Re: [Veritas-bu] Rman fails to restore- NetBackup 5.1 MP5
This is only a guess, but do you have the Oracle extension license installed on the DR system? Regards, Patrick Whelan [EMAIL PROTECTED] VERITAS Certified NetBackup Support Engineer for UNIX -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of csnowdon Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2007 3:06 AM To: VERITAS-BU@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: [Veritas-bu] Rman fails to restore- Netbackup 5.1 MP5 I have just completed a failed DR Drill due to Rmans inability to Restore Along with Netbackup. My Prod Environments is Master Server Sol 10, U3, T2000 Running Netbackup 5.1 MP5. HP LTO3 Media, Fiber Attached. 4 Media Servers. DR Environment was very similer exect Solar10 U4, Qlogic cards and we only utilize 1 other media server. ALL of my my restores completed with the Exception of Rman. We could not Rman to properly restore from Tape. I had error messages of 5, 86, 6 etc. I thought maybe size db buffers etc might be causing the issue, but ruled this out as my other OS backups completed. Sometimes teh Backups would make it into the Gui, sometimes not. Log files show that it would mount, but then had issues reading the data from tape. I was able to run the Verify on the image, import the image, deport the image etc, but could not to save my life, get it to restore. I have a Master and Media Server. My media server is running Sol9. I used the Force media restore in bp.conf to push restores to the media server only, then to the master to see if 1 would work. Neither did. I am at wits end with this. Anyone have any ideas or similer experiences? Thanks Chris +-- |This was sent by [EMAIL PROTECTED] via Backup Central. |Forward SPAM to [EMAIL PROTECTED] +-- ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
[Veritas-bu] is it possible to integrate 2 master server databases into 1?
We have two solaris master servers runnning netbackup 5. We would like to integrate these into one master server. Is it possible to integrate one of the master serrvers catalog into another master server so that we have just one master server and one catalog. The data in the catalogs has infinite retention so we cannot wait for the data to expire and one of the master servers must be decomissioned. What options do we have? Thanks. Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Incremental backs up all files
I have a FULL/INC for a LUN on a client. When the LUN is mounted on another client (for redundancy) and the incremental is run on the new client, it runs off and backs up all the files, not just the new ones. Is there a way of tricking netbackup into thinking its already run a FULL on the new client? Typically the way this is done is to set up a virtual DNS name that follows the LUN and to do the backups by that name. When the LUN moves, so should the DNS entry. We're doing this with Windows, Linux, and Solaris clusters today. VMS clients, of course, doesn't need this sort of crap since the clusters are active/active. You'll still need to do one more full under the new virtual name, but after that your full/inc policy will work properly. .../Ed -- Ed Wilts, RHCE, BCFP, BCSD Mounds View, MN, USA mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Incremental backs up all files
You might also want to check to see that something isn't causing the archive bits to flip after the LUN is mounted on the other client. Jared M. Seaton Recovery Administrator Mylan Inc. 304-554-5926 304-685-1389 (Cell) threeta [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 11/01/2007 01:07 AM Please respond to VERITAS-BU@mailman.eng.auburn.edu To VERITAS-BU@mailman.eng.auburn.edu cc Subject [Veritas-bu] Incremental backs up all files I have a FULL/INC for a LUN on a client. When the LUN is mounted on another client (for redundancy) and the incremental is run on the new client, it runs off and backs up all the files, not just the new ones. Is there a way of tricking netbackup into thinking its already run a FULL on the new client? I have changed the bp.conf on the new client to reflect the old, moved images dir around, all to no avail. Netbackup 5.1 on Solaris 9 (master) and RE4 (clients). Thanks, Duncan +-- |This was sent by [EMAIL PROTECTED] via Backup Central. |Forward SPAM to [EMAIL PROTECTED] +-- ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu == CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail message and all attachments transmitted with it may contain legally privileged, proprietary and/or confidential information intended solely for the use of the addressee. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any review, dissemination, distribution, duplication or other use of this message and/or its attachments is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message and its attachments. Thank you. == ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Rman fails to restore- Netbackup 5.1 MP5
What do your RMAN logs say? How about the dbclient log? I recently ran a DR test and had tons of errors related to Oracle restores / RMAN. Turns out some of our RMAN scripts weren't backing up all the log files they needed to. In Oracle on Windows, I found an issue where changing the client name required that you uninstall / reinstall the client before it would successfully restore the files. Further, the DBAs had to run some sort of database consistency check versus the standby to synch up which images were available. If you can verify the images I doubt its a tape related / Netbackup problem. -Jonathan -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of csnowdon Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2007 11:06 PM To: VERITAS-BU@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: [Veritas-bu] Rman fails to restore- Netbackup 5.1 MP5 I have just completed a failed DR Drill due to Rmans inability to Restore Along with Netbackup. My Prod Environments is Master Server Sol 10, U3, T2000 Running Netbackup 5.1 MP5. HP LTO3 Media, Fiber Attached. 4 Media Servers. DR Environment was very similer exect Solar10 U4, Qlogic cards and we only utilize 1 other media server. ALL of my my restores completed with the Exception of Rman. We could not Rman to properly restore from Tape. I had error messages of 5, 86, 6 etc. I thought maybe size db buffers etc might be causing the issue, but ruled this out as my other OS backups completed. Sometimes teh Backups would make it into the Gui, sometimes not. Log files show that it would mount, but then had issues reading the data from tape. I was able to run the Verify on the image, import the image, deport the image etc, but could not to save my life, get it to restore. I have a Master and Media Server. My media server is running Sol9. I used the Force media restore in bp.conf to push restores to the media server only, then to the master to see if 1 would work. Neither did. I am at wits end with this. Anyone have any ideas or similer experiences? Thanks Chris +-- |This was sent by [EMAIL PROTECTED] via Backup Central. |Forward SPAM to [EMAIL PROTECTED] +-- ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Rman fails to restore- Netbackup 5.1 MP5
