Re: [Veritas-bu] Do you know if NetBackup supports Exchange 2007
Kathy I raised this with the Symantec Engineer 2 months back, and at that time, no version of NBU or Maintenance Pack supported 2007! I also found this http://support.veritas.com/docs/279048 My guess is, 6.5 clearly will, and other versions will require a MP ! Regards Simon Weaver 3rd Line Technical Support Windows Domain Administrator EADS Astrium Limited, B23AA IM (DCS) Anchorage Road, Portsmouth, PO3 5PU Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Kathy Falakfarsa [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 04 April 2007 19:33 To: Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: [Veritas-bu] Do you know if NetBackup supports Exchange 2007 Hello, Does anyone know if NetBackup will support with Exchange 2007. We are installing a new Exchange 2007 and I want to make sure I can back it up. Thanks K ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu This email (including any attachments) may contain confidential and/or privileged information or information otherwise protected from disclosure. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately, do not copy this message or any attachments and do not use it for any purpose or disclose its content to any person, but delete this message and any attachments from your system. Astrium disclaims any and all liability if this email transmission was virus corrupted, altered or falsified. - Astrium Limited, Registered in England and Wales No. 2449259 Registered Office: Gunnels Wood Road, Stevenage, Hertfordshire, SG1 2AS, England ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
[Veritas-bu] NDMP Backup on NBU 6.0 MP4
Hi, I have just done a new install of Netbackup 6 with MP4 on a Solaris 10 machine. My windows and Solaris backups are all working great but I am stumped on trying to get NDMP working. We have been using NDMP for years on 5.1 and before that with 4.5 without any problem. The license is in place, the NDMP hosts are defined and (as far as I can tell) authenticate correctly. The backup job starts but after mounting a tape fails with a status code 25. The job details are shown below. 04/04/2007 15:53:34 - requesting resource guinness-8mm-robot-tl8-0 04/04/2007 15:53:34 - requesting resource guinness.NBU_CLIENT.MAXJOBS.thoth.backup2.sfu.ca 04/04/2007 15:53:34 - requesting resource guinness.NBU_POLICY.MAXJOBS.NDMP-Thoth 04/04/2007 15:53:34 - granted resource guinness.NBU_CLIENT.MAXJOBS.thoth.backup2.sfu.ca 04/04/2007 15:53:34 - granted resource guinness.NBU_POLICY.MAXJOBS.NDMP-Thoth 04/04/2007 15:53:34 - granted resource ADM234 04/04/2007 15:53:34 - granted resource SDX-1100-1 04/04/2007 15:53:34 - granted resource guinness-8mm-robot-tl8-0 04/04/2007 15:53:35 - started process bpbrm (pid=8998) 04/04/2007 15:53:35 - connecting 04/04/2007 15:53:35 - connected; connect time: 0:00:00 04/04/2007 15:53:38 - mounting ADM234 04/04/2007 15:54:21 - mounted ADM234; mount time: 0:00:43 04/04/2007 15:54:21 - positioning ADM234 to file 1 04/04/2007 15:54:37 - Critical bpbrm (pid=8998) unexpected termination of client thoth.backup2.sfu.ca 04/04/2007 12:54:24 - Error bptm (pid=4072) Timeout waiting for connected message from NDMP server 04/04/2007 12:54:22 - positioned ADM235; position time: 0:02:32 04/04/2007 12:54:22 - begin writing 04/04/2007 12:54:24 - end writing; write time: 0:00:02 cannot connect on socket (25) I cranked logging up to 5, and the status code changed from 25 to 50 but not much else changed. Logs I checked did not seem to shed any further light. The coupe lines below were all that changed on the job detail status window. 04/04/2007 15:56:51 - Error bptm (pid=9004) media manager terminated by parent process 04/04/2007 15:56:52 - end writing client process aborted (50) Any one have some bright ideas what else to check/try/look at? Thanks. Randy --- Randy Raine | Voice: (604) 291-4447 Operations Technical Support | Fax:(604) 291-4242 Simon Fraser University | E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Burnaby, B.C. V5A 1S6 | Web:http://www.sfu.ca/ots ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
[Veritas-bu] Methods to Backup SQL 2005 mirror
Hi, Is anyone out there using the NetBackup SQL agent to back up a SQL 2005 mirror (with witness server)? I have been asked to test this and am unsure of the best way to proceed i.e. do I need to install the agent on both servers (principal and mirror) and back both up nightly or do I just back up the principal? There appears to be little info in the documentation and my SQL knowledge is limited so I'm unsure of the best way to proceed. Thanks in advance, Steve. __ This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email _ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] NDMP Backup on NBU 6.0 MP4
