Re: [Veritas-bu] Error 50 for all backups
Your master server was probably rebooted. Check System logs. -Original Message- From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu [mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of NBU Sent: 02 April 2010 01:55 PM To: VERITAS-BU@MAILMAN.ENG.AUBURN.EDU Subject: [Veritas-bu] Error 50 for all backups where i have to check this on my master or media. Robot is configured on master and tape drives on media. +-- |This was sent by qureshiu...@rediffmail.com via Backup Central. |Forward SPAM to ab...@backupcentral.com. +-- ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Drive Configuration
You will need to rebuild the sg driver. Try the following: # cd /usr/openv/volmgr/bin/driver # /usr/openv/volmgr/bin/sg.build all -mt 15 -ml 1 Install the new sg driver configuration: # /usr/bin/rm -f /kernel/drv/sg.conf # /usr/openv/volmgr/bin/driver/sg.install # /usr/openv/volmgr/bin/sgscan tape Regards M. -Original Message- From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu [mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of NBU Sent: 02 April 2010 01:57 PM To: VERITAS-BU@MAILMAN.ENG.AUBURN.EDU Subject: [Veritas-bu] Drive Configuration Hi Forum, My env. has 1 Master on Sol 10 with 6.5.5 and 4 media server with 24 drives. I am adding 2 more to one of my media server. I am getting the following output from tpconfig. r...@p100xmed04 # /opt/openv/volmgr/bin/tpconfig -l Device Robot Drive Robot Drive Device Second Type Num Index Type DrNum Status Comment Name Path Device Path robot 0 - TLD - - - - MASTERBKP drive - 0 hcart3 14 UP - IBM.ULTRIUM-TKP-Drive14 /dev/rmt/0cbn drive - 1 hcart3 13 UP - IBM.ULTRIUM-TKP-Drive13 /dev/rmt/1cbn drive - 2 hcart3 16 UP - IBM.ULTRIUM-TKP-Drive16 /dev/rmt/2cbn drive - 3 hcart3 15 UP - IBM.ULTRIUM-TKP-Drive15 /dev/rmt/3cbn drive - 4 hcart3 17 UP - IBM.ULTRIUM-TKP-Drive17 /dev/rmt/6cbn drive - 5 hcart3 18 UP - IBM.ULTRIUM-TKP-Drive18 /dev/rmt/7cbn Out of scan command. r...@p100xmed04 # /opt/openv/volmgr/bin/scan -tape *** SDT_TAPE Device Name : /dev/rmt/0cbn Passthru Name: /dev/sg/c0t0l0#8243; Volume Header: Port: -1; Bus: -1; Target: -1; LUN: -1 Inquiry : HP Ultrium 3-SCSI M63S Vendor ID : HP Product ID : Ultrium 3-SCSI Product Rev: M63S Serial Number: HU10737URK WWN : WWN Id Type : 0 Device Identifier: Device Type : SDT_TAPE NetBackup Drive Type: 16 Removable : Yes Device Supports: SCSI-3 Flags : 0×0 Reason: 0×0 Device Name : /dev/rmt/1cbn Passthru Name: /dev/sg/c1t0l0#8243; Volume Header: Port: -1; Bus: -1; Target: -1; LUN: -1 Inquiry : HP Ultrium 3-SCSI M63S Vendor ID : HP Product ID : Ultrium 3-SCSI Product Rev: M63S Serial Number: HU10737WLT WWN : WWN Id Type : 0 Device Identifier: Device Type : SDT_TAPE NetBackup Drive Type: 16 Removable : Yes Device Supports: SCSI-3 Flags : 0×0 Reason: 0×0 Device Name : /dev/rmt/2cbn Passthru Name: /dev/sg/c2t0l0#8243; Volume Header: Port: -1; Bus: -1; Target: -1; LUN: -1 Inquiry : HP Ultrium 3-SCSI M63S Vendor ID : HP Product ID : Ultrium 3-SCSI Product Rev: M63S Serial Number: HU10737UN4#8243; WWN : WWN Id Type : 0 Device Identifier: Device Type : SDT_TAPE NetBackup Drive Type: 16 Removable : Yes Device Supports: SCSI-3 Flags : 0×0 Reason: 0×0 Device Name : /dev/rmt/3cbn Passthru Name: /dev/sg/c3t0l0#8243; Volume Header: Port: -1; Bus: -1; Target: -1; LUN: -1 Inquiry : HP Ultrium 3-SCSI M63S Vendor ID : HP Product ID : Ultrium 3-SCSI Product Rev: M63S Serial Number: HU10737WHN WWN : WWN Id Type : 0 Device Identifier: Device Type : SDT_TAPE NetBackup Drive Type: 16 Removable : Yes Device Supports: SCSI-3 Flags : 0×0 Reason: 0×0 Device Name : /dev/rmt/6cbn Passthru Name: /dev/sg/c10t0l0#8243; Volume Header: Port: -1; Bus: -1; Target: -1; LUN: -1 Inquiry : IBM ULTRIUM-TD3 54K1#8243; Vendor ID : IBM Product ID : ULTRIUM-TD3 Product Rev: 54K1#8243; Serial Number: 1210059897#8243; WWN : WWN Id Type : 0 Device Identifier: IBM ULTRIUM-TD3 1210059897#8243; Device Type : SDT_TAPE NetBackup Drive Type: 16 Removable : Yes Device Supports: SCSI-3 Flags : 0×0 Reason: 0×0 Device Name : /dev/rmt/7cbn Passthru Name: /dev/sg/c11t0l0#8243; Volume Header: Port: -1; Bus: -1; Target: -1; LUN: -1 Inquiry : IBM ULTRIUM-TD3 54K1#8243; Vendor ID : IBM Product ID : ULTRIUM-TD3 Product Rev: 54K1#8243; Serial Number: 1210060164#8243; WWN : WWN Id Type : 0 Device Identifier: IBM ULTRIUM-TD3 1210060164#8243; Device Type : SDT_TAPE NetBackup Drive Type: 16 Removable : Yes Device Supports: SCSI-3 Flags : 0×0 Reason: 0×0 But when i am going through Device Configuration through GUI it shows me 6 tape drive detected and after that screen it doesn't shows me the actual drives in the last screen after which we need to commit the configuration it only shows 4 drives checked. Can u help.. +-- |This was sent by qureshiu...@rediffmail.com via Backup Central. |Forward SPAM to ab...@backupcentral.com. +-- ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Backups not running, just stuck at Connecting.
