Re: [Veritas-bu] Restore Netbackup from catastrophic failure of MasterServer

2008-04-18 Thread WEAVER, Simon (external)

Hi Morgan
Best thing to do is connect your robot / tape drives and install
NetBackup to the same level of Maintenenace Pack as before and then from
a CLI use BPRECOVER -l -m MediaCode -d TapeFormat
 
If it helps, sometimes its best to make a record of what the barcodes
are for catalog tapes, or store in a certain slot or take out each week
or alternate.
 
If you cannot find the media, then depending on how many tapes, you
could import each tape (may take 3 -4 hours per tape though).
 
Simon



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I am trying to recover my NetBackup and system data (catalog db and
system partitions) from my tape library. My master server (UNIX) crashed
and was unrecoverable.

I have reloaded Solaris and rebuilt my Partitions. I do not have the
data anywhere else. (Screwed up config I know, but I didn't build it) I
have been through the disaster recovery section of the manual. I cannot
find my catalog tape. I cannot get NetBackup working correctly. (I am
going to have to reinstall it)

I need to know how to find my catalog Tape?

 

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Re: [Veritas-bu] How to regain disk space from failed backup to DSU

2008-04-18 Thread Dave Markham
Aleksandr Nepomnyashchiy wrote:
 Dear Gurus,
 My apologies - it is probably very simple question.

 Files from failed backup to Disk Storage Unit are taking space (which
 I need immediately for other backups). How I can reclaim the space
 back?

 Thank you,
 Aleksandr
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Try expiring the image or crudely just deleting the image files from the 
disk location

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Re: [Veritas-bu] install client with ssh

2008-04-18 Thread Dave Markham
Now my friend that does sound like a very good plan.

I could also substitute the client name with a $ variable and pass it to 
the script.

It was just the service install areas i'm not too familiar with yet in 
sol10. I know you need to use inetadm and various things to make 
inetd.conf services usable.

Cheers

Nardello, John wrote:
 1)Do a normal /usr/openv/netbackup/bin/install_client_files ftp
 client to some Solaris 10 box in your environment. 
 2)On the client you'll now have a /tmp/bp directory on the client
 with all the needed files and stuff you need to automate future
 installs. 
 3)Hack the /tmp/bp/bin/client_config script to do automatic
 configuration of the CLIENT_NAME, REQUIRED_INTERFACE, other desired
 bp.conf entries, exclude_list, etc. 
 4)Copy in any additional files needed to support your hacking
 (i.e. exclude_list file, etc) to /tmp/bp
 4)tar up /tmp/bp and then you can use your favorite method to move
 the tarball onto any client that needs to be installed, untar it, then
 just run your hacked client_config script to automatically do the
 install and client configuration. 

 I will say you have to re-hack the client_config script at each new
 NetBackup version, or at least check it to make sure they haven't
 added/removed any files to/from the install, but otherwise it's been
 working pretty well here. I now have install tarballs I can get loaded
 onto any of our UNIX clients and Joe-SA can run a single command to do
 all the needed configuration. And my favorite part, I didn't have to
 start from scratch. =) 

 - John Nardello


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 Yeah good call, and i have done that before. Problem is i want to 
 install solaris 10 clients and i'd have to script all the service stuff 
 and im not totally up on solaris10 as yet ( i know i know i should be ).

 I have had some good responses and a couple of scripts passed to me so 
 thanks guys and i'm sure ill get it going

 D

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   
 Since it's solaris, it's really easy to just copy it from another
 working client, too.

 Grab the entire /usr/openv directory in a tarball and just untar it on
 the new machine.  Change the client name  other info in bp.conf.
 
 Grab
   
 the bp entries from /etc/services  /etc/inetd.conf and add them to
 the other client.  HUP the inetd daemon.  It should work.  Verify the
 bpcd port is listening correctly with netstat -a | grep bpcd.  You
 should see inetd listening to the bpcd port.

 Other than that, just finding the install script and replacing rsh
 with ssh works fine, too.  Of course, the trust relationship needs
 
 to
   
 be setup first (and the first contact made  host key accepted and all
 that other normal prep work.)

