Re: [Veritas-bu] SUDO
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 This is what I use: # Cmnd alias specification Cmnd_Alias NETBACKUP = /usr/openv/netbackup/bin/, /usr/openv/netbackup/bin/admincmd/, /usr/openv/volmgr/bin/, /usr/openv/bin/, /usr/openv/netbackup/bin/goodies/ %sysad ALL=(ALL) ALL %sysad ALL=(ALL) NOPASSWD: NETBACKUP Obviously I have a unix group called sysad set up at the unix level. Thanks peter Peter DrakeUnderkoffler Xinupro, LLC 617-834-2352 Reynolds, Susan K. wrote: Does anyone here use SUDO for non-root access to Netbackup; and, if so can you send a copy of what your SUDOERs file looks like? Interested in allowing backup admins the ability to do their jobs as needed while trying to strike a balance with security concerns of UNIX group. Thanks for your help. ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with CentOS - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFJwUt7l+lekZRM55oRAhPqAJ9ityClIdDiQYFD94JBDI+Wbk3hxgCgi2Sc vxHfPeRBKYqKtVi3PjRWERs= =+vca -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Question Regarding Linux 2.6 kernel udev rules for tape devices
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 The option in the vm.conf ENABLE_AUTO_PATH_CORRECTION will take care of what you need between reboots as it has reconfigured without issue for me with a 2.6 AMD64 kernel for more that 2 years. So if all underlying drivers and SANs have been configured correctly, then a /dev/nst# set of character devices have been created. Once you configure them in the gui or tpconfig, NBU will perform a scsi query and attach the outputed serial number to that tape devices. With the above configuration option, it will adjust the tape name to the new /dev/nst# on reboot if there was a change. If you want to go down the route of udev, the default configuration will point to /dev/tape%e but the NBU tape drive configuration tools I don't think will recognize anything but the no rewind devices (/dev/nst?) format although I've never tried. It looks like you may be on a RH4 based on your kernel version. FYI, the udev and multipathd implementation in RH5 was cleaned up quite a bit from and admin's management perspective. Thanks Peter Peter DrakeUnderkoffler Xinupro, LLC 617-834-2352 Jonathan Dyck wrote: For some reason I don't think this post made it through... Here's attempt number 2: -Original Message- *From:* Jonathan Dyck *Sent:* January 08, 2009 3:38 PM *To:* veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu *Subject:* Question Regarding Linux 2.6 kernel udev rules for tape devices Hello all, I'm building a new NBU 6.5 environment on RedHat... [root@dev]# uname -a Linux 2 2.6.9-55.ELsmp #1 SMP Fri Apr 20 16:36:54 EDT 2007 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux and am trying to wrap my head around the FC-SCSI tape device configuration. I have seen/heard mention that udev rules should be create to ensure that persistent naming occurs in the event that the server gets rebooted, SAN changes are made, new devices are added, etc The way I understand things, the following is the method to get things working on the server side: 1) Kernel detects tape scsi devices and creates /dev/nst## device files (and /dev/st## device files) ie: /dev/nst1 2) Links are created via the default udevrules , create tape device symlinks. ie: tape81 - nst23a 3) Run /dev/MAKEDEV sg to create the sg links that Netbackup needs to populate the device database Question here: does the MAKEDEV command look for /dev/nst devices? Or is it based on the tape# symlinks described above? If the answer is that is uses the symlinks, then I think I understand how the udev rules would be used (scsi_id -g -u -s nst device used to get the scsi inquiry string, create a rules so that the result of that inquiry always creates the same tape#). If not, could someone enlighten me? Cheers, Jon La version française suit le texte anglais. This email may contain privileged and/or confidential information, and the Bank of Canada does not waive any related rights. Any distribution, use, or copying of this email or the information it contains by other than the intended recipient is unauthorized. If you received this email in error please delete it immediately from your system and notify the sender promptly by email that you have done so. Le présent courriel peut contenir de l'information privilégiée ou confidentielle. La Banque du Canada ne renonce pas aux droits qui s'y rapportent. Toute diffusion, utilisation ou copie de ce courriel ou des renseignements qu'il contient par une personne autre que le ou les destinataires désignés est interdite. Si vous recevez ce courriel par erreur, veuillez le supprimer immédiatement et envoyer sans délai à l'expéditeur un message électronique pour l'aviser que vous avez éliminé de votre ordinateur toute copie du courriel reçu. ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with CentOS - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFJa3dMl+lekZRM55oRAmf9AJ4y9ANwW8UPesj/3oFC+KaxivPYrgCgrPXK 640XHT01JbKqAKgOBkX1fsA= =GK2t -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Linux tape discovery / cleanup
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Lots of data on Google for this. You can remove/add scsi devices at different levels. You can always remove (unload) the module for the SCSI/FC driver and reload it as long as you take care of all the dependencies. You can be far more precise with /proc/scsi/scsi for removing a device with: echo scsi remove-single-device #1 #2 #3 #4 /proc/scsi/scsi where: #1 = controller number #2 = channel number #3 = SCSI id #4 = LUN number and to add if you know all the particulars: echo scsi add-single-device #1 #2 #3 #4 /proc/scsi/scsi If you are running a 2.6 kernel version of redhat (RHv4 or v5), you can also use the /sys/class/scsi_host/host#/ routines. There may be needed tasks performed in /etc/modprobe.conf or /etc/modules.conf as well as making a new boot image (initrd with the command mkinitrd). These changes do require a reboot. Thanks Peter Peter DrakeUnderkoffler Xinupro, LLC 617-834-2352 Paul Keating wrote: Hey Folks. First foray into enterprise linux using RHEL. when adding or removing tape devices, can you add new, or cleanup disconencted devices in any sane way? I've been rebooting to see new devices, or if presenting new and disconnecting old, it looks like the old dev files are hanging around in addition to the new ones being created. ?? La version française suit le texte anglais. This email may contain privileged and/or confidential information, and the Bank of Canada does not waive any related rights. Any distribution, use, or copying of this email or the information it contains by other than the intended recipient is unauthorized. If you received this email in error please delete it immediately from your system and notify the sender promptly by email that you have done so. Le présent courriel peut contenir de l'information privilégiée ou confidentielle. La Banque du Canada ne renonce pas aux droits qui s'y rapportent. Toute diffusion, utilisation ou copie de ce courriel ou des renseignements qu'il contient par une personne autre que le ou les destinataires désignés est interdite. Si vous recevez ce courriel par erreur, veuillez le supprimer immédiatement et envoyer sans délai à l'expéditeur un message électronique pour l'aviser que vous avez éliminé de votre ordinateur toute copie du courriel reçu. ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with CentOS - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFH0BHIl+lekZRM55oRArlCAJ4wPiU99hi+h4pyAG2yyQz+LJYSVwCg3QEj KEyUGHUVDP1GtXBVU40QadI= =C5TV -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Linux tape discovery / cleanup
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Yes, several differences. Adding and removing simple SCSI devices has turned out to be easy enough in Linux. The complexities of multipathing software and volume management tools makes removing devices more difficult, but Linux isn't the only one that suffers from that. Take note that one thing I do miss in Linux is that the iostat command does not have the ability to show tape devices and their utilization which I find very useful in the world of NBU. If the tape device is fibre channel, then you can get some of that depending on the HBA model and the driver version and if its through a switch, you can get it from there as well. Still not the same. Thanks Peter Peter DrakeUnderkoffler Xinupro, LLCv 617-834-2352 Paul Keating wrote: Ah yesthis is about what I found using Google as well, once sorted through the 15000 linux incantations. Coming from a Solaris background, I'm thinking: rm -f /dev/rmt/* devfsadm Looks like I've got more work to do. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with CentOS - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFH0CN3l+lekZRM55oRAh4eAJwI69Cs99IOSY52CL/fyd8JKYebWACgjHSG /prRMNN5hq0xN5uSbfv+GGY= =Dcbe -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
[Veritas-bu] netbackup and future linux commands
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Not sure if Symantec/Veritas has this on their radar, but the RedHat 5 based distributions as well as others are updating long out dated command options that some of the NetBackup scripts are going to bork on. Two immediate commands which you would find in the available_media script are tail sort The tail command has had it's ambiguous +NUMBER option removed and it needs to be replaced with -n +NUMBER The sort has had a similar replacement for the ambiguous field specification where the out dated +NUMBER needs to be specified as -s NUMBER Other commands that might need adjustment are cleanstats check_coverage update_dbclients I did a quick scan but there may be other scripts and there may be other commands within scripts that would need checking. Just and FYI. Thanks Peter - -- Peter DrakeUnderkoffler Xinupro, LLC 617-834-2352 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with CentOS - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFHwrsWl+lekZRM55oRAhXpAKC7QQUeYmT+DdHnAJp8GL++xl+y+QCeN8A/ +LuS3pSgMJU2yrjNPj2Ns4s= =lsvz -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Tuning Solaris 10 for NetBackup Media Server
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 If your running the tapes on Solaris, the iostat utility will show the throughput on st devices as well as disks and ttys. If thats what your looking for, start with iostat -xE to list all the device names as needed by the iostat utility. Might show something like this: st15 Soft Errors: 0 Hard Errors: 0 Transport Errors: 0 Vendor: HP Product: Ultrium 2-SCSI Revision: S33H Serial No: You can then run that against iostat as in iostat st15 2 Thanks Peter Peter DrakeUnderkoffler Xinupro, LLC 617-834-2352 Ed Wilts wrote: Our numbers vary greatly according to the clients. We have very old Solaris machines that backup at 50+ MB/sec. We have very new Windows machines where throughput varies greatly between different volumes on the same machine (e.g. a volume with 5 million tiny files backs up at 30 MB/sec via FlashBackup, while another volume on the same machine gets about 7 MB/sec backing up small files via FlashBackup). It's difficult to get good numbers because we use multi-streaming and multiplexing like crazy. So the actual throughput to the drive is the sum of the jobs using the drive at that moment. Individual jobs vary between 5 MB/sec and about 65 MB/sec. But the total throughput to the tape heads is unknown. Anyone know an easy way to calculate that? If your drives are fibre-attached, use something like MRTG to grab the fibre port stats and graph that. That gives us a pretty good idea as to what the tape speeds are. -- Ed Wilts, Mounds View, MN, USA mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] I GoodSearch for Bundles Of Love: http://www.goodsearch.com/?charityid=821118 ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFGcIISl+lekZRM55oRAgwPAKCwOXeHU66dOtdEevWstDSZ/Rv7owCfeAhb LnvzECvM4VkhddgjyBdj5n4= =k2DP -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Kernel Parameters for Linux...
