Re: [Veritas-bu] Recognise Media from NBU
Title: Message Simon When you say data, what exactly do you mean ? Dave From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of WEAVER, SimonSent: 08 November 2006 16:52To: Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.eduSubject: [Veritas-bu] Recognise Media from NBU Hi all Quick question - NBU 5.1 MP2 Win2k3 Server One of our libraries has over 40 tapes taken out each and every month to be stored in a safe. Trouble is, it is a time consuming process to label each tape (not that I mind too much!). Anyhow, is there an EASY method or way to tell What data is on a tape via a command line without the need to load the single tape into the library? I could go through tapes one by one, but is there an easier method I am overlooking? Thank you Regards Simon Weaver3rd Line Technical SupportWindows Domain Administrator EADS Astrium Limited, B23AA IM (DCS)Anchorage Road, Portsmouth, PO3 5PU Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This email (including any attachments) may contain confidential and/or privileged information or information otherwise protected from disclosure. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately, do not copy this message or any attachments and do not use it for any purpose or disclose its content to any person, but delete this message and any attachments from your system. Astrium disclaims any and all liability if this email transmission was virus corrupted, altered or falsified.-Astrium Limited, Registered in England and Wales No. 2449259Registered Office: Gunnels Wood Road, Stevenage, Hertfordshire, SG1 2AS, EnglandNotice to recipient:The information in this internet e-mail and any attachments is confidential and may be privileged. It is intended solely for the addressee. If you are not the intended addressee please notify the sender immediately by telephone. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it, is prohibited and may be unlawful.When addressed to external clients any opinions or advice contained in this internet e-mail are subject to the terms and conditions expressed in any applicable governing terms of business or client engagement letter issued by the pertinent Bank of America group entity.If this email originates from the U.K. please note that Bank of America, N.A., London Branch and Banc of America Securities Limited are authorised and regulated by the Financial Services Authority. ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
[Veritas-bu] Help with /etc/symlinks.translations
Hi all, I am trying to map NT usernames to NIS usernames and home directories. I have modified the /etc/usermap.cfg for the accounts whose names differ, but I cannot find any documentation on how to use the /etc/symlinks.translations file for mapping the NIS home directory to a local path. Any help appreciated, TIA, Matt. ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] VNB 5.1MP5 : DSSU verses DSU
Ray DSSU - stands for Disk staging Storage Unit , from the below I would think this is what you are after, whereas you write to the storage unit and then duplicate off to tape at a later stage. DSU - stands for Disk Storage Unit. For DSSU's you can set up schedules to write off to tape and to which pool and so on , DSU you don't have that functionality. Regards David Try a couple tests by adding new storage units and and choose disk staging as the type . From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: 08 November 2006 18:18To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.eduSubject: [Veritas-bu] VNB 5.1MP5 : DSSU verses DSU I'm running Solaris 5.8 master/media located in one state, which controls another media server in another state. VNB 5.1MP5. (1) What's the difference between a DSSU and DSU. (2) We want to backup to DSSU/DSU, then copy to tape. Any advise on this subject. Thanks in advance.Ray H.ext 8527***"The single biggest problem in communication is the illusion that it has taken place".--George Bernard ShawNotice to recipient:The information in this internet e-mail and any attachments is confidential and may be privileged. It is intended solely for the addressee. If you are not the intended addressee please notify the sender immediately by telephone. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it, is prohibited and may be unlawful.When addressed to external clients any opinions or advice contained in this internet e-mail are subject to the terms and conditions expressed in any applicable governing terms of business or client engagement letter issued by the pertinent Bank of America group entity.If this email originates from the U.K. please note that Bank of America, N.A., London Branch and Banc of America Securities Limited are authorised and regulated by the Financial Services Authority. ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Recognise Media from NBU
Title: Message Dave In respect of knowing what client backup was on the monthly tape. For example if SERVER1 was backed up with a 1 year retention it is classed as a monthly backup. That tape is unloaded and placed into a safe / vault. If 5 months down the line they need to restore data for the client, they wanted to quickly find out what tape was used for restoring any data for the server1 backup. Anyhow, I think the easiest method here is going to just rely on activity monitor and if a tape is needed not in the Library, then they can just go ahead and load it :-) Regards Simon Weaver3rd Line Technical SupportWindows Domain Administrator EADS Astrium Limited, B23AA IM (DCS)Anchorage Road, Portsmouth, PO3 5PU Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message-From: Clooney, David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 09 November 2006 10:55To: WEAVER, Simon; Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.eduSubject: RE: [Veritas-bu] Recognise Media from NBU Simon When you say data, what exactly do you mean ? Dave From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of WEAVER, SimonSent: 08 November 2006 16:52To: Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.eduSubject: [Veritas-bu] Recognise Media from NBU Hi all Quick question - NBU 5.1 MP2 Win2k3 Server One of our libraries has over 40 tapes taken out each and every month to be stored in a safe. Trouble is, it is a time consuming process to label each tape (not that I mind too much!). Anyhow, is there an EASY method or way to tell What data is on a tape via a command line without the need to load the single tape into the library? I could go through tapes one by one, but is there an easier method I am overlooking? Thank you Regards Simon Weaver3rd Line Technical SupportWindows Domain Administrator EADS Astrium Limited, B23AA IM (DCS)Anchorage Road, Portsmouth, PO3 5PU Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This email (including any attachments) may contain confidential and/or privileged information or information otherwise protected from disclosure. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately, do not copy this message or any attachments and do not use it for any purpose or disclose its content to any person, but delete this message and any attachments from your system. Astrium disclaims any and all liability if this email transmission was virus corrupted, altered or falsified.-Astrium Limited, Registered in England and Wales No. 2449259Registered Office: Gunnels Wood Road, Stevenage, Hertfordshire, SG1 2AS, England Notice to recipient:The information in this internet e-mail and any attachments is confidential and may be privileged. It is intended solely for the addressee. If you are not the intended addressee please notify the sender immediately by telephone. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it, is prohibited and may be unlawful.When addressed to external clients any opinions or advice contained in this internet e-mail are subject to the terms and conditions expressed in any applicable governing terms of business or client engagement letter issued by the pertinent Bank of America group entity.If this email originates from the U.K. please note that Bank of America, N.A., London Branch and Banc of America Securities Limited are authorised and regulated by the Financial Services Authority. This email (including any attachments) may contain confidential and/or privileged information or information otherwise protected from disclosure. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately, do not copy this message or any attachments and do not use it for any purpose or disclose its content to any person, but delete this message and any attachments from your system. Astrium disclaims any and all liability if this email transmission was virus corrupted, altered or falsified. - Astrium Limited, Registered in England and Wales No. 2449259 Registered Office: Gunnels Wood Road, Stevenage, Hertfordshire, SG1 2AS, England ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
[Veritas-bu] SQL Backups Status 2
Title: Message Hi all Win2k3 NBU 5.1 MP2 Need to implement SQL Backups online. got a license key, and applied that. I am reading through the manual, and starting to think this looks harder than it shoudl be! I have an SMS Server (systems management) that runs SQL 2000 and I need to do an online backup. Anyone experience in using SQL_Backups and offer some hints and tips? Tried a test and got a status 2, so I know I am not off to a good start! Thanks Regards Simon Weaver3rd Line Technical SupportWindows Domain Administrator EADS Astrium Limited, B23AA IM (DCS)Anchorage Road, Portsmouth, PO3 5PU Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This email (including any attachments) may contain confidential and/or privileged information or information otherwise protected from disclosure. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately, do not copy this message or any attachments and do not use it for any purpose or disclose its content to any person, but delete this message and any attachments from your system. Astrium disclaims any and all liability if this email transmission was virus corrupted, altered or falsified. - Astrium Limited, Registered in England and Wales No. 2449259 Registered Office: Gunnels Wood Road, Stevenage, Hertfordshire, SG1 2AS, England ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
[Veritas-bu] Ingres backup...
Hi all, If a want to start a script thats backing up Ingres on a client. How do I best start that script from the master with a policy? I dont want to start it from cron from the client.. Thanks and regards, Hampus Lind Rikspolisstyrelsen National Police Board Tel dir: +46 (0)8 - 401 99 43 Tel mob: +46 (0)70 - 217 92 66 E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] SQL Backups Status 2
Title: Message Use SQL Server's built in functionality to write backups to disk and then pickup those files with file level backups. Unless you have a LARGE and UNWIELDY SQL Database that's your best option (and it saves you the SQL Database Client to boot!) Ok, that's just the way we do it here. But we do use it for everything from Voicemail to SMS, Antivirus to Reports and it does the job even for our largest SQL Databases. (200GB.) Everything larger than that is in Oracle. -Jonathan From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of WEAVER, SimonSent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 7:05 AMTo: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.eduSubject: [Veritas-bu] SQL Backups Status 2 Hi all Win2k3 NBU 5.1 MP2 Need to implement SQL Backups online. got a license key, and applied that. I am reading through the manual, and starting to think this looks harder than it shoudl be! I have an SMS Server (systems management) that runs SQL 2000 and I need to do an online backup. Anyone experience in using SQL_Backups and offer some hints and tips? Tried a test and got a status 2, so I know I am not off to a good start! Thanks Regards Simon Weaver3rd Line Technical SupportWindows Domain Administrator EADS Astrium Limited, B23AA IM (DCS)Anchorage Road, Portsmouth, PO3 5PU Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This email (including any attachments) may contain confidential and/or privileged information or information otherwise protected from disclosure. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately, do not copy this message or any attachments and do not use it for any purpose or disclose its content to any person, but delete this message and any attachments from your system. Astrium disclaims any and all liability if this email transmission was virus corrupted, altered or falsified.-Astrium Limited, Registered in England and Wales No. 2449259Registered Office: Gunnels Wood Road, Stevenage, Hertfordshire, SG1 2AS, England ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Recognise Media from NBU
