Re: [Veritas-bu] Most recent stable release?

2008-08-20 Thread Ed Wilts
On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 12:11 PM, Rice, Robert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>  Just wondering what the consensus is on the most recent stable release of
> NBU for Solaris 10 using LTO4?
>

6.5.1 with a couple of Engineering binaries is a good stable environment
today.  We were there for over 6 months and it was fairly solid.

There are some features that are in 6.5.2 - if you need them, you don't have
much choice.  Be aware that you may need some engineering binaries for 6.5.2
as well.

.../Ed

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Re: [Veritas-bu] Most recent stable release?

2008-08-20 Thread Hudson, Steve
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We've been using 6.5.1 on HP-UX and other than the error messages for
vaulting it seems relatively stable.

 

We've NOT upgraded to 6.5.2 or 6.5.2a mainly due to all the issues
reported on this list.

 



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I'll offer up: Not 6.5.1, 6.5.2 or v6.5.2A as a limited answer.

 

I've been fighting bugs for 3 weeks on this version (6.5.2A) and their
emergency nbpem patch for it fixes a known 9 bugs and there's at least
one more (since the latest version doesn't fix my problem either).

 

I upgraded from 6.5.1 since it had a bug, too, on resource allocation.

 

This is on a Sol 8 master server, however.

 

-M

 



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Hi all,

 

Just wondering what the consensus is on the most recent stable release
of NBU for Solaris 10 using LTO4?  

 

Thanks in advance,

Bob

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Re: [Veritas-bu] Most recent stable release?

2008-08-20 Thread Justin Piszcz
6.0MP6 here, LTO-2, LTO-3, LTO-4, Catalog Compression/in some 
environments, in-line tape copy.. No major issues..


On Wed, 20 Aug 2008, Rice, Robert wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> Just wondering what the consensus is on the most recent stable release of NBU 
> for Solaris 10 using LTO4?
>
> Thanks in advance,
> Bob
>
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Re: [Veritas-bu] Most recent stable release?

2008-08-20 Thread Jeff Lightner
We've been using 6.5.1 on HP-UX and other than the error messages for
vaulting it seems relatively stable.

 

We've NOT upgraded to 6.5.2 or 6.5.2a mainly due to all the issues
reported on this list.

 



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I'll offer up: Not 6.5.1, 6.5.2 or v6.5.2A as a limited answer.

 

I've been fighting bugs for 3 weeks on this version (6.5.2A) and their
emergency nbpem patch for it fixes a known 9 bugs and there's at least
one more (since the latest version doesn't fix my problem either).

 

I upgraded from 6.5.1 since it had a bug, too, on resource allocation.

 

This is on a Sol 8 master server, however.

 

-M

 



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Hi all,

 

Just wondering what the consensus is on the most recent stable release
of NBU for Solaris 10 using LTO4?  

 

Thanks in advance,

Bob
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Re: [Veritas-bu] Most recent stable release?

2008-08-20 Thread Mark.Donaldson
I'll offer up: Not 6.5.1, 6.5.2 or v6.5.2A as a limited answer.
 
I've been fighting bugs for 3 weeks on this version (6.5.2A) and their
emergency nbpem patch for it fixes a known 9 bugs and there's at least
one more (since the latest version doesn't fix my problem either).
 
I upgraded from 6.5.1 since it had a bug, too, on resource allocation.
 
This is on a Sol 8 master server, however.
 
-M



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Hi all,

 

Just wondering what the consensus is on the most recent stable release
of NBU for Solaris 10 using LTO4?  

 

Thanks in advance,

Bob

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[Veritas-bu] Most recent stable release?

2008-08-20 Thread Rice, Robert
Hi all,

Just wondering what the consensus is on the most recent stable release of NBU 
for Solaris 10 using LTO4?

Thanks in advance,
Bob
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[Veritas-bu] Using Datalink for NetBackup Support

2008-08-20 Thread schmaustech

Our environment uses Datalink for support on Netbackup, our Protectier VTL and 
our STK L700 tape library.  For the most part support is like that with any 
other 3rd party vendor.  Sometimes you get a good technician and sometimes you 
get a bad one.  

I should also note though that some of the technicians that work for Datalink 
support use to work at Symantec in Netbackup support.  If you get one of them 
you are lucky since they really know what they are talking about.

How do I know this?  I use to work at Symantec in Netbackup support as well.

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Re: [Veritas-bu] Backup Reports in NBU 5.1 - Query on the Data BackedUp!

2008-08-20 Thread Nardello, John
Yes, when you use the Windows filesystem compression the OS has to
uncompress the data before it sends it to NetBackup. Filesystem
compression does a wonderful job of slowing down your backups and
beating on the disks. 
 