 -M 

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 Thanks dude, ill give the rsh rename a go. I know i tried this on
 
 older 
   
 versions and it didnt seem to work but Im happy editing scripts so
 
 will 
   
 set keys up and try.

 To answer some other replies :-

 Im not on v 6.5 and being in a large company with stupid rules and 
 customer change controls and accreditations etc i cant upgrade to 6.5
 soon.
 Im remotely managing hundreds of clients in a datacenter and putting a
 

   
 CD into a new client just is not feasible.

 There is nothing under the /usr/openv/netbackup/client/Solaris/ tree 
 which has sftp or ssh in it from the server install and so i assume 
 people who have these scripts have created them.

 I dont see any sftp or ssh install scripts under Linux or BSD client 
 directories either.

 If someone does have them would they mind mailing me a copy and i
 
 could 
   
 then try and hack the Solaris one.

 Weird thing is i cant see why it doesnt work globally replacing ftp
 
 with
   
 sftp as when i run a diff on my v5 scripts i cant see that much else
 
 has
   
 changed.

 Cheers


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 If you are willing to set up shared ssh keys between hosts you can 
 modify the
   
 /usr/openv/netbackup/client/Solaris/Solaris9/install_client
   
 
   
   
 
 script.  There is an install_client script for each OS version.  A 
 crude hack is to replace what Netbackup discovers for RSH and RCP
   
 with
   
 
   
   
 
 SSH and SCP.  If you don't want to modify the scripts, you could 
 rename RSH and RCP and replace them with a link to SSH and SCP.  We 
 don't use R commands anymore so 

Re: [Veritas-bu] Sharing drive in multiple NB domains

2008-04-18 Thread ckstehman
What type of domain are you referring to.  I would need more info about 
youir domains.
I know that you can partition/zone the drives on the SAN switch, and have 
two different backup
systems running.  However under this scenario, one system could not see 
the drives assigned to
the other, they each would have their own set of drives to use. 

What kind of tape library do you have?

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I am new to NB. I have two active NB 6.5 domains in one SAN. Is possible 
to share drives from tape libraries between two NB domains ( I have SSO 
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Re: [Veritas-bu] How to regain disk space from failed backup to DSU

2008-04-18 Thread Aleksandr Nepomnyashchiy
Dave,
Thank you for your answer.

A) Don't think I can expire files from failed backup - I think that
they never made it to the NetBackup database (because the backup
failed :) ) . At least I don't see files from failed backups in
bpimmedia -L output.

B) I am afraid that removing those files can confuse NetBackup.

I am looking for the way to tell NetBackup do garbage removal now
(this is NetBackup 3.4).

Thank you,
Aleksandr

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  Dear Gurus,
  My apologies - it is probably very simple question.
 
  Files from failed backup to Disk Storage Unit are taking space (which
  I need immediately for other backups). How I can reclaim the space
  back?
 
  Thank you,
  Aleksandr
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  Try expiring the image or crudely just deleting the image files from the
 disk location

  D

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[Veritas-bu] NetBackup protecting 30TB - 60TB NetApp over NDMP.

2008-04-18 Thread Jim Hall
I am a newb to the list. I have some experience with
NetBackup 5.1 MP4.

Anyways, I have an interesting problem. I have a
NetApp GX system that needs to be protected. It looks
like the best method would be to backup the unit using
NDMP. The problem we are running into, theoretically
at this moment as we design the backup system, is the
limitation of the cluster interconnect and the ability
to move up to 30TB, and in time 60TB of data across a
2GB FC link to a tape storage library. Doing the math,
we would never be able to use the netapp for what it
was designed for as the cluster-interconnects would be
continuously saturated. The reason for this (and this
is something I inherited) is that even though there
are 4 Heads, 1 Head is the owner of a metadata volume
that pretty much encompasses the entire unit, so 75%
of the data has to come across the cluster
interconnect (this is limited to 2Gb). 

We could re-arch the FS to balance across all 4 Head
nodes, but we still have a 2Gb limitation per node as
that is the fastest FC card available for these guys.