If you want to work out which tapes are required for a restore either:-- through the admin GUi in the Backup, Archive Recovery pane select the files to be restored as usual and before clicking on the "Restore" button and it tells you which tapes you need-- if you prefer the command line then you can use "bpimagelist -media -U -client clientname -hoursago NN" if its the most recent backup or use the "-e" and "-s" flags to specify start/end backup windowIf you want to know what is on each tape then try "bpimmedia media_number" that gives you a report of all the backup fragments and their associated images on the tape. I wouldn't even think about writing which backup images on the individual tapes - if you're worried about importing swathes of tapes then it could be worth saving a copy of "bpimmedia -m mediaid_number" whenever you remove a tape somewhere safe so you've got a redundant version of what's on each tape... You can then go back through these reports to which out which tapes an image spans.Rgds,HenryOn 9 Nov 2006, at 11:34, WEAVER, Simon wrote: Dave In respect of knowing what client backup was on the monthly tape. For example if SERVER1 was backed up with a 1 year retention it is classed as a monthly backup. That tape is unloaded and placed into a safe / vault. If 5 months down the line they need to restore data for the client, they wanted to quickly find out what tape was used for restoring any data for the server1 backup. Anyhow, I think the easiest method here is going to just rely on activity monitor and if a tape is needed not in the Library, then they can just go ahead and load it :-) RegardsSimon Weaver3rd Line Technical SupportWindows Domain Administrator EADS Astrium Limited, B23AA IM (DCS)Anchorage Road, Portsmouth, PO3 5PUEmail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message-From: Clooney, David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 09 November 2006 10:55To: WEAVER, Simon; Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.eduSubject: RE: [Veritas-bu] Recognise Media from NBU Simon When you say data, what exactly do you mean ? Dave From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of WEAVER, SimonSent: 08 November 2006 16:52To: Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.eduSubject: [Veritas-bu] Recognise Media from NBUHi all Quick question - NBU 5.1 MP2 Win2k3 Server One of our libraries has over 40 tapes taken out each and every month to be stored in a safe. Trouble is, it is a time consuming process to label each tape (not that I mind too much!). Anyhow, is there an EASY method or way to tell What data is on a tape via a command line without the need to load the single tape into the library? I could go through tapes one by one, but is there an easier method I am overlooking? Thank you RegardsSimon Weaver3rd Line Technical SupportWindows Domain Administrator EADS Astrium Limited, B23AA IM (DCS)Anchorage Road, Portsmouth, PO3 5PUEmail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This email (including any attachments) may contain confidential and/or privileged information or information otherwise protected from disclosure. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately, do not copy this message or any attachments and do not use it for any purpose or disclose its content to any person, but delete this message and any attachments from your system. Astrium disclaims any and all liability if this email transmission was virus corrupted, altered or falsified.-Astrium Limited, Registered in England and Wales No. 2449259Registered Office: Gunnels Wood Road, Stevenage, Hertfordshire, SG1 2AS, England Notice to recipient:The information in this internet e-mail and any attachments is confidential and may be privileged. It is intended solely for the addressee. If you are not the intended addressee please notify the sender immediately by telephone. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it, is prohibited and may be unlawful.When addressed to external clients any opinions or advice contained in this internet e-mail are subject to the terms and conditions expressed in any applicable governing terms of business or client engagement letter issued by the pertinent Bank of America group entity.If this email originates from the U.K. please note that Bank of America, N.A., London Branch and Banc of America Securities Limited are authorised and regulated by the Financial Services Authority. This email (including any attachments) may contain confidential and/or privileged information or information otherwise protected from disclosure. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately, do not copy this message or any
[Veritas-bu] Backup of Mysql...
Hi all, How do you all backup your mysql databases? Is there any database agent? Thanks Hampus Lind Rikspolisstyrelsen National Police Board Tel dir: +46 (0)8 - 401 99 43 Tel mob: +46 (0)70 - 217 92 66 E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Ingres backup...
Hi Hampus I would use bpstart_notify to run the script that's backing up ingress Regards Michael On Thu, 9 Nov 2006 14:14:10 +0100, Hampus Lind wrote Hi all, If a want to start a script thats backing up Ingres on a client. How do I best start that script from the master with a policy? I dont want to start it from cron from the client.. Thanks and regards, Hampus Lind Rikspolisstyrelsen National Police Board Tel dir: +46 (0)8 - 401 99 43 Tel mob: +46 (0)70 - 217 92 66 E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Cybercity Webhosting (http://www.cybercity.dk) ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Backup of Mysql...
