[Veritas-bu] NetBackup 6.5 index size
Gurus, Recently I noticed that indexes are consuming a lot of disk space. Does anyone know the rule, how to plan space for indexes? Looks like something has changed since older versions of NetBackup. regards, Darek ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] NetBackup 6.5 index size
I mean /opt/openv/netbackup/db/images. rgr, Darek WEAVER, Simon (external) wrote: Darek I am certainly no guru, and I have not used 6.5 yet, but what do you mean by Index ? Catalog information? Simon -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dariusz Klar Sent: Friday, March 28, 2008 8:52 AM To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: [Veritas-bu] NetBackup 6.5 index size Gurus, Recently I noticed that indexes are consuming a lot of disk space. Does anyone know the rule, how to plan space for indexes? Looks like something has changed since older versions of NetBackup. regards, Darek ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu This email (including any attachments) may contain confidential and/or privileged information or information otherwise protected from disclosure. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately, do not copy this message or any attachments and do not use it for any purpose or disclose its content to any person, but delete this message and any attachments from your system. Astrium disclaims any and all liability if this email transmission was virus corrupted, altered or falsified. - Astrium Limited, Registered in England and Wales No. 2449259 REGISTERED OFFICE:- Gunnels Wood Road, Stevenage, Hertfordshire, SG1 2AS, England ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] NetBackup 6.5 index size
Thanks Simon for your incredible fast response :-) The purpose of my question is that I have to plan disk space used by indexes (catalog) for NetBackup environment. Estimated size of data under NetBackup protection is 110 TB (tera bytes). All I know is that file size in this environment is typical or medium in size, whatever it means. My first estimation was 1% of 110TB, but after I noticed that catalog consumes much more space than expected I increased my estimation to 3%. regards, Darek WEAVER, Simon (external) wrote: Ok so you do mean the catalog :) Im not too sure much has changed, but using the catalog tool, you can redirect the catalog images to an alternative location. Something like this document may help... http://seer.entsupport.symantec.com/docs/269996.htm Look for the section moving the netbackup image catalog. I do this all the time, to free up the default space of its original location :-) HTH Simon -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dariusz Klar Sent: Friday, March 28, 2008 9:23 AM To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] NetBackup 6.5 index size I mean /opt/openv/netbackup/db/images. rgr, Darek WEAVER, Simon (external) wrote: Darek I am certainly no guru, and I have not used 6.5 yet, but what do you mean by Index ? Catalog information? Simon -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dariusz Klar Sent: Friday, March 28, 2008 8:52 AM To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: [Veritas-bu] NetBackup 6.5 index size Gurus, Recently I noticed that indexes are consuming a lot of disk space. Does anyone know the rule, how to plan space for indexes? Looks like something has changed since older versions of NetBackup. regards, Darek ___ ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] NetBackup 6.5 index size
Folks, Thanks a lot for your comments and advises. Ed, especially thank you for your detailed info! Very useful. regards, Darek Ed Wilts wrote: On Fri, Mar 28, 2008 at 8:03 AM, Dariusz Klar [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I know the general rules, but... Another challenge for me is to estimate disk space for NetBackup catalog where total amount of data under NetBackup protection is 3.6 PB (peta bytes) with ability to grow to 8.5 PB in the future. Yes, size matters. but if that 3.6PB consists of 10k tiff files (and I would feel your pain!), your catalog would be significantly larger than if it consists of 100GB Oracle tables. The difference between 1% and 2% of total amount of protected data for catalog does matter. The difference vary from 36 TB to 85 TB in case of 1% difference. I need to be more precise. If I will say to my customer that they have to buy 255 TB (3% of total amount of data in the future) for NetBackup catalog, I have to be 100% sure what I'm