Interesting. Did you patch NDMP as well? It's a separate patch. But I'm having similar troubles after going from MP3 - MP4 this week with a Mirapoint Mail appliance. Wish me luck - I'm calling support. Jason -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Randy Raine Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2007 3:50 AM To: Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: [Veritas-bu] NDMP Backup on NBU 6.0 MP4 Hi, I have just done a new install of Netbackup 6 with MP4 on a Solaris 10 machine. My windows and Solaris backups are all working great but I am stumped on trying to get NDMP working. We have been using NDMP for years on 5.1 and before that with 4.5 without any problem. The license is in place, the NDMP hosts are defined and (as far as I can tell) authenticate correctly. The backup job starts but after mounting a tape fails with a status code 25. The job details are shown below. 04/04/2007 15:53:34 - requesting resource guinness-8mm-robot-tl8-0 04/04/2007 15:53:34 - requesting resource guinness.NBU_CLIENT.MAXJOBS.thoth.backup2.sfu.ca 04/04/2007 15:53:34 - requesting resource guinness.NBU_POLICY.MAXJOBS.NDMP-Thoth 04/04/2007 15:53:34 - granted resource guinness.NBU_CLIENT.MAXJOBS.thoth.backup2.sfu.ca 04/04/2007 15:53:34 - granted resource guinness.NBU_POLICY.MAXJOBS.NDMP-Thoth 04/04/2007 15:53:34 - granted resource ADM234 04/04/2007 15:53:34 - granted resource SDX-1100-1 04/04/2007 15:53:34 - granted resource guinness-8mm-robot-tl8-0 04/04/2007 15:53:35 - started process bpbrm (pid=8998) 04/04/2007 15:53:35 - connecting 04/04/2007 15:53:35 - connected; connect time: 0:00:00 04/04/2007 15:53:38 - mounting ADM234 04/04/2007 15:54:21 - mounted ADM234; mount time: 0:00:43 04/04/2007 15:54:21 - positioning ADM234 to file 1 04/04/2007 15:54:37 - Critical bpbrm (pid=8998) unexpected termination of client thoth.backup2.sfu.ca 04/04/2007 12:54:24 - Error bptm (pid=4072) Timeout waiting for connected message from NDMP server 04/04/2007 12:54:22 - positioned ADM235; position time: 0:02:32 04/04/2007 12:54:22 - begin writing 04/04/2007 12:54:24 - end writing; write time: 0:00:02 cannot connect on socket (25) I cranked logging up to 5, and the status code changed from 25 to 50 but not much else changed. Logs I checked did not seem to shed any further light. The coupe lines below were all that changed on the job detail status window. 04/04/2007 15:56:51 - Error bptm (pid=9004) media manager terminated by parent process 04/04/2007 15:56:52 - end writing client process aborted (50) Any one have some bright ideas what else to check/try/look at? Thanks. Randy --- Randy Raine | Voice: (604) 291-4447 Operations Technical Support | Fax:(604) 291-4242 Simon Fraser University | E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Burnaby, B.C. V5A 1S6 | Web:http://www.sfu.ca/ots ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Methods to Backup SQL 2005 mirror
Steve Well I backup sql2005 as a cluster. Agent is installed on 2 nodes, backup configured as a Virtual Name. I basically followed the sql agent documentation and through trial and error got it working, using Windows authentication (once the account was configured within sql to allow backups to be done!). Regards Simon Weaver 3rd Line Technical Support Windows Domain Administrator EADS Astrium Limited, B23AA IM (DCS) Anchorage Road, Portsmouth, PO3 5PU Email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Jenner, Steven [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 05 April 2007 12:00 To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: [Veritas-bu] Methods to Backup SQL 2005 mirror Hi, Is anyone out there using the NetBackup SQL agent to back up a SQL 2005 mirror (with witness server)? I have been asked to test this and am unsure of the best way to proceed i.e. do I need to install the agent on both servers (principal and mirror) and back both up nightly or do I just back up the principal? There appears to be little info in the documentation and my SQL knowledge is limited so I'm unsure of the best way to proceed. Thanks in advance, Steve. __ This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email __ This email (including any attachments) may contain confidential and/or privileged information or information otherwise protected from disclosure. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately, do not copy this message or any attachments and do not use it for any purpose or disclose its content to any person, but delete this message and any attachments from your system. Astrium disclaims any and all liability if this email transmission was virus corrupted, altered or falsified. - Astrium Limited, Registered in England and Wales No. 2449259 Registered Office: Gunnels Wood Road, Stevenage, Hertfordshire, SG1 2AS, England___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Preventing Media Expiration when doing a Catalog
I think i ran into a bug with /usr/openv/netbackup/bin/NOexpire or the catalog restore. I tried to re-import the catalog tape of that were expired but the images did not show up. The images and catalog i'm looking for are 3 weeks old while the retention is 2 weeks. So NOexpire either doesn't work or I think the netbackupDB was possibly re-applying the transaction logs after the restore. I restored a 1 week old catalog/images and i can see them fine. I'll find out in about 1 week if NOexpire works. I'm not sure if i'm going to place a service call with Symantec about this or not, it depends on how much time i have to log everything they need. Karl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 04/04/2007 10:37:20 AM: We are restoring a catalog tape to our dv environment(same server name). The catalog db seems to be expiring the images we are testing with since time has progressed past the expiry time. Is there a way to tell the catalog db to not expire any images? I came across this information in the past and wrote it down, but I am not sure how well it works. But reportedly touching /usr/openv/netbackup/bin/NOexpire will tell netbackup to not perform any expiration. I figure it's good for a decommissioned or DR server that is not actually performing any active backups and doesn't need the space. -- Darren Dunham [EMAIL PROTECTED] Senior Technical Consultant TAOShttp://www.taos.com/ Got some Dr Pepper? San Francisco, CA bay area This line left intentionally blank to confuse you. ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Methods to Backup SQL 2005 mirror