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 What linux distro and what kernel? On the disk storage, what is the architecture of that and the file system? Any parameters when you made the file system? 32bit or 64 bit? Thanks Peter Peter DrakeUnderkoffler Xinupro, LLC 617-834-2352 ZIMMER, RANDY K [AG/1000] wrote: All, I am testing a Linux media server for the first time and was wondering if there were any kernel tuning parameters I should have. I am testing a Dell 2950 w/ 2 Dual Core 2.8GHz CPU?s, w/ 16GB of memory, 5TB of disk storage attached via the San, and 4 fibre tape drives. My initial test was running 55 clients at one time to tape and the system handled it fine. Later, when I got my disk storage set up I ran 12 backups to disk and the system load was at about 16+ and I had a lot of blocked processes. Any comments or suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Thanks,*//**//**//* */Randy Zimmer/* */Sr. Unix System Administrator/* */Monsanto Enterprise Infrastructure Team/* */Office: 314-694-3109/* */Mobile: 314-960-0500/* */[EMAIL PROTECTED]/* /This e-mail message may contain privileged and/or confidential information, and is intended to be received only by persons entitled to receive such information. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender immediately. Please delete it and all attachments from any servers, hard drives or any other media. Other use of this e-mail by you is strictly prohibited./ /All e-mails and attachments sent and received are subject to monitoring, reading and archival by Monsanto. The recipient of this e-mail is solely responsible for checking for the presence of Viruses or other Malware. Monsanto accepts no liability for any damage caused by any such code transmitted by or accompanying this e-mail or any attachment./ ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFGX208l+lekZRM55oRAg9aAKCdL6icGeOLQSfHjW9ld/ViZnY8EwCcDNd7 SG6OskC2UsjuV5R9uL4znKs= =L1cx -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Trouble getting tape drives recognized on Linux Server running SLES9
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 If the lpfc driver is available, it would be called lpfc. Getting a newer version from the Emulex web site is good idea as you can then also download the version matching lputil utility for firmware upgrades and HBA modification. If you tail your messages file or watch your console when you perform a insmod lpfc or modprobe lpfc you can watch it pick up the targets. If this is part of a fabric, make sure the correct zoning is in place. Thanks Peter Peter DrakeUnderkoffler Xinupro, LLC 617-834-2352 ZIMMER, RANDY K [AG/1000] wrote: That seems to be the problem I am having I don't know what driver needs to be loaded and can't get any support from Novell. Below is the output from my lspci command: :00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation Workstation Memory Controller Hub (rev 12) :00:02.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation Server PCI Express x4 Port 2 (rev 12) :00:03.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation Server PCI Express x4 Port 3 (rev 12) :00:04.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation Server PCI Express x8 Port 4-5 (rev 12) :00:05.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation Server PCI Express x4 Port 5 (rev 12) :00:06.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation Server PCI Express x8 Port 6-7 (rev 12) :00:07.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation Server PCI Express x4 Port 7 (rev 12) :00:10.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation Server Error Reporting Registers (rev 12) :00:10.1 Host bridge: Intel Corporation Server Error Reporting Registers (rev 12) :00:10.2 Host bridge: Intel Corporation Server Error Reporting Registers (rev 12) :00:11.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation: Unknown device 25f1 (rev 12) :00:13.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation: Unknown device 25f3 (rev 12) :00:15.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation Server FBD Registers (rev 12) :00:16.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation Server FBD Registers (rev 12) :00:1c.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation Enterprise Southbridge PCI Express Root Port 1 (rev 09) :00:1d.0 USB Controller: Intel Corporation Enterprise Southbridge UHCI USB #1 (rev 09) :00:1d.1 USB Controller: Intel Corporation Enterprise Southbridge UHCI USB #2 (rev 09) :00:1d.2 USB Controller: Intel Corporation Enterprise Southbridge UHCI USB #3 (rev 09) :00:1d.7 USB Controller: Intel Corporation Enterprise Southbridge EHCI USB (rev 09) :00:1e.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801 PCI Bridge (rev d9) :00:1f.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corporation Enterprise Southbridge LPC (rev 09) :00:1f.1 IDE interface: Intel Corporation Enterprise Southbridge PATA (rev 09) :01:00.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 80333 Segment-A PCI Express-to-PCI Express Bridge :01:00.2 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 80333 Segment-B PCI Express-to-PCI Express Bridge :02:0e.0 RAID bus controller: Dell PowerEdge Expandable RAID controller 5 :04:00.0 PCI bridge: Broadcom: Unknown device 0103 (rev c3) :05:00.0 Ethernet controller: Broadcom Corporation: Unknown device 164c (rev 12) :06:00.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation Enterprise Southbridge PCI Express Upstream Port (rev 01) :06:00.3 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation Enterprise Southbridge PCI Express to PCI-X Bridge (rev 01) :07:00.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation Enterprise Southbridge PCI Express Downstream Port E1 (rev 01) :07:01.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation Enterprise Southbridge PCI Express Downstream Port E2 (rev 01) :08:00.0 PCI bridge: Broadcom: Unknown device 0103 (rev c3) :09:00.0 Ethernet controller: Broadcom Corporation: Unknown device 164c (rev 12) :0c:00.0 Ethernet controller: Intel Corporation: Unknown device 105e (rev 06) :0c:00.1 Ethernet controller: Intel Corporation: Unknown device 105e (rev 06) :0e:00.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 6700PXH PCI Express-to-PCI Bridge A (rev 09) :0e:00.2 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 6700PXH PCI Express-to-PCI Bridge B (rev 09) :0f:03.0 Fibre Channel: Emulex Corporation LP1 Fibre Channel Host Adapter (rev 01) :0f:03.1 Fibre Channel: Emulex Corporation LP1 Fibre Channel Host Adapter (rev 01) :10:04.0 Fibre Channel: Emulex Corporation LP1 Fibre Channel Host Adapter (rev 01) :10:04.1 Fibre Channel: Emulex Corporation LP1 Fibre Channel Host Adapter (rev 01) :12:0d.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc: Unknown device 515e (rev 02) Thanks, Randy Zimmer Sr. Unix System Administrator Monsanto Enterprise Infrastructure Team Office: 314-694-3109 Mobile: 314-960-0500 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Justin Piszcz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2007 12:35 PM To: ZIMMER, RANDY K [AG/1000] Cc: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] Trouble getting tape drives recognized on Linux Server running SLES9 Then your SCSI/Fiber card does not see the tape drives. You'd need to run lspci or such to see what
Re: [Veritas-bu] Trouble getting tape drives recognized onLinux Server running SLES9
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 what does the output from lsmod show? Peter DrakeUnderkoffler Xinupro, LLC 617-834-2352 ZIMMER, RANDY K [AG/1000] wrote: There is no switch involved the fibre is attached directly from the server to the tape drive. Thanks, Randy Zimmer Sr. Unix System Administrator Monsanto Enterprise Infrastructure Team Office: 314-694-3109 Mobile: 314-960-0500 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Robin Small [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2007 12:55 PM To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu; ZIMMER, RANDY K [AG/1000] Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Trouble getting tape drives recognized onLinux Server running SLES9 With the emulex fc cards showing up in lspci and not having drives show up anywhere on the lsscsi, could it be FC switch zoning issues? You may want to doublecheck the zoning config on your FC switch to make sure your new media server can see the right drives. ~ Robin - This e-mail message may contain privileged and/or confidential information, and is intended to be received only by persons entitled to receive such information. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender immediately. Please delete it and all attachments from any servers, hard drives or any other media. Other use of this e-mail by you is strictly prohibited. All e-mails and attachments sent and received are subject to monitoring, reading and archival by Monsanto. The recipient of this e-mail is solely responsible for checking for the presence of Viruses or other Malware. Monsanto accepts no liability for any damage caused by any such code transmitted by or accompanying this e-mail or any attachment. - ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFGXHrkl+lekZRM55oRAjYMAKC4yfpo7HjVTk+UPKVK0cmexXc/RQCfYkUS v2l9PyC9M8R6f1IUzu1qNTg= =v0cq -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] SATA disk backup performance
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I run disk staging off of SATA drives but in a RAID 0 config to get both optimal performance and data footprint. The staging takes place at a frequency where that covers the fault tolerance. I get great performance off of LTO 1 and 2 as well as SAIT. Cleanups if a disk fails is a quick script to flush copy 1 of images that have been staged and it is an allowable loss for those backups which are destined to DSSUs in that config. For those clients that can fill the pipes, we go straight to tape. Thanks Peter Peter DrakeUnderkoffler Xinupro, LLC 617-834-2352 Martin, Jonathan (Contractor) wrote: Before the SATA Sux crowd gets going here I'll just say this: I run 14 x 5 SATAII 500GB Disks in a Raid 5 and get better than 200MB/sec writes and easily drive LTO3 to 130MB/sec. That said, I'm running completely different hardware, Dell server storage. Raid 5, qlogic HBAs PERC Raid Controllers. The best thing anyone on this list ever said to me when I was in your shoes was forget about Netbackup. How fast can you copy data from point a to point b on your solution? Then how fast can you multistream FTPs to the same solution? Once you get those numbers into the range you are expecting then you can start to performance tune NBU. Until then, your buffer settings are a waste of time. -Jonathan *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *Navarro, Eddy A. *Sent:* Friday, April 27, 2007 5:10 PM *To:* veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu *Subject:* [Veritas-bu] SATA disk backup performance Gurus, I?ve been doing some performance testing of backing up to a Disk Storage Unit of SATA disk. We have the following: Netbackup 5.1 MP6 SunFire V800 running Solaris 9 with 8GB RAM Veritas Volume Manager 4.1 CX700 array with 500GB 7200rpm SATA drives Emulex LP9000 HBA I?ve been doing all sorts of tweaking, from adjusting the disk buffer files per http://seer.entsupport.symantec.com/docs/273532.htm, cranking up the write cache on the CX700 to over 2GB, changing the RAID layouts, but I just cannot get performance better than 15MB/s. Surely backing up to SATA can produce better results than that? Currently, I?ve got six 500GB LUNs each in their own 4+1 RAID group using RAID3. These LUNs are then striped into a RAID0 volume using Veritas Volume manager (at first I tested with a striped MetaLun on the array, but results were no different). As stated, I?ve tweaked till I?m blue in the face but I can?t seem to squeeze anything above 15MB/s. Any hints as to what I could be overlooking? Performance is not looking good compared to our NDMP backups to LTO-2 tape which run at the nice clip of ~35MB/s. Thanks, Eddy ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFGMmzEl+lekZRM55oRAlJNAKDXX0y/RfkuMnl2SzsS7BCr3u8cygCgj2JU HrVgtSLMg533NZXjS+PWN9s= =JaMO -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] NB 5.1 and Overland DLT