My idea is to implement some kind of synthetic full
strategy. That is, move as much data as possible for
an initial full to tape (we have a two week outage
coming up in a couple months), then create a disk
stage where we can store incrementals. As long as the
daily change rate allows us to move the incrementals
in say 8hrs or so (across Gbe or FC), I think we would
be fine. The question I have for everyone is, how long
should I expect it to take for 4 LTO4 drives in
combination with incrementals on say a thumper, to
generate a weekly full to tape (lets be harsh and say
we have a 10% change rate throughout the week). I want
to start at 30TB today and scale to 60TB over the next
18-24mos. 

Anyone have similar experiences?

What I am looking at is possibly using a x4500 as a
combined media server and disk storage unit.

Thanks,

Jim


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Re: [Veritas-bu] How to regain disk space from failed backup to DSU

2008-04-18 Thread Norman_Ellis
If you manually delete anything from disk I would highly suggest running a 
bpimage -cleanup so that your catalog is consistent. This is suppose to 
happen automatically but you may want to look at the command guide for the 
specific options so that it doesn't take so long to complete i.e. 
specifying client name or backup ID. Also, depending on how you are 
backing up to disk, you may not be able to realize your space savings 
until your disk appliances complete a cleaning cycle. For example, if you 
are using Data Domain devices, simply deleting the images from disk will 
not give you back that space. You have to allow the devices to complete a 
full cleaning cycle which is a 10 phase process and let me tell you, 
it can take a LONG TIME!! This of course depends on the amount of data you 
are purging. For the specific case with Data Domain devices, we do not use 
them with the VTL option so while it would still be true that a cleaning 
cycle would still need to complete the time that takes may be different.

Can any other Data Domain users out there add any color here??







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Aleksandr Nepomnyashchiy wrote:
 Dear Gurus,
 My apologies - it is probably very simple question.

 Files from failed backup to Disk Storage Unit are taking space (which
 I need immediately for other backups). How I can reclaim the space
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disk location

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Re: [Veritas-bu] sniff...bpgp is gone from 6.5

2008-04-18 Thread Ed Wilts
On Thu, Apr 17, 2008 at 11:21 PM, Stump, Bob A [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 Just wondering if you NetBackup 6.5 admins can check to see if bprsh
 still is available. bprsh is similar to remsh or rsh


Yup, it's still there.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] bin]# ls -l /usr/openv/netbackup/bin/admincmd/bprsh
-r-xr-xr-x   1 root bin64380 Nov 16 10:42
/usr/openv/netbackup/bin/admincmd/bprsh


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Re: [Veritas-bu] bpflist command problems

2008-04-18 Thread BeDour, Wayne
I ran across the bplist command also and changed my script to use it.
All is working fine now.

Thanks for the help..

 

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IT Unix System Administrator

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Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] bpflist command problems

 

This is how I use it (5.1 MP5)

bpflist -option GET_ALL_FILES -policy policy -client client -d
04/17/2008 00:00:00 -e 04/17/2008 23:00:00 /

I always use bplist. Here is the syntax

bplist -C client -S master server -t 0 -k policy name -l
-unix_files -s 04/17/2008 -e 04/17/2008 -R /

-Shyam

On Thu, Apr 17, 2008 at 9:03 PM, BeDour, Wayne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Our environment is HP-UX 11.11, Netbackup 5.1 MP3 backing up mostly HP
unix with some Sun and Windows backups.  I have been using the bpflist
command in a script to parse out files that have been backed up.  We
moved the master server to a new host using the same hostname and ip
address (HP-UX 11.3). I just found that my script using bpflist is no
longer working, I can only get it to list off files backed up from one
policy.  The command that works is:

bpflist -option GET_ALL_FILES -class sfd-elmer2-unix -client elmer2 -d
12/09/01 00:00:00 -e 12/31/10 00:00:00

If I change the policy name after -class to another valid policy name, I
get the following:

no entity was found

There were good backups from the other policy name but the bpflist
command is not finding what files were backed up.

Anyone have any suggestions what is going on?  Again, this had been
working fine, the only change is that we changed servers.

