Re: [Veritas-bu] folders files not backing up

2008-03-25 Thread Reynolds, Susan K.
I had this problem in one of my OS policies -- for me cross mount points was 
not checked when it should have been.



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I guess you've ruled out an exclude list in your installpath/netbackup 
directory for this specific policy? 

 

Here we have some default exclude lists we push out and I'm wondering if maybe 
you have one that is excluding this because it is an NFS mount somewhere else?

 



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Is it a mountpoint or just a simple directory under /opt?

 

Can you post the output of df -k?

 



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sorry.. 
Yes directory. All operating systems but some more than others..   

No it is not a link. That was the first thing I checked. Non of the directories 
under /opt are links... 
Just makes no sense why a slective backup of just the missing directory works. 
Even using same policy just modifying the file selection from 
ALL_LOCAL_DRIVES to /opt./(directory name) works.. 


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Oh - another idea?  Is the directory under /opt a link? 
  
ls -ld /opt/skippped name 
  
Netbackup does not follow links. 
  
My thinking this is an error in perception, rather than a technical problem.  
Your use of the word folder rather than directory for solaris makes me 
think you are perhaps a Windows person with Unix as your second language? 



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Thanks for the response..   

On the Solaris server it is skipping a folder under the /opt directory. There 
are 15 - 20 other folders under /opt that are backing 
up just fine. I changed permission on the folder that is getting skipped to 777 
and it still ignores it. 

On one of the windows server I found ( but not fully researched) it skips 
everything under the root folders of local E:\ drive. It creates 
the folders but skips every thing under. this could be something else.. The 
Solaris server makes no sense as I can do a 
selective backup of just that directory and it backs everything up. When I do 
ALL_LOCAL_DRIVES it has the problem. 

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There's two obvious things to check. 
 
Local drives means local - it's not crossing network mounts  - check for 
that. 
 
exclusion lists in /usr/openv/netbackup, exclude_list* 
 
how are you doing a selective backup? 
 



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I'm running Netbackup Enterprise 6.5.1 under Solaris 10.  Recently I found a 
folder and every folder  file under it, is not backing up. 
I using ALL_LOCAL_ DRIVES for the selection lists. Also I just found a windows 
server that also is missing folders  files from backups. 

On the Solaris server, if I do a selective directory backup of the missing 
folder(s), it works. Any ideas. This has me worried... 

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[Veritas-bu] NetBackup 6.5.1 and Exchange 2007

2008-03-25 Thread osonder

Ok. I'm doing a Full backup of mailstore, with Status 0. We are running 
Exchange CCR and take backup of the active node. 
I have heard that the backup have to be done by the passive node for the LOG 
files to be deleted. Can anyone confirm this?

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[Veritas-bu] Remote Online Backups

2008-03-25 Thread rubbyfiller

Performing backups at every remote site is complicated, expensive and risky 
too. Doing backup across the WAN is easier, reliable, and more secure.

Have you experimented Riverbed Copy Utility (RCU)?
It would be a great fit.
By overcoming bandwidth limitations and reducing network latency, Riverbed’s 
WDS facilitates network-based backup approaches in most of the customer 
environments. Riverbed technology optimizes: 
1.  Centralized backup and recovery of servers and desktop machines in 
remote offices
2.  Replication of centralized data repositories between data centers

in your distributed enterprise for backing up large amounts of data.
RCU for disaster recovery can also be used for your remote backup solution just 
as effectively.

http://www.wdsforum.org/forum/index.php?act=attachtype=postid=10

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Re: [Veritas-bu] full DSUs in old NBU revs (was: something longer)

2008-03-25 Thread Ed Wilts
On Mon, Mar 24, 2008 at 11:50 PM, Curtis Preston [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 I'm almost positive that 6.5 supports DSU cascading in a single job,
 just like tape and virtual tape.


DSUs do span.  DSSUs don't.  Symantec got it half right.

   .../Ed


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[Veritas-bu] Adding Linux to NetBackup Environment as a Master and Media Server.

2008-03-25 Thread ZIMMER, RANDY K [AG/1000]
All,

I'm looking for guidance on using Linux in our NetBackup environment.
We are getting ready to update our current infrastructure.  If we go
with Linux we will use the Dell hardware but I need to know from you is
how the systems should be sized, what HBA's do you recommend, what OS,
does it matter if it is RedHat or SLES?  I backup about 300 TB a month
in my production environment running around 1500 jobs per day, with a
lot of it being Oracle backups.  Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,

Randy K. Zimmer 
Sr. Unix System Administrator 
Office: 314-694-3109 
Cell:  314-960-0500 
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Re: [Veritas-bu] Adding Linux to NetBackup Environment as a Master and Media Server.