Hello Chris Have some experience with D/R of databases Have you put No.Restrictions under altnames on your D/R master ? The bprd or the dbclient maybe shed some light on the issue Also CLIENT_READ_TIMEOUT and CLIENT_CONNECT_TIMEOUT might be worth to look in to Any entries in /var/adm/messages ? Regards Michael 2007/11/1, csnowdon [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I have just completed a failed DR Drill due to Rmans inability to Restore Along with Netbackup. My Prod Environments is Master Server Sol 10, U3, T2000 Running Netbackup 5.1 MP5. HP LTO3 Media, Fiber Attached. 4 Media Servers. DR Environment was very similer exect Solar10 U4, Qlogic cards and we only utilize 1 other media server. ALL of my my restores completed with the Exception of Rman. We could not Rman to properly restore from Tape. I had error messages of 5, 86, 6 etc. I thought maybe size db buffers etc might be causing the issue, but ruled this out as my other OS backups completed. Sometimes teh Backups would make it into the Gui, sometimes not. Log files show that it would mount, but then had issues reading the data from tape. I was able to run the Verify on the image, import the image, deport the image etc, but could not to save my life, get it to restore. I have a Master and Media Server. My media server is running Sol9. I used the Force media restore in bp.conf to push restores to the media server only, then to the master to see if 1 would work. Neither did. I am at wits end with this. Anyone have any ideas or similer experiences? Thanks Chris +-- |This was sent by [EMAIL PROTECTED] via Backup Central. |Forward SPAM to [EMAIL PROTECTED] +-- ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Domino ( lotus notes ) on Windows
Any one have any creative ideas of how I can get faster backups from a windows server. We are running Lotus Notes on a Windows Intel box. The server is a Compaq G5. We are backing up 400 - 500 GB every night of mail files. The daily weekly backups are doing disk backup - data de-duplication. The backup through put is 6 mb/sec to 6.5/mb/sec. The monthly backups are going to LTO2 tape. Getting may be 7 mb/sec to tape. Either way backups are taking to long. ( 16 -18 hours ). Any one have any creative ways I can get backups in a shorter window? Looking for some ideas to get the window down by 50% - 75%. thanks Bobby Windle | W.L. Gore associates, Inc. Backup / Disaster Recovery Admin work: 302 292 4026 cell : 302 588 7374 [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://www.gore.com ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Rman fails to restore- Netbackup 5.1 MP5
From context it isn't clear to me - is OP using RMAN to do the restore or trying to make NBU do it? I don't think the latter is possible and his comment about FORCE_MEDIA_RESTORE makes me think he is trying that. RMAN has its own repository which is consulted for restore information. Wouldn't one first have to have recovered that repository somewhere? Also - When we first started doing RMAN here for some reason our DBAs didn't think they had to specify the same policy name as that used for backup when they did the restore. They had issues until I pointed it out to them. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michael Graff Andersen Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2007 9:26 AM To: VERITAS-BU@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Rman fails to restore- Netbackup 5.1 MP5 Hello Chris Have some experience with D/R of databases Have you put No.Restrictions under altnames on your D/R master ? The bprd or the dbclient maybe shed some light on the issue Also CLIENT_READ_TIMEOUT and CLIENT_CONNECT_TIMEOUT might be worth to look in to Any entries in /var/adm/messages ? Regards Michael 2007/11/1, csnowdon [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I have just completed a failed DR Drill due to Rmans inability to Restore Along with Netbackup. My Prod Environments is Master Server Sol 10, U3, T2000 Running Netbackup 5.1 MP5. HP LTO3 Media, Fiber Attached. 4 Media Servers. DR Environment was very similer exect Solar10 U4, Qlogic cards and we only utilize 1 other media server. ALL of my my restores completed with the Exception of Rman. We could not Rman to properly restore from Tape. I had error messages of 5, 86, 6 etc. I thought maybe size db buffers etc might be causing the issue, but ruled this out as my other OS backups completed. Sometimes teh Backups would make it into the Gui, sometimes not. Log files show that it would mount, but then had issues reading the data from tape. I was able to run the Verify on the image, import the image, deport the image etc, but could not to save my life, get it to restore. I have a Master and Media Server. My media server is running Sol9. I used the Force media restore in bp.conf to push restores to the media server only, then to the master to see if 1 would work. Neither did. I am at wits end with this. Anyone have any ideas or similer experiences? Thanks Chris +-- |This was sent by [EMAIL PROTECTED] via Backup Central. |Forward SPAM to [EMAIL PROTECTED] +-- ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu -- CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail may contain privileged or confidential information and is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution, or use of the contents of this information is prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this electronic transmission in error, please reply immediately to the sender that you have received the message in error, and delete it. Thank you. -- ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
[Veritas-bu] AVR on drive status
A totally Windows Environment, I came in this morning an found two bad LTO3 in my ESL712e Library, and all my drives under Activity Monitor à drives are list as AVR for the Control...what is this and how do I get rid of it? Thanks Dan Cruice This message (including any attachments) contains confidential information intended for a specific individual and purpose, and is protected by law. If you are not the intended recipient, you should delete this message and are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, or distribution of this message, or the taking of any action based on it, is strictly prohibited. ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] AVR on drive status
The master (or whichever server is defined as robotoic control host) cannot communicate with the robot. if the server that owns the AVR drives is the robotic control host, then there's probably a problem between the server and the robot (in your FC or SCSI connectivity, or a daemon.) if the drives are attached to a different server, ie, attached to a media server, adn the master is the robotic control host, then it could be a network connectivity issue between the 2 servers, or again a daemon. Paul -- -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Cruice, Daniel (US - Glen Mills) Sent: November 1, 2007 11:20 AM To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: [Veritas-bu] AVR on drive status A totally Windows Environment, I came in this morning an found two bad LTO3 in my ESL712e Library, and all my drives under Activity Monitor à drives are list as AVR for the Control...what is this and how do I get rid of it? Thanks Dan Cruice This message (including any attachments) contains confidential information intended for a specific individual and purpose, and is protected by law. If you are not the intended recipient, you should delete this message and are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, or distribution of this message, or the taking of any action based on it, is strictly prohibited. La version française suit le texte anglais. This email may contain privileged and/or confidential information, and the Bank of Canada does not waive any related rights. Any distribution, use, or copying of this email or the information it contains by other than the intended recipient is unauthorized. If you received this email in error please delete it immediately from your system and notify the sender promptly by email that you have done so. Le présent courriel peut contenir de l'information privilégiée ou confidentielle. La Banque du Canada ne renonce pas aux droits qui s'y rapportent. Toute diffusion, utilisation ou copie de ce courriel ou des renseignements qu'il contient par une personne autre que le ou les destinataires désignés est interdite. Si vous recevez ce courriel par erreur, veuillez le supprimer immédiatement et envoyer sans délai à l'expéditeur un message électronique pour l'aviser que vous avez éliminé de votre ordinateur toute copie du courriel reçu. ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Domino ( lotus notes ) on Windows