Thanks in advance,.

 

 

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Re: [Veritas-bu] sniff...bpgp is gone from 6.5

2008-04-18 Thread Stump, Bob A
Makes no sense that they remove a command that allows putting or getting
a file on a client yet leave bprsh.

bprsh allows root to run any command that is in the
/usr/openv/netbackup/bin or volmgr/bin as root on a client.

Any command could potentially be placed into those directories. It
doesn't have to be a NetBackup command.

bpgp is like a speck of sawdust in the eye of security while bprsh would
be a plank. (NIV paraphrase)

 

 



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On Thu, Apr 17, 2008 at 11:21 PM, Stump, Bob A [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Just wondering if you NetBackup 6.5 admins can check to see if
bprsh
still is available. bprsh is similar to remsh or rsh


Yup, it's still there.
 

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-r-xr-xr-x   1 root bin64380 Nov 16 10:42
/usr/openv/netbackup/bin/admincmd/bprsh


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[Veritas-bu] Sharing drive in multiple NB domains

2008-04-18 Thread Slusarski

I have two different NetBackup zones. In witch one NB 6.5 server is running. 
Every zone of NB is in different lokalization. In first domain there is 10 
clientsincluding 2 entherprise (SAN). The first one is production. There in 
Informix database with HADR (replication over IP)  to second replication. In 
every lokalization there is library (IBM TS3200) with two drives. NB server in 
first lokalization has SSO=4 and NB server in second lokalization is NB server 
5 clients 1 ent. client (SAN) and SSO=2. I don't want to use partitioning of 
library in the level on library. I would like to use NB server in first 
lokalization and use two drivers in first lokalization and two in second 
lokalization (to share drives in second lokalization ) a can see WWN of drives 
and library. The second library in controled and used (two drives) by second NB 
server. So because I can see drives ofer the SAN fron first lokalization I 
wonder If I could use it (NB server in first lokalization). Who would operate 
the changer ?
The changer of library is used by second NB server ( in second NB domain).
That configuration would be comfortable for mi because I could make two copies 
of data at the same time in two different libraries in two lokalization. In 
sytuation of crash in first lokalization I still could be able to import tapes 
from first NB server lokated in second library.

For example I have similar sytuation in two Tivoli Storage Server and there is  
 possible to share one library in SAN between two or more TSM servers. One of 
its must become library manager and others communicate with library manager 
over IP to send order of mounting tape   in drive slot.
Thanks

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[Veritas-bu] Sharing drive in multiple NB domains

2008-04-18 Thread Slusarski

I have  read in NB Shared Storege Option.pdf
To share robotic libraries without using the Shared Storage Option
You can share robotic tape libraries among multiple NetBackup media servers by 
using any of the following methods. These capabilities are not related to 
Shared Storage Option and should not be confused with Shared Storage Option.
#9632;
NetBackup allows different drives within the same robotic library to be 
configured on different media servers. This capability is termed shared library 
support. Robot types that support shared library are ACS, TL8, TLD, TLH, TLM.
#9632;
Some robot vendors also let you partition libraries. One partitioned view of 
the robotic library includes one set of drives, while the other view has a 
different set of drives in the library. Partitions lets two robotic control 
daemons on different control hosts manage the robotic library — possibly each 
for a different NetBackup master and media server environment.
#9632;
Use multiple NetBackup master servers that share a common media and device 
management domain. This means that the master servers use the same EMM server

is propably my sytuation.

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Re: [Veritas-bu] How to regain disk space from failed backup to DSU

2008-04-18 Thread Johnson, Eric

I have had this happen to me. The file system log corrupted and the disk
was returning I/O errors, so there were partial images on the DSSU, but
it purged the associated catalog data when the backup failed.

Try the bpexpdate to expire the images first. If NetBackup tells you the
image doesn't exist, then you'll have to delete the files manually. This
won't confuse NetBackup since there's no corresponding image info in the
catalog about these files.

Eric


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DSU

Dave,
Thank you for your answer.