Might be a total shot in the dark, but check on the client to see if you have any bpstart scripts that run. Windows (eg:, C:\Program Files\VERITAS\Netbackup\bin\bpstart_notify*.bat) Unix (eg: /usr/openv/netbackup/bin/bpstart_notify*) Maybe a script is waiting on something... From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu [mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of Jeff Cleverley Sent: April 3, 2010 7:01 PM To: VERITAS-BU@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Backups not running, just stuck at Connecting. If the log directories are in place, go to /usr/openv/netbackup/logs. Look for entries in directories like bpcd, bprd, and bptm. Hopefully you will find some clues in there. If these directories are not here, create them and then stop/start NetBackup, and run the jobs again. I had a similar issue on mine where I ran a job from the master for a media server. The media server went into mount request but did not show up on the master. I had to go to the media server to find the issue and confirm the mount request after putting in more tapes. There isn't much in your current post about the environment (OS, master/media servers, policy type that hangs, tape libraries,etc) so I don't know what may apply. Hope this helps. Jeff On Sat, Apr 3, 2010 at 4:36 AM, LemonRuski netbackup-fo...@backupcentral.com wrote: Veritas Netbackup 5.1 Need guidance on how to check / troubleshoot and solve this problem. I trigger a backup and it shows : - started process bpbrm (pid=13602) - connecting - connected; connect time 0:00:00 Then that's it. Sometimes it goes from Connecting to Mounting but nothing happens. No data written. Wait for hours and finally I need to kill the job and it end with error code 150. Please advice. ^_^ Thanks in advance. *Netbackup newbie* +-- |This was sent by rtm...@yahoo.com via Backup Central. |Forward SPAM to ab...@backupcentral.com. +-- ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu -- Jeff Cleverley Unix Systems Administrator 4380 Ziegler Road Fort Collins, Colorado 80525 970-288-4611 La version française suit le texte anglais. This email may contain privileged and/or confidential information, and the Bank of Canada does not waive any related rights. Any distribution, use, or copying of this email or the information it contains by other than the intended recipient is unauthorized. If you received this email in error please delete it immediately from your system and notify the sender promptly by email that you have done so. Le présent courriel peut contenir de l'information privilégiée ou confidentielle. La Banque du Canada ne renonce pas aux droits qui s'y rapportent. Toute diffusion, utilisation ou copie de ce courriel ou des renseignements qu'il contient par une personne autre que le ou les destinataires désignés est interdite. Si vous recevez ce courriel par erreur, veuillez le supprimer immédiatement et envoyer sans délai à l'expéditeur un message électronique pour l'aviser que vous avez éliminé de votre ordinateur toute copie du courriel reçu. ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Error 50 for all backups
When you sent your original email you said your jobs were frequently being killed with error 50 so it sounded like they would fail with error 50 while the server was running. Is it just one or two or do a whole collection of jobs seem to die together during the backup window? Or do you just come into the office and notice the jobs have died with error 50? If it's a collection - next time you observe the error occurring run /usr/sbin/swap -l or /usr/sbin/swap -s and check how much free swap space you have. Alternatively setup a cron job to run the swap and date command every minute or so and output it to a txt file so you can track what is happening. You should also run an all log entry report during covering the timeline of the error and look for any fork errors If you think the system could be getting rebooted during the backup window you can check by: Run the uptime command and check how long you system has been up for You can also just hit w and enter. Or you can also check the /var/adm/messages file Check if a reboot could have occurred during your backup window Good luck :-) -Original Message- From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu [mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of Marianne Van Den Berg Sent: 06 April 2010 09:36 To: VERITAS-BU@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Error 50 for all backups Your master server was probably rebooted. Check System logs. -Original Message- From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu [mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of NBU Sent: 02 April 2010 01:55 PM To: VERITAS-BU@MAILMAN.ENG.AUBURN.EDU Subject: [Veritas-bu] Error 50 for all backups where i have to check this on my master or media. Robot is configured on master and tape drives on media. +-- |This was sent by qureshiu...@rediffmail.com via Backup Central. |Forward SPAM to ab...@backupcentral.com. +-- ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Backups not running, just stuck at Connecting.
Also - is this a multi-streamed job? There may be more info in one of the other jobs associated with it From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu [mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of Jonathan Dyck Sent: 06 April 2010 14:50 To: Jeff Cleverley; VERITAS-BU@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Backups not running, just stuck at Connecting. Might be a total shot in the dark, but check on the client to see if you have any bpstart scripts that run. Windows (eg:, C:\Program Files\VERITAS\Netbackup\bin\bpstart_notify*.bat) Unix (eg: /usr/openv/netbackup/bin/bpstart_notify*) Maybe a script is waiting on something... From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu [mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of Jeff Cleverley Sent: April 3, 2010 7:01 PM To: VERITAS-BU@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Backups not running, just stuck at Connecting. If the log directories are in place, go to /usr/openv/netbackup/logs. Look for entries in directories like bpcd, bprd, and bptm. Hopefully you will find some clues in there. If these directories are not here, create them and then stop/start NetBackup, and run the jobs again. I had a similar issue on mine where I ran a job from the master for a media server. The media server went into mount request but did not show up on the master. I had to go to the media server to find the issue and confirm the mount request after putting in more tapes. There isn't much in your current post about the environment (OS, master/media servers, policy type that hangs, tape libraries,etc) so I don't know what may apply. Hope this helps. Jeff On Sat, Apr 3, 2010 at 4:36 AM, LemonRuski netbackup-fo...@backupcentral.com wrote: Veritas Netbackup 5.1 Need guidance on how to check / troubleshoot and solve this problem. I trigger a backup and it shows : - started process bpbrm (pid=13602) - connecting - connected; connect time 0:00:00 Then that's it. Sometimes it goes from Connecting to Mounting but nothing happens. No data written. Wait for hours and finally I need to kill the job and it end with error code 150. Please advice. ^_^ Thanks in advance. *Netbackup newbie* +-- |This was sent by rtm...@yahoo.com via Backup Central. |Forward SPAM to ab...@backupcentral.com. +-- ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu -- Jeff Cleverley Unix Systems Administrator 4380 Ziegler Road Fort Collins, Colorado 80525 970-288-4611 La version française suit le texte anglais. This email may contain privileged and/or confidential information, and the Bank of Canada does not waive any related rights. Any distribution, use, or copying of this email or the information it contains by other than the intended recipient is unauthorized. If you received this email in error please delete it immediately from your system and notify the sender promptly by email that you have done so. Le présent courriel peut contenir de l'information privilégiée ou confidentielle. La Banque du Canada ne renonce pas aux droits qui s'y rapportent. Toute diffusion, utilisation ou copie de ce courriel ou des renseignements qu'il contient par une personne autre que le ou les destinataires désignés est interdite. Si vous recevez ce courriel par erreur, veuillez le supprimer immédiatement et envoyer sans délai à l'expéditeur un message électronique pour l'aviser que vous avez éliminé de votre ordinateur toute copie du courriel reçu. ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
[Veritas-bu] Link name too long
I got a client failing with status code 10. The error I see in bpbkar is link name too long. Any easy fix ? TIA -Shyam ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] NBU7 / De-Dupe?