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 what does tpconfig -d output? Peter DrakeUnderkoffler Xinupro, LLC 617-834-2352 Keith W wrote: NB 5.1 see's my devices as separate. The robot shows that no drives are available and the drive is showing up as a stand alone. Here are my system stats. Any advise is greatly appreciated. System I am running: OS: Red Hat Linux 7.1 NB: 5.1 Machine: Overland DLT LoaderExpress (LXL1B10) Linux see's both tape device and robot: --- scsi0 : QLogic ISP1020 SCSI on PCI bus 02 device 50 irq 9 MEM base 0xd0829000 Vendor: OVERLAND Model: LXB Rev: 0517 Type: Medium Changer ANSI SCSI revision: 02 Vendor: QUANTUM Model: DLT7000 Rev: 391B Type: Sequential-Access ANSI SCSI revision: 02 NB 5.1 can see both devices: [EMAIL PROTECTED] bin]# ./scan -tape *** SDT_TAPE Device Name : /dev/st/nh0c0t3l0 Passthru Name: /dev/sg/h0c0t3l0 Volume Header: Port: -1; Bus: -1; Target: -1; LUN: -1 Inquiry: QUANTUM DLT7000 391B Vendor ID : QUANTUM Product ID : DLT7000 Product Rev: 391B Serial Number: 142092 WWN : WWN Id Type : 0 Device Identifier: Device Type: SDT_TAPE NetBackup Drive Type: 9 Removable : Yes Device Supports: SCSI-2 Flags : 0x4 Reason: 0x0 [EMAIL PROTECTED] bin]# ./scan -changer *** SDT_CHANGER Device Name : /dev/sg/h0c0t2l0 Passthru Name: /dev/sg/h0c0t2l0 Volume Header: Port: -1; Bus: -1; Target: -1; LUN: -1 Inquiry: OVERLANDLXB 0517 Vendor ID : OVERLAND Product ID : LXB Product Rev: 0517 Serial Number: 2B31934687 WWN : WWN Id Type : 0 Device Identifier: Device Type: SDT_CHANGER NetBackup Robot Type: 8 Removable : Yes Device Supports: SCSI-2 Number of Drives : 1 Number of Slots : 10 Number of Media Access Ports: 0 Flags : 0x0 Reason: 0x0 +---+ + Keith + +---+ ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFGLlRml+lekZRM55oRAijWAKCJWVqgPh9btBnSvxUl5NhhfWPlPACglOet Dhb3H5kPoVAHXd85YrDQrqg= =XOOi -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] DSSU Script
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 You could do it a couple of ways. You certainly could take the image name from the file name on the file system and check that there is an second copy on tape somewhere, bpimagelist -backupid IMAGENAME will give you that. You could go with checking the file system for the filename.ds* file but that might not be atomic enough, I haven't tested it, but I would worry if the prune could overlap the duplication based on that logic. Let us know what you work out. Could be something good to share. Thanks Peter Peter DrakeUnderkoffler Xinupro, LLC 617-834-2352 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'd like to build a script that expires dssu images the image has been relocated to tape. What command should i use to check if the image has been written to tape? I'm thinking of generating the list images from a directory listing of the dssu. Karl ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFF1P0ul+lekZRM55oRAr7wAKCN7MpafmkSDgOZ4HDI4zht/nsXXwCgvEzb lQ2mafUBMGipRuYNkvaW14o= =XZ3T -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Backup networks
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Why can't the master and media servers be on both networks each. Set the client name in the policy to go over the front network for those systems that only have one NIC, and set the name to one that is on the backup network for those hosts that have the second nic? What about 802.1q? Thanks Peter Peter DrakeUnderkoffler Xinupro, LLC 617-834-2352 Whelan, Patrick wrote: Does anyone have a similar setup? Separate backup network from clients in one location to media servers in same location, but the master server can only see the clients and media servers on the public network. This causes 41 errors, we have come up with different work arounds but all of them are hooey. Is there a clean solution to this dilemma? I know the real solution is to have one backup network for everything, but this is politically impossible at the moment. Any suggestions welcomed. Regards, Patrick Whelan NetBackup Specialist Architect Engineering +44 20 7863 5243 Of all the things I've lost, I miss my mind the most! - Unknown There are only 10 kinds of people on earth - those who understand binary and those who don't. ... Als sie mich holten, gab es keinen mehr, der protestieren konnte -- Martin Niemöller * The message is intended for the named addressee only and may not be disclosed to or used by anyone else, nor may it be copied in any way. The contents of this message and its attachments are confidential and may also be subject to legal privilege. If you are not the named addressee and/or have received this message in error, please advise us by e-mailing [EMAIL PROTECTED] and delete the message and any attachments without retaining any copies. Internet communications are not secure and COLT does not accept responsibility for this message, its contents nor responsibility for any viruses. No contracts can be created or varied on behalf of COLT Telecommunications, its subsidiaries or affiliates (COLT) and any other party by email Communications unless expressly agreed in writing with such other party. Please note that incoming emails will be automatically scanned to eliminate potential viruses and unsolicited promotional emails. For more information refer to www.colt.net or contact us on +44(0)20 7390 3900. ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFFcCp7l+lekZRM55oRAsZEAKCmR9cn8MGGkEEInWPwjqwbbJDjfwCgrbXw tRMVkfm6tKWI+GnNpA4bD4c= =d3cS -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] DSSU failed images
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 sorry, must have reached my multitasking limit without fresh coffee... Peter DrakeUnderkoffler Xinupro, LLC 617-834-2352 Joe Royer wrote: Thanks for trying to help, but did you read my message at all? NetBackup 5.1 MP5 was the first line of the message. I also said I tried to manually bpduplicate the image _specifying_the_name_of_the_image_. When bpduplicate couldn't find it by name, I decided to search the restore catalog and sure enough it wasn't there. I hate to delete 90% of the incremental for that day, but I guess NBU had failed me anyway at that point. Things are moving again after deleting the fragments, but I'm definitely calling this a bug. I have 1.7TB of DSSU in my production environment (MP4) and haven't seen this problem (where it's far more likely to happen). Thanks On Wed, 29 Nov 2006, Peter DrakeUnderkoffler wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Not sure which version and MP you are running so that info might help someone help you. If the file is left on the dssu file system, the backup image is held within the name of the file It will be the first part of the file name up to _C1. The form of the file is this: CLIENT_STARTTIMESINCEEPOCC_F#.STARTTIMESINCEEPOC.img where CLIENT is the client name as configured within your policies where STARTTIMESINCEEPOC is a number of seconds since the epoc where C# is copy number where F# is fragment number. For instance, if the file name is: vader_1164805206_C1_F1.1164805206.img the backup image name is: vader_1164805206 You should be able to search the catalogs for that image name as such: bpimagelist -backupid vader_1164805206 If there is nothing there, you can remove the file. Don't ever remove a file from the DSSU if the image still lives in the catalogs. At least this might help you clean up your storage temporarily. As to the source of the problem, I'd love to know if that is a bug. Thanks Peter Peter DrakeUnderkoffler Xinupro, LLC 617-834-2352 Joe Royer wrote: NetBackup 5.1 MP5 I have noticed twice now, that if a large job is writing to a DSSU and it fails or is killed, it doesn't get destaged, ever. This can fill up the DSSU. I am also not able to locate the image, even by name with the bpduplicate command so I can't manually destage it. Help? I don't particularly want to delete it from the DSSU. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFFbbcAl+lekZRM55oRAu72AJoDzVNevrdTg5PoPd1jdo6Q1Hp+uACg341x zwSY0+EOEbVzlnKvJJZjXX8= =Viti -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Linux Exclude File List Format
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 if you want to exclude for instance a directory: /foo/thing/that then place in a file: /foo/thing/that/ notice the trailing slash. The file is placed in /usr/openv/netbackup called exclude_list but there are three options: exclude_list exclude_list.POLICY exclude_list.POLICY.SCHEDULELABEL The docs have a whole section for this. Thanks Peter Peter DrakeUnderkoffler Xinupro, LLC 617-834-2352 Koster, Philip wrote: Q: What is the format for the Unix/Linux exclude file? I know the path, I know the names. I just don't know how the file has to be formatted for NBU to read it correctly (NBU 6 MP3 BTW). Thanks. Phil Koster Network Administrator City of Grand Rapids, MI Direct: 456-3136 Helpdesk: 456-3999 ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFFZKdil+lekZRM55oRAmoWAJ91GCTqvfGGZXWJ9AGH0bsu8c9XBQCfVV4n +LKpvSPW3U3qfEU45xOipBo= =SHSS -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Oracle Backups
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 The oracle client does nothing like that, all the management of archive and redo logs is always handled within Oracle. The agent simply understands both RMAN and Oracle API and executes a RMAN script. Keep in mind that at times some house cleaning is needed between the RMAN catalogs and the NetBackup catalogs in reference to expired images to RMAN backup id names. Thanks Peter Peter DrakeUnderkoffler Xinupro, LLC 617-834-2352 Dave Brown wrote: Ok, need some help from Oracle/Linux people here. I am running an oracle backup using NB client 5.1 and Oracle client. Our dba has created RMAN scripts to do hot backups of the databases. I am wondering if the oracle client works like other database clients (exchange, sql) in such that it will clear transaction logs after a good backup. This message (including any attachments) is intended for the sole use of the individual to whom it is addressed and may contain confidential information. You are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, or duplication of this message by someone other than the intended addressee or their designated agent is strictly prohibited. Information included in this message that does not relate to the specified business of Worknet shall be understood as neither given by nor endorsed by Worknet or its employees. Any cost estimates or estimated quotes included in this message are considered non-binding estimates only and must not be considered final costs unless contained within an official proposal document. ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFFW1djl+lekZRM55oRAqvnAKCJ4wsuefwxNPdhgND5PLG23iIj3gCgjCzV EqAYw/YTNQ3sSCsmdbw97rM= =zaI+ -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Jobid's
