbackup/bin/bpbkar -nocont DIRECTORY  /dev/null
 T+

 *Carlos Alberto Lima dos Santos*
 Eng. Computação - Jundiaí SP-BR
 *** [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]**
 *H* https://www.linkedin.com/in/carlostoca
 *skype* carlostoca
 *msn only* [EMAIL PROTECTED]


 
 *De:* [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Em nome de
 *Clooney, David
 *Enviada em:* terça-feira, 7 de novembro de 2006 09:55
 *Para:* Edson Noboru Yamada; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 *Cc:* veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
 *Assunto:* Re: [Veritas-bu] bpbkart on unix

 Dave
 Look in the performance tuning guide to test bpbkar to dev null
 Dave

 
 *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of
 *Edson Noboru Yamada
 *Sent:* 07 November 2006 11:06
 *To:* [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 *Cc:* veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
 *Subject:* Re: [Veritas-bu] bpbkart on unix


 Dave

 If you can ftp/scp a file from one server to another with a normal
 throughtput, certainly
 it´s not a network issue.

 Have you tested bpbkar to /dev/null on the client?

 How the client CPU behaves when you start a backup?

 tia

 On 11/7/06, *Dave Markham* [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Guys checked the switch and all set to 100 full autoneg off.

 Will have to look at the card next i think.


 WEAVER, Simon wrote:
  Dave
  Anything on the switch that needs to be configured at all ?
 
  Regards
 
  Simon Weaver
  3rd Line Technical Support
  Windows Domain Administrator
 
  EADS Astrium Limited, B23AA IM (DCS)
  Anchorage Road, Portsmouth, PO3 5PU
 
  Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Dave Markham [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: 07 November 2006 10:27
  To: Edson Noboru Yamada
  Cc: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
 mailto:veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
  Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] bpbkart on unix
 
 
  Getting 128kb from one client over a 100mbit network
 connected to the backup
  server which is gig ethernet and attached to L700 by fibre
 using LTO2
  drives.
 
  When ever had this before its always just been duplex and
 autoneg settings
  but this time that hasnt fixed things
 
  Cheers
 
  Edson Noboru Yamada wrote:
 
  You can use the unix time command to measure how long a
 bpbkar to
  /dev/null takes (google bpbkar /dev/null and you should see
 the exact
  syntax).
 
  What do you mean by slow? How many MB/s are you getting?
 
  edson
 
 
  On 11/6/06, *Dave Markham*  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Anyone point me in the direction of a doc or technote on
 how to
  benchmark the bpbkar performance on a unix ( solaris )
 client? I cant
  

Re: [Veritas-bu] Duplication

2006-11-09 Thread Austin Murphy
On 11/8/06, Martin, Jonathan (Contractor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Or just use Quantum DLT-S4s.  90MB/sec write times, 800GB uncompressed per 
 tape
 and they fit in all the same Quantum Libraries as LTO3s.  Not only do they 
 fit, but
 Quantum charges the same price for LTO3 as they do for DLT-S4 for the 
 libraries
 and maintenance.

FYI - The native write speed of the DLT-S4 drives is 60MB/sec and the
DLT cartridges are slightly fatter than the LTO Ultrium cartridges so
fewer fit in the same library (and you need different magazines).  The
$$/GB is a bit better though, especially when you have a full library.

Austin
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Re: [Veritas-bu] bpbkar null windows file

2006-11-09 Thread Bobby Williams
You are putting in an extra l (lower case L).

The null devices on windows only has one lower case L.  And the tech note shows 
only one.

Bobby.




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Date: 2006/11/09 Thu AM 09:03:33 EST
To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: [Veritas-bu] bpbkar null windows file

Sorry for the strange topic. im trying to run a bpbkar32 -nocont
ALL_LOCAL_DRIVES 1 null 2 null (or even c: instead of
all_local_drives) on a windwos 2000  box with netbackup 4.5 client.

Its very strange but it starts to create a file called 'null' which
grows so i have to kil the process off.

Im following technote :-

http://support.veritas.com/docs/242918

and doing exactly what it says.

Any ideas?

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[Veritas-bu] Windows Differential / Cumulative Backups

2006-11-09 Thread Gary Williams

 

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Hi, 
In our "Unix" world we do a full backup monthly, ( 12 months retention ), a differential incremental Monday - Friday ( 14 days retention), and a cumulative incremental at the weekends ( 1 month retention ), which satisfies our requirements. We are now starting to migrate our "Windows" world into Netbackup and our immediate plan was to implement the same strategy as used in Unix. However, we have found some documentation which recommends not mixing differentials and cumulatives in the Windows arena. I was hoping that someone could clarify this for me, and if possible explain the reasons why.