Has anybody tried client side de-dup with something other than a puredisk pool? (puredisk or netbackup 7 disk pool) It is my understanding (which could be incorrect;-) that you can't use netbackup 7 client side de-dup with any other type of disk pool. ie you can't use data domain on the backend when using client side dedup. Thanks! Scott Chapman Senior Technical Specialist Storage and Database Administration ICBC - Victoria Ph: 250.414.7650 Cell: 250.213.9295 From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu [mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of David Stanaway Sent: Friday, April 02, 2010 6:29 AM To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] NBU7 / De-Dupe? These number aren't that hot compared to DataDomain from my use of it. We are seeing 86TB of backup images occupying 4.4TB of phys disk. On 4/1/2010 12:07 PM, Jon Bousselot wrote: I set it up in a small test environment, and started backing up three clients into a deduplication pool exclusively. 2 windows and 1 linux system The first pass wasn't that impressive, maybe a 5% to 10% de-dup ratio and it took a bit longer than just streaming that same data to tape or disk. The second pass had a 90% deduplication ratio, mostly because just 1 week had passed since the first full backup and not every file changed. After three weeks, I had about 300GB of data deduplicated down into about 90GB of disk space. The kbytes total reported from the catalog said 300G, and df -k said 90G. The data content of the three systems is typical for a user workstation. Email, photos, miscellaneous files. De-dup let me put many versions of those same files into a backup without actually having many copies of that file spinning on disk. And then the disk holding the de-duplicated data developed a bunch of bad sectors and I lost it all. Once I rebuild it, I'll check out the DR process for protecting your de-dup database and files. I also want to test client side de-duplication to see if that helps stream data compared to media server de-duplication alone. The media/master server is a quad core with 8g ram, and the clients are a desktop and a laptop. After seeing it run and observing the space savings it generates, I think it is a very creative way to solve some (not all) problems. It is definitely not a set it and forget it technology. You still need to monitor its utilization similar to how you would monitor basic disk or tape usage. -Jon From: Justin Piszcz jpis...@lucidpixels.com mailto:jpis...@lucidpixels.com To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Sent: Thu, April 1, 2010 3:27:36 AM Subject: [Veritas-bu] NBU7 / De-Dupe? Hi, Is anyone using de-dupe? What kind of savings are you seeing? Justin. ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu This email and any attachments are intended only for the named recipient and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any unauthorized copying, dissemination or other use by a person other than the named recipient of this communication is prohibited. If you received this in error or are not named as a recipient, please notify the sender and destroy all copies of this email immediately. ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Link name too long
Hi, How long is it? Over 1023 characters? Justin. On Tue, 6 Apr 2010, Shyam Hazari wrote: I got a client failing with status code 10. The error I see in bpbkar is link name too long. Any easy fix ? TIA -Shyam ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] NBU7 / De-Dupe?
I believe you are correct, I asked if it was possible to do it with tape (crazy!) idea but no response yet =) It looks like its limited to Puredisk/NBU7 disk tool. On Tue, 6 Apr 2010, Chapman, Scott wrote: Has anybody tried client side de-dup with something other than a puredisk pool? (puredisk or netbackup 7 disk pool) It is my understanding (which could be incorrect;-) that you can't use netbackup 7 client side de-dup with any other type of disk pool. ie you can't use data domain on the backend when using client side dedup. Thanks! Scott Chapman Senior Technical Specialist Storage and Database Administration ICBC - Victoria Ph: 250.414.7650 Cell: 250.213.9295 From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu [mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of David Stanaway Sent: Friday, April 02, 2010 6:29 AM To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] NBU7 / De-Dupe? These number aren't that hot compared to DataDomain from my use of it. We are seeing 86TB of backup images occupying 4.4TB of phys disk. On 4/1/2010 12:07 PM, Jon Bousselot wrote: I set it up in a small test environment, and started backing up three clients into a deduplication pool exclusively. 2 windows and 1 linux system The first pass wasn't that impressive, maybe a 5% to 10% de-dup ratio and it took a bit longer than just streaming that same data to tape or disk. The second pass had a 90% deduplication ratio, mostly because just 1 week had passed since the first full backup and not every file changed. After three weeks, I had about 300GB of data deduplicated down into about 90GB of disk space. The kbytes total reported from the catalog said 300G, and df -k said 90G. The data content of the three systems is typical for a user workstation. Email, photos, miscellaneous files. De-dup let me put many versions of those same files into a backup without actually having many copies of that file spinning on disk. And then the disk holding the de-duplicated data developed a bunch of bad sectors and I lost it all. Once I rebuild it, I'll check out the DR process for protecting your de-dup database and files. I also want to test client side de-duplication to see if that helps stream data compared to media server de-duplication alone. The media/master server is a quad core with 8g ram, and the clients are a desktop and a laptop. After seeing it run and observing the space savings it generates, I think it is a very creative way to solve some (not all) problems. It is definitely not a set it and forget it technology. You still need to monitor its utilization similar to how you would monitor basic disk or tape usage. -Jon From: Justin Piszcz jpis...@lucidpixels.com mailto:jpis...@lucidpixels.com To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Sent: Thu, April 1, 2010 3:27:36 AM Subject: [Veritas-bu] NBU7 / De-Dupe? Hi, Is anyone using de-dupe? What kind of savings are you seeing? Justin. ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu This email and any attachments are intended only for the named recipient and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any unauthorized copying, dissemination or other use by a person other than the named recipient of this communication is prohibited. If you received this in error or are not named as a recipient, please notify the sender and destroy all copies of this email immediately. ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] NBU7 / De-Dupe?
