[Veritas-bu] SSO configuration

2007-01-08 Thread Deiter Scott
 
Our new sun sl500 robot will contain 5 fiber connected tape drives along
with it's own fiber connection.
Currently we have four sun/solaris servers connected to the emc san one
of these is our master/media server
 
Our goal is to setup two of these as san media servers.
 
Do we need dedicated hba's on the media and master servers for the
connection to the robot or can we use the existing hba's that are used
for the san.
 
We are still searching the manuals for the correct config.
 

Scott Deiter
System Administrator
Hanover Direct, Inc.
Hanover, PA
Voice: 717-633-3298
Fax: 717-633-3101 

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Re: [Veritas-bu] Backup speeds Windows servers

2007-01-08 Thread Paul Keating
IBM 435?
 
I like the sound of thatI just bought a couple V40zs
 
Paul
 
 
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47 MB/sec for a windows SAN media server with SCSI attached
library with LTO2 drives. 
The rest ran at around 12-15 MB/sec on a 1GB network. Servers
were IBM 435s and SUN 
V40zs. BTW the SUNs made the IBMs look like 286s. 



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Re: [Veritas-bu] SSO configuration

2007-01-08 Thread Preston, Douglas L
You can share the HBA's that are connected to the san but create a
seperate zone for the master/media servers to the tape drives.  We have
an ADIC I2000 with 12 drives 700 slots 1 Master Server 4 San Media
Servers,  They share the same HBA's with the San.  We have seperate
zones for San and zones for the Adic.  Our netbackup servers are all
all Windows.

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Our new sun sl500 robot will contain 5 fiber connected tape drives along
with it's own fiber connection.
Currently we have four sun/solaris servers connected to the emc san one
of these is our master/media server
 
Our goal is to setup two of these as san media servers.
 
Do we need dedicated hba's on the media and master servers for the
connection to the robot or can we use the existing hba's that are used
for the san.
 
We are still searching the manuals for the correct config.
 

Scott Deiter
System Administrator
Hanover Direct, Inc.
Hanover, PA
Voice: 717-633-3298
Fax: 717-633-3101 

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Re: [Veritas-bu] Only getting 125GB on LTO2 Tape

2007-01-08 Thread WEAVER, Simon

Karl
What sort of Data was being written to the tape?
 
 

Regards

Simon Weaver
3rd Line Technical Support
Windows Domain Administrator 

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I'm having a case of the Mondays. On Friday i upgraded to MP4 from 6.0MP3.
The MP4 upgrade seems to have gone well. 

A backup this weekend only used 125GB of tape and then required a 2nd tape.
I should get closer to 200GB of data on an LTO2 tape. The tape positioned
itself to file 1. 

I'm wondering, why didn't more data get written to the LTO2 tape? 

Karl



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Re: [Veritas-bu] Only getting 125GB on LTO2 Tape

2007-01-08 Thread Karl . Rossing
Windows fileshare data. Word, excel, Visio, text and image file formats.

I'm currently writing to a different tape using the same drive. Maybe the 
fujifilm tape is the problem.




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Karl
What sort of Data was being written to the tape?
 
 
Regards
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I'm having a case of the Mondays. On Friday i upgraded to MP4 from 
6.0MP3. The MP4 upgrade seems to have gone well. 

A backup this weekend only used 125GB of tape and then required a 2nd 
tape. I should get closer to 200GB of data on an LTO2 tape. The tape 
positioned itself to file 1. 

I'm wondering, why didn't more data get written to the LTO2 tape? 

Karl
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Re: [Veritas-bu] Only getting 125GB on LTO2 Tape

2007-01-08 Thread Martin, Jonathan \(Contractor\)
I tell my management that anything more than the tape's native capacity
is gravy.  You are not even getting that.  So far my LTO3 compression
has been closer to 50% than the 100% the drives are advertised at.
Backing up mostly Oracle/RMAN Databases thus far and I'm getting just
better than 600GB a tape.  Your 125GB looks closer to LTO1 than LTO2.
Perhaps a driver issue?  Can you put a tape manually in the drive and
run test backups to it sans-Netbackup?  How about putting a tape in and
running some sort of drive management suite from the manufacturer to see
what it says?  You should AT LEAST get 200GB on an LTO2 tape.  That's
1:1 native capacity!
 