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I thought it was offline netbackup, and remove /usr/openv/netbackup/db/jobs/jobid.lock then change the contents of /usr/openv/netbackup/db/jobs/jobid to 1 or 0 or something. Thanks Peter Peter DrakeUnderkoffler Xinupro, LLC 617-834-2352 Clooney, David wrote: Hi All Quick Q , does anyone know how you can reset jobid's, and if there are any configurable parameters ? Regards Dave *Notice to recipient: The information in this internet e-mail and any attachments is confidential and may be privileged. It is intended solely for the addressee. If you are not the intended addressee please notify the sender immediately by telephone. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it, is prohibited and may be unlawful.* When addressed to external clients any opinions or advice contained in this internet e-mail are subject to the terms and conditions expressed in any applicable governing terms of business or client engagement letter issued by the pertinent Bank of America group entity. If this email originates from the U.K. please note that Bank of America, N.A., London Branch and Banc of America Securities Limited are authorised and regulated by the Financial Services Authority. ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFFQhVSl+lekZRM55oRAroeAJ4vhpBCRsNXjdzn2gOuDJg+fbiAiwCgm4ag +D+BodA00mzJjEkEA60U7PQ= =ofL9 -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Linux Media Server, Adic Library, and Drivers
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 what do you see when you... cat /proc/scsi/scsi If it isn't there, then your O/S isn't seeing the drives, check your zones again. Also, are you using the included qlogic driver to the kernel (which distro and kernel are you using?) or have you installed the qlogic Linux drivers? There shouldn't be a driver for the LTO3 drives, it should be seen as a SCSI st device and the NBU install should set up the SG driver correctly. There are also great docs included with NBU for this. I would also help when asking questions to supply all the data needed: - -O/S version and architecture? - -NBU version and MP level? - -which qlogic cards? Thanks Peter Peter DrakeUnderkoffler Xinupro, LLC 617-834-2352 Brooks, Jason wrote: We're testing a Linux media server now to try and resolve some NDMP issues. I have the Media server set up, talking to my Master, fiber connectivity to a tape drive (properly zoned), but I can't find drivers. I've contacted ADIC support, but they've been no help. I've found IBM drivers (library contains IBM LTO3s), but they don't work for fibre attached, just SCSI. The fibre attached drivers link to Emulex, but we have QLogic cards. Now, I'm about at the end of my rope. Any suggestions? Contact Veritas support? My last hope is to wait on my ADIC Sales Rep's Engineer. Thanks, Jason ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFFP5M1l+lekZRM55oRAgnWAJ427l9vIRPhqHCtWVJaVUfgwY7gNACeOmhd 2LeaZXnqQeRnzo7Q8UO+uvo= =onCD -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Linux Media Server, Adic Library, and Drivers
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Is the module for the qlogic hba loaded lsmod | grep ql If so, then cat /proc/scsi/qla2xxx/# where # is whatever controller number it was assigned. If there is no module loaded, then open up another window with a tail -f /var/log/messages and while watching that, perform a modprobe -v qla2300, lets see what comes out of it. If they are seen at this point, make sure you have the needed entry in /etc/modules.conf and them create a new boot image. Thanks Peter Peter DrakeUnderkoffler Xinupro, LLC 617-834-2352 Brooks, Jason wrote: /proc/scsi/scsi only sees the local SCSI bus. We're running RHEL3, kernel 2.4.21-40.EL with Qlogic 2300 driver installed. Zones look right, but not sure why drive isn't seen. The tape drive is a straight FC connect - no backplane in the ADIC (Scalar i2K). The server is a Dell with a Xeon, NBU 6.0 MP3, Qlogic 23xx. Jason -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Peter DrakeUnderkoffler Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2006 12:39 PM To: Brooks, Jason Cc: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Linux Media Server, Adic Library, and Drivers what do you see when you... cat /proc/scsi/scsi If it isn't there, then your O/S isn't seeing the drives, check your zones again. Also, are you using the included qlogic driver to the kernel (which distro and kernel are you using?) or have you installed the qlogic Linux drivers? There shouldn't be a driver for the LTO3 drives, it should be seen as a SCSI st device and the NBU install should set up the SG driver correctly. There are also great docs included with NBU for this. I would also help when asking questions to supply all the data needed: -O/S version and architecture? -NBU version and MP level? -which qlogic cards? Thanks Peter Peter DrakeUnderkoffler Xinupro, LLC 617-834-2352 Brooks, Jason wrote: We're testing a Linux media server now to try and resolve some NDMP issues. I have the Media server set up, talking to my Master, fiber connectivity to a tape drive (properly zoned), but I can't find drivers. I've contacted ADIC support, but they've been no help. I've found IBM drivers (library contains IBM LTO3s), but they don't work for fibre attached, just SCSI. The fibre attached drivers link to Emulex, but we have QLogic cards. Now, I'm about at the end of my rope. Any suggestions? Contact Veritas support? My last hope is to wait on my ADIC Sales Rep's Engineer. Thanks, Jason -- -- ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFFP6EPl+lekZRM55oRAgyqAJ9N0wOcbHNxEYCe6+1HyyTru9v8DgCdHfLq 9w5TMQJR0utw77UtOdTecpc= =qPDp -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] [Looking For a Command] to show activity monitor ...
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Alex, try bpdbjobs You can also run bpdbjobs -stay_alive and then when you want, type in refresh and only those changes will show up. If you want to change the output of what that looks like, the settings in bp.conf or the registry (I believe) in windows that look like BPDBJOBS_COLDEFS = These are documented. You can always get the famous complete output with, bpdbjobs -all_columns Thanks Peter Peter DrakeUnderkoffler Xinupro, LLC 617-834-2352 Wilkinson, Alex wrote: is there a CLI interface to the activity monitor ? -aW ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFFM2GEl+lekZRM55oRAuy4AJ9Sh6dOgFayZ6ZzQPKRj9Y2rMb9OACbBreX tIX16sHyBxIZqg4STI87o6E= =bgsk -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Bad tapes how do you track?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 You certainly can't change volume pools, but volume group is open for season. Thanks Peter Peter DrakeUnderkoffler Xinupro, LLC 617-834-2352 WEAVER, Simon wrote: Peter The only thing I was not sure about, was moving live media with a retention period into another Volume Pool; thought you got a message about cannot deassign media from Volume Pool or something like this :-) Regards Simon Weaver 3rd Line Technical Support Windows Domain Administrator EADS Astrium Limited, B23AA IM (DCS) Anchorage Road, Portsmouth, PO3 5PU Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Peter DrakeUnderkoffler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 05 October 2006 15:13 To: Hindle, Greg Cc: NB List Mail Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Bad tapes how do you track? Why not use a different volume group for those media? Then you can always perform a search (at least within volume manager) for media in the bad_media_on_shelf volume group, or something like that. Thanks Peter Peter DrakeUnderkoffler Xinupro, LLC 617-834-2352 Hindle, Greg wrote: Nb 5.0 mp4 Solaris 9 Ok We from time to time get read / write errors on tapes. When this happens we clean the drive and write protect the tape and put it on our bad tape rack never to be used again except if a restore is needed (we try to restore form it anyway). I want to somehow keep track of this tape in netbackup and identify it as a bad tape. Does anyone have a way of doing this? I though of editing the vault slot field and put like all or something like that but this only works till someone takes the tape and puts it in our L700 and forgets to take it out. Enterprise vault will re assign it a new slot and then we would loose track of the tape. I just cannot think of a way to track these tapes better other than a manual system. Any thoughts? Greg This e-mail and any attachments are confidential, may contain legal, professional or other privileged information, and are intended solely for the addressee. If you are not the intended recipient, do not use the information in this e-mail in any way, delete this e-mail and notify the sender. CEG-IP2 -- -- ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu This email is for the intended addressee only. If you have received it in error then you must not use, retain, disseminate or otherwise deal with it. Please notify the sender by return email. The views of the author may not necessarily constitute the views of Astrium Limited. Nothing in this email shall bind Astrium Limited in any contract or obligation. Astrium Limited, Registered in England and Wales No. 2449259 Registered Office: Gunnels Wood Road, Stevenage, Hertfordshire, SG1 2AS, England -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFFJRSKl+lekZRM55oRAlf8AKCFX/g8zQc/GcNiPyCToe6sasO1dgCgt+Ki shSTTCz2k1IhOY6oiBYHoEM= =kbwX -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Using -Listpolicy with bplist.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I believe you must also place a -client XX in there. I tested this on a 6.0 MP3 Linux 64bit: # bpflist -backupid zit_1160031651 -d 10/01/06 -rl 10 no entity was found then with the -client # bpflist -backupid zit_1160031651 -d 10/01/06 -rl 10 -client zit FILES 7 0 0 1160031651 4 zit Zit zit_1160031651 - *NULL* 36 0 unknown unknown 0 0 *NULL* 1 0 5 51 1 1 0 0 57856 /etc/ 16877 root wheel 0 1159945261 1158767871 1158767871 2 0 18 52 2 1 0 0 57856 /etc/.last_boot_rc 33188 root wheel 30 1159983433 1159983433 1159983433 3 0 10 54 4 1 0 0 57856 /etc/hosts 33188 root wheel 9654 1160031652 1159897056 1159945207 4 0 9 52 24 1 0 0 57856 /etc/motd 33188 root wheel 59 1159998009 1159997841 1159997841 etc... Peter DrakeUnderkoffler Xinupro, LLC 617-834-2352 Darren Dunham wrote: Don't know about 6.0MP3, but in 5.1 in order to get bpflist to work correctly we had to add -rl 999 to get it to work. Else it always fails with no entity was found And yes, it works for NDMP too. Darn. Doesn't seem to do anything for me. I tried 999 and the actual level (9) for this image. Both stay blank. # bpimagelist -backupid netapp-srv_1159657209 IMAGE netapp-srv 0 0 7 netapp-srv_1159657209 Netapp 19 *NULL* NetBackup Full-Backup 0 9 1159657209 1852 2147483647 0 0 8714404 13585 1 2 0 Netapp27_1159657209_FULL.f *NULL* *NULL* 0 1 0 0 0 *NULL* 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 *NULL* 0 0 0 *NULL* 10340 0 0 829319 0 0 [...] # bpflist -d 04/01/06 -backupid netapp-srv_1159657209 no entity was found # bpflist -d 04/01/06 -backupid netapp-srv_1159657209 -rl 999 no entity was found # bpflist -d 04/01/06 -backupid netapp-srv_1159657209 -rl 9 no entity was found -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFFJUy2l+lekZRM55oRAgtlAKDDgj/xvgqF8UabZ5RsxIOyBse7ugCgve0G N34a6jt5k+2uWqPwEcYzSP0= =sRfl -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] LTO3 and Disk Staging