I have been working on this as well, trying to get media server dedup working. I am caught in a type of chicken/egg loop. I can't create a PureDisk storage unit, because I don't have a disk pool, but when I go to create a disk pool, I don't have any volumes available. Just exactly what volume is it looking for? Googling around, it would appear that my media server doing the dedup would need to be PDOS. The documentation says that RHEL 5 is a supported OS for media server dedup. What gives? BTW to Justin, there is no way to dedup to tape. None, nada, never. From: Justin Piszcz jpis...@lucidpixels.com To: Chapman, Scott scott.chap...@icbc.com Cc: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Date: 04/06/2010 12:03 PM Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] NBU7 / De-Dupe? Sent by: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu I believe you are correct, I asked if it was possible to do it with tape (crazy!) idea but no response yet =) It looks like its limited to Puredisk/NBU7 disk tool. On Tue, 6 Apr 2010, Chapman, Scott wrote: Has anybody tried client side de-dup with something other than a puredisk pool? (puredisk or netbackup 7 disk pool) It is my understanding (which could be incorrect;-) that you can't use netbackup 7 client side de-dup with any other type of disk pool. ie you can't use data domain on the backend when using client side dedup. Thanks! Scott Chapman Senior Technical Specialist Storage and Database Administration ICBC - Victoria Ph: 250.414.7650 Cell: 250.213.9295 From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu [mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of David Stanaway Sent: Friday, April 02, 2010 6:29 AM To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] NBU7 / De-Dupe? These number aren't that hot compared to DataDomain from my use of it. We are seeing 86TB of backup images occupying 4.4TB of phys disk. On 4/1/2010 12:07 PM, Jon Bousselot wrote: I set it up in a small test environment, and started backing up three clients into a deduplication pool exclusively. 2 windows and 1 linux system The first pass wasn't that impressive, maybe a 5% to 10% de-dup ratio and it took a bit longer than just streaming that same data to tape or disk. The second pass had a 90% deduplication ratio, mostly because just 1 week had passed since the first full backup and not every file changed. After three weeks, I had about 300GB of data deduplicated down into about 90GB of disk space. The kbytes total reported from the catalog said 300G, and df -k said 90G. The data content of the three systems is typical for a user workstation. Email, photos, miscellaneous files. De-dup let me put many versions of those same files into a backup without actually having many copies of that file spinning on disk. And then the disk holding the de-duplicated data developed a bunch of bad sectors and I lost it all. Once I rebuild it, I'll check out the DR process for protecting your de-dup database and files. I also want to test client side de-duplication to see if that helps stream data compared to media server de-duplication alone. The media/master server is a quad core with 8g ram, and the clients are a desktop and a laptop. After seeing it run and observing the space savings it generates, I think it is a very creative way to solve some (not all) problems. It is definitely not a set it and forget it technology. You still need to monitor its utilization similar to how you would monitor basic disk or tape usage. -Jon From: Justin Piszcz jpis...@lucidpixels.com mailto:jpis...@lucidpixels.com To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Sent: Thu, April 1, 2010 3:27:36 AM Subject: [Veritas-bu] NBU7 / De-Dupe? Hi, Is anyone using de-dupe? What kind of savings are you seeing? Justin. ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu This email and any attachments are intended only for the named recipient and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any unauthorized copying, dissemination or other use by a person other than the named recipient of this communication is prohibited. If you received this in error or are not named as a recipient, please notify the sender and destroy all copies of this email immediately. ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu PLEASE NOTE: The preceding information may be confidential or privileged. It only should be used or disseminated for the
Re: [Veritas-bu] NBU7 / De-Dupe?