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I'm having a case of the Mondays. On Friday i upgraded to MP4 from
6.0MP3. The MP4 upgrade seems to have gone well. 

A backup this weekend only used 125GB of tape and then required a 2nd
tape. I should get closer to 200GB of data on an LTO2 tape. The tape
positioned itself to file 1. 

I'm wondering, why didn't more data get written to the LTO2 tape? 

Karl
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[Veritas-bu] Merging v5 and v6 Data

2007-01-08 Thread Esson, Paul
Folks,
 
I have a question regarding merging data from separate NetBackup
domains.
 
Does anybody know if you can import tapes from a v5.x system into a v6.x
system?
 
 
Regards,
 

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Redstor Limited 

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Re: [Veritas-bu] NetBackup Encryption

2007-01-08 Thread Pondy p

Hi Len,

Thank you for your response.

Btw, what will be the approximate cost for Netbackup encryption license per
client.

Regards,
Pondy

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 Good Day Pondy
I did not notice any change between netbackup 5 and 6  in performance for
the  encryption option.

The encryption option uses  large quantities of cpu on the client. If you
have a client with plenty of spare cpu, you should see no difference in the
backup speeds. But you will lose compression of the data at the tape drive
if you are using  the tape hardware to compress your data. We have not tried
software compression with the software encryption option.
If your client has little or no spare cpu cycles, you will see a slow down
in the backup speeds.

There is almost no management of the encryption keys with the netbackup
encryption feature. You have to make sure that if you want to restore data
to a client, that the key that was used to encrypt the data is installed on
the client. So if you have data from client A from nov last year and want to
restore it to client B. And you have data from client C from last jan that
you want to restore to client B. And you have data from client B  from
yesterday that you want to restore   to client B. You must have a keyfile
with keys that match all three sets of data. Note-  as  far as I know there
is only one active keyfile on the client and no  way to tell netbackup to
look at more then one keyfile when search for a matching key for a restore.

If this morning you had changed the key on client B and you plan to do a
backup on client B using the new key, you must make sure that this new key
is the  correct position in the keyfile. As the first key is the one used
for backups.

Unless your keyfiles for the different clients are all the same [And you
can do this by maintaining a keyfile on one client and copying it to other
clients] you must either do all the restores with a different keyfile
installed on the client, or build a new keyfile with all the keys installed.
With the current key installed last, even if it was already installed in the
keyfile.


len

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Hello,


We are looking to implement NetBackup Encryption in our setup.
I would like to know some details from the people whoever using it.

What is the performance impact in backup/restore while using NetBackup
encryption in 5.1 and 6.0?
Is there cost benefits to management?

Thanks in advance.

Pondy
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[Veritas-bu] Backing Up Exchange - Transaction Logs

2007-01-08 Thread Brooks, Jason
We've been backing up our Exchange 2K3 server for a while with NBU.
Sometime during last December, something happened that caused Exchange
to stop truncating the transaction log files.  Our initial suspicion was
that the Exchange DB was dirty or inconsistent.  We've restored a full
db backup to a Recovery Storage Group from 1/5.  It's clean.  So now,
though not definite, a dirty db doesn't look to be the case.  

Anyone else seen something like this before?  Suggestions from the NBU
end?  We pursued this on the Exchange end so far, and still are.  

Thanks,
Jason


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[Veritas-bu] Reports for archived data

2007-01-08 Thread Wooten, FH Frank @ IS
Is there anyway to run a report to see what data has been archived? I
dont know of a report out there but thought there might be a script
somewhere on the master. 
 
Thanks
 
Frank
 
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E-mail Server Group
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Re: [Veritas-bu] Only getting 125GB on LTO2 Tape

2007-01-08 Thread Curtis Preston
Just curious. Is the tape that's not full actually MARKED as full?  Or
is it just that NBU is choosing a second tape for other reasons
(database backup, different retention, etc)?

 

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VP Data Protection

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It could well be. My concern is that LTO2 should be at least 200GB and
400GB Compressed. so if you are getting nothing like that, its either
the tape, drive, drive configuration issue perhaps.