- John Nardello



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Evening all 

Wonder if I can seek some clarification. NBU 5.1+MP5+Win2k3 Server
Master plus multiple SAN/Clients 

I went to run a report "Client Backups" and wanted to see how many kb's
were written during the backup. According to the Report, 3500984336kb
backed up. This is approx 3,500GB or 3.41TB's  :-)

However, according to Windows itself, it claims that it shows 2.3TB of
Data on the volumes. The volumes are compressed, so I wondered if
NetBackup Report is showing uncompressed size?

Has anyone seen this? 
Thanks 
Simon 

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[Veritas-bu] MSEO Agent Backup Error

2008-08-20 Thread dy018

Hi Bill, thanks again for the reply. Really appreciate your help as not many 
administrator doing MSEO for their environment.

I do not have access to the server now, so i cant extract the cgsb.log now.

I think there are no communication problems between all my MSEO SAN Media 
Server and Security Server (Master Server). This is because during installation 
of MSEO at SAN Media Servers, the installation manage to complete with the key 
display to prompt user to trust it and also the security server pem record also 
had an entry of the newly installed SAN Media Server, hence i do believe they 
are communicating without problem.

I also did suspect there might be problems with the MSEO Policy, but what i did 
was purely copy from the default policy and rename it to another name. At the 
same time, i've delete rule1 and this, the default rule2 bcomes rule1 and rule3 
bcome rule2 instead. 

In my backup policy's keyphase, i've entered
 KeyGroup=Keys_01; KeyType=aes128; Compress=lzrw3; 

This keyphase worked for my master server (Windows) which is also the security 
server as well, but it hit status 84 when i tried to do the exact same thing on 
my SAN Media Server regardless of OS.

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Re: [Veritas-bu] Device configuration issue

2008-08-20 Thread WEAVER, Simon (external)

What platform are you on? I had a similar problem in Windows, and ended
up killing the NetBackup processes to get around this.

Simon 

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Greetings,

We're having some problems with device configuration on our media
servers.  We normally run "tpautoconf -a -v" with great success, but now
it seems to think that another device configuration is already in
progress.  We get the message "Another device configuration is already
in progress.".  Additionally, when we try to configure the devices
manually using tpconfig, there is no confirmation message indicating the
device was successfully added.  There is also no error message
indicating failure.  It just silently ignores it.

Has anyone else seen this behavior?  We had this problem a couple weeks
ago, and restarting NetBackup on the master server cured it, however,
I'd like to know more about the problem.

Jack L. Forester, Jr.
UNIX Systems Administrator, Stf
Lockheed Martin Information Technology
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Re: [Veritas-bu] Device configuration issue

2008-08-20 Thread Forester, Jack L
The master server is Solaris 10.  The problem is affecting all media
servers...solaris, hp-ux, and windows.  I checked for the tpac.lock file
on the master, but no joy.

Jack L. Forester, Jr.
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What platform are you on? I had a similar problem in Windows, and ended
up killing the NetBackup processes to get around this.

Simon 

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Greetings,

We're having some problems with device configuration on our media
servers.  We normally run "tpautoconf -a -v" with great success, but now
it seems to think that another device configuration is already in
progress.  We get the message "Another device configuration is already
in progress.".  Additionally, when we try to configure the devices
manually using tpconfig, there is no confirmation message indicating the
device was successfully added.  There is also no error message
indicating failure.  It just silently ignores it.

Has anyone else seen this behavior?  We had this problem a couple weeks
ago, and restarting NetBackup on the master server cured it, however,
I'd like to know more about the problem.

Jack L. Forester, Jr.
UNIX Systems Administrator, Stf
Lockheed Martin Information Technology
(304) 625-3946

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[Veritas-bu] Backup Reports in NBU 5.1 - Query on the Data Backed Up!

2008-08-20 Thread WEAVER, Simon (external)

Evening all

Wonder if I can seek some clarification. NBU 5.1+MP5+Win2k3 Server
Master plus multiple SAN/Clients

I went to run a report "Client Backups" and wanted to see how many kb's
were written during the backup. According to the Report, 3500984336kb
backed up. This is approx 3,500GB or 3.41TB's  :-)

However, according to Windows itself, it claims that it shows 2.3TB of
Data on the volumes. The volumes are compressed, so I wondered if
NetBackup Report is showing uncompressed size?

Has anyone seen this?
Thanks
Simon


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Re: [Veritas-bu] verify catalog backup

2008-08-20 Thread WEAVER, Simon (external)

you can use bprecover with the switch -l which will list the header (at
least it allows the Tape to be loaded by NetBackup and verify the
content header.
Also, bpverify might be useful. I am sorry, I am unsure if it is a
feature in 5.0 but it is in 5.1.