Hi Scott, I followed the NetBackup 7 De Dupe guide it explains how to create the puredisk storage unit / disk pool etc. Justin. On Tue, 6 Apr 2010, scott.geo...@parker.com wrote: I have been working on this as well, trying to get media server dedup working. I am caught in a type of chicken/egg loop. I can't create a PureDisk storage unit, because I don't have a disk pool, but when I go to create a disk pool, I don't have any volumes available. Just exactly what volume is it looking for? Googling around, it would appear that my media server doing the dedup would need to be PDOS. The documentation says that RHEL 5 is a supported OS for media server dedup. What gives? BTW to Justin, there is no way to dedup to tape. None, nada, never. From: Justin Piszcz jpis...@lucidpixels.com To: Chapman, Scott scott.chap...@icbc.com Cc: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Date: 04/06/2010 12:03 PM Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] NBU7 / De-Dupe? Sent by: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu I believe you are correct, I asked if it was possible to do it with tape (crazy!) idea but no response yet =) It looks like its limited to Puredisk/NBU7 disk tool. On Tue, 6 Apr 2010, Chapman, Scott wrote: Has anybody tried client side de-dup with something other than a puredisk pool? (puredisk or netbackup 7 disk pool) It is my understanding (which could be incorrect;-) that you can't use netbackup 7 client side de-dup with any other type of disk pool. ie you can't use data domain on the backend when using client side dedup. Thanks! Scott Chapman Senior Technical Specialist Storage and Database Administration ICBC - Victoria Ph: 250.414.7650 Cell: 250.213.9295 From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu [mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of David Stanaway Sent: Friday, April 02, 2010 6:29 AM To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] NBU7 / De-Dupe? These number aren't that hot compared to DataDomain from my use of it. We are seeing 86TB of backup images occupying 4.4TB of phys disk. On 4/1/2010 12:07 PM, Jon Bousselot wrote: I set it up in a small test environment, and started backing up three clients into a deduplication pool exclusively. 2 windows and 1 linux system The first pass wasn't that impressive, maybe a 5% to 10% de-dup ratio and it took a bit longer than just streaming that same data to tape or disk. The second pass had a 90% deduplication ratio, mostly because just 1 week had passed since the first full backup and not every file changed. After three weeks, I had about 300GB of data deduplicated down into about 90GB of disk space. The kbytes total reported from the catalog said 300G, and df -k said 90G. The data content of the three systems is typical for a user workstation. Email, photos, miscellaneous files. De-dup let me put many versions of those same files into a backup without actually having many copies of that file spinning on disk. And then the disk holding the de-duplicated data developed a bunch of bad sectors and I lost it all. Once I rebuild it, I'll check out the DR process for protecting your de-dup database and files. I also want to test client side de-duplication to see if that helps stream data compared to media server de-duplication alone. The media/master server is a quad core with 8g ram, and the clients are a desktop and a laptop. After seeing it run and observing the space savings it generates, I think it is a very creative way to solve some (not all) problems. It is definitely not a set it and forget it technology. You still need to monitor its utilization similar to how you would monitor basic disk or tape usage. -Jon From: Justin Piszcz jpis...@lucidpixels.com mailto:jpis...@lucidpixels.com To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Sent: Thu, April 1, 2010 3:27:36 AM Subject: [Veritas-bu] NBU7 / De-Dupe? Hi, Is anyone using de-dupe? What kind of savings are you seeing? Justin. ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu This email and any attachments are intended only for the named recipient and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any unauthorized copying, dissemination or other use by a person other than the named recipient of this communication is prohibited. If you received this in error or are not named as a recipient, please notify the sender and destroy all copies of this email immediately. ___ Veritas-bu maillist -
Re: [Veritas-bu] NBU7 / De-Dupe?
I think various OST plugin providers are working on that for future release. Sent on the Sprint® Now Network from my BlackBerry® -Original Message- From: Justin Piszcz jpis...@lucidpixels.com Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2010 12:04:19 To: Chapman, Scottscott.chap...@icbc.com Cc: David Stanawayda...@stanaway.net; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] NBU7 / De-Dupe? I believe you are correct, I asked if it was possible to do it with tape (crazy!) idea but no response yet =) It looks like its limited to Puredisk/NBU7 disk tool. On Tue, 6 Apr 2010, Chapman, Scott wrote: Has anybody tried client side de-dup with something other than a puredisk pool? (puredisk or netbackup 7 disk pool) It is my understanding (which could be incorrect;-) that you can't use netbackup 7 client side de-dup with any other type of disk pool. ie you can't use data domain on the backend when using client side dedup. Thanks! Scott Chapman Senior Technical Specialist Storage and Database Administration ICBC - Victoria Ph: 250.414.7650 Cell: 250.213.9295 From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu [mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of David Stanaway Sent: Friday, April 02, 2010 6:29 AM To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] NBU7 / De-Dupe? These number aren't that hot compared to DataDomain from my use of it. We are seeing 86TB of backup images occupying 4.4TB of phys disk. On 4/1/2010 12:07 PM, Jon Bousselot wrote: I set it up in a small test environment, and started backing up three clients into a deduplication pool exclusively. 2 windows and 1 linux system The first pass wasn't that impressive, maybe a 5% to 10% de-dup ratio and it took a bit longer than just streaming that same data to tape or disk. The second pass had a 90% deduplication ratio, mostly because just 1 week had passed since the first full backup and not every file changed. After three weeks, I had about 300GB of data deduplicated down into about 90GB of disk space. The kbytes total reported from the catalog said 300G, and df -k said 90G. The data content of the three systems is typical for a user workstation. Email, photos, miscellaneous files. De-dup let me put many versions of those same files into a backup without actually having many copies of that file spinning on disk. And then the disk holding the de-duplicated data developed a bunch of bad sectors and I lost it all. Once I rebuild it, I'll check out the DR process for protecting your de-dup database and files. I also want to test client side de-duplication to see if that helps stream data compared to media server de-duplication alone. The media/master server is a quad core with 8g ram, and the clients are a desktop and a laptop. After seeing it run and observing the space savings it generates, I think it is a very creative way to solve some (not all) problems. It is definitely not a set it and forget it technology. You still need to monitor its utilization similar to how you would monitor basic disk or tape usage. -Jon From: Justin Piszcz jpis...@lucidpixels.com mailto:jpis...@lucidpixels.com To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Sent: Thu, April 1, 2010 3:27:36 AM Subject: [Veritas-bu] NBU7 / De-Dupe? Hi, Is anyone using de-dupe? What kind of savings are you seeing? Justin. ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu This email and any attachments are intended only for the named recipient and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any unauthorized copying, dissemination or other use by a person other than the named recipient of this communication is prohibited. If you received this in error or are not named as a recipient, please notify the sender and destroy all copies of this email immediately. ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Link name too long
The 10 code says this: The system memory allocation fails because of insufficient system memory available. A possible cause is that the system is overloaded with too many processes and not enough physical or virtual memory. Try the following: Free up memory by terminating any unneeded processes that consume memory. Add more swap space or physical memory. If running more than one job at a time on the client, see if you can limit it to just one job (via master server properties clients) From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu [mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of Shyam Hazari Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 2010 10:54 AM To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: [Veritas-bu] Link name too long I got a client failing with status code 10. The error I see in bpbkar is link name too long. Any easy fix ? TIA -Shyam ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Link name too long