Hi Hampus I think there is a script called mysqlhotcopy There wasn't any database agent when I checked last, but that is some time ago. Regards Michael On Thu, 9 Nov 2006 14:21:13 +0100, Hampus Lind wrote Hi all, How do you all backup your mysql databases? Is there any database agent? Thanks Hampus Lind Rikspolisstyrelsen National Police Board Tel dir: +46 (0)8 - 401 99 43 Tel mob: +46 (0)70 - 217 92 66 E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Cybercity Webhosting (http://www.cybercity.dk) ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] SQL Backups Status 2
Hi Simon Make the dbbackup and dbclient directories under Netbackup/logs and raise verbose to 5, this usually gives a pretty indication of what problem is. Regards Michael On Thu, 9 Nov 2006 12:04:59 - , WEAVER, Simon wrote Hi all Win2k3 NBU 5.1 MP2 Need to implement SQL Backups online. got a license key, and applied that. I am reading through the manual, and starting to think this looks harder than it shoudl be! I have an SMS Server (systems management) that runs SQL 2000 and I need to do an online backup. Anyone experience in using SQL_Backups and offer some hints and tips? Tried a test and got a status 2, so I know I am not off to a good start! Thanks Regards Simon Weaver 3rd Line Technical Support Windows Domain Administrator EADS Astrium Limited, B23AA IM (DCS) Anchorage Road, Portsmouth, PO3 5PU Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This email (including any attachments) may contain confidential and/or privileged information or information otherwise protected from disclosure. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately, do not copy this message or any attachments and do not use it for any purpose or disclose its content to any person, but delete this message and any attachments from your system. Astrium disclaims any and all liability if this email transmission was virus corrupted, altered or falsified. - Astrium Limited, Registered in England and Wales No. 2449259 Registered Office: Gunnels Wood Road, Stevenage, Hertfordshire, SG1 2AS, England -- Cybercity Webhosting (http://www.cybercity.dk) ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Recognise Media from NBU
Title: Message GCheers Henry I have told them to use Activity Monitor and if a tape is needed, verify with the "Media" gui if it is in the robot. If not, find the tape it wants and chuck it in :-) Regards Simon Weaver3rd Line Technical SupportWindows Domain Administrator EADS Astrium Limited, B23AA IM (DCS)Anchorage Road, Portsmouth, PO3 5PU Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message-From: Henry Kemp [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 09 November 2006 13:02To: Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.eduSubject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Recognise Media from NBUIf you want to work out which tapes are required for a restore either: -- through the admin GUi in the Backup, Archive Recovery pane select the files to be restored as usual and before clicking on the "Restore" button and it tells you which tapes you need -- if you prefer the command line then you can use "bpimagelist -media -U -client clientname -hoursago NN" if its the most recent backup or use the "-e" and "-s" flags to specify start/end backup window If you want to know what is on each tape then try "bpimmedia media_number" that gives you a report of all the backup fragments and their associated images on the tape. I wouldn't even think about writing which backup images on the individual tapes - if you're worried about importing swathes of tapes then it could be worth saving a copy of "bpimmedia -m mediaid_number" whenever you remove a tape somewhere safe so you've got a redundant version of what's on each tape... You can then go back through these reports to which out which tapes an image spans. Rgds, Henry On 9 Nov 2006, at 11:34, WEAVER, Simon wrote: Dave In respect of knowing what client backup was on the monthly tape. For example if SERVER1 was backed up with a 1 year retention it is classed as a monthly backup. That tape is unloaded and placed into a safe / vault. If 5 months down the line they need to restore data for the client, they wanted to quickly find out what tape was used for restoring any data for the server1 backup. Anyhow, I think the easiest method here is going to just rely on activity monitor and if a tape is needed not in the Library, then they can just go ahead and load it :-) Regards Simon Weaver3rd Line Technical SupportWindows Domain Administrator EADS Astrium Limited, B23AA IM (DCS)Anchorage Road, Portsmouth, PO3 5PU Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message-From: Clooney, David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 09 November 2006 10:55To: WEAVER, Simon; Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.eduSubject: RE: [Veritas-bu] Recognise Media from NBU Simon When you say data, what exactly do you mean ? Dave From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of WEAVER, SimonSent: 08 November 2006 16:52To: Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.eduSubject: [Veritas-bu] Recognise Media from NBU Hi all Quick question - NBU 5.1 MP2 Win2k3 Server One of our libraries has over 40 tapes taken out each and every month to be stored in a safe. Trouble is, it is a time consuming process to label each tape (not that I mind too much!). Anyhow, is there an EASY method or way to tell What data is on a tape via a command line without the need to load the single tape into the library? I could go through tapes one by one, but is there an easier method I am overlooking? Thank you Regards Simon Weaver3rd Line Technical SupportWindows Domain Administrator EADS Astrium Limited, B23AA IM (DCS)Anchorage Road, Portsmouth, PO3 5PU Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This email (including any attachments) may contain confidential and/or privileged information or information otherwise protected from disclosure. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately, do not copy this message or any attachments and do not use it for any purpose or disclose its content to any person, but delete this message and any attachments from your system. Astrium disclaims any and all liability if this email transmission was virus corrupted, altered or falsified.-Astrium Limited, Registered in England and Wales No. 2449259Registered Office: Gunnels Wood Road, Stevenage, Hertfordshire, SG1 2AS, England Notice to recipient:The information in this
Re: [Veritas-bu] SQL Backups Status 2