A) Don't think I can expire files from failed backup - I think that
they never made it to the NetBackup database (because the backup
failed :) ) . At least I don't see files from failed backups in
bpimmedia -L output.

B) I am afraid that removing those files can confuse NetBackup.

I am looking for the way to tell NetBackup do garbage removal now
(this is NetBackup 3.4).

Thank you,
Aleksandr

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 Aleksandr Nepomnyashchiy wrote:

 
 
 
  Dear Gurus,
  My apologies - it is probably very simple question.
 
  Files from failed backup to Disk Storage Unit are taking space
(which
  I need immediately for other backups). How I can reclaim the space
  back?
 
  Thank you,
  Aleksandr
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  Try expiring the image or crudely just deleting the image files from
the
 disk location

  D



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Re: [Veritas-bu] How to regain disk space from failed backup to DSU

2008-04-18 Thread Aleksandr Nepomnyashchiy
Norman,
Thank you for your reply.

Looks like bpimage from NetBackup 3.4 doesn't have -cleanup
option... I am a bit scared to remove the files myself.
Veritas document 875-1921-10 Datacenter 3.4 System Administrator
Guide UNIX doesn't even list bpimage in NetBackup Commands chapter
:).

[EMAIL PROTECTED] /usr/local/nagios2/local/conf/mtpMonitor #
/netbackup/openv/netbackup/bin/admincmd/bpimage
bpimage: -[de]compress [-allclients | -client name]
bpimage: [-M master_server,...,master_server]
bpimage: -npc copy # -backupid backup_id [-client name]
bpimage: -newserver name [-oldserver name] [-id id]
bpimage: -deletecopy # -backupid backup_id
bpimage: -testlock # -backupid backup_id
bpimage: -prunetir [-allclients | -client name]
bpimage: -create_image_list -client name
bpimage: -index n -client name
bpimage: -wff path bytes -backupid backup_id [-client name]
bpimage: -update [-secinfo [0|1] | -rfile [0|1] |
-filesysonly [0|1] |
-numfiles number | -keyword keyword phrase |
-objdesc string]
[-client name -class name -t type -d mm/dd/ hh:mm:ss]
[-client name -d mm/dd/ hh:mm:ss]
[-id backup_id]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] /usr/local/nagios2/local/conf/mtpMonitor #

Aleksandr

On Fri, Apr 18, 2008 at 9:39 AM,  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 If you manually delete anything from disk I would highly suggest running a
 bpimage -cleanup so that your catalog is consistent. This is suppose to
 happen automatically but you may want to look at the command guide for the
 specific options so that it doesn't take so long to complete i.e. specifying
 client name or backup ID. Also, depending on how you are backing up to disk,
 you may not be able to realize your space savings until your disk appliances
 complete a cleaning cycle. For example, if you are using Data Domain
 devices, simply deleting the images from disk will not give you back that
 space. You have to allow the devices to complete a full cleaning cycle which
 is a 10 phase process and let me tell you, it can take a LONG TIME!!
 This of course depends on the amount of data you are purging. For the
 specific case with Data Domain devices, we do not use them with the VTL
 option so while it would still be true that a cleaning cycle would still
 need to complete the time that takes may be different.

 Can any other Data Domain users out there add any color here??








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 Aleksandr Nepomnyashchiy wrote:
   Dear Gurus,
   My apologies - it is probably very simple question.
  
   Files from failed backup to Disk Storage Unit are taking space (which
   I need immediately for other backups). How I can reclaim the space
   back?
  
   Thank you,
   Aleksandr
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  Try expiring the image or crudely just deleting the image files from the
  disk location

  D
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Re: [Veritas-bu] How to regain disk space from failed backup to DSU

2008-04-18 Thread Shyam Hazari
You can safely delete the files. When I was @ 5.1 MP3, I had the same
problem. It used to leave partial images on the DSSU's. I used to manually
delete the files. It went away with MP5

-Shyam

On Fri, Apr 18, 2008 at 1:52 PM, Aleksandr Nepomnyashchiy [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 Norman,
 Thank you for your reply.