Bobby, We get 12MB/sec(350GB) from our Windows Notes netbackup client to our DSSU on our Solaris Master/Media Server. This is what we have done to increase performance to 12MB/Sec 1.) Set Lotus Domino scheduled tasks to happen outside of the backup window 2.) Made sure we have the latest nic and storage drivers. 3.) Both of these take time. Format is probably the best way to clean things up. a) Run a defrag when Domino offline b) Backed up lotus domino (offline) using the plain netbackup agent(Not the Domino agent), reformat the data drive and restored from tape. We get 30MB/Sec with an offline backup. We are planing on setting up an Lotus archive server. Which should decrease the backup volume on our notes mail server. The backup policy of the archive server has yet to be determined but it will most likely be a monthly archive and then backup. Our notes mail server would continue to backup with daily fulls. I hope this points you in the right direction. Karl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 11/01/2007 09:36:41 AM: Any one have any creative ideas of how I can get faster backups from a windows server. We are running Lotus Notes on a Windows Intel box. The server is a Compaq G5. We are backing up 400 - 500 GB every night of mail files. The daily weekly backups are doing disk backup - data de-duplication. The backup through put is 6 mb/sec to 6.5/mb/sec. The monthly backups are going to LTO2 tape. Getting may be 7 mb/sec to tape. Either way backups are taking to long. ( 16 -18 hours ). Any one have any creative ways I can get backups in a shorter window? Looking for some ideas to get the window down by 50% - 75%. thanks Bobby Windle | W.L. Gore associates, Inc. Backup / Disaster Recovery Admin work: 302 292 4026 cell : 302 588 7374 [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://www.gore.com ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
[Veritas-bu] how to install NB 6.0 on xeon processor system
Hi all, My master server is windows 2003. There is NB 6.0 MP3 on it. We need to add xeon-64 system as a client. The support is coming with NB 6.0 MP2 for that client. I have only NB 6.0 CDs. How can I add that client to my backup environment? NB 6.0 cds do not support that client. If it is unix client, I can use the push method to install it. How about windows client? Regards, ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Domino ( lotus notes ) on Windows
This is also a BIG issue with us (over a terabyte). We'd hoped that doing incrementals through transaction log backups would help (with the added bonus of point in time restores), but that unfortunately, didn't help. /Steve --- On Thu, 1 Nov 2007, Bobby R Windle wrote: Any one have any creative ideas of how I can get faster backups from a windows server. We are running Lotus Notes on a Windows Intel box. The server is a Compaq G5. We are backing up 400 - 500 GB every night of mail files. The daily weekly backups are doing disk backup - data de-duplication. The backup through put is 6 mb/sec to 6.5/mb/sec. The monthly backups are going to LTO2 tape. Getting may be 7 mb/sec to tape. Either way backups are taking to long. ( 16 -18 hours ). Any one have any creative ways I can get backups in a shorter window? Looking for some ideas to get the window down by 50% - 75%. thanks Bobby Windle | W.L. Gore associates, Inc. Backup / Disaster Recovery Admin work: 302 292 4026 cell : 302 588 7374 [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://www.gore.com ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Incremental backs up all files
Duncan, You should set the LUN as a virtual node and create a policy to back up the LUN. Remember, for a full to be in effect within NBU the full must be ran as a scheduled job within the policy that contains the client. So when the LUN moves to another client all backups will be full until the scheduled full has completed, then the incrementals will work. Thanks, Rockey J. Reed You're not obligated to win. You're obligated to keep trying to do the best you can every day. Marian Wright Edelman -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of threeta Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2007 9:07 PM To: VERITAS-BU@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: [Veritas-bu] Incremental backs up all files I have a FULL/INC for a LUN on a client. When the LUN is mounted on another client (for redundancy) and the incremental is run on the new client, it runs off and backs up all the files, not just the new ones. Is there a way of tricking netbackup into thinking its already run a FULL on the new client? I have changed the bp.conf on the new client to reflect the old, moved images dir around, all to no avail. Netbackup 5.1 on Solaris 9 (master) and RE4 (clients). Thanks, Duncan +-- |This was sent by [EMAIL PROTECTED] via Backup Central. |Forward SPAM to [EMAIL PROTECTED] +-- ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Incremental backs up all files
Why not just exclude the LUN on the second client, you already have a backup of it from the first? Full/Incr information is kept per client on the master server, don't think you'll be able to spoof it. -M -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of threeta Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2007 8:07 PM To: VERITAS-BU@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: [Veritas-bu] Incremental backs up all files I have a FULL/INC for a LUN on a client. When the LUN is mounted on another client (for redundancy) and the incremental is run on the new client, it runs off and backs up all the files, not just the new ones. Is there a way of tricking netbackup into thinking its already run a FULL on the new client? I have changed the bp.conf on the new client to reflect the old, moved images dir around, all to no avail. Netbackup 5.1 on Solaris 9 (master) and RE4 (clients). Thanks, Duncan +-- |This was sent by [EMAIL PROTECTED] via Backup Central. |Forward SPAM to [EMAIL PROTECTED] +-- ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] (no subject)
Our exchange files live on Netapp filers. We use their Exchange product to make consistent snaps of the disks, mount the snap-luns on another server and move the file from there. Probably not what you're asking for, though. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Wigington Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2007 11:13 AM To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: [Veritas-bu] (no subject) Does anyone have a large Exchange environment that is using some sort of Snapshot technology to backup Exchange using Netbackup 6.0 MP5? TAI, Mike Wigington __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] how to install NB 6.0 on xeon processor system
My master server is windows 2003. There is NB 6.0 MP3 on it. We need to add xeon-64 system as a client. The support is coming with NB 6.0 MP2 for that client. I have only NB 6.0 CDs. How can I add that client to my backup environment? NB 6.0 cds do not support that client. If it is unix client, I can use the push method to install it. How about windows client? You should obtain the 6.0MP4 media kit--it is the full set of NetBackup CDs, but all of them already at MP4. I needed this for the same reason--some new 64-bit Windows boxes--but it also eliminated any chance of forgetting to patch client, server or option installations. You'll also need to update (at least) your master and the media server that handles this client so that they're at or above the client's patch level. ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] How to calculate following ?