Done that - its telling me it cannot see the SQL Server, even though permissions are applied. Account all looks fine from what I can see. NT Authentication too ! Regards Simon Weaver 3rd Line Technical Support Windows Domain Administrator EADS Astrium Limited, B23AA IM (DCS) Anchorage Road, Portsmouth, PO3 5PU Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 09 November 2006 13:57 To: WEAVER, Simon; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] SQL Backups Status 2 Hi Simon Make the dbbackup and dbclient directories under Netbackup/logs and raise verbose to 5, this usually gives a pretty indication of what problem is. Regards Michael On Thu, 9 Nov 2006 12:04:59 - , WEAVER, Simon wrote Hi all Win2k3 NBU 5.1 MP2 Need to implement SQL Backups online. got a license key, and applied that. I am reading through the manual, and starting to think this looks harder than it shoudl be! I have an SMS Server (systems management) that runs SQL 2000 and I need to do an online backup. Anyone experience in using SQL_Backups and offer some hints and tips? Tried a test and got a status 2, so I know I am not off to a good start! Thanks Regards Simon Weaver 3rd Line Technical Support Windows Domain Administrator EADS Astrium Limited, B23AA IM (DCS) Anchorage Road, Portsmouth, PO3 5PU Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This email (including any attachments) may contain confidential and/or privileged information or information otherwise protected from disclosure. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately, do not copy this message or any attachments and do not use it for any purpose or disclose its content to any person, but delete this message and any attachments from your system. Astrium disclaims any and all liability if this email transmission was virus corrupted, altered or falsified. - Astrium Limited, Registered in England and Wales No. 2449259 Registered Office: Gunnels Wood Road, Stevenage, Hertfordshire, SG1 2AS, England -- Cybercity Webhosting (http://www.cybercity.dk) This email (including any attachments) may contain confidential and/or privileged information or information otherwise protected from disclosure. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately, do not copy this message or any attachments and do not use it for any purpose or disclose its content to any person, but delete this message and any attachments from your system. Astrium disclaims any and all liability if this email transmission was virus corrupted, altered or falsified. - Astrium Limited, Registered in England and Wales No. 2449259 Registered Office: Gunnels Wood Road, Stevenage, Hertfordshire, SG1 2AS, England ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
[Veritas-bu] bpbkar null windows file
Sorry for the strange topic. im trying to run a bpbkar32 -nocont ALL_LOCAL_DRIVES 1 null 2 null (or even c: instead of all_local_drives) on a windwos 2000 box with netbackup 4.5 client. Its very strange but it starts to create a file called 'null' which grows so i have to kil the process off. Im following technote :- http://support.veritas.com/docs/242918 and doing exactly what it says. Any ideas? ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] SQL Backups Status 2
Title: Message Jonathan We do it here, but for the record, this failed for MONTHS!! so, that is not my best option, but I intend to have a DB Backup Plan as well as the online agent. I dont normally give up, so will keep trying!! Regards Simon Weaver3rd Line Technical SupportWindows Domain Administrator EADS Astrium Limited, B23AA IM (DCS)Anchorage Road, Portsmouth, PO3 5PU Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message-From: Martin, Jonathan (Contractor) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 09 November 2006 13:13To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.eduSubject: Re: [Veritas-bu] SQL Backups Status 2 Use SQL Server's built in functionality to write backups to disk and then pickup those files with file level backups. Unless you have a LARGE and UNWIELDY SQL Database that's your best option (and it saves you the SQL Database Client to boot!) Ok, that's just the way we do it here. But we do use it for everything from Voicemail to SMS, Antivirus to Reports and it does the job even for our largest SQL Databases. (200GB.) Everything larger than that is in Oracle. -Jonathan From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of WEAVER, SimonSent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 7:05 AMTo: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.eduSubject: [Veritas-bu] SQL Backups Status 2 Hi all Win2k3 NBU 5.1 MP2 Need to implement SQL Backups online. got a license key, and applied that. I am reading through the manual, and starting to think this looks harder than it shoudl be! I have an SMS Server (systems management) that runs SQL 2000 and I need to do an online backup. Anyone experience in using SQL_Backups and offer some hints and tips? Tried a test and got a status 2, so I know I am not off to a good start! Thanks Regards Simon Weaver3rd Line Technical SupportWindows Domain Administrator EADS Astrium Limited, B23AA IM (DCS)Anchorage Road, Portsmouth, PO3 5PU Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This email (including any attachments) may contain confidential and/or privileged information or information otherwise protected from disclosure. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately, do not copy this message or any attachments and do not use it for any purpose or disclose its content to any person, but delete this message and any attachments from your system. Astrium disclaims any and all liability if this email transmission was virus corrupted, altered or falsified.-Astrium Limited, Registered in England and Wales No. 2449259Registered Office: Gunnels Wood Road, Stevenage, Hertfordshire, SG1 2AS, England This email (including any attachments) may contain confidential and/or privileged information or information otherwise protected from disclosure. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately, do not copy this message or any attachments and do not use it for any purpose or disclose its content to any person, but delete this message and any attachments from your system. Astrium disclaims any and all liability if this email transmission was virus corrupted, altered or falsified. - Astrium Limited, Registered in England and Wales No. 2449259 Registered Office: Gunnels Wood Road, Stevenage, Hertfordshire, SG1 2AS, England ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] RES: bpbkart on unix