Hi Simon, Yeh I'm also backing up a SQL2005 cluster but am unsure how to proceed with regard to a mirror installation. Obviously in a mirror setup there is only one 'live' db but depending on whether it has failed over it could be node A or node B. Therefore should I back up both nodes and therefore purchase two agent licenses or do I only backup the one 'live' DB and switch the backup over if the solution fails over? Cheers, Steve. _ From: WEAVER, Simon (external) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 05 April 2007 14:46 To: Jenner, Steven; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] Methods to Backup SQL 2005 mirror Steve Well I backup sql2005 as a cluster. Agent is installed on 2 nodes, backup configured as a Virtual Name. I basically followed the sql agent documentation and through trial and error got it working, using Windows authentication (once the account was configured within sql to allow backups to be done!). Regards Simon Weaver 3rd Line Technical Support Windows Domain Administrator EADS Astrium Limited, B23AA IM (DCS) Anchorage Road, Portsmouth, PO3 5PU Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Jenner, Steven [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 05 April 2007 12:00 To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: [Veritas-bu] Methods to Backup SQL 2005 mirror Hi, Is anyone out there using the NetBackup SQL agent to back up a SQL 2005 mirror (with witness server)? I have been asked to test this and am unsure of the best way to proceed i.e. do I need to install the agent on both servers (principal and mirror) and back both up nightly or do I just back up the principal? There appears to be little info in the documentation and my SQL knowledge is limited so I'm unsure of the best way to proceed. Thanks in advance, Steve. __ This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email __ This email (including any attachments) may contain confidential and/or privileged information or information otherwise protected from disclosure. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately, do not copy this message or any attachments and do not use it for any purpose or disclose its content to any person, but delete this message and any attachments from your system. Astrium disclaims any and all liability if this email transmission was virus corrupted, altered or falsified. - Astrium Limited, Registered in England and Wales No. 2449259 Registered Office: Gunnels Wood Road, Stevenage, Hertfordshire, SG1 2AS, England __ This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email _ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Preventing Media Expiration when doing a Catalog
NOexpire prevents the expiration of images, and not media ; media will still expire. Touching that will cause inconsistencies in your database and give you a slew of other problems down the road. it causes more problems than anything. The best option to not expire images is to either freeze the media that they're on, or use bpexpdate -recalculate to recalculate a new expiration date of infinity, or for however long you wish for the images to hang around. - Original Message - From: Karl Rossing [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Sent: Thursday, April 5, 2007 10:26:22 AM (GMT-0600) America/Chicago Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Preventing Media Expiration when doing a Catalog I think i ran into a bug with /usr/openv/netbackup/bin/NOexpire or the catalog restore. I tried to re-import the catalog tape of that were expired but the images did not show up. The images and catalog i'm looking for are 3 weeks old while the retention is 2 weeks. So NOexpire either doesn't work or I think the netbackupDB was possibly re-applying the transaction logs after the restore. I restored a 1 week old catalog/images and i can see them fine. I'll find out in about 1 week if NOexpire works. I'm not sure if i'm going to place a service call with Symantec about this or not, it depends on how much time i have to log everything they need. Karl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 04/04/2007 10:37:20 AM: We are restoring a catalog tape to our dv environment(same server name). The catalog db seems to be expiring the images we are testing with since time has progressed past the expiry time. Is there a way to tell the catalog db to not expire any images? I came across this information in the past and wrote it down, but I am not sure how well it works. But reportedly touching /usr/openv/netbackup/bin/NOexpire will tell netbackup to not perform any expiration. I figure it's good for a decommissioned or DR server that is not actually performing any active backups and doesn't need the space. -- Darren Dunham [EMAIL PROTECTED] Senior Technical Consultant TAOS http://www.taos.com/ Got some Dr Pepper? San Francisco, CA bay area This line left intentionally blank to confuse you. ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Methods to Backup SQL 2005 mirror