 Looks like bpimage from NetBackup 3.4 doesn't have -cleanup
 option... I am a bit scared to remove the files myself.
 Veritas document 875-1921-10 Datacenter 3.4 System Administrator
 Guide UNIX doesn't even list bpimage in NetBackup Commands chapter
 :).

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] /usr/local/nagios2/local/conf/mtpMonitor #
 /netbackup/openv/netbackup/bin/admincmd/bpimage
 bpimage: -[de]compress [-allclients | -client name]
 bpimage: [-M master_server,...,master_server]
 bpimage: -npc copy # -backupid backup_id [-client name]
 bpimage: -newserver name [-oldserver name] [-id id]
 bpimage: -deletecopy # -backupid backup_id
 bpimage: -testlock # -backupid backup_id
 bpimage: -prunetir [-allclients | -client name]
 bpimage: -create_image_list -client name
 bpimage: -index n -client name
 bpimage: -wff path bytes -backupid backup_id [-client name]
 bpimage: -update [-secinfo [0|1] | -rfile [0|1] |
-filesysonly [0|1] |
-numfiles number | -keyword keyword phrase |
 -objdesc string]
[-client name -class name -t type -d mm/dd/
 hh:mm:ss]
[-client name -d mm/dd/ hh:mm:ss]
[-id backup_id]
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] /usr/local/nagios2/local/conf/mtpMonitor #

 Aleksandr

 On Fri, Apr 18, 2008 at 9:39 AM,  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  If you manually delete anything from disk I would highly suggest running
 a
  bpimage -cleanup so that your catalog is consistent. This is suppose to
  happen automatically but you may want to look at the command guide for
 the
  specific options so that it doesn't take so long to complete i.e.
 specifying
  client name or backup ID. Also, depending on how you are backing up to
 disk,
  you may not be able to realize your space savings until your disk
 appliances
  complete a cleaning cycle. For example, if you are using Data Domain
  devices, simply deleting the images from disk will not give you back
 that
  space. You have to allow the devices to complete a full cleaning cycle
 which
  is a 10 phase process and let me tell you, it can take a LONG TIME!!
  This of course depends on the amount of data you are purging. For the
  specific case with Data Domain devices, we do not use them with the VTL
  option so while it would still be true that a cleaning cycle would still
  need to complete the time that takes may be different.
 
  Can any other Data Domain users out there add any color here??
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  Dave Markham [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
  04/18/2008 07:04 AM
 
  Please respond to
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  Subject Re: [Veritas-bu] How to regain disk space from failed backup to
 DSU
 
 
 
 
 
  Aleksandr Nepomnyashchiy wrote:
Dear Gurus,
My apologies - it is probably very simple question.
   
Files from failed backup to Disk Storage Unit are taking space (which
I need immediately for other backups). How I can reclaim the space
back?
   
Thank you,
Aleksandr
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   Try expiring the image or crudely just deleting the image files from
 the
   disk location
 
   D
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Re: [Veritas-bu] How to regain disk space from failed backup to DSU

2008-04-18 Thread Nardello, John
My favorite technote of all time, if slightly dated. =) 

http://seer.support.veritas.com/docs/236274.htm 

Contains info on running cleanups manually, as well as info on a
why-the-heck-isn't-it-a-default!!! touchfile. 

If you want to see what NetBackup has been doing for cleanup lately (all
one line):
egrep Cleanup running in background|delete_expired_backups:
deleted /usr/openv/netbackup/logs/bpdbm/log.*


-John Nardello


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Aleksandr Nepomnyashchiy
Sent: Friday, April 18, 2008 11:52 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] How to regain disk space from failed backup to
DSU

Norman,
Thank you for your reply.

Looks like bpimage from NetBackup 3.4 doesn't have -cleanup
option... I am a bit scared to remove the files myself.
Veritas document 875-1921-10 Datacenter 3.4 System Administrator
Guide UNIX doesn't even list bpimage in NetBackup Commands chapter
:).