Thanks ill try the required interface should it be /dev/bge1 or just bge1 ? Thanks Clooney, David wrote: Dave Are you sure your routing is correct, sounds a bit odd that by setting an interface you are not using performance improves. If need be add an entry to the clients bp.conf REQUIRED_INTERFACE = $interface Regards /Dave -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dave Markham Sent: 07 November 2006 15:38 To: Carlos Alberto Lima dos santos Cc: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] RES: bpbkart on unix Cheers. Seems to only take about 5 mins to do the whole system doing that which is good. I have done ftp's today and the speeds are ok. I also set the bge0 interface to 100 full even though im using bge1 interface. I have set the machine up in a new policy and ran a backup and that has performed ok too ( around 11mbps ). I haven't changed anything other than setting bge0 to 100 full so its very odd how things are working now. Im going to let it run over night and see what happens. Thanks all Carlos Alberto Lima dos santos wrote: Use this command to test disk performance on Unix. /usr/openv/netbackup/bin/bpbkar -nocont DIRECTORY /dev/null T+ *Carlos Alberto Lima dos Santos* Eng. Computação - Jundiaí SP-BR *** [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]** *H* https://www.linkedin.com/in/carlostoca *skype* carlostoca *msn only* [EMAIL PROTECTED] *De:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Em nome de *Clooney, David *Enviada em:* terça-feira, 7 de novembro de 2006 09:55 *Para:* Edson Noboru Yamada; [EMAIL PROTECTED] *Cc:* veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu *Assunto:* Re: [Veritas-bu] bpbkart on unix Dave Look in the performance tuning guide to test bpbkar to dev null Dave *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *Edson Noboru Yamada *Sent:* 07 November 2006 11:06 *To:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] *Cc:* veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu *Subject:* Re: [Veritas-bu] bpbkart on unix Dave If you can ftp/scp a file from one server to another with a normal throughtput, certainly it´s not a network issue. Have you tested bpbkar to /dev/null on the client? How the client CPU behaves when you start a backup? tia On 11/7/06, *Dave Markham* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Guys checked the switch and all set to 100 full autoneg off. Will have to look at the card next i think. WEAVER, Simon wrote: Dave Anything on the switch that needs to be configured at all ? Regards Simon Weaver 3rd Line Technical Support Windows Domain Administrator EADS Astrium Limited, B23AA IM (DCS) Anchorage Road, Portsmouth, PO3 5PU Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Dave Markham [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 07 November 2006 10:27 To: Edson Noboru Yamada Cc: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu mailto:veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] bpbkart on unix Getting 128kb from one client over a 100mbit network connected to the backup server which is gig ethernet and attached to L700 by fibre using LTO2 drives. When ever had this before its always just been duplex and autoneg settings but this time that hasnt fixed things Cheers Edson Noboru Yamada wrote: You can use the unix time command to measure how long a bpbkar to /dev/null takes (google bpbkar /dev/null and you should see the exact syntax). What do you mean by slow? How many MB/s are you getting? edson On 11/6/06, *Dave Markham* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyone point me in the direction of a doc or technote on how to benchmark the bpbkar performance on a unix ( solaris ) client? I cant find anything. Only the windows one. Im having backup speed problems and want to rule out NBU. Strange thing is if i set the network to 100 mb , full duplex, autoneg off and scp a filre in boith
Re: [Veritas-bu] Recognise Media from NBU
We take tapes out regularly, using a script that checks which tapes aren't going to expire until a certain month. When the script ejects these, it changes the volume group for the tape to be the month name. The tape then goes in the box similarly labelled with the month name. When a restore requests a tape that is out of the library, the device monitor (vmoprcmd -d pr) will show what volume group is allocated to it, and hence which box it is in, so it can easily be found. Of course this is still dependent on people putting the tapes in the right boxes, and I've had problems with that :-) - it's great fun going through all the boxes comparing the tapes with where NetBackup thinks they are! hope this helps... ours is all on UNIX so possibly easier to script. Phil -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of WEAVER, Simon Sent: 09 November 2006 06:30 To: 'Darren Dunham' Cc: Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Recognise Media from NBU Darren Ok to prevent any further confusion.. Tapes are in an ESL Robotic Library WITH barcodes :-) Now, each month at least 40 - 50 tapes are taken out of the library, placed in cases and stored in a safe. On the outside case, they label the tape MONTH XX - So they know a backup was performed at the end of each month. The trouble they appear to be having.. When a restore is needed from a month end tape, they have to go searching for the tape or tapes that are needed. Now. My argument to this would be to Label the tape with the Month number PLUS the volume pool it came from - for example if it's a file server, the volume would come from the File_Server_Month_Pool - However they cannot do this as it's a time consuming task. Now, my other argument was to start a restore which would then say in the Activity Monitor tape L3 required - then they could load the tape. I thought this would be ok, but again seems to be a problem for them. So My question was Is there an EASIER method or command that could be used to identify what tape is needed for a restore BEFORE you actually start the restore? If not, then I see 2 options: 1) Use Activity Monitor and when prompted, load the applicable tape or tapes 2) Label the tape from the corresponding pool number I should point out, this is not just a safe, its more like a vault with THOUSANDS of tapes. Maybe the issue lies within the site (ie: better organisation of tapes perhaps)? Anyhow, that was the question I may have answered it myself, but if there is another easy method ? Thanks Regards Simon Weaver 3rd Line Technical Support Windows Domain Administrator EADS Astrium Limited, B23AA IM (DCS) Anchorage Road, Portsmouth, PO3 5PU Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Darren Dunham [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 08 November 2006 18:41 To: Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Recognise Media from NBU One of our libraries has over 40 tapes taken out each and every month to be stored in a safe. Trouble is, it is a time consuming process to label each tape (not that I mind too much!). But they do or don't have barcodes? What type of label do you put on the tape? Anyhow, is there an EASY method or way to tell What data is on a tape via a command line without the need to load the single tape into the library? I could go through tapes one by one, but is there an easier method I am overlooking? I'm not sure I understand what information you want. What information goes on your labels? Many sites just track all tapes by barcode. There's lots of information to gather on the command line, but I wouldn't normally put it on the tape itself. -- Darren Dunham [EMAIL PROTECTED] Senior Technical Consultant TAOShttp://www.taos.com/ Got some Dr Pepper? San Francisco, CA bay area This line left intentionally blank to confuse you. ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu This email (including any attachments) may contain confidential and/or privileged information or information otherwise protected from disclosure. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately, do not copy this message or any attachments and do not use it for any purpose or disclose its content to any person, but delete this message and any attachments from your system. Astrium disclaims any and all liability if this email transmission was virus corrupted, altered or falsified. - Astrium Limited, Registered in England and Wales No. 2449259 Registered Office: Gunnels Wood Road, Stevenage, Hertfordshire, SG1 2AS, England ___ Veritas-bu maillist -