Yep, more than 1023 chars. On Tue, Apr 6, 2010 at 11:03 AM, Justin Piszcz jpis...@lucidpixels.comwrote: Hi, How long is it? Over 1023 characters? Justin. On Tue, 6 Apr 2010, Shyam Hazari wrote: I got a client failing with status code 10. The error I see in bpbkar is link name too long. Any easy fix ? TIA -Shyam ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Link name too long
Hi, Then you'll need to reduce the link length, it is limited at that amount. Justin. On Tue, 6 Apr 2010, Shyam Hazari wrote: Yep, more than 1023 chars. On Tue, Apr 6, 2010 at 11:03 AM, Justin Piszcz jpis...@lucidpixels.comwrote: Hi, How long is it? Over 1023 characters? Justin. On Tue, 6 Apr 2010, Shyam Hazari wrote: I got a client failing with status code 10. The error I see in bpbkar is link name too long. Any easy fix ? TIA -Shyam ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
[Veritas-bu] Type de stockage pour donn�es d�dupliqu�es
Bonjour à tous, Je viens de lire la version C (du 1 avril) concernant la déduplication NetBackup 7.0. Il est mentionné que seul le DAS ou le FC est supporté (pas de CIFS, NFS et bizarement ISCSI). Quelqu'un a de l'expérience sur le sujet ? Je ne vois pas vraiment pourquoi le protocole ISCSI ne fonctionnerait pas. Merci d'avance pour vos réponses. Cordialement. +-- |This was sent by philippe.ducho...@infoniqa.com via Backup Central. |Forward SPAM to ab...@backupcentral.com. +-- ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
[Veritas-bu] NDMP backups
All, I am trying to run NDMP backups with certain paths and I am getting error 99 in the GUI, and the error ndmp_data_start_backup failed, status = 9 (NDMP_ILLEGAL_ARGS_ERR). The policy is setup as follows: Backup Selections: NEW_STREAM /vol/vol2/data/[A-M]* NEW_STREAM /vol/vol2/data/[a-m]* If I setup the policy to just backup /vol/vol2/data it works. This is on Netbackup 6.5.3 and is connecting to a Netapp via IP (can't connect it via fibre). And the OS of the master/media servers are SuSE linux. Thanks. -Kevin ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
[Veritas-bu] Type de stockage pour donn�es d�dupliqu�es
For those interested, the google english translation of the previous post is: Hello everyone, I just read the C version (April 1) on deduplication NetBackup 7.0. It is mentioned that only the DAS or FC is supported (not CIFS, NFS and iSCSI bizare). Someone has experience on the subject? I do not really see why the iSCSI protocol does not work. Thank you in advance for your answers. Regards. +-- |This was sent by wcplis...@gmail.com via Backup Central. |Forward SPAM to ab...@backupcentral.com. +-- ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Type de stockage pour données déd upliquées
2010/4/6 cpreston netbackup-fo...@backupcentral.com For those interested, the google english translation of the previous post is: Hello everyone, I just read the C version (April 1) on deduplication NetBackup 7.0. It is mentioned that only the DAS or FC is supported (not CIFS, NFS and iSCSI bizare). Someone has experience on the subject? I do not really see why the iSCSI protocol does not work. Thank you in advance for your answers. I would guess that it has to do with supportability and fear rather than a technical reason why it doesn't work. After all, there's no reason that you can't put a Sybase database on NFS but Symantec refuses to support it and won't support any part of the catalog or the EMM database on NFS. With 10GigE these days, iSCSI should be doable. 10GigE will outperform 2Gbps FC... I can see why NFS or CIFS would have issues - locking, etc - but iSCSI should really not be an issue. Some days I really, really wish Symantec would update their support documentation to say why something isn't supported. We don't know if it's because they didn't test it or if they tested it and it failed. There's a HUGE difference. Ed Wilts, RHCE, BCFP, BCSD, SCSP, SCSE ewi...@ewilts.org Linkedin http://www.linkedin.com/in/ewilts ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Type de stockage pour données déd upliquées
Sure - that's easy for YOU to say. :-) -Original Message- From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu [mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of filduch Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 2010 5:21 AM To: VERITAS-BU@MAILMAN.ENG.AUBURN.EDU Subject: [Veritas-bu] Type de stockage pour données dédupliquées Bonjour à tous, Je viens de lire la version C (du 1 avril) concernant la déduplication NetBackup 7.0. Il est mentionné que seul le DAS ou le FC est supporté (pas de CIFS, NFS et bizarement ISCSI). Quelqu'un a de l'expérience sur le sujet ? Je ne vois pas vraiment pourquoi le protocole ISCSI ne fonctionnerait pas. Merci d'avance pour vos réponses. Cordialement. +-- |This was sent by philippe.ducho...@infoniqa.com via Backup Central. |Forward SPAM to ab...@backupcentral.com. +-- Proud partner. Susan G. Komen for the Cure. Please consider our environment before printing this e-mail or attachments. -- CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail may contain privileged or confidential information and is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution, or use of the contents of this information is prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this electronic transmission in error, please reply immediately to the sender that you have received the message in error, and delete it. Thank you. -- ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] NDMP backups
Thanks Jonathan. That is fantastic news… Anyone know if that will change or has changed with version 7? From: Jonathan Dyck [mailto:jd...@bank-banque-canada.ca] Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 2010 1:34 PM To: Baumann, Kevin; VERITAS-BU@MAILMAN.ENG.AUBURN.EDU Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] NDMP backups Unfortunately (to my knowledge), wildcards are not supported with NDMP backups. You’ll have to explicitly supply the paths. What we do is: 1) Have a policy where you’ve explicitly listed paths, ie: a. /vol/vol1/first b. /vol/vol1/second 2) Have a second policy checking to see if new paths have been added. For us, that means: a. we’ve mounted via NFS the root of the volume, (ie: vol1) on the backup master server, b. and it’s backed up using a “Standard” backup policy for that mountpoint (cross mount points required). c.You exclude each in individual paths you are backing up in #1, d. and if the #2 backup policy ever grows larger than a set amount (32kB for example), we get an email saying something along the lines “a new vol1 path has been added” so, e. We have new paths to add to policy #1 Elegant eh? (read sarcastically of course) From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu [mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of Baumann, Kevin Sent: April 6, 2010 12:47 PM To: VERITAS-BU@MAILMAN.ENG.AUBURN.EDU Subject: [Veritas-bu] NDMP backups All, I am trying to run NDMP backups with certain paths and I am getting error 99 in the GUI, and the error ndmp_data_start_backup failed, status = 9 (NDMP_ILLEGAL_ARGS_ERR). The policy is setup as follows: Backup Selections: NEW_STREAM /vol/vol2/data/[A-M]* NEW_STREAM /vol/vol2/data/[a-m]* If I setup the policy to just backup /vol/vol2/data it works. This is on Netbackup 6.5.3 and is connecting to a Netapp via IP (can’t connect it via fibre). And the OS of the master/media servers are SuSE linux. Thanks. -Kevin La version française suit le texte anglais. This email may contain privileged and/or confidential information, and the Bank of Canada does not waive any related rights. Any distribution, use, or copying of this email or the information it contains by other than the intended recipient is unauthorized. If you received this email in error please delete it immediately from your system and notify the sender promptly by email that you have done so. Le présent courriel peut contenir de l'information privilégiée ou confidentielle. La Banque du Canada ne renonce pas aux droits qui s'y rapportent. Toute diffusion, utilisation ou copie de ce courriel ou des renseignements qu'il contient par une personne autre que le ou les destinataires désignés est interdite. Si vous recevez ce courriel par erreur, veuillez le supprimer immédiatement et envoyer sans délai à l'expéditeur un message électronique pour l'aviser que vous avez éliminé de votre ordinateur toute copie du courriel reçu. ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] 2 media servers under the same master?