[EMAIL PROTECTED] /usr/local/nagios2/local/conf/mtpMonitor #
/netbackup/openv/netbackup/bin/admincmd/bpimage
bpimage: -[de]compress [-allclients | -client name]
bpimage: [-M master_server,...,master_server]
bpimage: -npc copy # -backupid backup_id [-client name]
bpimage: -newserver name [-oldserver name] [-id id]
bpimage: -deletecopy # -backupid backup_id
bpimage: -testlock # -backupid backup_id
bpimage: -prunetir [-allclients | -client name]
bpimage: -create_image_list -client name
bpimage: -index n -client name
bpimage: -wff path bytes -backupid backup_id [-client name]
bpimage: -update [-secinfo [0|1] | -rfile [0|1] |
-filesysonly [0|1] |
-numfiles number | -keyword keyword phrase |
-objdesc string]
[-client name -class name -t type -d mm/dd/
hh:mm:ss]
[-client name -d mm/dd/ hh:mm:ss]
[-id backup_id]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] /usr/local/nagios2/local/conf/mtpMonitor #

Aleksandr

On Fri, Apr 18, 2008 at 9:39 AM,  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 If you manually delete anything from disk I would highly suggest
running a
 bpimage -cleanup so that your catalog is consistent. This is suppose
to
 happen automatically but you may want to look at the command guide for
the
 specific options so that it doesn't take so long to complete i.e.
specifying
 client name or backup ID. Also, depending on how you are backing up to
disk,
 you may not be able to realize your space savings until your disk
appliances
 complete a cleaning cycle. For example, if you are using Data Domain
 devices, simply deleting the images from disk will not give you back
that
 space. You have to allow the devices to complete a full cleaning cycle
which
 is a 10 phase process and let me tell you, it can take a LONG
TIME!!
 This of course depends on the amount of data you are purging. For the
 specific case with Data Domain devices, we do not use them with the
VTL
 option so while it would still be true that a cleaning cycle would
still
 need to complete the time that takes may be different.

 Can any other Data Domain users out there add any color here??








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 Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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 Please respond to
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to DSU





 Aleksandr Nepomnyashchiy wrote:
   Dear Gurus,
   My apologies - it is probably very simple question.
  
   Files from failed backup to Disk Storage Unit are taking space
(which
   I need immediately for other backups). How I can reclaim the space
   back?
  
   Thank you,
   Aleksandr
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   http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
  
  
  Try expiring the image or crudely just deleting the image files from
the
  disk location

  D
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Re: [Veritas-bu] How to regain disk space from failed backup to DSU

2008-04-18 Thread Ed Wilts
On Fri, Apr 18, 2008 at 2:24 PM, Nardello, John [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 My favorite technote of all time, if slightly dated. =)

 http://seer.support.veritas.com/docs/236274.htm

 Contains info on running cleanups manually, as well as info on a
 why-the-heck-isn't-it-a-default!!! touchfile.


The reason it's not the default is that it can cause backups to fail.  Been
there, done that, wasn't pretty.

If you want to see what NetBackup has been doing for cleanup lately (all
 one line):
egrep Cleanup running in background|delete_expired_backups:
 deleted /usr/openv/netbackup/logs/bpdbm/log.*


In 6.5, you can now see the image cleanups in the activity monitor.

There's a reason my Veritas/Symantec spends a lot of time developing new
releases...they really do fix (and sometimes create :-)) bugs, design
issues, and add new features.

   .../Ed

-- 
Ed Wilts, Mounds View, MN, USA
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[Veritas-bu] mystery directory showing up - %SysTrustDir%

2008-04-18 Thread Brian J. Greenberg
Has anyone seen where a directory shows up with perms of 700 named
%SysTrustDir%

drwx--  2 root root 4096 Apr 17 18:41 %SysTrustDir%

Incidentally, there's nothing in that directory.

It's all over the place on my NBU v.6.0MP6 environment and caused my
catalogue backup to fail because it was in the staging directory and NBU
couldn't delete it.  Once I deleted it the catalogue backup ran fine.  But
something is creating it and I think it's NBU when it does a backup.  I
know, it doesn't make sense but I can't think of anything else.

Any ideas?
-- 
Brian J. Greenberg
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