Re: [Veritas-bu] RES: bpbkart on unix
Just bge1 D -Original Message- From: Dave Markham [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 09 November 2006 14:21 To: Clooney, David Cc: Carlos Alberto Lima dos santos; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] RES: bpbkart on unix Thanks ill try the required interface should it be /dev/bge1 or just bge1 ? Thanks Clooney, David wrote: Dave Are you sure your routing is correct, sounds a bit odd that by setting an interface you are not using performance improves. If need be add an entry to the clients bp.conf REQUIRED_INTERFACE = $interface Regards /Dave -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dave Markham Sent: 07 November 2006 15:38 To: Carlos Alberto Lima dos santos Cc: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] RES: bpbkart on unix Cheers. Seems to only take about 5 mins to do the whole system doing that which is good. I have done ftp's today and the speeds are ok. I also set the bge0 interface to 100 full even though im using bge1 interface. I have set the machine up in a new policy and ran a backup and that has performed ok too ( around 11mbps ). I haven't changed anything other than setting bge0 to 100 full so its very odd how things are working now. Im going to let it run over night and see what happens. Thanks all Carlos Alberto Lima dos santos wrote: Use this command to test disk performance on Unix. /usr/openv/netbackup/bin/bpbkar -nocont DIRECTORY /dev/null T+ *Carlos Alberto Lima dos Santos* Eng. Computação - Jundiaí SP-BR *** [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]** *H* https://www.linkedin.com/in/carlostoca *skype* carlostoca *msn only* [EMAIL PROTECTED] *De:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Em nome de *Clooney, David *Enviada em:* terça-feira, 7 de novembro de 2006 09:55 *Para:* Edson Noboru Yamada; [EMAIL PROTECTED] *Cc:* veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu *Assunto:* Re: [Veritas-bu] bpbkart on unix Dave Look in the performance tuning guide to test bpbkar to dev null Dave *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *Edson Noboru Yamada *Sent:* 07 November 2006 11:06 *To:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] *Cc:* veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu *Subject:* Re: [Veritas-bu] bpbkart on unix Dave If you can ftp/scp a file from one server to another with a normal throughtput, certainly it´s not a network issue. Have you tested bpbkar to /dev/null on the client? How the client CPU behaves when you start a backup? tia On 11/7/06, *Dave Markham* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Guys checked the switch and all set to 100 full autoneg off. Will have to look at the card next i think. WEAVER, Simon wrote: Dave Anything on the switch that needs to be configured at all ? Regards Simon Weaver 3rd Line Technical Support Windows Domain Administrator EADS Astrium Limited, B23AA IM (DCS) Anchorage Road, Portsmouth, PO3 5PU Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Dave Markham [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 07 November 2006 10:27 To: Edson Noboru Yamada Cc: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu mailto:veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] bpbkart on unix Getting 128kb from one client over a 100mbit network connected to the backup server which is gig ethernet and attached to L700 by fibre using LTO2 drives. When ever had this before its always just been duplex and autoneg settings but this time that hasnt fixed things Cheers Edson Noboru Yamada wrote: You can use the unix time command to measure how long a bpbkar to /dev/null takes (google bpbkar /dev/null and you should see the exact syntax). What do you mean by slow? How many MB/s are you getting? edson On 11/6/06, *Dave Markham* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyone point me in the direction of a doc or technote on how to benchmark the bpbkar performance on a unix ( solaris ) client? I cant
Re: [Veritas-bu] Duplication
On 11/8/06, Martin, Jonathan (Contractor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Or just use Quantum DLT-S4s. 90MB/sec write times, 800GB uncompressed per tape and they fit in all the same Quantum Libraries as LTO3s. Not only do they fit, but Quantum charges the same price for LTO3 as they do for DLT-S4 for the libraries and maintenance. FYI - The native write speed of the DLT-S4 drives is 60MB/sec and the DLT cartridges are slightly fatter than the LTO Ultrium cartridges so fewer fit in the same library (and you need different magazines). The $$/GB is a bit better though, especially when you have a full library. Austin ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] bpbkar null windows file
You are putting in an extra l (lower case L). The null devices on windows only has one lower case L. And the tech note shows only one. Bobby. From: Dave Markham [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2006/11/09 Thu AM 09:03:33 EST To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: [Veritas-bu] bpbkar null windows file Sorry for the strange topic. im trying to run a bpbkar32 -nocont ALL_LOCAL_DRIVES 1 null 2 null (or even c: instead of all_local_drives) on a windwos 2000 box with netbackup 4.5 client. Its very strange but it starts to create a file called 'null' which grows so i have to kil the process off. Im following technote :- http://support.veritas.com/docs/242918 and doing exactly what it says. Any ideas? ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu Bobby Williams 2205 Peterson Drive Chattanooga, TN 37421 ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
[Veritas-bu] Windows Differential / Cumulative Backups
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Re: [Veritas-bu] Windows Differential / Cumulative Backups