Also, could this not be done from the GUI within the Master Server
(Launch console, click on "catalog" left side of the pane window).

Simon

 

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is there a way to read and verify a catalog backup tape?  this is for a
5.0 mp5 environment.

thanks

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Re: [Veritas-bu] MSEO Agent Backup Error

2008-08-20 Thread Bill Roth
"Number data buffers" probably isn't the issue.

"Could not process the request because somthing was missing from server" and
"vmtape error1":

Each media server configured with MSEO connects to one or more MSEO security
servers at backup and restore time.

Check the MSEO log on whatever server you have configured as the MSEO
security server for the media server with the 84 error.
- "Something missing" isn't real specific but /var/log/cgsb.log (on the MSEO
Security server) may provide additional detail
- You've probably already executed cgconfig server on the failing media
server and that it correctly lists one or more MSEO security servers
- You've probably already executed cgadmin add host on the MSEO security
server

Assuming you don't have a communication issue between the media server and
security server there may be an issue with the MSEO policy
assigned to this host. Are you using the default MSEO policy or have you
created an MSEO policy specifically for this media server?

1) What are the log entires in /var/log/cgsb.log on the MSEO security
server?
2) What MSEO policy are you using for this host?

Thanks, Bill

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> Hi Bill,
>
> I've tried reducing the buffer size as what you stated but the problem
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[Veritas-bu] verify catalog backup

2008-08-20 Thread X_S

is there a way to read and verify a catalog backup tape?  this is for a 5.0 mp5 
environment.

thanks

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Re: [Veritas-bu] Veritas NetBackup 6.0 Media Manager SA's Guide

2008-08-20 Thread Justin Piszcz
On Wed, 20 Aug 2008, BeDour, Wayne wrote:

>
> Anyone have the link for the "Veritas NetBackup 6.0 Media Manager SA's
> Guide " or one for 6.5 if it is out there?  I've been looking on
> Symantec's site but am having no luck.
>
> Thanks in advance...
>
>
>
> Wayne BeDour
>
> Unix System Administrator
>
> PH: 313-593-9876
>
> Internet:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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They are usually all in here:
ftp://ftp.nbu.support.veritas.com/pub/support/products/NetBackup_Enterprise_Server/

But nicely named ones, there is a description URL somewhere..

Here we go, all of the 6.5 manuals:
http://seer.entsupport.symantec.com/docs/290282.htm

Justin.

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[Veritas-bu] Device configuration issue

2008-08-20 Thread Forester, Jack L
Greetings,

We're having some problems with device configuration on our media
servers.  We normally run "tpautoconf -a -v" with great success, but now
it seems to think that another device configuration is already in
progress.  We get the message "Another device configuration is already
in progress.".  Additionally, when we try to configure the devices
manually using tpconfig, there is no confirmation message indicating the
device was successfully added.  There is also no error message
indicating failure.  It just silently ignores it.

Has anyone else seen this behavior?  We had this problem a couple weeks
ago, and restarting NetBackup on the master server cured it, however,
I'd like to know more about the problem.

Jack L. Forester, Jr.
UNIX Systems Administrator, Stf
Lockheed Martin Information Technology
(304) 625-3946

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[Veritas-bu] Veritas NetBackup 6.0 Media Manager SAs Guide

2008-08-20 Thread Andy_Welburn

Listing of Veritas NetBackup (tm) 6.5 Manuals and links to the respective 
technotes:
http://seer.entsupport.symantec.com/docs/290282.htm

Listing of Veritas NetBackup (tm) 6.0 Manuals and links to the respective 
technotes:
http://seer.entsupport.symantec.com/docs/287039.htm

HTH, Andy.

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[Veritas-bu] Veritas NetBackup 6.0 Media Manager SA's Guide

2008-08-20 Thread BeDour, Wayne

Anyone have the link for the "Veritas NetBackup 6.0 Media Manager SA's
Guide " or one for 6.5 if it is out there?  I've been looking on
Symantec's site but am having no luck.

Thanks in advance...

 

Wayne BeDour

Unix System Administrator

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[Veritas-bu] NetBackup 6.0 to 6.5.1 - PrePrep?

2008-08-20 Thread Randy Samora
When I upgraded from 5.1 to 6.0 I had to run the nbcc utility and have
Symantec take a look at the results and help me stabilize my database
prior to the upgrade.  Is that necessary/recommended with the 6.0 to 6.5
upgrade?  Anyone have any gotcha's I should know about?  Anyone already
go through this and you're in the Houston area bored silly and feeling
charitable?

 

Thanks in advance,

Randy

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Re: [Veritas-bu] Windows 2008 Client

2008-08-20 Thread WEAVER, Simon (external)

You could use the "Internal" Win2k8 backup system, and locate the backup
file to disk, and the NetBackup client could then backup to tape!
 