talking about. I called Symantec and with that big data volume they are not 100% sure about space size for NetBackup catalog. Data volume does not matter - the number of unique filenames does. I could design the application to put 100 files in 100 directories and end up with a much larger catalog than if I put those 10,000 files in a single directory. If the data is all transitory and your retentions are long, the catalog will be much larger than if the data was fairly stagnant or retentions short. My Exchange environment is about 3TB or so and my catalog for that is about 2.2MB - that's under 0.01%. I have about the same amount of disk space in an environment that has host-based mirror sets, longer retentions, more transitory data, and small files. The catalog for that is 25GB - 1,000 times larger for the same amount of disk space. Even that is only 0.8% of allocated disk space. I have a 27TB application that requires 147GB of catalog space - about 0.5% - and it too has lots of little files. My total catalog size is under 600GB and we have about a 340GB of allocated disk space (that's SAN based and doesn't count the servers with local disk space or volumes that have host-based mirrors). That's about 0.2% of allocated space, nowhere near the 1-3% that you've been looking at. Again, how you use and back up your data will have a very significant impact on your catalog size. If your customer can tell you exactly how they're going to use the disk space and what their backup policies and retentions are going to be, then you can be more accurate in calculating a catalog size. If they can't, you're not going to have enough information to make a useful prediction. ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
[Veritas-bu] 5.1 MP2 (or higher) installation media
Hi gurus, For some reason I HAVE TO install NetBackup 5.1 at a customer site on Solaris 10 sparc platform. Minimum revision supported on Solaris 10 is 5.1 MP2. I have 5.1 GA installation media but it is not working (segmentation fault during installation). I need urgently 5.1 MP2 (or higher) installation media. There is no possibility to order it from Symantec/Veritas. Do not ask me why. :-( I'm looking for good people to zip/tar 5.1 MP2 revision (or higher) installation media and prepare link to download over the Internet. Can someone help? regards, Darek ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] 5.1 MP2 (or higher) installation media
What about segmentation fault during installation? Will it work really stable? regards, Darek Copied files to /kernel/drv and to /kernel/drv/sparcv9. Doing add_drv of the sg driver devfsadm: driver failed to attach: sg Warning: Driver (sg) successfully added to system but failed to attach WARNING: /usr/sbin/add_drv failed. There may be no SCSI devices on this machine Set global device database host failed. Starting the NetBackup database manager process (bpdbm). The NetBackup daemon process (bpdbm) was not started. Check the services configuration -- files, YP, NIS, or NIS+. Enter RETURN to continue, x to exit. Creating policy and schedule examples that you can view or use when you are configuring your own policies and schedules. ... creating policy template_normal ... creating schedules for policy template_normal ... creating policy template_weekend ... creating schedules for policy template_weekend Done creating example policies and schedules. Creating Directive Set for LotusNotes Creating Directive Set for MS_Exchange_5.x Creating Directive Set for MS_Exchange_Mailbox Creating Directive Set for MS_Exchange_2000 Creating Directive Set for MS_Exchange_SRS Creating Directive Set for MS_Exchange_Public_Folders Creating Directive Set for MS_Exchange_KMS Creating Directive Set for MS_SharePoint_Server Creating Directive Set for MS_SharePoint_Workspaces Creating Template Set for Oracle_RMAN Creating Template Set for Oracle_XML_Export Creating Template Set for DB2 Creating Directive Set for Windows2000 Creating Directive Set for Windows2003 Segmentation Fault Starting the Media Manager device daemon processes. Starting the NetBackup request daemon process (bprd). ** It appears NetBackup is being installed with the intention of using a different network interface than the default (waw-al700-lto). NetBackup daemons will be shut down. Additional entries must be added to /usr/openv/netbackup/bp.conf and /usr/openv/volmgr/vm.conf. The entry and the file affected are as follows: REQUIRED_INTERFACE=waw-masterge0 (bp.conf) REQUIRED_INTERFACE=waw-masterge0 (vm.conf) DEVICE_HOST=waw-masterge0(vm.conf) After these entries have been added, the NetBackup and Media Manager daemons need to be started. ** smpt wrote: Install 5.1 GA and then apply the patch. Don't run any tape drive configuration before install the patch -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dariusz Klar Sent: Friday, August 31, 2007 11:40 AM To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: [Veritas-bu] 5.1 MP2 (or higher) installation media Hi gurus, For some reason I HAVE TO install NetBackup 5.1 at a customer site on Solaris 10 sparc platform. Minimum revision supported on Solaris 10 is 5.1 MP2. I have 5.1 GA installation media but it is not working (segmentation fault during installation). I need urgently 5.1 MP2 (or higher) installation media. There is no possibility to order it from Symantec/Veritas. Do not ask me why. :-( I'm looking for good people to zip/tar 5.1 MP2 revision (or higher) installation media and prepare link to download over the Internet. Can someone help? regards, Darek ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] 5.1 MP2 (or higher) installation media
Justin Piszcz wrote: I have used 5.1MP2/3/4 on Solaris 10 without issue. If you are getting segfaults you may have other problems. This is fresh Solaris 10 U3 install with latest patches and no other problematic software/libraries installed. Pure installation. regards, Darek ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] 5.1 MP2 (or higher) installation media
Justin Piszcz wrote: You can find 5.1MP2/3/4/5/6 on their FTP site. I tried. Unfortunatelly since Symantec accuired Veritas navigating on their site is a nightmare :-( Can you point me to the link? regards, Darek ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] 5.1 MP2 (or higher) installation media
Justin Piszcz wrote: cut cut... You don't have the secret link? :) ftp://ftp.support.veritas.com/pub/support/products/NetBackup_Enterprise_Server/ NB_51_6_M_286343.solaris.tar NB_DB2_51_6_M_286355.solaris7.tar NB_DMP_51_6_M_286359.solaris.tar NB_GDM_51_6_M_286365.solaris.tar NB_INX_51_6_M_286372.solaris7.tar NB_LOT_51_6_M_286379.solaris7.tar NB_ORA_51_6_M_286390.solaris7.tar NB_SAP_51_6_M_286398.solaris7.tar NB_SYB_51_6_M_286408.solaris7.tar NB_VLT_51_6_M_286413.solaris.tar There ya go-- and yeah I agree. Justin. WOW :-o This is exactly what I wanted to know :-D Justin, THANK YOU! regards, Darek ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] 5.1 MP2 (or higher) installation media
Justin Piszcz wrote: cut cut... Is your installation medium corrupted? How did you obtain it? I heve to check it, but I downloaded it from internal SUN site with CD/DVD iso images. Should be ok, but... regards, Darek ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] 5.1 MP2 (or higher) installation media
Gurus, Thanks for all your replies. I have a link and new ideas so I will try to install it next week. Thank you :-) regards, Darek ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] NetBackup catalog migration
Thanks for all your responses :-) It looks like I have to get it all together. Probably I will have to install NBU 5.X server only for NetBackup catalog conversion purposes. regards, Darek Klar WEAVER, Simon napisał(a): You need to go from 5.x and then to 6.0 There is no way to upgrade from 4.5 directly - unless Symantec have changed the rules. ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
[Veritas-bu] NetBackup catalog migration
Hi Gurus, One of my customer plan to migrate from NetBackup DataCenter 4.5(MP4) directly to version 6.0(latest fix). I know that there is no migration process for doing it. Documentation states that it is not possible. But... I will install 6.0 and next all data (devices, storage units, pools, policies, schedules, etc.) will be recreated (using scripts prepared earlier) in NetBackup 6.0 manually by myself. Thers is one exception. The NetBackup catalog. I'm not so sure if it is possible to import NetBackup catalog from version 4.5 to 6.0. So my question is: Will it work? Does anyone tried to do this? regards, Darek ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
[Veritas-bu] License question
Hi gurus, I've tried to search the old posts using http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/cgi-bin/htsearch? but didn't found any interesting information. The question is: Is it possible to use licenses for NetBackup 6.0 clients for NetBackup 4.5? Will it work? regards, Darek ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
