Re: [Veritas-bu] LTO-3 and MPX

[WEAVER, Simon]

Just for the record, last night setoff a policy which normally streams 5
jobs to 2 drive.

This time, configured for 3 streams to 3 drives. Just got into work and
found its MUCH SLOWER than the week before !!

So I will revert back !!



Regards

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From: Paul Keating [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 23 November 2006 13:42
To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] LTO-3 and MPX



If you backup server can handle the incoming IP traffic, and you can get it
to the drives..it will be great.

I found best aggregate performance for LTO2 and LTO3 with my GigE clients @
MPX=2, and my 100Mb/s clients @ MPX=8.

Paul

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Hi all,



How good/bad are LTO-3 drives when it comes to multiplexing? Would we see
great performance degradation if we set MPX to 4 on 1 LTO-3 drive and the
run 4 simulations backups to that drive?



I understand it can depend a lot on our clients as well...






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Re: [Veritas-bu] Running NetBackup 5.1 in a zone on Solaris 10

[Ed Wilts]

On 11/24/2006 12:45 PM, Jason Ellis wrote:
> We might be looking at migrating from Windows to Solaris 10 SPARC and 
> being Solaris 10 certified I know that Sun's best practice is to 
> recommend that you do not run anything in the global zone (unless it 
> requires direct kernel access like NFS). I was curious if anybody out 
> there is running NetBackup 5.1 MP2+ in a zone on Solaris 10 SPARC. I 
> plan to only run NetBackup on the server.

I don't have the reference handy and I'm too lazy to look it up, but I 
believe I read that running NetBackup in a zone is not supported.

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[Veritas-bu] Running NetBackup 5.1 in a zone on Solaris 10

[Jason Ellis]

We might be looking at migrating from Windows to Solaris 10 SPARC and being
Solaris 10 certified I know that Sun's best practice is to recommend that
you do not run anything in the global zone (unless it requires direct kernel
access like NFS). I was curious if anybody out there is running NetBackup
5.1 MP2+ in a zone on Solaris 10 SPARC. I plan to only run NetBackup on the
server.

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Re: [Veritas-bu] Oracle RMAN backups

[mkiles]

I am talking about NetBackup expiration only, RMAN
catalog should be cross checked with NBU catalog,
periodically to keep both in sync.

In my case I dont use RMAN catalog, I use control
file.

Thx
--- "Whelan, Patrick" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I was under the impression that RMAN backups were
> supposed to have INFINITE retention and that RMAN
> took care of expiring the images, there by keeping
> the RMAN catalog in sync with the NetBackup catalog.
> Otherwise RMAN will think there is a good backup,
> but NetBackup has expired it, if the retention level
> is different than what RMAN expects.
> 
> Someone please correct me if I'm wrong.
> 
> Patrick Whelan
> NetBackup Specialist
> Architect & Engineering
> +44 20 7863 5243
> 
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> Subject: [Veritas-bu] Oracle RMAN backups
> 
> Hi All
> 
> I am going through the NetBackup for Oracle Admin
> guide, it mentions that you can have multiple
> schedules in the policy with different retention
> periods. That is you can have a FULL backup schedule
> with retention period of 1 year and an INCREMENTAL
> backup schedule with retention of 1 month.
> 
> This may be new in NBU 6, but I remeber in NBU 5.x,
> the retention period that was always used was that
> of
> Default-Application-Backup schedule. 
> 
> So in my NBU 5.0 environment, I have ONE policy for
> FULL Oracle backup with 1 year retention and ONE
> Oracle policy for INCREMENTAL backups with 1 month
> retention. Each policy has 2 schedules in it, one of
> those is Default-Application-Backup schedule, both
> schedule have same retntion period, i.e. for FULL
> Backup policy retention period for both schedules is
> 1
> year and for INCREMENTAL policy retention period for
> both schedules is 1 month.
> 
> So my question is, is it the same behaviour in NBU
> 6.0
> for Oracle and SQL backups, or it has changed.
> 
> THX
> 
> 
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Re: [Veritas-bu] Oracle RMAN backups

[Whelan, Patrick]

I was under the impression that RMAN backups were supposed to have INFINITE 
retention and that RMAN took care of expiring the images, there by keeping the 
RMAN catalog in sync with the NetBackup catalog. Otherwise RMAN will think 
there is a good backup, but NetBackup has expired it, if the retention level is 
different than what RMAN expects.

Someone please correct me if I'm wrong.

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Subject: [Veritas-bu] Oracle RMAN backups

Hi All

I am going through the NetBackup for Oracle Admin
guide, it mentions that you can have multiple
schedules in the policy with different retention
periods. That is you can have a FULL backup schedule
with retention period of 1 year and an INCREMENTAL
backup schedule with retention of 1 month.

This may be new in NBU 6, but I remeber in NBU 5.x,
the retention period that was always used was that of
Default-Application-Backup schedule. 