 

LTO3 offers 400GB / 800GB Compressed - LTO1 Is 100GB / 200GB compressed.

 

Can you definetely confirm its an LTO2 tape (sorry if it sounds silly to
ask, but it seems to be alot of wasted space if its LTO2).

 

Regards

Simon Weaver
3rd Line Technical Support
Windows Domain Administrator 

EADS Astrium Limited, B23AA IM (DCS)
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Windows fileshare data. Word, excel, Visio, text and image file
formats. 

I'm currently writing to a different tape using the same drive.
Maybe the fujifilm tape is the problem. 




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Karl 
What sort of Data was being written to the tape? 
  
  

Regards 

Simon Weaver
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Windows Domain Administrator 

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Anchorage Road, Portsmouth, PO3 5PU 

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I'm having a case of the Mondays. On Friday i upgraded to MP4
from 6.0MP3. The MP4 upgrade seems to have gone well. 

A backup this weekend only used 125GB of tape and then required
a 2nd tape. I should get closer to 200GB of data on an LTO2 tape. The
tape positioned itself to file 1. 

I'm wondering, why didn't more data get written to the LTO2
tape? 

Karl 

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Re: [Veritas-bu] Only getting 125GB on LTO2 Tape

2007-01-08 Thread Karl . Rossing
I applied the latest kernel patches on friday. went from -22 to -24. 
http://sunsolve.sun.com/search/document.do?assetkey=1-21-118833-24-1

When i upgraded to MP4, i also did not delete the sg driver and 
re-install. It said something to the effect The sg driver was not update, 
if you wish you can delete it and re-add it using the following commands

It's interesting that there is a firmware upgrade for the SUN L8
http://sunsolve.sun.com/search/advsearch.do?collection=PATCHtype=collectionsmax=50language=enqueryKey5=116622toDocument=yes
 
we have two L8 autoloaders.

I grabbed a new tape(Purple Ultirum 2) dropped it in the same drive(HP) 
and backed the system up.

I still got 125GB on one tape.

So I now expired the tape and are using the 2nd tape drive(HP) to rule out 
a drive problem.

What is weird is each drive backed up 400+GB of data on a single tape over 
the weekend. So two 400+GB tapes got written to. I just need to verify 
that tape abc got written by tld0 and tape xyz got written to by tld1.
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[Veritas-bu] Status 23 - Socket read fail

2007-01-08 Thread Kenneth W Wilkinson
Does any one know what Error bpbrm  could not write FILE ADDED message
to stderr is?  This doesn't happen on all backups.  It happens on one
particular exchange backup about every 3 or 4 days.  The job fails with
a 23 but this is what's in the details.

 

Master is Solaris 8.

NB5.1 MP3A

 

Kenneth

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Re: [Veritas-bu] Only getting 125GB on LTO2 Tape

2007-01-08 Thread Kenneth W Wilkinson
My 2 cents.  


I ran into this when I added my stkl700.  My master server is Solaris 8.
I was only getting a few mb on an lto3.  I patched the OS and it
resolved it.  Again, my 2 cents.

 

kww

 



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Just curious. Is the tape that's not full actually MARKED as full?  Or
is it just that NBU is choosing a second tape for other reasons
(database backup, different retention, etc)?

 

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W. Curtis Preston

Author of O'Reilly's Backup  Recovery and Using SANs and NAS

VP Data Protection

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It could well be. My concern is that LTO2 should be at least 200GB and
400GB Compressed. so if you are getting nothing like that, its either
the tape, drive, drive configuration issue perhaps.

 

LTO3 offers 400GB / 800GB Compressed - LTO1 Is 100GB / 200GB compressed.

 

Can you definetely confirm its an LTO2 tape (sorry if it sounds silly to
ask, but it seems to be alot of wasted space if its LTO2).

 

Regards

Simon Weaver
3rd Line Technical Support
Windows Domain Administrator 

EADS Astrium Limited, B23AA IM (DCS)
Anchorage Road, Portsmouth, PO3 5PU

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Windows fileshare data. Word, excel, Visio, text and image file
formats. 

I'm currently writing to a different tape using the same drive.
Maybe the fujifilm tape is the problem. 



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Karl 
What sort of Data was being written to the tape? 
  