Good shot Simon, but I think this is a data mirror (as opposed to cluster?) In that case, they have a SQL server configured to instantly replicate any changes of a database to another SQL server that is not attached to the same physical storage. The mirror is more than likely read only. The last time I had a configuration similar to this we backed up both. I don't think you need to through. Its a fairly strait forward process should the live data server go down, to move that database back or make the read only copy live. I haven't played with SQL 2005 but I managed several databases like this with SQL 2000. Generally speaking we used data mirrors to take processes with high loads (huge queries, backups etc) off the production server. -Jonathan From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Jenner, Steven Sent: Thu 4/5/2007 11:34 AM To: WEAVER, Simon (external); veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Methods to Backup SQL 2005 mirror Hi Simon, Yeh I'm also backing up a SQL2005 cluster but am unsure how to proceed with regard to a mirror installation. Obviously in a mirror setup there is only one 'live' db but depending on whether it has failed over it could be node A or node B. Therefore should I back up both nodes and therefore purchase two agent licenses or do I only backup the one 'live' DB and switch the backup over if the solution fails over? Cheers, Steve. From: WEAVER, Simon (external) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 05 April 2007 14:46 To: Jenner, Steven; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] Methods to Backup SQL 2005 mirror Steve Well I backup sql2005 as a cluster. Agent is installed on 2 nodes, backup configured as a Virtual Name. I basically followed the sql agent documentation and through trial and error got it working, using Windows authentication (once the account was configured within sql to allow backups to be done!). Regards Simon Weaver 3rd Line Technical Support Windows Domain Administrator EADS Astrium Limited, B23AA IM (DCS) Anchorage Road, Portsmouth, PO3 5PU Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Jenner, Steven [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 05 April 2007 12:00 To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: [Veritas-bu] Methods to Backup SQL 2005 mirror Hi, Is anyone out there using the NetBackup SQL agent to back up a SQL 2005 mirror (with witness server)? I have been asked to test this and am unsure of the best way to proceed i.e. do I need to install the agent on both servers (principal and mirror) and back both up nightly or do I just back up the principal? There appears to be little info in the documentation and my SQL knowledge is limited so I'm unsure of the best way to proceed. Thanks in advance, Steve. __ This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email __ __ This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email __ This email (including any attachments) may contain confidential and/or privileged information or information otherwise protected from disclosure. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately, do not copy this message or any attachments and do not use it for any purpose or disclose its content to any person, but delete this message and any attachments from your system. Astrium disclaims any and all liability if this email transmission was virus corrupted, altered or falsified. - Astrium Limited, Registered in England and Wales No. 2449259 Registered Office: Gunnels Wood Road, Stevenage, Hertfordshire, SG1 2AS, England ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
[Veritas-bu] Question about exclude/include lists for Windows 2000/2003
We use ALL_LOCAL_DRIVES in our backup policies, which can cause some problems with a few clients who have some very large drives that take a very long time to backup. Sometimes these jobs will stay in a queued state and go active towards the end of their backup window, which usually requires us to cancel them. My thoughts on a solution to the problem is to create a separate priority policy for the clients who take a long amount of time to backup so they start right away, then have a separate policy that starts an hour or so later for those jobs that don't take as long. This way we ensure that our longest running jobs start at the beginning of the backup window. I'd like to setup the policy to only backup the drives that take the longest, rather than all the drives, to ensure those jobs always start (there are only about a dozen or so). However because the drives are different on each client I don't want to create separate policies (unless it would be easier to administer) for each client. I was thinking of creating a series of exclude/include lists for the dozen or so clients. For example: client1: priority_policy - exclude ALL_LOCAL_DRIVES, include J:\ normal_policy - exclude J:\ client2: priority_policy - exclude ALL_LOCAL_DRIVES, include X:\ normal_policy - exclude X:\ This way the job for the J:\ or X:\ drive on the client starts immediately under the priority_policy and later the other drives, which don't take as long, will be backed up under the normal_policy. Would this work? Or am I going about this the wrong way? I also plan to set the job priority on the priority_policy higher to ensure these jobs start as soon as resources are available. Jason Ellis Technical Consultant, Data Protection Team IndyMac Bank, La Mirada Datacenter Phone: (714) 520-3414 Mobile: (714) 889-8734 ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