Unless you have a reporting package in place or want to the keep the job history for a long time, NetBackup won't do this out of the box, except perhaps for #2 - if you mean an active job, then the activity monitor will give you the info. Look at one of the many add-on reporting packages, from the free NOM to the many commercial alternatives. You can check the list archives for opinions on the various choices. #3 can be done with some scripts and they've been posted on the list too. On 11/1/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here my question in NBU 6.5 ? 1). How to calculate how much data backed up last month ? 2). How much data backed up by a client so far ? 3). How much data backed up in last 24 hours ? -- Ed Wilts, Mounds View, MN, USA mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] How to calculate following ?
I am TSM guy. In tsm there are numerous tables so u can run sql select statement and get various kind of out put. Can we run query against catalog and get report ? THX From: Ed Wilts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2007 2:30 PM To: Maurya, Anil PH/US/EXT Cc: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] How to calculate following ? Unless you have a reporting package in place or want to the keep the job history for a long time, NetBackup won't do this out of the box, except perhaps for #2 - if you mean an active job, then the activity monitor will give you the info. Look at one of the many add-on reporting packages, from the free NOM to the many commercial alternatives. You can check the list archives for opinions on the various choices. #3 can be done with some scripts and they've been posted on the list too. On 11/1/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here my question in NBU 6.5 ? 1). How to calculate how much data backed up last month ? 2). How much data backed up by a client so far ? 3). How much data backed up in last 24 hours ? -- Ed Wilts, Mounds View, MN, USA mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
[Veritas-bu] How to calculate following ?
Here my question in NBU 6.5 ? 1). How to calculate how much data backed up last month ? 2). How much data backed up by a client so far ? 3). How much data backed up in last 24 hours ? THX ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
[Veritas-bu] Incremental backs up all files
Full/Incr information is kept per client on the master server, don't think you'll be able to spoof it. I think mark has nailed this - it comes back to keeping it simple as well - so we'll move the LUN back to the original host asap. Its nice to have a method of hacking all the netbackup files and directories, but in the end how reliable is this going to be? and how easy is it to make a small error and corrupt the entire netbackup database?? Why not just exclude the LUN on the second client, you already have a backup of it from the first? We need an incremental of the data on the LUN - its only visible on one client. Hence this hair pulling exercise of trying to get the incremental to work on the second client. I like your thinking Ed and Rockey: Typically the way this is done is to set up a virtual DNS name that follows the LUN and to do the backups by that name. When the LUN moves, so should the DNS entry. We're doing this with Windows, Linux, and Solaris clusters today. VMS clients, of course, doesn't need this sort of crap since the clusters are active/active. You'll still need to do one more full under the new virtual name, but after that your full/inc policy will work properly. The incremental on the second client could be rather large if the LUN has not been hosted for a few months, but still smaller than a full. Looks like the only real solution here. You might also want to check to see that something isn't causing the archive bits to flip after the LUN is mounted on the other client. I did some different ls -l, ls -lu, and ls -la. It appears the access time is from the last FULL so all good. -bash-3.1$ ll total 32 -rwxr--r--+ 1 oracle oinstall 1350 Oct 11 15#58;01 archlogtrans -rwxr--r--+ 1 oracle oinstall 1197 Octnbsp; 7 12#58;53 archlogtrans.old -rwxrwxr-x+ 1 oracle oinstall 1267 Sep 20 16#58;12 cluster_checks.sh -rwx--nbsp; 1 oracle oinstall 1436 Octnbsp; 5 14#58;27 filepurge -rw-r--r--nbsp; 1 oracle oinstallnbsp; 258 Octnbsp; 5 15#58;08 filepurge.tab -bash-3.1$ ls -lu total 32 -rwxr--r--+ 1 oracle oinstall 1350 Oct 11 15#58;01 archlogtrans -rwxr--r--+ 1 oracle oinstall 1197 Octnbsp; 7 12#58;53 archlogtrans.old -rwxrwxr-x+ 1 oracle oinstall 1267 Sep 20 16#58;12 cluster_checks.sh -rwx--nbsp; 1 oracle oinstall 1436 Octnbsp; 5 14#58;27 filepurge -rw-r--r--nbsp; 1 oracle oinstallnbsp; 258 Octnbsp; 5 15#58;08 filepurge.tab -bash-3.1$ ls -lc total 32 -rwxr--r--+ 1 oracle oinstall 1350 Oct 13 16#58;43 archlogtrans -rwxr--r--+ 1 oracle oinstall 1197 Oct 13 16#58;43 archlogtrans.old -rwxrwxr-x+ 1 oracle oinstall 1267 Oct 13 16#58;43 cluster_checks.sh -rwx--nbsp; 1 oracle oinstall 1436 Oct 13 16#58;43 filepurge -rw-r--r--nbsp; 1 oracle oinstallnbsp; 258 Oct 13 16#58;43 filepurge.tab So in Summary Copying the STREAMS file did not work. A scheduled Incremental continues to back up all files. Renaming the images db dir for the client and spoofing the client name in the bp.conf on the new client and in hosts on the master didn't work either. Netbackup must reverse lookup or something to verify the client is actually who it says it is. Thanks all for your input. Duncan +-- |This was sent by [EMAIL PROTECTED] via Backup Central. |Forward SPAM to [EMAIL PROTECTED] +-- ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] How to calculate following ?