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Some quite valid points. The splitting of a DSU's to alternate media servers sounds like requirements from Veritas engineering would be needed as the images on disk would be owned by a different media server. I suppose scriptable be I can foresee several potential hiccups in the event of errors. Have you identified all the performance stats for each item in the mix? So, for instance: max read/write of one tape drive max read/write of two or more tape drives at the same time max read/write of one LUN from CX max read/write of two or more LUNs from CX at the same time utilization rate of FC ports in switches throughout fabric Not to ask a silly question, but are you sharing data paths at all? There have been some posts in the past week or two on max transfer rates round on LTO3, have you researched the archives of this list? How big a system is the media server? Does it have the bandwidth to perform what you want it to? These all may be futile questions as you may have reached the limits of your storage system. The obvious but potentially more expensive solution is to spread your load across more media servers. It is a fully supported configuration... Thanks Peter Peter DrakeUnderkoffler Xinupro, LLC 617-834-2352 Weber, Philip wrote: Sorry if this has been done to death recently but... What sorts of disk systems are people using as disk staging to keep LTO3s happy? Our current EMC Clariion Cx300 struggles to supply data fast enough to 3 LTO2 drives (even outside of NetBackup) and performance goes through the floor if (as is often the case) it is still trying to write backups to disk while streaming data off to tape. We have pretty much a 24*7 backup window with lots of slow small, slow big, and some fast, clients. It seems the idea that you need disk staging to keep your LTO tapes running nicely, rings a bit hollow. Also seems to me we're looking at needing a high-end disk system. Which makes a mockery of backing up to cheap ATA/SATA disk being the way forward. The only way I can see to get around the performance problems with writing/reading backup streams to/from disk concurrently, other than a high-end system, is to script some kind of mirror-split-off process and use it to do the duplication with scripts rather than DSSU. i.e. back up to disk overnight then split a mirror off (to somewhere where its I/O will be separate) and duplicate off this during the day before resynching. Anybody do anything like that? I can see all sorts of nasty gotchas ... maybe that way madness lies? cheers, Phil Phil Weber Business Technology (Egg) Storage Technical Services - Senior UNIX Technologist Phone: 01384 26 4136 Mobile: 07748 333503 Jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Egg is a trading name of the Egg group of companies which includes: Egg plc (reg no 2448340), Egg Financial Intermediation Ltd (reg no 3828289), and Egg Banking plc (reg no 2999842). Egg Banking plc and Egg Financial Intermediation Ltd are authorised and regulated by the Financial Services Authority (FSA) and are entered in the FSA register under numbers 205621 and 309551 respectively. These members of the Egg group are registered in England and Wales. Registered office: 1 Waterhouse Square, 138- 142 Holborn, London EC1N 2NA. This e-mail is confidential and for use by the addressee only. If you are not the intended recipient of this e-mail and have received it in error, please return the message to the sender by replying to it and then delete it from your mailbox. Internet e- mails are not necessarily secure. The Egg group of companies do not accept responsibility for changes made to this message after it was sent. Whilst all reasonable care has been taken to avoid the transmission of viruses, it is the responsibility of the recipient to ensure that the onward transmission, opening or use of this message and any attachments will not adversely affect its systems or data. No responsibility is accepted by the Egg group of companies in this regard and the recipient should carry out such virus and other checks as it considers appropriate. This communication does not create or modify any contract. ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFFE7FLl+lekZRM55oRAgdpAJ0cdyS6ncDyvk+NreG40i7eXDCwpACeO1wQ puv/Vkd9B2jvob2Zqd/2FDs= =0CZ5 -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Policy Auditing: How to
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 If you're alright doing command line loops or writing short shell scripts, here you go: for i in `bppllist` ; do printf $i: bpplclients $i -l | awk '{printf $2:}' printf \n done That will give you an output of policy1:clientA:clientB: policy2:clientC:clientd: etc... Just replace the : with a , or whatever separator you want This is for bash or sh, modify the loop syntax for csh/tcsh If you are running windows, install cygwin Thanks Peter Peter DrakeUnderkoffler Xinupro, LLC 617-834-2352 Koster, Phil wrote: We ended up just using a bppllist and hand creating a file. We were hoping for something more parsable without re-writing the NBU reporting module but in the end we couldn't figure out any better way to do it. Thanks. Phil Koster Network Administrator City of Grand Rapids Direct: 616-456-3136 Helpdesk: 456-3999 *From:* WEAVER, Simon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Sent:* Thursday, September 21, 2006 4:15 AM *To:* Koster, Phil; veritas-bu *Subject:* RE: [Veritas-bu] Policy Auditing: How to */Do you mena BPPLList command perhaps?/* */It gives an output and you can use the to write to a file if it helps :-)/* /Regards/ /Simon Weaver *3rd Line Technical Support Windows Domain Administrator*/ /EADS Astrium Limited, B23AA IM (DCS)/ /Anchorage Road, Portsmouth, PO3 5PU/ /Email: //[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- *From:* Koster, Phil [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Sent:* 18 September 2006 14:14 *To:* veritas-bu *Subject:* [Veritas-bu] Policy Auditing: How to NBU 6 MP2 on Win2K Srvr Me and the other backup admin inherited the NBU system from someone else. We want to audit the policies. I think I already know the answer but is there any easy way to get a list of which servers are in which back up policies without having to do this one policy or one client at a time? It'd be nice to get it dumped to like a csv or something we can process to look for duplicates etc. I have a feeling I am going to have to do some combination of bplist, and bpplclients and probably more. Basically we just want to do a full audit of the nBU policies including schedules and which servers are in the policies etc. Seems to me there should be a relatively easy way to do this but maybe I am wrong. Anyone at least already have a script or something that can do this? Thanks. Phil Koster Network Administrator City of Grand Rapids Direct: 616-456-3136 Helpdesk: 456-3999 This email is for the intended addressee only. If you have received it in error then you must not use, retain, disseminate or otherwise deal with it. Please notify the sender by return email. The views of the author may not necessarily constitute the views of Astrium Limited. Nothing in this email shall bind Astrium Limited in any contract or obligation. Astrium Limited, Registered in England and Wales No. 2449259 Registered Office: Gunnels Wood Road, Stevenage, Hertfordshire, SG1 2AS, England ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFFEpOPl+lekZRM55oRAiDmAKCtvfxWW4XfO+QnaDS79/zyOv7E6ACgy2WW 0ZkWbXcMlIYX5IaNgaOg+ZE= =KzK5 -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] How many servers per NBU Policy? - Poll
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Not really a useful stat. Everyone's NBU implementation is generally different based on lots of factors. Clients may or may not be bundled into policies for business or security reasons, platform commonalities, and of course schedule windows. As a first stab, I usually bundle systems with similar services into the same policy. But that almost always gets split up a bit. Database backups generally tend to be one client per policy, but there are exceptions. As usual, everyones millage may vary. Peter DrakeUnderkoffler Xinupro, LLC 617-834-2352 Koster, Phil wrote: We ran some numbers and have about 1.26 servers per policy. I was just wondering where everyone else is in that regard. Thanks. Phil Koster Network Administrator City of Grand Rapids Direct: 616-456-3136 Helpdesk: 456-3999 ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFFEqZll+lekZRM55oRAte9AJ9SjYqzSLBfHbRgtvL8MVOHUfFWkwCg19Kl Y7fheJBLojavf0jZV4/Sdzw= =ELaK -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] LTO3 throughput on Vault/Duplication jobs
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 You then need to test each component individually if you don't know where your bottleneck lives. There are many ways to test tape drive throughput from a media server. Simple dd or tar commands and all the way up to bpbkar. When you quote your read speeds of 130mb/sec, is that during a restore process through netbackup? If so and there is multiplexing, make sure your restore test is big enough to get a valid sample size. Thanks Peter Peter DrakeUnderkoffler Xinupro, LLC 617-834-2352 Liddle, Stuart wrote: I think we are licensed per TB on the VTL?.not per drive. Our rationale in doing the multiplexing to the VTL was to increase throughput to the VTL for backups. We CAN increase the number of virtual drives instead and then do single streams to the VTL and avoid the de-multiplexing during the duplication step. However, we are seeing lightning-fast read speeds off of the VTL regardless of the fact that it is multiplexed (around 130MB/sec). So, I?m still concerned about the speed with which we write out to the physical tapes?..not sure where the bottleneck is?but there definitely is a bottleneck. *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *Paul Keating *Sent:* Tuesday, September 19, 2006 8:49 AM *To:* veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu *Subject:* Re: [Veritas-bu] LTO3 throughput on Vault/Duplication jobs My thought's exactly JR. I'm thinking folks either have VTLs where they are licensing from the vendor on a per virtual drive basis, OR, they are licensing Netbackup on a (old) per drive, rather than (new) per TB of usable disk basis, so want to avoid the licensing cost of adding more virtual drives..that was on of my primary criteria in selecting a VTLI want to be able to create as many virtual drives as I want. I currently have 20 physical drives, and run various multiplex levels for different STUs, depending on the type of backup, in order to maintain sufficient data flow to stream the drives, but when the VTL comes into play, I want MPX=1, so I'll be configuring upwards of 20 virtual drives per media server. Paul -- -Original Message- *From:* Dyck, Jonathan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Sent:* September 19, 2006 10:09 AM *To:* Paul Keating; Liddle, Stuart; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu *Subject:* RE: [Veritas-bu] LTO3 throughput on Vault/Duplication jobs Agreed. Coming from an environment where we are afraid of multiplexing everything due to those image's importability (or lack thereof), the fact that we cannot demux quick enough has us handcuffed a little. Just a question, what's the rationale on mpx'ing to your VTL's? Cheers, Jon ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFFECQ1l+lekZRM55oRAni8AJ91fyyqTD2CrIZLLWRMfeVPu0NVNACdFaHD dgliOvTDWXsWlH8eXzhVg3M= =RJAg -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Bppllist columns