[Veritas-bu] Job Priority
A quick question about Job Priority: I assume that Job Priority is relative, so if I where to set all the jobs to a priority of 25 they would be treated the same? The idea is to create a baseline, which allows me to setup some lower priority policies by specifying a lower job priority and conversely higher priority policies with a higher job priority. Thank you in advanced! Jason Ellis Technical Consultant, Data Protection Team IndyMac Bank, La Mirada Datacenter Phone: (714) 520-3414 Mobile: (714) 889-8734 ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Migration Help from 5.1 to 6.0 policy configuration
I have done the same, make sure services/etc are stopped on both sides before you do this :) On 4/4/07, Darren Dunham [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I need some urgent help to do policy migration from 5.1 master server to 6.0 master server. I only need the policy information and nothing else. Additionally this is on very tight deadline and I need an answer. I would like to do my own research and I usually do, but do not have the time. So if anybody has quick and dirty way to do this please let me know as soon as you can. I've copied /usr/openv/netbackup/db/class/* from a 5.1 machine to a new 6.0 machine. I don't know if it's supported, but it worked :-) -- Darren Dunham [EMAIL PROTECTED] Senior Technical Consultant TAOShttp://www.taos.com/ Got some Dr Pepper? San Francisco, CA bay area This line left intentionally blank to confuse you. ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] DataDomain and Netbackup
I have not really played with disk-staging with the DDRs; however, I have used disk staging under 5.1MP4 and 6.0MP2/3, and suffice to say, its not great. I have spoken to the 'important' folks at Symantec and they have plans to multi-stream off disk to tape from a disk staging unit, when this happens, it should be good. However, staging off a fast RAID10 or RAID5 only gave 30-35MB/s when bleeding off to tape. Justin. On 4/3/07, Brandon Zermeno [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Do you do any migration of the data to tape? If you are how is that working? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Justin Piszcz Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2007 4:58 AM To: Tom Burrell Cc: Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] DataDomain and Netbackup Comments are below: On Mon, 2 Apr 2007, Tom Burrell wrote: Where do I start? What kind of compression do you see? The compression is really strange, these rates are based upon 100-200GB of actual data from a Windows server, but it only shows up as 30GB or so: ddr# df -h Resource Size GB Used GB Avail GB Use% --- --- --- /ddvar 29.5 0.8 27.2 3% Pre-compression - 448.6 - - Data 3857.6 11.4 3846.1 0% If 100% cleaned*3857.6 11.4 3846.1 0% Meta-data19.4 0.0 18.3 0% Index 181.5 3.9 177.6 2% --- --- --- Estimated compression factor*: 29.2x = 448.6/(11.4+0.0+3.9) * Estimate based on 2007/04/03 cleaning ddr# How does the performance compare to tape/other disk in your environment? The DDR units we have are older models, they use some sort of proprietary RAID-6 technology so if you run one stream you will see 20-30MB/s but if you run more than one, well, you will see 5-8MB/s on each stream. Are you using an appliance, or a gateway unit? If a gateway, what do you have behind it for disk? I am using an DDR unit for disk backups, it has several disks and cost a bunch :) Do you replicate between units? DR or Remote Office backup? You can, but it won't help with NetBackup catalogs :) ddr# help replication NAME replication - Manage the Replicator for replication of data from one restorer to another. SYNOPSIS replication add source hostname destination destination replication break destination I currently do not use replication. How does the replication do on bandwidth? I believe it only rsyncs the blocks that have changed every 5 minutes if I remember correctly(?) How has the support experience been for you? How is the reliability in your opinion? We do not POUND the DDR units to the ground; but, overall they are nice to have to use as DSU's to backup hosts with many files or slow links, that way it saves our tapes from shoe shining. Justin. That should start you off. I'll stop and take a breath now. Tom Burrell --- Justin Piszcz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I use DDR units on a daily basis and have tested their VTL option, what are your questions? On Mon, 2 Apr 2007, Tom Burrell wrote: Anyone out there have some experiences they would like to share using DataDomain appliances as Disk Storage/Staging units behind Netbackup? Esp. in a DR scenario (replicating between sites)? We are considering a number of options, and at least on paper this one looks pretty interesting and I'm hearing good anecdotal evidence locally. Plans are being formed for a proof-of-concept on this, but I was wondering if anyone else has tried this route recently. Tom Burrell Now that's room service! Choose from over 150,000 hotels in 45,000 destinations on Yahoo! Travel to find your fit. http://farechase.yahoo.com/promo-generic-14795097 ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu TV dinner still cooling? Check out Tonight's Picks on Yahoo! TV. http://tv.yahoo.com/ ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This email may contain confidential and privileged material for the sole use of the intended recipient(s). Any review, use, distribution or disclosure by others is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify the sender immediately by