So in my NBU 5.0 environment, I have ONE policy for
FULL Oracle backup with 1 year retention and ONE
Oracle policy for INCREMENTAL backups with 1 month
retention. Each policy has 2 schedules in it, one of
those is Default-Application-Backup schedule, both
schedule have same retntion period, i.e. for FULL
Backup policy retention period for both schedules is 1
year and for INCREMENTAL policy retention period for
both schedules is 1 month.

So my question is, is it the same behaviour in NBU 6.0
for Oracle and SQL backups, or it has changed.

THX


 

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[Veritas-bu] Oracle RMAN backups

[mkiles]

Hi All

I am going through the NetBackup for Oracle Admin
guide, it mentions that you can have multiple
schedules in the policy with different retention
periods. That is you can have a FULL backup schedule
with retention period of 1 year and an INCREMENTAL
backup schedule with retention of 1 month.

This may be new in NBU 6, but I remeber in NBU 5.x,
the retention period that was always used was that of
Default-Application-Backup schedule. 

So in my NBU 5.0 environment, I have ONE policy for
FULL Oracle backup with 1 year retention and ONE
Oracle policy for INCREMENTAL backups with 1 month
retention. Each policy has 2 schedules in it, one of
those is Default-Application-Backup schedule, both
schedule have same retntion period, i.e. for FULL
Backup policy retention period for both schedules is 1
year and for INCREMENTAL policy retention period for
both schedules is 1 month.

So my question is, is it the same behaviour in NBU 6.0
for Oracle and SQL backups, or it has changed.

THX


 

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[Veritas-bu] Storage unit number of drives

[Dave Markham]

Guys is there anyway to create a storage unit and use only a certain
number of drives?

Im Netbackup 5.0mp4 on sol9. I have 5 drives available in a L700 3 of
which are Shared SSO. I want to create a storage unit of 3 drives ( 1
shared and 2 not ) so that a network based job doesnt tie up 2 of the
shared drives and cause my media servers using SSO to fail. Im running
ITC so need 2 drives at a time.

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Re: [Veritas-bu] Netbackup 6.0 MP4 Testing

[Falk, Martin SZ/HZA-ITDS2]

Short Info to you all,

I upgraded 9 installations of Netabckup 6.0 MP3 to MP4.
I also upgraded NOM from MP2A to MP4.

For the Netbackup installations:

OS was AIX5.3 and Windows 200x - Master and Media Servers involved
NBU looks quiet stable to me, all of my major bugs seem to be fixed.

For NOM

NOM is working better, but there is still room for improvement.
The servers that are on MP 4 already behave better in NOM. The are online and 
it seems the partially online thing seems to be gone.
Alerts work smoothly. Reports are looking OK and are working well. There is 
room for improvement with the filter settings.

Did somebody of you did also MP4 testing?
Please share your results.

Regards

Martin

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Von: WEAVER, Simon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Gesendet: Dienstag, 21. November 2006 15:32
An: 'Bobby Williams'; Christian Sønder; Falk, Martin SZ/HZA-ITDS2; 
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Betreff: RE: Re: [Veritas-bu] Netbackup 6.0 MP4 Testing


Hi Bobby
Stands to reason really, as the 6.0 Database is completely re-written in a 
brand new format - so if anything, I would definetely have an offline copy of 
the catalog, tape catalog and probably a snapshot image of the Server as well.

Regards

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Windows Domain Administrator


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Sent: 21 November 2006 14:28
To: Christian Sønder; WEAVER, Simon; Falk, Martin SZ/HZA-ITDS2; 
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Subject: Re: Re: [Veritas-bu] Netbackup 6.0 MP4 Testing


According to the Tech notes, the only way to get back to 5.1 is to uninstall 
6.0, put back all 5.1 software and patches, then install the last 5.1 catalog 
backup.

In other words, you will loose all backups done with 6.0.  That may not be a 
good thing.

Bobby.






From: Christian Sønder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 2006/11/21 Tue AM 08:15:25 EST
To: "WEAVER, Simon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,

   "Falk, Martin  SZ/HZA-ITDS2" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,

   
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Netbackup 6.0 MP4 Testing

If u have the option of making a NEW server instead of upgrading an existing on 
- DO IT !!!

We have had, and still haves, some challanges after we upgraded - MP4 seems to 
have solved some of them

Best regards

Christian Sonder

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Emne: Re: [Veritas-bu] Netbackup 6.0 MP4 Testing


Martin / Ed / Guys
I am keen to get to know and hear if MP4 is trouble - free and resolves a lot 
of issues, especially for windows servers.

Still trying to decide if upgrading 5.1 is the best method, or maybe migrate 
over to a new Server?

Thanks

Regards

Simon Weaver
3rd Line Technical Support
Windows Domain Administrator


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-Original Message-
From: Falk, Martin SZ/HZA-ITDS2 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Sent: 21 November 2006 12:38
To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: [Veritas-bu] Netbackup 6.0 MP4 Testing


Hello all,

I am currently testing NBU 6.0 MP4 and NOM MP4.
Looks very good so far. Even NOM is getting better.
You can see that many bugs have disappeared.

Let's see what this week will bring.

Regards

Martin

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