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 This is from NBU6, so there are some more fields, but I think this is right. # 1 Tag # 2 Policy Type # 3 Follow NFS/Backup Network Drives (0 no/1 yes) # 4 Cross Mount Points # 5 Client Compress # 6 Priority # 7 Encrypt # 8 Collect DR Info (0 no/1 yes) # 9 Limit Jobs Per Policy (int value) #10 Max frag size #11 Active|Inactive #12 Effective Time #13 Collect TIR (0 no/1 yes/2 yes with move detection) #14 Extended Security #15 rfile (individual restore from raw) #16 Block Incremental #17 Allow Multiple Data Streams #18 Frozen image #19 Backup copy #20 Number of copies #21 Fail on error #22 Collect BMR info #23 Checkpoint #24 Checkpoint interval (minutes) #25 Offhost backup #26 Use alternate client #27 Use data mover (off host bkups) #28 Data mover type #29 Collect BMR info #30 Keyword #31 Policy ID Thanks Peter Peter DrakeUnderkoffler Xinupro, LLC 617-834-2352 David Rock wrote: * Clooney, David [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2006-09-19 11:53]: Hi All Does anyone have the columns for bppllist $policy Basically trying to put something together based on policy type, trying to get the columns specifically for the INFO section below. Eg. CLASS croyvtsms_oracle *NULL* 0 50 169200 *NULL* NAMES INFO 0 0 0 0 *NULL* 0 0 2147483647 1 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1041511308 3E0E2989A5AF4185B6575FE1DA53C67A 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 2 This is what I have gleaned from working with it. I believe it covers most of what you probably need to know. I'm still working on the rest :-) # Policy INFO line # 1 2 3 4 5 67 8 910 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 #INFO 6 0 0 0 *NULL* 0 0 2147483647 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1088520139 85BD1B0A1DD211B2AE2C0800208094C0 1 # # 1 Tag # 2 Policy Type # 3 Follow NFS/Backup Network Drives (0 no/1 yes) # 4 Compression (0 no/1 yes) # 5 Job Priority (int value) # 6 # 7 # 8 Collect DR Info (0 no/1 yes) # 9 Limit Jobs Per Policy (int value) #10 Cross Mount Points (0 no/ 1 yes) #11 #12 Active (0 yes / 1 no) #13 Collect TIR (0 no/1 yes/2 yes with move detection) #14 #15 #16 #17 Allow Multiple Data Streams #18 #19 #20 Active Date #21 #22 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFFEEo4l+lekZRM55oRAraqAJ4uHgW5G9SFPP2c0YoJhcVCT4gtiACbBpcy dA3lr+4ajeWPP+eY25z4aF8= =HVoa -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] NetBackup catalog migration
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I thought the migration plan for this was 4.5 - 5.0 mp3 or 5.1 - 6.0? I never went through that large of a jump, but I would want to test it before stepping into production. The real key will be if nbpushdata will work, certainly a bprecover will place the data back on disk, but that is the easy part of the battle. Any test systems you can play with? Thanks Peter Peter DrakeUnderkoffler Xinupro, LLC 617-834-2352 Dariusz Klar wrote: Hi Gurus, One of my customer plan to migrate from NetBackup DataCenter 4.5(MP4) directly to version 6.0(latest fix). I know that there is no migration process for doing it. Documentation states that it is not possible. But... I will install 6.0 and next all data (devices, storage units, pools, policies, schedules, etc.) will be recreated (using scripts prepared earlier) in NetBackup 6.0 manually by myself. Thers is one exception. The NetBackup catalog. I'm not so sure if it is possible to import NetBackup catalog from version 4.5 to 6.0. So my question is: Will it work? Does anyone tried to do this? regards, Darek ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFFACCWl+lekZRM55oRAl/wAJ9NuprOg2J1sOfhzK5CxITax4vv5gCfWE1G eRLR2gq4GOMANlhWFQbdzN0= =/aK2 -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Disk Storage - Advice / clarification
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Simon, If you want to expire an image on disk, it is the same procedure as on tape. Images written to disk are copy #1, so find the image name and specify copy #1. You can query the db to find the actual path and copy number. For testing I can see this being useful, just remember for production you will want phase 2 to complete successfully before expiring images. I never found a way to convert a dsu to a dssu, so I've always destroyed it and started again. Once that is done, you can either set up the schedule or kick it off manually bpbackup -dssu DSSU_NAME Length and durations and phase 2 frequencies are definitely not a one size fits all situation. Really generally comes down to business requirements plus capital expenses and then work backward from there... Maybe you have some restore SLAs that can help make some decisions. Thanks Peter Peter DrakeUnderkoffler Xinupro, LLC 617-834-2352 WEAVER, Simon wrote: */Hi everyone/* */Now looking at DSU considerations for my setup:/* *//* */1 x NBU 5.1 MP2 Win2k3 Server/* */2 x SAN Media NBU 5.1 MP2 Servers/* */3 x Shared Storage for TB of Data/* *//* */I have configured a Disk Storage Unit on my Master Server, and as a test, this volume is 100GB in size./* *//* */I have done a TEST BACKUP of the Master Server, using this new Storage Unit. This has completed successfully./* *//* */A couple of questions:/* *//* */1) On the new volume are image files of the server that was backed up. If I wanted to expire the disk based backup, how is this done?/* */2) I do not see an option to do STAGE2 of Disk Storage (which I guess you can put to tape). I think its because I created a bog-standard DSU. Is there an option to do this, or should I just delete and start again?/* */3) If I have to delete, what about the data that was backed up?/* */4) Who else does DSU and any advice on how long data is kept, or whether you use Stage 2 methods and write to tape?/* *//* */Thanks all/* /Regards/ /Simon/ This email is for the intended addressee only. If you have received it in error then you must not use, retain, disseminate or otherwise deal with it. Please notify the sender by return email. The views of the author may not necessarily constitute the views of Astrium Limited. Nothing in this email shall bind Astrium Limited in any contract or obligation. Astrium Limited, Registered in England and Wales No. 2449259 Registered Office: Gunnels Wood Road, Stevenage, Hertfordshire, SG1 2AS, England ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFE+FHwl+lekZRM55oRAjALAKCF0wJ5F+/2H4AP5OKO7G0yXhFcNQCghL7+ IrUB46bAuqpnc0TC1Lxp9vI= =+B5w -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Disk Storage - Advice / clarification
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Simon, At one customer site, I setup dssu's to perform cumul incr within policies. I needed to make sure as they were adding clients on a regular basis, that I could house at lease 1.5 full backups per client within the dssu for the include list specified. That As time flows along, the cumul incr balance out and reduce in size as the fulls were configured to go straight to tape since I had the time on the weekend to endure the slow client performance and resource hogging. As far as what you are doing, sounds great as long as you have the disk space for it. Keep in mind that volume pools are a per dssu match, so if you have multiple clients going to the same dssu that you ultimately want on different volume pools, straight phase 2 isn't going to help you. You can always do some bpduplcate fun to get around that if you have the time to customize. Hope this helps. Thanks Peter Peter DrakeUnderkoffler Xinupro, LLC 617-834-2352 WEAVER, Simon wrote: Cheers Peter, this was some of my thoughts as well. In general, when using DSSU could you give me an idea of how much data is stored on there and when you write to tape? For example I am thinking of doing a 2TB Disk Backup, and then writing to tape 3 days later when its quiet. Am I on the right track for make the best use of DSSU? I will delete the current DSU, but I am having trouble deleting the images :( Regards Simon Weaver 3rd Line Technical Support Windows Domain Administrator EADS Astrium Limited, B23AA IM (DCS) Anchorage Road, Portsmouth, PO3 5PU Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Peter DrakeUnderkoffler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 01 September 2006 16:30 To: WEAVER, Simon Cc: 'veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu' Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Disk Storage - Advice / clarification Simon, If you want to expire an image on disk, it is the same procedure as on tape. Images written to disk are copy #1, so find the image name and specify copy #1. You can query the db to find the actual path and copy number. For testing I can see this being useful, just remember for production you will want phase 2 to complete successfully before expiring images. I never found a way to convert a dsu to a dssu, so I've always destroyed it and started again. Once that is done, you can either set up the schedule or kick it off manually bpbackup -dssu DSSU_NAME Length and durations and phase 2 frequencies are definitely not a one size fits all situation. Really generally comes down to business requirements plus capital expenses and then work backward from there... Maybe you have some restore SLAs that can help make some decisions. Thanks Peter Peter DrakeUnderkoffler Xinupro, LLC 617-834-2352 WEAVER, Simon wrote: */Hi everyone/* */Now looking at DSU considerations for my setup:/* *//* */1 x NBU 5.1 MP2 Win2k3 Server/* */2 x SAN Media NBU 5.1 MP2 Servers/* */3 x Shared Storage for TB of Data/* *//* */I have configured a Disk Storage Unit on my Master Server, and as a test, this volume is 100GB in size./* *//* */I have done a TEST BACKUP of the Master Server, using this new Storage Unit. This has completed successfully./* *//* */A couple of questions:/* *//* */1) On the new volume are image files of the server that was backed up. If I wanted to expire the disk based backup, how is this done?/* */2) I do not see an option to do STAGE2 of Disk Storage (which I guess you can put to tape). I think its because I created a bog-standard DSU. Is there an option to do this, or should I just delete and start again?/* */3) If I have to delete, what about the data that was backed up?/* */4) Who else does DSU and any advice on how long data is kept, or whether you use Stage 2 methods and write to tape?/* *//* */Thanks all/* /Regards/ /Simon/ This email is for the intended addressee only. If you have received it in error then you must not use, retain, disseminate or otherwise deal with it. Please notify the sender by return email. The views of the author may not necessarily constitute the views of Astrium Limited. Nothing in this email shall bind Astrium Limited in any contract or obligation. Astrium Limited, Registered in England and Wales No. 2449259 Registered Office: Gunnels Wood Road, Stevenage, Hertfordshire, SG1 2AS, England -- -- ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu This email is for the intended addressee only. If you have received it in error then you must not use, retain, disseminate or otherwise deal with it. Please notify the sender by return email. The views of the author may not necessarily constitute the views of Astrium Limited. Nothing in this email shall bind Astrium Limited in any contract
Re: [Veritas-bu] STK L700 Management interface