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Re: [Veritas-bu] Windows Differential / Cumulative Backups

2006-11-09 Thread Darren Dunham
 Because when you run your differential incrementals, the archive bit
 will be set.  If you try to do a cumulative after a differentail (or
 the other way around), nothing has its archive bit in a state that
 says it needs to be backed up.
 
 Unix uses the data/time of the last successfull backup of the policy.
 Since both would look back to the last schedule of type FULL, they
 should get the right info.

I suppose you could do the same on windows if you used timestamp instead
of archive bit (which I can't remember how to change).


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Re: [Veritas-bu] Recognise Media from NBU

2006-11-09 Thread Paul Keating
Title: Message



Or 
they can just watch the restore progress log which will specify that the tape is 
not in the robot.

Paul


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  Recognise Media from NBU
  GCheers Henry
  I have told them to use Activity Monitor and if a tape is 
  needed, verify with the "Media" gui if it is in the robot. If not, find the 
  tape it wants and chuck it in :-)
  

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Re: [Veritas-bu] Recognise Media from NBU

2006-11-09 Thread WEAVER, Simon

Darren
Too many comments made, so in summary:

1) I look after my catalog, have my own DR plans, and offline / off-site
storage for this, so I am not worried about this.

2) Agreed query the catalog or use AM - it tells you the tape. I am all for
this It's the other site that has all these issues, not myself! Why they
cannot adopt this is unclear.

3) Putting the info on the label is not a problem - it was done here with
over 60 LTO1 Tapes and never a problem. And again, part of our backup
procedures state that in the event of a major disaster, we need to identify
easily our most crital systems that need to be restored. In my case, we
label them from their corresponding volume pools - its no big deal, and
keeps everyone happy. Does not take that long either :-)

4) agreed, I have gone through an import of over 30 tapes and it was a
HEADACHE!!! Why did this happen? Because someone deleted the catalog, then
lost the tapes ! Hence why I implemented off-site / on-site cat backups,
file level cat backups and ensure the catalog is intact and documented :-)

Hope this makes things clearer !

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From: Darren Dunham [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 09 November 2006 15:56
To: Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Recognise Media from NBU


 Paul
 Ok, thats fine relying on the catalog (the application catalog?), but 
 probably not alot of help if the catalog is unavailable - assume this 
 is=  the case as I see the catalog as a single point of failure from a 
 security / audit perspective.

That's the entire job of the catalog.  Backups of the catalog and care of it
should keep it safe and secure.  

If you're worried about what to do if you lost your catalog, now is the time
to find out, not when it actually happens.  

All of my procedures and tasks assume the catalog is available or that I'm
working an issue to reconstruct it from tapes or other copies.

 again, from security and audit, we do label the tapes Month number + 
 the month volume pool it comes from. This is essential, because I dont 
 want to be in the same boat as the other site, where they have 
 thousands of tapes, and do not seem to know what tapes belong to what 
 backup client.

Depending on the size, that amount of information just doesn't seem to be
sufficient.  I would think I'd have hundreds of tapes in any given
month/pool combination.  If I need to match a tape to a particular client, I
run a quick script that queries the catalog.

 I do not wish to accomplish anything I was looking at a way of 
 trying to make their life easier to load tapes back into the library 
 when a restore from a certain tape is needed.

I just don't think you'd be able to put enough information on the label (and
keep them organized around it) to predict exactly which tape you'd need
beforehand unless you used lots of different pools.  And keeping track of
that many pools can be a different problem.

 If we are saying that the use of Activity Monitor is better than 
 sitting down and labelling tapes, thats fine :-) I just wanted to be 
 sure nothing simple was being overlooked.

In most cases, I think that's the best thing to do.  You can also hit the
preview button before the restore begins.  

 BTW, dont expect the catalog to be unavailable, but I would not rely 
 on that one source (especially if it was lost and unrecoverable!). I 
 dont want to be looking at a vault of 1000+ tapes to be imported !!

I think that's exactly why I do expect the catalog to be available.
Importing that many tapes would be horrendous so I'm going to take care to
keep it available.  Where is your backup copy of the catalog?  Where else is
it?  How is that location recorded (for you and for others)? Have you ever
tested a catalog recovery so that you know what to expect?

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