Actually, all of the requests are possible with the native NetBackup commands, with the one requirement that all the images are still active. Once the images expire, that data is purged from the NBU catalogs. You cannot do SQL queries against the database (at least not prior to 6.x). So, as Ed said, you either have to grab this data yourself, or look into a reporting/trending/historical analysis package. Some that come to mind are (in no particular order): NOM (Symantec freebie) VBR (Symantec add on) Aptare/HBSM (3rd party) Boccada (3rd party) Wysdm (3rd party) etc. Rusty Major, MCSE, BCFP Sr. Data Assurance Engineer (281) 584-4693 VeriCenter, Inc. Martin, Jonathan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 11/01/2007 02:03 PM To [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject Re: [Veritas-bu] How to calculate following ? I wish. -Jonathan From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2007 2:42 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] How to calculate following ? I am TSM guy. In tsm there are numerous tables so u can run sql select statement and get various kind of out put. Can we run query against catalog and get report ? THX From: Ed Wilts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2007 2:30 PM To: Maurya, Anil PH/US/EXT Cc: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] How to calculate following ? Unless you have a reporting package in place or want to the keep the job history for a long time, NetBackup won't do this out of the box, except perhaps for #2 - if you mean an active job, then the activity monitor will give you the info. Look at one of the many add-on reporting packages, from the free NOM to the many commercial alternatives. You can check the list archives for opinions on the various choices. #3 can be done with some scripts and they've been posted on the list too. On 11/1/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here my question in NBU 6.5 ? 1). How to calculate how much data backed up last month ? 2). How much data backed up by a client so far ? 3). How much data backed up in last 24 hours ? -- Ed Wilts, Mounds View, MN, USA mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Rman fails to restore- Netbackup 5.1 MP5
I have seen RMANs backup with no porblems them when it comes to restoration its no go. Always test your RMAN restores. When I have seen this behaviour its been related to hostname resolution. RMANs are very sensitive to name resolution. Go through all the documented tests to ensure reverse lookup and all the names match. Also be careful about aliases in the hosts file, sometime they can cause side effects and mess up your restore attempts Jim On 11/2/07, Michael Graff Andersen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Chris Have some experience with D/R of databases Have you put No.Restrictions under altnames on your D/R master ? The bprd or the dbclient maybe shed some light on the issue Also CLIENT_READ_TIMEOUT and CLIENT_CONNECT_TIMEOUT might be worth to look in to Any entries in /var/adm/messages ? Regards Michael 2007/11/1, csnowdon [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I have just completed a failed DR Drill due to Rmans inability to Restore Along with Netbackup. My Prod Environments is Master Server Sol 10, U3, T2000 Running Netbackup 5.1 MP5. HP LTO3 Media, Fiber Attached. 4 Media Servers. DR Environment was very similer exect Solar10 U4, Qlogic cards and we only utilize 1 other media server. ALL of my my restores completed with the Exception of Rman. We could not Rman to properly restore from Tape. I had error messages of 5, 86, 6 etc. I thought maybe size db buffers etc might be causing the issue, but ruled this out as my other OS backups completed. Sometimes teh Backups would make it into the Gui, sometimes not. Log files show that it would mount, but then had issues reading the data from tape. I was able to run the Verify on the image, import the image, deport the image etc, but could not to save my life, get it to restore. I have a Master and Media Server. My media server is running Sol9. I used the Force media restore in bp.conf to push restores to the media server only, then to the master to see if 1 would work. Neither did. I am at wits end with this. Anyone have any ideas or similer experiences? Thanks Chris +-- |This was sent by [EMAIL PROTECTED] via Backup Central. |Forward SPAM to [EMAIL PROTECTED] +-- ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] AVR on drive status
Also verify someone didn't leave robtest or some 3rd party verification tool running - I can't remember the name of the HP library diagnostics tool. Rusty Major, MCSE, BCFP Sr. Data Assurance Engineer (281) 584-4693 VeriCenter, Inc. Paul Keating [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 11/01/2007 10:28 AM To Cruice, Daniel (US - Glen Mills) [EMAIL PROTECTED], veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu cc Subject Re: [Veritas-bu] AVR on drive status The master (or whichever server is defined as robotoic control host) cannot communicate with the robot. if the server that owns the AVR drives is the robotic control host, then there's probably a problem between the server and the robot (in your FC or SCSI connectivity, or a daemon.) if the drives are attached to a different server, ie, attached to a media server, adn the master is the robotic control host, then it could be a network connectivity issue between the 2 servers, or again a daemon. Paul -- -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Cruice, Daniel (US - Glen Mills) Sent: November 1, 2007 11:20 AM To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: [Veritas-bu] AVR on drive status A totally Windows Environment, I came in this morning an found two bad LTO3 in my ESL712e Library, and all my drives under Activity Monitor à drives are list as AVR for the “Control”…what is this and how do I get rid of it? Thanks Dan Cruice This message (including any attachments) contains confidential information intended for a specific individual and purpose, and is protected by law. If you are not the intended recipient, you should delete this message and are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, or distribution of this message, or the taking of any action based on it, is strictly prohibited. La version française suit le texte anglais. This email may contain privileged and/or confidential information, and the Bank of Canada does not waive any related rights. Any distribution, use, or copying of this email or the information it contains by other than the intended recipient is unauthorized. If you received this email in error please delete it immediately from your system and notify the sender promptly by email that you have done so. Le présent courriel peut contenir de l'information privilégiée ou confidentielle. La Banque du Canada ne renonce pas aux droits qui s'y rapportent. Toute diffusion, utilisation ou copie de ce courriel ou des renseignements qu'il contient par une personne autre que le ou les destinataires désignés est interdite. Si vous recevez ce courriel par erreur, veuillez le supprimer immédiatement et envoyer sans délai à l'expéditeur un message électronique pour l'aviser que vous avez éliminé de votre ordinateur toute copie du courriel reçu. ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] AVR on drive status