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 For those out there interested ( I don't think I already posted this in the past), if your L700, L180, or L80 are on some indirect network, but you can get there a hop or two away, here is the port forwarding within an SSH session to get the console to show up on your local browser: ssh -X -C -L 23132:stk-lib:80 -L 5001:stk-lib:5001 -L 5002:stk-lib:5002 -L 5003:stk-lib:5003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Then just point your java capable browser to: http://localhost:23132 Obviously that port number could be anything, but the other 5000 range numbers I had to figure out with a tcpdump session. Thanks Peter Peter DrakeUnderkoffler Xinupro, LLC 617-834-2352 Paul Keating wrote: It's a great benefit for our remote library which is across town. Lets us see if there's a tape in a drive that doesn't kive with what NBU reports, unload a drive and move tapes when robtest can't communicate with the drive (not often) Gives a graphical view of what's in use, drive wise, and see if the library is responding to NBU commands, and most importantly, lets you see the error message that you would otherwise have to read off the library console. As far as the *local* library console itself, *blech*. Have to say I much prefered the console of the ATL libraries (P3000) I've worked with previously, though they didn't have a web console. We have an SL500 in our test labfree console, but the library...ugh. At least the L700 has a decent CAP, and isn't made of plastic pieces that fall apart when you look at them. Paul La version française suit le texte anglais. This email may contain privileged and/or confidential information, and the Bank of Canada does not waive any related rights. Any distribution, use, or copying of this email or the information it contains by other than the intended recipient is unauthorized. If you received this email in error please delete it immediately from your system and notify the sender promptly by email that you have done so. Le présent courriel peut contenir de l'information privilégiée ou confidentielle. La Banque du Canada ne renonce pas aux droits qui s'y rapportent. Toute diffusion, utilisation ou copie de ce courriel ou des renseignements qu'il contient par une personne autre que le ou les destinataires désignés est interdite Si vous recevez ce courriel par erreur, veuillez le supprimer immédiatement et envoyer sans délai à l'expéditeur un message électronique pour l'aviser que vous avez éliminé de votre ordinateur toute copie du courriel reçu. ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFE9a2tl+lekZRM55oRAspMAJ43PUMHQ/X/XETJWpemoTr79GgBiQCfZPC2 8TdwQmKvp8OtP9Qihjcq8gc= =vazB -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] DSSU Storage?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I will absolutely agree that DSSUs are no where close from being fully mature. About your failures, what is the SUG policy, failover, least used or priority? As far as going over the HWM, what does 90% work out to when taking into account the fragment size? I've run into a situation where instead of queuing the job or failing with no available storage units, I got 129's when the next unused DSSU in the SUG already had active jobs and the additional pushed it passed it's allowed limit. I've been wrestling with DSSU type functions in NBU since using Vault as the phase 2 solution, so the process has made some good advancements, but it still required a good level of over engineering when it comes to available resources still as when it gets close to those limits, it becomes unstable in my opinion. Thanks Peter Peter DrakeUnderkoffler Xinupro, LLC 617-834-2352 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey Peter, We recently went Netbackup 6 and once we got the media servers to 6 as well, I set up a storage unit group consisting of two DSUs with manual duplication scripts. I have the HWM at 90%. Some of my backups are failing with 129 errors when directed to the Stroage Unit group even though one of the DSUs still had capacity. I thought that if a DSU went over the HWM it would continue existing backups but no new backups would be sent to it. The SUG should then remove it from the list while it's over the HWM. Maybe I am expecting too much from Netbackup but if it's going to fail backups with 129 errors then Storage Unit Groups are only half there in functionality regards, Aaron (Embedded image moved to file: pic31998.jpg) Aaron Morrison Senior Technical Specalist Storage Management National Australia Bank 1/122 Lewis Rd Wantirna South 3152 Tel: (+61 3) 9886 2359 Mob: 0400104744 Fax: (+61 3) 98862700 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please contact Storage Management Australia for all requests. Peter DrakeUnderkoffler [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Sent by: Martin, Jonathan (Contractor) veritas-bu-bounce [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc urn.edu veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject Re: [Veritas-bu] DSSU Storage? 18/08/2006 09:29 PM I have a couple of customers using DSSU's in NBU6. First of all, I do use storage unit groups with multiple DSSUs as part of them. Almost all have re-used existing storage as a general trend, so the back end storage has
Re: [Veritas-bu] DSSU Storage?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I have a couple of customers using DSSU's in NBU6. First of all, I do use storage unit groups with multiple DSSUs as part of them. Almost all have re-used existing storage as a general trend, so the back end storage has been RAID 1 or RAID 5 more times than not. The size of each DSSU depends on what the client profiles, back end storage density and policy/schedule quantities and frequencies. Kind of need to put all that in your brain and make a best guess. I have found that setting the mfs on the DSSU hasn't aided any of the situations I've set up and in fact when using multiple DSSUs in a storage unit group, the smaller (512mb) mfs has better distribution on smaller sides DSSUs. Flushing is done only after phase 2 is complete and successful. So if your schedule is not frequent enough, it will not prune out images as there would still be only 1 copy of that backup image. Looking forward to next updates when the volume pool can be specified at a more granule level instead of all disk staging for that DSSU goes to one pool. I've taken the approach for some customers to have cumulative or incrementals go to DSSUs and fulls and archives go strait to tape. Also, setting the storage unit group usage profile is something to consider if you go that route (prioritized, least used and failover). As far as HWM and LWM, I've generally left the HWM default (98%) and set the LWM to sometimes 60%, but that depends on the available resources for phase 2 and the frequency as well. If you want to have the most possible images on disk for faster restores, then taking your LWM down to 40% will make that difficult. Thanks Peter Peter DrakeUnderkoffler Xinupro, LLC 617-834-2352 Martin, Jonathan (Contractor) wrote: I'm working on architecting a new backup solution here, which will undoubtedly require Disk Staging to accommodate faster drives (LTO3 or DLT-S4.) I'm sure this is a common way to get around the limited bandwidth associated with copper network connections. Anyhow, how big is everyone's DSSUs? 2x Media? More? How about your High Water Marks? I'm thinking something along the lines of 50% high water mark with DSSU's 2x Media (compressed.) Also, lets say your DSSU gets up to 40% when the backup window finishes, is there a setting to flush this after a certain amount of time? I'm installing 6.0 for the first time here shortly, so all the new features are presently a mystery to me. TIA, -Jonathan ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFE5aSUl+lekZRM55oRAnyDAKDc+1EkPCsbcDip//kG94/X3QSOZQCfVnGf SmguJAyWXfl0dym2t0NMOkc= =oRKG -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Backup Windows 2003 server in another domain
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 One trick I use to connectivity between any client and the master or media server is to perform the following from the server (either windows or unix works): bpgetconfig -s CLIENT or bpgetconfig.exe -s CLIENT where CLIENT is either a hostname (with the correct resolution) or IP address. If it can perform this, then the necessary NetBackup components are in place to perform a backup or restore to/from that client. The output from that command should look something like: root# bpgetconfig -s 10.210.2.183 Client of prod-backup-bu.mqube.net Linux, RedHat2.4 5.1.0 NetBackup 5.1 51 /usr/openv/netbackup/bin Linux 2.6.9-22.ELsmp Thanks Peter Peter DrakeUnderkoffler Xinupro, LLC 617-834-2352 WEAVER, Simon wrote: Ed NBU does not reall care about DNS - it will work on IP alone (as done here in many examples). Some cases we cannot use DNS for security reasons (especially machines in isolated areas). Regards Simon Weaver 3rd Line Technical Support Windows Domain Administrator EADS Astrium Limited, B32AA IM (DCS) Anchorage Road, Portsmouth, PO3 5PU Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Ed Wilts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 05 July 2006 18:36 To: Coen, Trevor Cc: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Backup Windows 2003 server in another domain On Wed, Jul 05, 2006 at 05:32:50PM +0100, Coen, Trevor wrote: What do I need to have in place to backup a Windows 2003 server that is not in the same Windows domain as the Netbackup 5.1 MP3 Master Server? NetBackup doesn't care about Windows domains - it cares about DNS. Put the proper name resolution in place and everything works nicely. .../Ed -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFErMkql+lekZRM55oRAuZ3AKDXjCKKXUMLZMkb4Wz3T/+l6GKsJQCcDZiY +hIoURoQEnkOLaZ0UGehgRg= =Z1eE -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Questions regarding Single drive backup
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 You should read the Media Manager manual available either with you software or on line and then post questions after that. Single drive and tape stacker configurations are well documented. Peter DrakeUnderkoffler Xinupro, LLC 617-834-2352 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi. I have installed a new NB 5.0 server with a single tape drive. I am able to see the drive through NB. Also, i am able to configure a sample backup and run successfully. However, i am able to take any more backups on the tape, actually the tape is not mounting on the drive. In the activity monitor it says, mounting tape and it hangs, not proceeding any further. I am not too sure how to proceed. Request your help in going forward, Thanks Krishnan Subramanian =-=-= Notice: The information contained in this e-mail message and/or attachments to it may contain confidential or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, any dissemination, use, review, distribution, printing or copying of the information contained in this e-mail message and/or attachments to it are strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us by reply e-mail or telephone and immediately and permanently delete the message and any attachments. Thank you ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFEq7ASl+lekZRM55oRAvUeAKDTM4l1r2YavtIs0H7iIqzxWslfmACg2Ulc Prxu90uOYUTnzXiaUqSh2mQ= =Djax -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] CLI or GUI