That makes sense about splitting the vtl drives up between media servers, but I'm still confused about the robot. If robot is only defined on one media server, how does that work for the other media servers? They don't need a robot configured with a vtl? Does the robot need to be configured on the master and not a media server? Thanks... Wayne BeDour Unix System Administrator PH: 248-447-1739 Internet: wbed...@lear.com From: Stefaan Margot [mailto:stefaan.mar...@stmsolutions.be] Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2010 2:05 PM To: BeDour, Wayne Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] 2 media servers under the same master? Wayne, You do not need SSO. SSO is used for sharing physical tape drives. In case of a VTL, you create new Virtual drives and assign them to the new media server. That's it. So you are not sharing your drives! Just make sure that you use only one media server for robotic control. Best regards, Stefaan Op 01/04/10 19:46, BeDour, Wayne wbed...@lear.com schreef: Our environment, NBU 6.5.4 Master and separate media server running on HP-UX 11-31 with a Data Domain VTL and MSL6060 tape library. Can I add another media server and use the data domain vtl along with the other media server? Do I have to use SSO to share the vtl or will the master take care of the sharing? Thanks in advance for any advice. Wayne BeDour Unix System Administrator PH: 248-447-1739 Internet: wbed...@lear.com mailto:wbed...@lear.com mailto:wbed...@lear.com ** ** LEGAL DISCLAIMER ** ** This E-mail message and any attachments may contain legally privileged, confidential or proprietary information. If you are not the intended recipient(s), or the employee or agent responsible for delivery of this message to the intended recipient(s), you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this E-mail message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please immediately notify the sender and delete this E-mail message from your computer. ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu ** ** LEGAL DISCLAIMER ** ** This E-mail message and any attachments may contain legally privileged, confidential or proprietary information. If you are not the intended recipient(s), or the employee or agent responsible for delivery of this message to the intended recipient(s), you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this E-mail message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please immediately notify the sender and delete this E-mail message from your computer. ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] NDMP backups
On Tue, Apr 6, 2010 at 12:49 PM, Baumann, Kevin kbaum...@akamai.com wrote: Anyone know if that will change or has changed with version 7? ftp://exftpp.symantec.com/pub/support/products/NetBackup_Enterprise_Server/340109.pdf The following Backup Selections capabilities are NOT supported for an NDMP policy: ■ Wildcards in pathnames. For example, /home/* is an invalid entry. ■ Individual file names. Only directory or volume names are allowed. Page 47. Happy reading. .../Ed Ed Wilts, RHCE, BCFP, BCSD, SCSP, SCSE ewi...@ewilts.org Linkedin http://www.linkedin.com/in/ewilts *From:* Jonathan Dyck [mailto:jd...@bank-banque-canada.ca] *Sent:* Tuesday, April 06, 2010 1:34 PM *To:* Baumann, Kevin; VERITAS-BU@MAILMAN.ENG.AUBURN.EDU *Subject:* RE: [Veritas-bu] NDMP backups Unfortunately (to my knowledge), wildcards are not supported with NDMP backups. You’ll have to explicitly supply the paths. What we do is: 1) Have a policy where you’ve explicitly listed paths, ie: a. /vol/vol1/first b. /vol/vol1/second 2) Have a second policy checking to see if new paths have been added. For us, that means: a. we’ve mounted via NFS the root of the volume, (ie: vol1) on the backup master server, b. and it’s backed up using a “Standard” backup policy for that mountpoint (cross mount points required). c.You exclude each in individual paths you are backing up in #1, d. and if the #2 backup policy ever grows larger than a set amount (32kB for example), we get an email saying something along the lines “a new vol1 path has been added” so, e. We have new paths to add to policy #1 Elegant eh? (read sarcastically of course) *From:* veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu [mailto: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] *On Behalf Of *Baumann, Kevin *Sent:* April 6, 2010 12:47 PM *To:* VERITAS-BU@MAILMAN.ENG.AUBURN.EDU *Subject:* [Veritas-bu] NDMP backups All, I am trying to run NDMP backups with certain paths and I am getting error 99 in the GUI, and the error ndmp_data_start_backup failed, status = 9 (NDMP_ILLEGAL_ARGS_ERR). The policy is setup as follows: Backup Selections: NEW_STREAM /vol/vol2/data/[A-M]* NEW_STREAM /vol/vol2/data/[a-m]* If I setup the policy to just backup /vol/vol2/data it works. This is on Netbackup 6.5.3 and is connecting to a Netapp via IP (can’t connect it via fibre). And the OS of the master/media servers are SuSE linux. Thanks. -Kevin La version française suit le texte anglais. This email may contain privileged and/or confidential information, and the Bank of Canada does not waive any related rights. Any distribution, use, or copying of this email or the information it contains by other than the intended recipient is unauthorized. If you received this email in error please delete it immediately from your system and notify the sender promptly by email that you have done so. Le présent courriel peut contenir de l'information privilégiée ou confidentielle. La Banque du Canada ne renonce pas aux droits qui s'y rapportent. Toute diffusion, utilisation ou copie de ce courriel ou des renseignements qu'il contient par une personne autre que le ou les destinataires désignés est interdite. Si vous recevez ce courriel par erreur, veuillez le supprimer immédiatement et envoyer sans délai à l'expéditeur un message électronique pour l'aviser que vous avez éliminé de votre ordinateur toute copie du courriel reçu. ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] convert NDMP tapes