A good ole fashion reboot seems to have cleared my problem… Thanks Dan From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2007 4:53 PM To: Paul Keating Cc: Cruice, Daniel (US - Glen Mills); veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] AVR on drive status Also verify someone didn't leave robtest or some 3rd party verification tool running - I can't remember the name of the HP library diagnostics tool. Rusty Major, MCSE, BCFP Sr. Data Assurance Engineer (281) 584-4693 VeriCenter, Inc. Paul Keating [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 11/01/2007 10:28 AM To Cruice, Daniel (US - Glen Mills) [EMAIL PROTECTED], veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu cc Subject Re: [Veritas-bu] AVR on drive status The master (or whichever server is defined as robotoic control host) cannot communicate with the robot. if the server that owns the AVR drives is the robotic control host, then there's probably a problem between the server and the robot (in your FC or SCSI connectivity, or a daemon.) if the drives are attached to a different server, ie, attached to a media server, adn the master is the robotic control host, then it could be a network connectivity issue between the 2 servers, or again a daemon. Paul -- -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Cruice, Daniel (US - Glen Mills) Sent: November 1, 2007 11:20 AM To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: [Veritas-bu] AVR on drive status A totally Windows Environment, I came in this morning an found two bad LTO3 in my ESL712e Library, and all my drives under Activity Monitor à drives are list as AVR for the “Control”…what is this and how do I get rid of it? Thanks Dan Cruice This message (including any attachments) contains confidential information intended for a specific individual and purpose, and is protected by law. If you are not the intended recipient, you should delete this message and are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, or distribution of this message, or the taking of any action based on it, is strictly prohibited. La version française suit le texte anglais. This email may contain privileged and/or confidential information, and the Bank of Canada does not waive any related rights. Any distribution, use, or copying of this email or the information it contains by other than the intended recipient is unauthorized. If you received this email in error please delete it immediately from your system and notify the sender promptly by email that you have done so. Le présent courriel peut contenir de l'information privilégiée ou confidentielle. La Banque du Canada ne renonce pas aux droits qui s'y rapportent. Toute diffusion, utilisation ou copie de ce courriel ou des renseignements qu'il contient par une personne autre que le ou les destinataires désignés est interdite. Si vous recevez ce courriel par erreur, veuillez le supprimer immédiatement et envoyer sans délai à l'expéditeur un message électronique pour l'aviser que vous avez éliminé de votre ordinateur toute copie du courriel reçu. ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
[Veritas-bu] LTO3 and LTO2 compatibility
I need to send some tapes to a site with LTO2 drives. Unfortunately, we are running LTO3. Will they still be able to read these tapes? I realize this is the opposite of the compatibility matrix, but I've never tried this and haven't heard results from anyone else. If this won't work, if I duped them to LTO2 MEDIA, but still written from an LTO3 drive, would that be compatible with the LTO2 drives on the other end? Thanks, Rusty Major, MCSE, BCFP Sr. Data Assurance Engineer (281) 584-4693 VeriCenter, Inc. ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
[Veritas-bu] General questions for everyone
Say you have over 900 clients to backup from 5:00pm - 8:00am...20 LTO3 tapes drives in a library. 99% of the environment is Windows including my media servers / Master node and I am running multiplexing (20) in some cases. Right now 90% of all my jobs kick off at 5:00 on the dot. Seems that many of my jobs when they kick off will sit in a Queued status for 15 - 20 minutes at the kick-off, the active jobs will increment every few seconds. I understand I'll have jobs queued once the multiplexing hits the threshold for number of jobs per tape, or if all my tape drives are being used. But was just wondering if I staggered my start time would help load up the tapes / writing to tape any quicker, or simply go to an active state sooner? But unfortunately I am running on a 100mb network, but it is segregated from my production network. Suggestions? Thanks Dan Cruice This message (including any attachments) contains confidential information intended for a specific individual and purpose, and is protected by law. If you are not the intended recipient, you should delete this message and are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, or distribution of this message, or the taking of any action based on it, is strictly prohibited. ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] LTO3 and LTO2 compatibility
On Thu, Nov 01, 2007 at 04:11:57PM -0500, Major, Rusty wrote: I need to send some tapes to a site with LTO2 drives. Unfortunately, we are running LTO3. Will they still be able to read these tapes? No. Backward compatibility isn't usually possible. The LTO3 format will have a higher density than the older drives can work with. If this won't work, if I duped them to LTO2 MEDIA, but still written from an LTO3 drive, would that be compatible with the LTO2 drives on the other end? Yes, it should. -- Darren Dunham [EMAIL PROTECTED] Senior Technical Consultant TAOShttp://www.taos.com/ Got some Dr Pepper? San Francisco, CA bay area This line left intentionally blank to confuse you. ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Domino ( lotus notes ) on Windows