Re: [Veritas-bu] Job Priority
? The polices with higher job priority should execute/write to tape first. Justin. On 4/5/07, Ellis, Jason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A quick question about Job Priority: I assume that Job Priority is relative, so if I where to set all the jobs to a priority of 25 they would be treated the same? The idea is to create a baseline, which allows me to setup some lower priority policies by specifying a lower job priority and conversely higher priority policies with a higher job priority. Thank you in advanced! Jason Ellis Technical Consultant, Data Protection Team IndyMac Bank, La Mirada Datacenter Phone: (714) 520-3414 Mobile: (714) 889-8734 ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Job Priority
True - however it is also time based. Time wins the priority battle. A job with a priority of 5 scheduled at 10 PM would run before a job with a priority of 25 scheduled at 11 PM (assuming there were no resources available between 10-11 PM). From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ellis, Jason Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2007 1:23 PM To: nbu Subject: [Veritas-bu] Job Priority A quick question about Job Priority: I assume that Job Priority is relative, so if I where to set all the jobs to a priority of 25 they would be treated the same? The idea is to create a baseline, which allows me to setup some lower priority policies by specifying a lower job priority and conversely higher priority policies with a higher job priority. Thank you in advanced! Jason Ellis Technical Consultant, Data Protection Team IndyMac Bank, La Mirada Datacenter Phone: (714) 520-3414 Mobile: (714) 889-8734 /prefont face=ArialThis e-mail and any attachments may contain confidential information of Northwestern Mutual. If you are not the intended recipient of this message, be aware that any disclosure, copying, distribution or use of this e-mail and any attachments is prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify Northwestern Mutual immediately by returning it to the sender and delete all copies from your system. Please be advised that communications received via the Northwestern Mutual Secure Message Center are secure. Communications that are not received via the Northwestern Mutual Secure Message Center may not be secure and could be observed by a third party. Thank you for your cooperation./fontpre ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Job Priority
Good point, then again there are also jobs being available based upon the level of multiplexing being used (unless you write multiple retention levels to the same tape)-- there are a lot of factors to take into account. What level of MPX do you have set on the STU? How many streams are feeding into it? Are they part of different policies? .. etc On 4/5/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: True - however it is also time based. Time wins the priority battle. A job with a priority of 5 scheduled at 10 PM would run before a job with a priority of 25 scheduled at 11 PM (assuming there were no resources available between 10-11 PM). From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ellis, Jason Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2007 1:23 PM To: nbu Subject: [Veritas-bu] Job Priority A quick question about Job Priority: I assume that Job Priority is relative, so if I where to set all the jobs to a priority of 25 they would be treated the same? The idea is to create a baseline, which allows me to setup some lower priority policies by specifying a lower job priority and conversely higher priority policies with a higher job priority. Thank you in advanced! Jason Ellis Technical Consultant, Data Protection Team IndyMac Bank, La Mirada Datacenter Phone: (714) 520-3414 Mobile: (714) 889-8734 This e-mail and any attachments may contain confidential information of Northwestern Mutual. If you are not the intended recipient of this message, be aware that any disclosure, copying, distribution or use of this e-mail and any attachments is prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify Northwestern Mutual immediately by returning it to the sender and delete all copies from your system. Please be advised that communications received via the Northwestern Mutual Secure Message Center are secure. Communications that are not received via the Northwestern Mutual Secure Message Center may not be secure and could be observed by a third party. Thank you for your cooperation. ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Job Priority