2008-03-25 Thread Justin Piszcz


On Tue, 25 Mar 2008, ZIMMER, RANDY K [AG/1000] wrote:

 All,

 I'm looking for guidance on using Linux in our NetBackup environment.
 We are getting ready to update our current infrastructure.  If we go
 with Linux we will use the Dell hardware but I need to know from you is
 how the systems should be sized, what HBA's do you recommend, what OS,
 does it matter if it is RedHat or SLES?  I backup about 300 TB a month
 in my production environment running around 1500 jobs per day, with a
 lot of it being Oracle backups.  Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Go with latest supported RedHat Enterpise Linux.
Go with 4gbps HBAs, we've been using qlogic HBAs with no problems.
Make sure you have enough bandwidth on the system board (mobo) for the
type of drives you are placing on each server.

e.g., low-end server should not have more than 1 LTO-3/4 drive if its 1gbps
but for 10gbps you obviously want a beefier box for 10gbps card and maybe
2 dual port cards for 4 LTO-3 drives, but if LTO-4, then 3 of those.

etc..

Justin.

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Re: [Veritas-bu] Adding Linux to NetBackup Environment as a MasterandMedia Server.

2008-03-25 Thread Mark.Donaldson
We had problems with qlogic cards in redhat a couple releases ago, went
with emulex and haven't looked back.
 
We've got 6.5.1 installed on RH-ES5 on AMD processors and it kicks butt.
It's the fastest media server I've got.  We had lots of problems with
combinations of earlier releases of RH  NB but I can certify this one
as working well in our environment.
 
It's, without a doubt, sensitve to version combinations but the latest
versions seem to work well with the latest versions.
 
-M



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MasterandMedia Server.



We don't use Linux for Master or Media server but do use it for quite a
bit including a couple of Oracle RAC installations.

 

My recommendation would to use RedHat if you're doing Linux.   There are
far more commercial packages for RHEL than SLES.   (Also from a Linux
purist viewpoint Novell/Suse is shunned because of the agreement they
signed with M$.)   Haven't worked on SLES so don't know that it is
better or worse technically but haven't seen any reason to go to it
either.

 

The fibre HBAs we use are the ones made by Qlogic.   I had an issue with
Emulex in a test environment once but it may be that was because I was
trying to setup a test environment to look like the Production one that
already had.

 



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andMedia Server.

 

All,

I'm looking for guidance on using Linux in our NetBackup environment.
We are getting ready to update our current infrastructure.  If we go
with Linux we will use the Dell hardware but I need to know from you is
how the systems should be sized, what HBA's do you recommend, what OS,
does it matter if it is RedHat or SLES?  I backup about 300 TB a month
in my production environment running around 1500 jobs per day, with a
lot of it being Oracle backups.  Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,

Randy K. Zimmer
Sr. Unix System Administrator
Office: 314-694-3109
Cell:  314-960-0500
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Re: [Veritas-bu] Remote Online Backups

2008-03-25 Thread Mark.Donaldson
FYI: [EMAIL PROTECTED] notified, management at Riverbed Technologies
notified.  

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Performing backups at every remote site is complicated, expensive and
risky too. Doing backup across the WAN is easier, reliable, and more
secure.

Have you experimented Riverbed Copy Utility (RCU)?
It would be a great fit.
By overcoming bandwidth limitations and reducing network latency,
Riverbed's WDS facilitates network-based backup approaches in most of
the customer environments. Riverbed technology optimizes: 
1.  Centralized backup and recovery of servers and desktop machines
in remote offices
2.  Replication of centralized data repositories between data
centers

in your distributed enterprise for backing up large amounts of data.
RCU for disaster recovery can also be used for your remote backup
solution just as effectively.

http://www.wdsforum.org/forum/index.php?act=attachtype=postid=10

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Re: [Veritas-bu] NetBackup 6.5.1 and Exchange 2007

2008-03-25 Thread Ambrose, Monte
We are backing up only the active node and it truncates the log files.  - Monte

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Ok. I'm doing a Full backup of mailstore, with Status 0. We are running 
Exchange CCR and take backup of the active node.
I have heard that the backup have to be done by the passive node for the LOG 
files to be deleted. Can anyone confirm this?

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Re: [Veritas-bu] full DSUs in old NBU revs (was: something longer)

2008-03-25 Thread Andrey Halezov
Bob, Curtis, David, Ed,
Thanks a lot for your suggestions.

I will follow David's suggestion to melt all my small drives into a
big Volume using Solstice or Veritas VM.

Thank you

On 3/24/08, bob944 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I have setup several 34G disks mounted as /backupdisk_1,
  /backupdisk_2, /backupdisk_3 and etc... Each mount point
  becomes a separate Disk Storage Unit. I also have a Media
  Manager Storage Unit - DLT tape library with 20 tapes.
 
  All my backup classes are setup with property Storage_Unit
  set to any available.
 
Expectation
  ===
  To continue backup on the next Storage Unit (Disk or Media Manager,
  whichever has space available) after one of the Storage Units
  fills up.

 Many users (myself included) somehow assumed that DSUs would work that
 way when they were introduced.  They don't.  DSUs and STUG[roup]s get
 smarter every release, though; this is the default setting for 6.5
 STUGs:

 Prioritized
 NetBackup chooses the first storage unit in the list that is not busy,
 down, or out of media. Also, the storage unit must not have reached the
 maximum concurrent jobs setting. When one of the specified conditions
 occurs, the next storage unit in the list is examined until NetBackup
 finds an available storage unit. If one is not available or if one does
 not have enough available space, the job fails and is not queued.
 (Default.)