Hi Steve, Could you tell what exactly did not work for you with transaction log backups? I was asked to evaluate the transaction log backups thru the NetBackup Notes agent, and I was wondering if anybody does it at all. Thank you, Boris On 11/1/07, Steve Quan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is also a BIG issue with us (over a terabyte). We'd hoped that doing incrementals through transaction log backups would help (with the added bonus of point in time restores), but that unfortunately, didn't help. /Steve --- On Thu, 1 Nov 2007, Bobby R Windle wrote: Any one have any creative ideas of how I can get faster backups from a windows server. We are running Lotus Notes on a Windows Intel box. The server is a Compaq G5. We are backing up 400 - 500 GB every night of mail files. The daily weekly backups are doing disk backup - data de-duplication. The backup through put is 6 mb/sec to 6.5/mb/sec. The monthly backups are going to LTO2 tape. Getting may be 7 mb/sec to tape. Either way backups are taking to long. ( 16 -18 hours ). Any one have any creative ways I can get backups in a shorter window? Looking for some ideas to get the window down by 50% - 75%. thanks Bobby Windle | W.L. Gore associates, Inc. Backup / Disaster Recovery Admin work: 302 292 4026 cell : 302 588 7374 [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://www.gore.com ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Domino ( lotus notes ) on Windows
Hi Karl, Why would not recommend to use the NetBackup Notes agent, did you try and it did not work for you? Thank you, Boris On 11/1/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bobby, We get 12MB/sec(350GB) from our Windows Notes netbackup client to our DSSU on our Solaris Master/Media Server. This is what we have done to increase performance to 12MB/Sec 1.) Set Lotus Domino scheduled tasks to happen outside of the backup window 2.) Made sure we have the latest nic and storage drivers. 3.) Both of these take time. Format is probably the best way to clean things up. a) Run a defrag when Domino offline b) Backed up lotus domino (offline) using the plain netbackup agent(Not the Domino agent), reformat the data drive and restored from tape. We get 30MB/Sec with an offline backup. We are planing on setting up an Lotus archive server. Which should decrease the backup volume on our notes mail server. The backup policy of the archive server has yet to be determined but it will most likely be a monthly archive and then backup. Our notes mail server would continue to backup with daily fulls. I hope this points you in the right direction. Karl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 11/01/2007 09:36:41 AM: Any one have any creative ideas of how I can get faster backups from a windows server. We are running Lotus Notes on a Windows Intel box. The server is a Compaq G5. We are backing up 400 - 500 GB every night of mail files. The daily weekly backups are doing disk backup - data de-duplication. The backup through put is 6 mb/sec to 6.5/mb/sec. The monthly backups are going to LTO2 tape. Getting may be 7 mb/sec to tape. Either way backups are taking to long. ( 16 -18 hours ). Any one have any creative ways I can get backups in a shorter window? Looking for some ideas to get the window down by 50% - 75%. thanks Bobby Windle | W.L. Gore associates, Inc. Backup / Disaster Recovery Admin work: 302 292 4026 cell : 302 588 7374 [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://www.gore.com ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Incremental backs up all files
Ah, it's a movable lun, not a multiplely-mounted lun. If you've got an alias IP that follows the application around (and, therefore, I assume the LUN), then tying your policy to that ip's host or DNS name is a good way. The full/incr tracking will be following the aliased-ip name. The incrementals work by simply recording the time of the last full or incremental in a table tied to the client name. Then it's a comparison of the file's mtime value vs the last full/incremental for your current incremental's run. (Cumu compares against full backup time, differential against previous incremental time). This is for unix, of course. NT uses the archive bit by default (switchable) so that actually would work correctly no matter where it's done. If this won't work, aliased-ip method, for your arrangement, you might just have to bit the bullet and build the filesystem in on both clients and just take the hit when you move it around. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of threeta Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2007 2:05 PM To: VERITAS-BU@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: [Veritas-bu] Incremental backs up all files Full/Incr information is kept per client on the master server, don't think you'll be able to spoof it. I think mark has nailed this - it comes back to keeping it simple as well - so we'll move the LUN back to the original host asap. Its nice to have a method of hacking all the netbackup files and directories, but in the end how reliable is this going to be? and how easy is it to make a small error and corrupt the entire netbackup database?? Why not just exclude the LUN on the second client, you already have a backup of it from the first? We need an incremental of the data on the LUN - its only visible on one client. Hence this hair pulling exercise of trying to get the incremental to work on the second client. I like your thinking Ed and Rockey: Typically the way this is done is to set up a virtual DNS name that follows the LUN and to do the backups by that name. When the LUN moves, so should the DNS entry. We're doing this with Windows, Linux, and Solaris clusters today. VMS clients, of course, doesn't need this sort of crap since the clusters are active/active. You'll still need to do one more full under the new virtual name, but after that your full/inc policy will work properly. The incremental on the second client could be rather large if the LUN has not been hosted for a few months, but still smaller than a full. Looks like the only real solution here. You might also want to check to see that something isn't causing the archive bits to flip after the LUN is mounted on the other client. I did some different ls -l, ls -lu, and ls -la. It appears the access time is from the last FULL so all good. -bash-3.1$ ll total 32 -rwxr--r--+ 1 oracle oinstall 1350 Oct 11 15#58;01 archlogtrans -rwxr--r--+ 1 oracle oinstall 1197 