Should read level of retention used. On 4/5/07, Justin Piszcz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Good point, then again there are also jobs being available based upon the level of multiplexing being used (unless you write multiple retention levels to the same tape)-- there are a lot of factors to take into account. What level of MPX do you have set on the STU? How many streams are feeding into it? Are they part of different policies? .. etc On 4/5/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: True - however it is also time based. Time wins the priority battle. A job with a priority of 5 scheduled at 10 PM would run before a job with a priority of 25 scheduled at 11 PM (assuming there were no resources available between 10-11 PM). From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ellis, Jason Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2007 1:23 PM To: nbu Subject: [Veritas-bu] Job Priority A quick question about Job Priority: I assume that Job Priority is relative, so if I where to set all the jobs to a priority of 25 they would be treated the same? The idea is to create a baseline, which allows me to setup some lower priority policies by specifying a lower job priority and conversely higher priority policies with a higher job priority. Thank you in advanced! Jason Ellis Technical Consultant, Data Protection Team IndyMac Bank, La Mirada Datacenter Phone: (714) 520-3414 Mobile: (714) 889-8734 This e-mail and any attachments may contain confidential information of Northwestern Mutual. If you are not the intended recipient of this message, be aware that any disclosure, copying, distribution or use of this e-mail and any attachments is prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify Northwestern Mutual immediately by returning it to the sender and delete all copies from your system. Please be advised that communications received via the Northwestern Mutual Secure Message Center are secure. Communications that are not received via the Northwestern Mutual Secure Message Center may not be secure and could be observed by a third party. Thank you for your cooperation. ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
[Veritas-bu] SOLVED: RE: NDMP Backup on NBU 6.0 MP4
Just to update all who helped. Thanks to a symantec reader, we found the fix. For some reason, the timeout setting on the Linux Media server suddenly made a difference with the MP4 install. Upped it and all is well. Jason -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brooks, Jason Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2007 9:31 AM To: Randy Raine; Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] NDMP Backup on NBU 6.0 MP4 Interesting. Did you patch NDMP as well? It's a separate patch. But I'm having similar troubles after going from MP3 - MP4 this week with a Mirapoint Mail appliance. Wish me luck - I'm calling support. Jason -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Randy Raine Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2007 3:50 AM To: Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: [Veritas-bu] NDMP Backup on NBU 6.0 MP4 Hi, I have just done a new install of Netbackup 6 with MP4 on a Solaris 10 machine. My windows and Solaris backups are all working great but I am stumped on trying to get NDMP working. We have been using NDMP for years on 5.1 and before that with 4.5 without any problem. The license is in place, the NDMP hosts are defined and (as far as I can tell) authenticate correctly. The backup job starts but after mounting a tape fails with a status code 25. The job details are shown below. 04/04/2007 15:53:34 - requesting resource guinness-8mm-robot-tl8-0 04/04/2007 15:53:34 - requesting resource guinness.NBU_CLIENT.MAXJOBS.thoth.backup2.sfu.ca 04/04/2007 15:53:34 - requesting resource guinness.NBU_POLICY.MAXJOBS.NDMP-Thoth 04/04/2007 15:53:34 - granted resource guinness.NBU_CLIENT.MAXJOBS.thoth.backup2.sfu.ca 04/04/2007 15:53:34 - granted resource guinness.NBU_POLICY.MAXJOBS.NDMP-Thoth 04/04/2007 15:53:34 - granted resource ADM234 04/04/2007 15:53:34 - granted resource SDX-1100-1 04/04/2007 15:53:34 - granted resource guinness-8mm-robot-tl8-0 04/04/2007 15:53:35 - started process bpbrm (pid=8998) 04/04/2007 15:53:35 - connecting 04/04/2007 15:53:35 - connected; connect time: 0:00:00 04/04/2007 15:53:38 - mounting ADM234 04/04/2007 15:54:21 - mounted ADM234; mount time: 0:00:43 04/04/2007 15:54:21 - positioning ADM234 to file 1 04/04/2007 15:54:37 - Critical bpbrm (pid=8998) unexpected termination of client thoth.backup2.sfu.ca 04/04/2007 12:54:24 - Error bptm (pid=4072) Timeout waiting for connected message from NDMP server 04/04/2007 12:54:22 - positioned ADM235; position time: 0:02:32 04/04/2007 12:54:22 - begin writing 04/04/2007 12:54:24 - end writing; write time: 0:00:02 cannot connect on socket (25) I cranked logging up to 5, and the status code changed from 25 to 50 but not much else changed. Logs I checked did not seem to shed any further light. The coupe lines below were all that changed on the job detail status window. 04/04/2007 15:56:51 - Error bptm (pid=9004) media manager terminated by parent process 04/04/2007 15:56:52 - end writing client process aborted (50) Any one have some bright ideas what else to check/try/look at? Thanks. Randy --- Randy Raine | Voice: (604) 291-4447 Operations Technical Support | Fax:(604) 291-4242 Simon Fraser University | E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Burnaby, B.C. V5A 1S6 | Web:http://www.sfu.ca/ots ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Job Priority