Ok, not the best way, but a supported work around
 
Simon



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On Tue, Aug 19, 2008 at 12:41 PM, Martin, Jonathan
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From what little testing I did here backups work but not
restores. 


That doesn't sound very useful :-)

It sounds to me like even if you did testing and it appeared to work, do
you really, really want your production servers to have an unsupported
backup configuration?
   
It also sounds like if you only want to back on non-OS files, you'll be
okay.  You just need to have another plan if you wipe out the system
disk.
 

.../Ed 



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Re: [Veritas-bu] NetBackup Migration 5.1 -> 6.5

2008-08-20 Thread WEAVER, Simon (external)

hi John
thanks. That is part of the problem, in that the hardware is becoming
troublesome.
 
So my plan was to install clean v 5.1 and then upgrade. Then slowly
migrate the client systems over to the new server. Eventually the old
server will be closed down.
 
Simon



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I recently pondered the same questions and chose to build a new
environment with 6.5 rather than upgrading the existing 5.1 servers. 

I can't speak for the SAN media servers as we don't have any but if you
are upgrading to 6.5 you will need to install 5.1 on the new servers
install your license keys and then upgrade to 6.5. Chances are your
license keys will not install on a virgin 6.5 server if they are 5.x
license keys.

As for question 3. I can't imagine how Symantec could ever consider that
a violation if you choose to upgrade via a clean install on new
hardware. What if your existing server failed, could you be expected to
buy new licenses if you had to rebuild on new hardware. As I see it I
probably saved Symantec a bunch of support calls by starting clean on a
new server.

john


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Hi all, 
I am weighing up the pros and cons to either do an "in place"
upgrade or "migration". 

I just wanted to know if anyone had any pros or cons to this.
The Environment constsits of 10+ SAN SSO Media Servers, 1 Master, 1
Robot.

In place should be easy, but Symantec are identifying many, many
issues with the current environment, that concerns me that the upgrade
will not go clean.

Starting afresh for the Master means I will migrate clients and
policies over from the old system to the new one. 

Just a couple of quick questions: 

1) My License key is for upgrade. Would it still work if 5.1 was
not installed on the "clean" new Server? 
2) for the SAN Media Servers, any cons I need to be aware of
when upgrading them and pointing them to the new Master Server

3) Does this violate the license agreement by using the new key
on new clean hardware? What if I turn off the Master, install 5.1 on the
new Server with my current license, and then use the upgrade license key
for NBU 6.5

Apprecaite the comments and advice. 

Thanks 

Regards 

Simon 

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Re: [Veritas-bu] Windows 2008 Client

2008-08-20 Thread WEAVER, Simon (external)

Randy
Like me, probably find out that something is implemented, and you need
an agent to do an online backup, or discover (like you have) that Win2k8
isnt supported on the current platform!
 
Backups seem to be the last thing people think about when implementing
new solutions :(
Simon



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There's no harm in testing, thanks.  I bet the server team will check
with me first next time.  Yeah, right!

 

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I doubt it. The OS Compatibility Matrix says that for Windows 2008, the
minimum client is 6.5.2... Now, you MIGHT be able to use 6.5.1, but I
doubt it. I'm pretty sure that there will be code changes introduced
with the 6.5.2 client that allows it to work under Windows 2008. If you
have a dev-box around somewhere though that's Windows 2008 you can try
the 6.5.1 client there to see if it works.

 



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I'm at 6.0 and was really hoping to upgrade to 6.5.1 next week and not
very anxious to go to 6.5.2 just yet from what I'm reading.  The server
team decided to start rolling out 2008 Server servers without checking
for compatibility so now I have clients I can't backup.  Is there any
other way besides upgrading to .2 to resolve this?

Thanks,

Randy

 



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Re: [Veritas-bu] Windows 2008 Client

2008-08-20 Thread WEAVER, Simon (external)

Hi randy
I think 6.5.2 is the latest to support Win2k8
 
Simon



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I'm at 6.0 and was really hoping to upgrade to 6.5.1 next week and not
very anxious to go to 6.5.2 just yet from what I'm reading.  The server
team decided to start rolling out 2008 Server servers without checking
for compatibility so now I have clients I can't backup.  Is there any
other way besides upgrading to .2 to resolve this?

Thanks,

Randy

 



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[Veritas-bu] MSEO Agent Backup Error

2008-08-20 Thread dy018

Hi Bill,

I've tried reducing the buffer size as what you stated but the problem still 
persist, do we need to change the NUMBER_DATA_BUFFERS as well? we are setting 
at 256 at the moment.

Regards

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