On Tue, Apr 6, 2010 at 1:33 PM, Adams, Dwayne adam...@medsch.ucsf.eduwrote: Has anyone ever heard of a service that someone offers to convert NDMP tapes to another format? We are looking at getting rid of some old NDMP Filers (OnStor) that still have tapes with 7 year retention data on them. My options are to keep a legacy restore environment or restore the data and then backup using CIFS. I also need to encrypt the data in whatever process I use. My manger says he has heard of a service that will do the conversion for you. Has anyone heard of this? Please advise. One of the problems is that NDMP isn't really a standard for tapes - it's a protocol, not a tape format. You can't even restore an NDMP backup created by a NetApp to a Celerra, for example. There are a lot of tape/data conversions out there. This is the first one that my goodsearch returned: http://www.dataconversion.com/. I'd be surprised if companies like Ontrack coiuldn't do it as well. Use the search engines :-) Ed Wilts, RHCE, BCFP, BCSD, SCSP, SCSE ewi...@ewilts.org Linkedin http://www.linkedin.com/in/ewilts ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] convert NDMP tapes
Thanks Ed. Has anyone ever used one of these services for this type of task? Dwayne Adams From: Ed Wilts [mailto:ewi...@ewilts.org] Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 2010 11:48 AM To: Adams, Dwayne Cc: VERITAS-BU@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] convert NDMP tapes On Tue, Apr 6, 2010 at 1:33 PM, Adams, Dwayne adam...@medsch.ucsf.edu wrote: Has anyone ever heard of a service that someone offers to convert NDMP tapes to another format? We are looking at getting rid of some old NDMP Filers (OnStor) that still have tapes with 7 year retention data on them. My options are to keep a legacy restore environment or restore the data and then backup using CIFS. I also need to encrypt the data in whatever process I use. My manger says he has heard of a service that will do the conversion for you. Has anyone heard of this? Please advise. One of the problems is that NDMP isn't really a standard for tapes - it's a protocol, not a tape format. You can't even restore an NDMP backup created by a NetApp to a Celerra, for example. There are a lot of tape/data conversions out there. This is the first one that my goodsearch returned: http://www.dataconversion.com/. I'd be surprised if companies like Ontrack coiuldn't do it as well. Use the search engines :-) Ed Wilts, RHCE, BCFP, BCSD, SCSP, SCSE ewi...@ewilts.org Linkedin http://www.linkedin.com/in/ewilts ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] convert NDMP tapes
Try Doug Waterman at dataSPAN (formerly Media Recovery) at P 713-554-9301 C 713-516-8567 Email dwater...@dataspan.com Ask him if they can do it, if not he might be able to reference a company that can. You can tell him I gave you his info. Good Luck, Judy Hinchcliffe From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu [mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of Adams, Dwayne Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 2010 1:34 PM To: VERITAS-BU@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] convert NDMP tapes Hello, Has anyone ever heard of a service that someone offers to convert NDMP tapes to another format? We are looking at getting rid of some old NDMP Filers (OnStor) that still have tapes with 7 year retention data on them. My options are to keep a legacy restore environment or restore the data and then backup using CIFS. I also need to encrypt the data in whatever process I use. My manger says he has heard of a service that will do the conversion for you. Has anyone heard of this? Please advise. Thanks Dwayne Adams ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] convert NDMP tapes
A company I used years ago to recover data from a damaged hard drive and put onto tape is still around. http://pivar.com/ Don't know if they do what you want or not but it's who I would check with if I had such a need. As I recall they even had their own clean room if they needed to disassemble disk drives for recovery. From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu [mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of judy_hinchcli...@administaff.com Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 2010 2:55 PM To: adam...@medsch.ucsf.edu; VERITAS-BU@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] convert NDMP tapes Try Doug Waterman at dataSPAN (formerly Media Recovery) at P 713-554-9301 C 713-516-8567 Email dwater...@dataspan.com Ask him if they can do it, if not he might be able to reference a company that can. You can tell him I gave you his info. Good Luck, Judy Hinchcliffe From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu [mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of Adams, Dwayne Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 2010 1:34 PM To: VERITAS-BU@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] convert NDMP tapes Hello, Has anyone ever heard of a service that someone offers to convert NDMP tapes to another format? We are looking at getting rid of some old NDMP Filers (OnStor) that still have tapes with 7 year retention data on them. My options are to keep a legacy restore environment or restore the data and then backup using CIFS. I also need to encrypt the data in whatever process I use. My manger says he has heard of a service that will do the conversion for you. Has anyone heard of this? Please advise. Thanks Dwayne Adams Proud partner. Susan G. Komen for the Cure. Please consider our environment before printing this e-mail or attachments. -- CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail may contain privileged or confidential information and is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution, or use of the contents of this information is prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this electronic transmission in error, please reply immediately to the sender that you have received the message in error, and delete it. Thank you. -- ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
[Veritas-bu] per-directory policies a la NetWorker?
NetWorker has a feature where you can put a .nsr file in a directory, and then during backup it's contents will be parse so that you can treat particular files or directories in a special way. An example from the man page: Having a /usr/src/.nsr file containing: +skip: errs *.o +compressasm: . would cause all files (or directories) in /usr/src named errs or *.o (and anything contained within them) to be skipped. In addition, all other files contained in /usr/src will be compressed during save and will be set up for automatic decompression on recover. http://techpubs.sgi.com/library/tpl/cgi-bin/getdoc.cgi?db=manfname=4%20nsr http://techpubs.sgi.com/library/tpl/cgi-bin/getdoc.cgi?db=manfname=uasm Is there a similar feature in NetBackup 6.5 and above? I know there's a $HOME/bp.conf, but is there something that can be dropped in an arbitrary directory? Thanks for any info. ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