Because when you run your differential incrementals, the archive bit will be set. If you try to do a cumulative after a differentail (or the other way around), nothing has its archive bit in a state that says it needs to be backed up. Unix uses the data/time of the last successfull backup of the policy. Since both would look back to the last schedule of type FULL, they should get the right info. I suppose you could do the same on windows if you used timestamp instead of archive bit (which I can't remember how to change). -- Darren Dunham [EMAIL PROTECTED] Senior Technical Consultant TAOShttp://www.taos.com/ Got some Dr Pepper? San Francisco, CA bay area This line left intentionally blank to confuse you. ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Recognise Media from NBU
Title: Message Or they can just watch the restore progress log which will specify that the tape is not in the robot. Paul -- -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of WEAVER, SimonSent: November 9, 2006 8:53 AMTo: 'Henry Kemp'; Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.eduSubject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Recognise Media from NBU GCheers Henry I have told them to use Activity Monitor and if a tape is needed, verify with the "Media" gui if it is in the robot. If not, find the tape it wants and chuck it in :-) La version française suit le texte anglais. This email may contain privileged and/or confidential information, and the Bank of Canada does not waive any related rights. Any distribution, use, or copying of this email or the information it contains by other than the intended recipient is unauthorized. If you received this email in error please delete it immediately from your system and notify the sender promptly by email that you have done so. Le présent courriel peut contenir de l'information privilégiée ou confidentielle. La Banque du Canada ne renonce pas aux droits qui s'y rapportent. Toute diffusion, utilisation ou copie de ce courriel ou des renseignements qu'il contient par une personne autre que le ou les destinataires désignés est interdite. Si vous recevez ce courriel par erreur, veuillez le supprimer immédiatement et envoyer sans délai à l'expéditeur un message électronique pour l'aviser que vous avez éliminé de votre ordinateur toute copie du courriel reçu. ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Recognise Media from NBU
Darren Too many comments made, so in summary: 1) I look after my catalog, have my own DR plans, and offline / off-site storage for this, so I am not worried about this. 2) Agreed query the catalog or use AM - it tells you the tape. I am all for this It's the other site that has all these issues, not myself! Why they cannot adopt this is unclear. 3) Putting the info on the label is not a problem - it was done here with over 60 LTO1 Tapes and never a problem. And again, part of our backup procedures state that in the event of a major disaster, we need to identify easily our most crital systems that need to be restored. In my case, we label them from their corresponding volume pools - its no big deal, and keeps everyone happy. Does not take that long either :-) 4) agreed, I have gone through an import of over 30 tapes and it was a HEADACHE!!! Why did this happen? Because someone deleted the catalog, then lost the tapes ! Hence why I implemented off-site / on-site cat backups, file level cat backups and ensure the catalog is intact and documented :-) Hope this makes things clearer ! Regards Simon Weaver 3rd Line Technical Support Windows Domain Administrator EADS Astrium Limited, B23AA IM (DCS) Anchorage Road, Portsmouth, PO3 5PU Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Darren Dunham [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 09 November 2006 15:56 To: Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Recognise Media from NBU Paul Ok, thats fine relying on the catalog (the application catalog?), but probably not alot of help if the catalog is unavailable - assume this is= the case as I see the catalog as a single point of failure from a security / audit perspective. That's the entire job of the catalog. Backups of the catalog and care of it should keep it safe and secure. If you're worried about what to do if you lost your catalog, now is the time to find out, not when it actually happens. All of my procedures and tasks assume the catalog is available or that I'm working an issue to reconstruct it from tapes or other copies. again, from security and audit, we do label the tapes Month number + the month volume pool it comes from. This is essential, because I dont want to be in the same boat as the other site, where they have thousands of tapes, and do not seem to know what tapes belong to what backup client. Depending on the size, that amount of information just doesn't seem to be sufficient. I would think I'd have hundreds of tapes in any given month/pool combination. If I need to match a tape to a particular client, I run a quick script that queries the catalog. I do not wish to accomplish anything I was looking at a way of trying to make their life easier to load tapes back into the library when a restore from a certain tape is needed. I just don't think you'd be able to put enough information on the label (and keep them organized around it) to predict exactly which tape you'd need beforehand unless you used lots of different pools. And keeping track of that many pools can be a different problem. If we are saying that the use of Activity Monitor is better than sitting down and labelling tapes, thats fine :-) I just wanted to be sure nothing simple was being overlooked. In most cases, I think that's the best thing to do. You can also hit the preview button before the restore begins. BTW, dont expect the catalog to be unavailable, but I would not rely on that one source (especially if it was lost and unrecoverable!). I dont want to be looking at a vault of 1000+ tapes to be imported !! I think that's exactly why I do expect the catalog to be available. Importing that many tapes would be horrendous so I'm going to take care to keep it available. Where is your backup copy of the catalog? Where else is it? How is that location recorded (for you and for others)? Have you ever tested a catalog recovery so that you know what to expect? -- Darren Dunham [EMAIL PROTECTED] Senior Technical Consultant TAOShttp://www.taos.com/ Got some Dr Pepper? San Francisco, CA bay area This line left intentionally blank to confuse you. ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu This email (including any attachments) may contain confidential and/or privileged information or information otherwise protected from disclosure. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately, do not copy this message or any attachments and do not use it for any purpose or disclose its content to any person, but delete this message and any attachments from your system. Astrium disclaims any and all liability if this email transmission was virus corrupted, altered or falsified.