True, time does determine when a job will start regardless of priority. But assume you have queued jobs waiting for resources and you kick off a new policy with a higher job priority, these newly queued jobs will go active before the other queued jobs that have a lower priority. This is the behavior we see today in our environment. My question was simply if job priority was relative, so if two different policies had a job priority of 10 and where started at the same time then they would be treated the same. Part of the reason we want to do this is because we have some low priority development clients that if they get a backup great, otherwise if they don't we're not going to worry. I want to set a baseline and then setup these policies below the baseline, so if we have the resources the backups occur. It's too bad you can't setup dynamic job priority, i.e. if your last successful backup was 24 hours it has a priority of X, if the last successful backup was 48 hours ago it has a priority of Y, etc. Jason Ellis Technical Consultant, Data Protection Team IndyMac Bank, La Mirada Datacenter Phone: (714) 520-3414 Mobile: (714) 889-8734 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2007 12:27 PM To: Ellis, Jason; Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] Job Priority True - however it is also time based. Time wins the priority battle. A job with a priority of 5 scheduled at 10 PM would run before a job with a priority of 25 scheduled at 11 PM (assuming there were no resources available between 10-11 PM). From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ellis, Jason Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2007 1:23 PM To: nbu Subject: [Veritas-bu] Job Priority A quick question about Job Priority: I assume that Job Priority is relative, so if I where to set all the jobs to a priority of 25 they would be treated the same? The idea is to create a baseline, which allows me to setup some lower priority policies by specifying a lower job priority and conversely higher priority policies with a higher job priority. Thank you in advanced! Jason Ellis Technical Consultant, Data Protection Team IndyMac Bank, La Mirada Datacenter Phone: (714) 520-3414 Mobile: (714) 889-8734 This e-mail and any attachments may contain confidential information of Northwestern Mutual. If you are not the intended recipient of this message, be aware that any disclosure, copying, distribution or use of this e-mail and any attachments is prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify Northwestern Mutual immediately by returning it to the sender and delete all copies from your system. Please be advised that communications received via the Northwestern Mutual Secure Message Center are secure. Communications that are not received via the Northwestern Mutual Secure Message Center may not be secure and could be observed by a third party. Thank you for your cooperation. ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] SOLVED: RE: NDMP Backup on NBU 6.0 MP4
Just to update all who helped. Thanks to a symantec reader, we found the fix. For some reason, the timeout setting on the Linux Media server suddenly made a difference with the MP4 install. Upped it and all is well. Which timeout setting are you referring to? One of the ones like Client connect or something? Everything on my media server Timeout page is 300 seconds or less -- Darren Dunham [EMAIL PROTECTED] Senior Technical Consultant TAOShttp://www.taos.com/ Got some Dr Pepper? San Francisco, CA bay area This line left intentionally blank to confuse you. ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
[Veritas-bu] tape duplication with NB 6.0
Hi, I am trying to explore the tape duplication option for NetBackup. I have a problem where when a job spans multiple tapes (example 3 tapes), and when it is duplicated to a backend device. Tape 1 and Tape 3 will duplicate ok, but tape 2 fails. The only way to remediate is to make a duplicate copy of tape 2 via NetBackup, and then initiated the back-end duplication again... will this work? How would NetBackup update the catalog with the new barcode of tape 2? - It's here! Your new message! Get new email alerts with the free Yahoo! Toolbar.___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] tape duplication with NB 6.0
I am trying to explore the tape duplication option for NetBackup. I have a problem where when a job spans multiple tapes (example 3 tapes), and when it is duplicated to a backend device. Tape 1 and Tape 3 will duplicate ok, but tape 2 fails. How are you doing this duplication? Normal bpduplicate? I'm not sure what you mean by a 'backend' device. What is the failure that occurs? The only way to remediate is to make a duplicate copy of tape 2 via NetBackup, and then initiated the back-end duplication again... What's the difference between the the duplication in your first step (which fails) and the one in your second step (which works)? will this work? How would NetBackup update the catalog with the new barcode of tape 2? Tape 2 wouldn't get a new barcode normally. Netbackup doesn't duplicate tapes. It duplicates images from some tapes onto other tapes with additional space. (Due to error spots, identical tape cartridges are not guaranteed to hold identical amounts of data. So if you tried to copy a tape, you could easily run into a situation where the target tape could not hold all the data present on the source tape.) -- Darren Dunham [EMAIL PROTECTED] Senior Technical Consultant TAOShttp://www.taos.com/ Got some Dr Pepper? San Francisco, CA bay area This line left intentionally blank to confuse you. ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