Octnbsp; 7 12#58;53 archlogtrans.old -rwxrwxr-x+ 1 oracle oinstall 1267 Sep 20 16#58;12 cluster_checks.sh -rwx--nbsp; 1 oracle oinstall 1436 Octnbsp; 5 14#58;27 filepurge -rw-r--r--nbsp; 1 oracle oinstallnbsp; 258 Octnbsp; 5 15#58;08 filepurge.tab -bash-3.1$ ls -lu total 32 -rwxr--r--+ 1 oracle oinstall 1350 Oct 11 15#58;01 archlogtrans -rwxr--r--+ 1 oracle oinstall 1197 Octnbsp; 7 12#58;53 archlogtrans.old -rwxrwxr-x+ 1 oracle oinstall 1267 Sep 20 16#58;12 cluster_checks.sh -rwx--nbsp; 1 oracle oinstall 1436 Octnbsp; 5 14#58;27 filepurge -rw-r--r--nbsp; 1 oracle oinstallnbsp; 258 Octnbsp; 5 15#58;08 filepurge.tab -bash-3.1$ ls -lc total 32 -rwxr--r--+ 1 oracle oinstall 1350 Oct 13 16#58;43 archlogtrans -rwxr--r--+ 1 oracle oinstall 1197 Oct 13 16#58;43 archlogtrans.old -rwxrwxr-x+ 1 oracle oinstall 1267 Oct 13 16#58;43 cluster_checks.sh -rwx--nbsp; 1 oracle oinstall 1436 Oct 13 16#58;43 filepurge -rw-r--r--nbsp; 1 oracle oinstallnbsp; 258 Oct 13 16#58;43 filepurge.tab So in Summary Copying the STREAMS file did not work. A scheduled Incremental continues to back up all files. Renaming the images db dir for the client and spoofing the client name in the bp.conf on the new client and in hosts on the master didn't work either. Netbackup must reverse lookup or something to verify the client is actually who it says it is. Thanks all for your input. Duncan +-- |This was sent by [EMAIL PROTECTED] via Backup Central. |Forward SPAM to [EMAIL PROTECTED] +-- ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] General questions for everyone
Don't try to outsmart the NetBackup scheduler. In most cases, it will do a better job of it than you can and you'll be more supportable. One better option would be upgrade to GigE (only 900 clients - what are you doing this weekend? J) and then reduce the multiplexing down. I suspect you're not getting good very good write rates now. ./Ed From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Cruice, Daniel (US - Glen Mills) Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2007 4:14 PM To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: [Veritas-bu] General questions for everyone Say you have over 900 clients to backup from 5:00pm - 8:00am.20 LTO3 tapes drives in a library. 99% of the environment is Windows including my media servers / Master node and I am running multiplexing (20) in some cases. Right now 90% of all my jobs kick off at 5:00 on the dot. Seems that many of my jobs when they kick off will sit in a Queued status for 15 - 20 minutes at the kick-off, the active jobs will increment every few seconds. I understand I'll have jobs queued once the multiplexing hits the threshold for number of jobs per tape, or if all my tape drives are being used. But was just wondering if I staggered my start time would help load up the tapes / writing to tape any quicker, or simply go to an active state sooner? But unfortunately I am running on a 100mb network, but it is segregated from my production network. Suggestions? Thanks Dan Cruice ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] is it possible to integrate 2 master server databases into 1?
You don't have any great options. The most supportable option, although time consuming, is to take all of your images/tapes from the expiring master and import them on the new master. Don't forget that with NetBackup 5, you also have distributed media databases. That's going to make the merging uglier if you're not able to do imports. There are probably options that are available if you are able to pay for Symantec Professional Services. -- Ed Wilts, RHCE, BCFP, BCSD Mounds View, MN, USA mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of mark wragge Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2007 5:32 AM To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: [Veritas-bu] is it possible to integrate 2 master server databases into 1? We have two solaris master servers runnning netbackup 5. We would like to integrate these into one master server. Is it possible to integrate one of the master serrvers catalog into another master server so that we have just one master server and one catalog. The data in the catalogs has infinite retention so we cannot wait for the data to expire and one of the master servers must be decomissioned. What options do we have? ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] How to calculate following ?
Anil, maybe these will help:
1/
Will show how much was backed up during last 30 days
/usr/openv/netbackup/bin/admincmd/bpimagelist -U -hoursago 720 | awk
'{t+=$5}END{print t/1073741824}'
2/ Use the script attached, it gives some good info. Check_data_sizes calls
a.pl so make sure they are in the same dir.
Create a file with client name(s) in it and run check_data against it.
NOTE: I'm no perl programmer so it's a quick and very dirty solution. I'm
sure the real perl guys will get a laugh out of it
but it does the job. If anyone re-writes it please give me a copy as I
can't be bothered re-writing but would love to see
a better version.
3/
As above but like this:
/usr/openv/netbackup/bin/admincmd/bpimagelist -U -hoursago 24 | awk
'{t+=$5}END{print t/1073741824}'
Cheers,
Dom
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, 2 November 2007 5:42 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] How to calculate following ?
I am TSM guy. In tsm there are numerous tables so u can run sql select
statement and get various kind of out put. Can we run query against catalog
and get report ?
THX
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From: Ed Wilts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2007 2:30 PM
To: Maurya, Anil PH/US/EXT
Cc: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] How to calculate following ?
Unless you have a reporting package in place or want to the keep the job
history for a long time, NetBackup won't do this out of the box, except
perhaps for #2 - if you mean an active job, then the activity monitor will
give you the info.
Look at one of the many add-on reporting packages, from the free NOM to the
many commercial alternatives. You can check the list archives for opinions
on the various choices. #3 can be done with some scripts and they've been
posted on the list too.
On 11/1/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Here my question in NBU 6.5 ?
1). How to calculate how much data backed up last month ?
2). How much data backed up by a client so far ?
3). How much data backed up in last 24 hours ?
--
Ed Wilts, Mounds View, MN, USA
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