  Looks like NetBackup chooses Storage Unit for the job and
  doesn't change to different one after the chosen Storage
  Unit fills up.
  Is there a way to fix my setup?

 If you're expecting a job, a stream, to start on one STU, then continue
 on another, that's not going to happen (unless it's a new 6.5 thing and
 someone will correct me if that's the case)--you aren't going to write a
 40GB backup to 34GB STUs, no matter how many you have.  You may need to
 adjust your understanding of what a storage unit is.  As
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] points out in his reply, combining your 34GB
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[Veritas-bu] NBU 6.0 Master Server hangs...many bpdbm process running

2008-03-25 Thread Sponsler, Michael
 
Master Server : Netbackup 6.0 MP5 Solaris 10 on a SunFire v440 with 4x
1593 Mhz UltraSparc IIIi CPU's and 16 GB of RAM.

I do have roughly 55 Media Servers, and a couple dozen clients on my
Netbackup Domain.  All are Netbackup 6.0 MP5.

What I'm seeing is that my Master server will have many bpdbm processes
running.  All four of my CPU's get pegged out and the system hangs.
Ultimately it becomes unresponsive and it needs to be shut down.

All of my Media Servers run Oracle, and I have to do hourly Oracle
Archive Log backups (contractual agreement).

Why would so many bpdbm processes be running, and why would they need to
suck up all of the processing power?  Does each backup spawn a bpdbm
process?  I have 70 Active backup jobs running right now, and 40 bpdbm
processes running.   Is it normal for that many bpdbm processes to be
running?

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Northrop Grumman Information Technology
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[Veritas-bu] Is NBU v6.5.1 stable?

2008-03-25 Thread King, Cheryl
I haven't been on the list in about a year due to other work load.  I
now find the version of NBU we're running is only supported until
3/31/2008.  We would like to upgrade to v6.5.1.  Just checking for
opinions on that version.

Currently at v5.1 MP5 Solaris Master/Media, Win Media.

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[Veritas-bu] Backup Exec

2008-03-25 Thread netbackup
I'm sure this is not the right forum, but perhaps someon can point me in the 
right direction as I am a complete novice with Backup Exec.

How, from the windows command line, can I execute the bemcmd command on a 
remote server? 

If someone can point me in the right direction I would greatly appreciate it.

I have tried rsh and rexec.

Regards,

Patrick Whelan
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Re: [Veritas-bu] Adding Linux to NetBackup Environment as a Master andMedia Server.

2008-03-25 Thread Robin Small
We're running SLES9SP4 (I'd like to get up to 10SP1, but haven't yet)

We had some issues with init scripts starting on 6.0, but with 6.5 it's been 
addressed.
It's on a Dell 2650 and is using a QLogic 2342 dual channel fiber card.

It's been really solid.

~ Robin

 ZIMMER, RANDY K [AG/1000] [EMAIL PROTECTED] 3/25/2008 6:00 AM 
All,

I'm looking for guidance on using Linux in our NetBackup environment.
We are getting ready to update our current infrastructure.  If we go
with Linux we will use the Dell hardware but I need to know from you is
how the systems should be sized, what HBA's do you recommend, what OS,
does it matter if it is RedHat or SLES?  I backup about 300 TB a month
in my production environment running around 1500 jobs per day, with a
lot of it being Oracle backups.  Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,

Randy K. Zimmer 
Sr. Unix System Administrator 
Office: 314-694-3109 
Cell:  314-960-0500 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 



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Re: [Veritas-bu] Remote Online Backups

2008-03-25 Thread Curtis Preston
Message and poster dealt with.

I don't normally post my personal opinions about products, but for some
reason right now I feel inspired.

I don't get the whole Riverbed thing.  I don't see any advantages in the
backup arena over using a more standard dedupe appliance or dedupe
backup software, and I see a few disadvantages.

Riverbed, if you're listening, you haven't made a friend today by using
my website to post SPAM, but I am willing to listen if you want to
convince me otherwise.

---
W. Curtis Preston
Backup Blog @ www.backupcentral.com
VP Data Protection, GlassHouse Technologies 

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 Performing backups at every remote site is complicated, expensive and
 risky too. Doing backup across the WAN is easier, reliable, and more
 secure.
 
 Have you experimented Riverbed Copy Utility (RCU)?
 It would be a great fit.
 By overcoming bandwidth limitations and reducing network latency,
 Riverbed's WDS facilitates network-based backup approaches in most of
 the customer environments. Riverbed technology optimizes:
 1.Centralized backup and recovery of servers and desktop machines
 in remote offices
 2.Replication of centralized data repositories between data
 centers
 
 in your distributed enterprise for backing up large amounts of data.
 RCU for disaster recovery can also be used for your remote backup
 solution just as effectively.
 
 http://www.wdsforum.org/forum/index.php?act=attachtype=postid=10
 

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