  

Regards 

Simon Weaver
3rd Line Technical Support
Windows Domain Administrator 

EADS Astrium Limited, B23AA IM (DCS)
Anchorage Road, Portsmouth, PO3 5PU 

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I'm having a case of the Mondays. On Friday i upgraded to MP4
from 6.0MP3. The MP4 upgrade seems to have gone well. 

A backup this weekend only used 125GB of tape and then required
a 2nd tape. I should get closer to 200GB of data on an LTO2 tape. The
tape positioned itself to file 1. 

I'm wondering, why didn't more data get written to the LTO2
tape? 

Karl 

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Re: [Veritas-bu] Symantec ?!Support?!

2007-01-08 Thread Eagle, Kent
Patrick,

One additional benefit of opening the case via email support is that
when you get the confirmation email, you generally get a case number.

Having run the gauntlet of Veritas/Symantec Tech Support numerous times
in the past, I've learned to call support with the existing case
number in hand, and then have the call escalated if it's not moving
along at an appropriate pace.

One other item of irritation:
The View your Case option on the web site - Has anyone ever seen any
meaningful, or even remotely real time updates?


Kent Eagle
Systems Engineer, MCP, MCSE
Tech Services / SMSS
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Just my ?.02 worth. Unless it is absolutely critical, in which case I
will ask to be transferred immediately, I send an email from their web
site. This does many things:

1)   They get my email address right (unless I type it wrong) :-(

2)   They send an automated response that they received your email.

3)   When the engineer responds, you will have his email address.

4)   With an email you can explain technical aspects that the first
line support wouldn't understand.

5)   You have a written record of when you first contacted them
and all the subsequent contacts.

 

There are probably more good reasons, but that's just off the top of my
head. :-)

 

Regards,

 

Patrick Whelan 
NetBackup Specialist 
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[Veritas-bu] Exclusions

2007-01-08 Thread Martin, Jonathan \(Contractor\)
I'm trying to figure out how to exclude a certain file suffix from all
backups on a certain Linux/Unix client.  Say *.mp3.  In testing,
creating *.mp3 doesn't work, nor does /*.mp3.  I think the only way to
make this work (and I think its kind of silly) is to say
 
/*.mp3
/*/*.mp3
/*/*/*.mp3
/*/*/*/*.mp3
/*/*/*/*/*.mp3
/*/*/*/*/*/*.mp3
/*/*/*/*/*/*/*.mp3
/*/*/*/*/*/*/*/*.mp3
/*/*/*/*/*/*/*/*/*.mp3
/*/*/*/*/*/*/*/*/*/*.mp3
/*/*/*/*/*/*/*/*/*/*/*.mp3
/*/*/*/*/*/*/*/*/*/*/*/*.mp3
 
 
etc...
 
Any better ideas?
 
-Jonathan
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Re: [Veritas-bu] SSO configuration

2007-01-08 Thread Ed Wilts
On 1/8/2007 7:58 AM, Deiter Scott wrote:
 Our new sun sl500 robot will contain 5 fiber connected tape drives along 
 with it's own fiber connection.
 Currently we have four sun/solaris servers connected to the emc san one 
 of these is our master/media server
  
 Our goal is to setup two of these as san media servers.
  
 Do we need dedicated hba's on the media and master servers for the 
 connection to the robot or can we use the existing hba's that are used 
 for the san.

Need?  No.  You can share disk and tape with the same HBAs.
Want?  Yes.  Ideally, you would separate your disk and tape traffic. 
However, this is definitely not a requirement - we still don't have 
separate HBAs for our master server (although the media servers do) and 
the master does a lot of DSSU and tape traffic traffic over the same 
HBAs.  It works.

 We are still searching the manuals for the correct config.

It's a best practise to separate disk and tape traffic, not a 
requirement, so it depends on your definition of correct config...

.../Ed


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Re: [Veritas-bu] NetBackup Encryption

2007-01-08 Thread Ed Wilts
On 1/8/2007 10:44 AM, Pondy p wrote:
 Btw, what will be the approximate cost for Netbackup encryption license 
 per client.

A quick check on the *public* insight.com web site shows it at $433 per 
client: 
http://insight.com/site/product/detail/index.cfm?item_number=A12961C%2D00

.../Ed

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