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 GUI has improved dramatically over the last few versions. CLI gives instant results where the java gui has been known (in the past) to give old data. Not to mention scripting/automation/customization with reporting, scheduling, provisioning, installations, DR, etc. I think the GUI can be good for someone new or for operations people that need that. I've seen a lot of locations write a customized menu driven interface for the tape handles for inserts/exports and job submission. Many larger more complex locations need to not use the NBU scheduler and go with an logic based company wide scheduler, CLI helps this move smoother as well. CLI also gives you a closer connection to understanding what is really happening behind the scenes which is invaluable when it comes to problem solving. Thanks Peter Peter DrakeUnderkoffler Xinupro, LLC 617-834-2352 Keith W wrote: Reading the mails coming through this thread, I get the impression that most folks use the CLI more than the java gui, is this true and why? Just a curious semi-newbie question. +---+ + Keith + +---+ ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFEpV7ol+lekZRM55oRAqFjAKCP18lPpCdlcuREVDuQt9riGjQ31wCgvH49 vVkQZFWmzIPNag4sFj7zsLU= =jySI -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] determining size of last full backup of each policy
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 You could always run bpimmedia and specify a schedule type and and date/time range. The rows that start with FRAG, the fourth field is kilobytes. Query, sum, report... Thanks Peter Peter DrakeUnderkoffler Xinupro, LLC 617-834-2352 Steven L. Sesar wrote: I'm going through a sizing exercise right now and need to determine how much data each full backup represents. Before re-inventing the wheel, does anyone have any quick and dirty ways of accomplishing this? Thanks, Steve ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFEo+P/l+lekZRM55oRAvjEAJ9Wo+/7TMxJlC/IjZf4Yh5nRf5pyQCgpgl0 uAZt/hBDenoxtrW1zm8YLVI= =VJJE -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] DSSU/bpduplicate Question
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 bpduplicate will be your friend on this, just make sure you set the global parameters as far as how many copies you can have of an image bpconfig -max_copies 3 ...or what ever. Not sure what you mean by merge the copy 3 tapes in. Thanks Peter Peter DrakeUnderkoffler Xinupro, LLC 617-834-2352 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Copy 1 is considered the data sitting on the DSSU Copy 2 is considered the data copied to tape I'd like to do some testing, so i'd like to create a 3rd copy. Doing a manual relocation isn't possible since the data is already to tape. Would i just run bpduplicate manually? My assumption is that the new tapes will be copy 3. Copy 3 tapes will end up in our DR server. The DR server is a 2 week old clone of the current master. When i merge the copy 3 tapes in, will the DR server know that the tapes are copy 3? Will it need copy 2 or maybe copy1? *Karl-Frédéric Rossing,* Technical Services phone: 204-786-6431 fax: 204-784-6755 toll free:1-800-665-1934 www.federated.ca _CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE _ The information in this email may be confidential and/or legally privileged. This email is intended to be reviewed by only the individual(s) or organization(s) named above. If you are not the intended recipient or an authorized representative of the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any review, dissemination or copying of this email and its attachments, if any, or the information contained herein is prohibited. If you have received this email in error, please immediately notify the sender by return email and delete this email and its attachments from your system. Thank you. ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFEjvDEl+lekZRM55oRApN9AKDXF96d9ikwsMXWIGf56aSN8O3AxACgivCf 42RfdaGD1OkGSrt3ZEHDLr4= =iNzM -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] jnbSA with x forwarding
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Shawn, Why not install the java interface on the Linux workstation and allow access at the NBU server? Peter DrakeUnderkoffler Xinupro, LLC 617-834-2352 David Rock wrote: * Shawn Guillemette [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2006-06-09 12:32]: I have a colleague that uses Fedora Core3 as a workstation and is attempting to run the Java Admin Console with X forwarding. I have tested the process on 2 other workstations using the X forwarding and it works great. These other workstation are running Fedora Core5 and the other is running solaris10 My colleague is using Java version 1.5.0_07 and the log out put is pasted below. If anyone would be able to pint me in a direction it would be greatly appreciated. Without solving the problem, you could brute force your way around it by using VNC instead. That could be tunneled over ssh for better security as well. That notwithstanding, the error sounds like a problem with the fontserver on the client. You may also want to think about NOT running jnbSA from the master server. It's a pig and many instances of it running at the same time can have very bad performance results on the master server. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFEic6wl+lekZRM55oRAuyrAKC2Rg86WpHPl0cVgvc3/vJm0Hv6AQCg0cIN yLBR4guQBBObUyxrIdPjIKw= =Eo/V -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Obtaining NetBackup client details
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On the master server, try: bpgetconfig -s CLIENT_NAME -l Thanks Peter Peter DrakeUnderkoffler Xinupro, LLC 617-834-2352 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I need to be able to find out what version of NetBackup and Operating System are running on all my clients, and keep a count of them. We are running a Solaris Master server, with a mix of Unix and Windows clients. I need to be able to obtain (in csv format) something like what the Host Properties/Client window on the Admin console gives you. Does anyone know what command / commands run to get this information? I know I can export the client window, but with over 1400 clients, this takes over a day, and gives me a lot of information that I would then need to parse, to get only the information I need. Is there a better way of obtaining this info Thanks in advance Ian Fehring Lead Technical Specialist, Storage Management National Australia Bank National Australia Bank Ltd - ABN 12 004 044 937 This email may contain confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient, please immediately notify us at [EMAIL PROTECTED] or by replying to the sender, and then destroy all copies of this email. Except where this email indicates otherwise, views expressed in this email are those of the sender and not of National Australia Bank Ltd. Advice in this email does not take account of your objectives, financial situation, or needs. It is important for you to consider these matters and, if the e-mail refers to a product(s), you should read the relevant Product Disclosure Statement(s)/other disclosure document(s) before making any decisions. If you do not want email marketing from us in future, forward this email with unsubscribe in the subject line to [EMAIL PROTECTED] in order to stop marketing emails from this sender. National Australia Bank Ltd does not represent that this email is free of errors, viruses or interference. ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFEg/Acl+lekZRM55oRAn8zAJ9qwVauzqgywrl7HHKmn2nZM2P4DgCgx+7V CVk9deQPXiIiiH3XN50LCN0= =twQi -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Ethernet port aggregation for performance
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I have a Linux master/media server with a single connection to a backup network via gigabit that I will be migrating to a bonding in a day or two. I have seen the single link with 3 or 4 streams to separate clients push an average of 80 megabytes/sec and peak much higher. Ping me next week and I'll let you know what I saw with bonding. This is against Extreme switchs, not Cisco, but the same should hold true. Thanks Peter Peter DrakeUnderkoffler Xinupro, LLC 617-834-2352 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does anybody use Ethernet port aggregation (ie Cisco Etherchannel) to connect their LAN media servers to a backup network? If yes, what level of performance are you seeing? and based on what hardware? Am keen to know if anyone has found this to be performant above 1Gbit/sec speeds thanks Andy. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFELT3Xl+lekZRM55oRAucHAKC00WeUi6e5uO9fFcjPLfJCHSSDUgCgqu5B eaMUDk3A03VnDFY3zmUGHY4= =j2y4 -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Ethernet port aggregation for performance
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 It will just be two connections. Tough to answer the hoping for question as it depends on the performance of all the links in the chain. I'd like to be able to push more than 120mb/sec as there are 4 LTOgen2 drives in use at the very least. The bonding/etherchannel is in preparation for what is not in place as far as clients currently. I don't know if the system will be the bottleneck. network, or clients. Thanks Peter Peter DrakeUnderkoffler Xinupro, LLC 617-834-2352 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ok, thanks Peter. How many connectioins are you bonding and what sustained through put are you hoping for? Andy. *Peter DrakeUnderkoffler [EMAIL PROTECTED]* Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 31/03/2006 15:34 To:[EMAIL PROTECTED] cc:veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject:Re: [Veritas-bu] Ethernet port aggregation for performance I have a Linux master/media server with a single connection to a backup network via gigabit that I will be migrating to a bonding in a day or two. I have seen the single link with 3 or 4 streams to separate clients push an average of 80 megabytes/sec and peak much higher. Ping me next week and I'll let you know what I saw with bonding. This is against Extreme switchs, not Cisco, but the same should hold true. Thanks Peter Peter DrakeUnderkoffler Xinupro, LLC 617-834-2352 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does anybody use Ethernet port aggregation (ie Cisco Etherchannel) to connect their LAN media servers to a backup network? If yes, what level of performance are you seeing? and based on what hardware? Am keen to know if anyone has found this to be performant above 1Gbit/sec speeds thanks Andy. ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFELUsZl+lekZRM55oRAtEAAKC2syGCE9mveJzV+Ec2/Ythrhx+iACg1lI0 V5vj0drK4dxRw2q2AoZqmps= =Ajq5 -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] v6.0 NOM on Solaris 10 x86
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 The opposite would substantially cut into hardware sales at Sunall business all the time. Peter DrakeUnderkoffler Xinupro, LLC 617-834-2352 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OK - here's the scoop - and the boss was wrong. Solaris x86 Sparc are Source compatible not binary compatible. Here's an InfoWorld verification: === When it comes to app compatibility, Solaris isn't Java -- the binaries aren't portable between architectures (though they remain portable from earlier versions of Solaris on the same chip family, so you don't have to recompile a Solaris 2.6 app). However, on the small apps I tested, the source code was portable between 64-bit Sparc, 32-bit x86, and 64-bit x86. (InfoWorld, 4/2006) === Sorry for the confusion. -M -Original Message- From: Donaldson, Mark - Broomfield, CO Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2006 12:16 PM Compatibility is the word from the bossman - no independant verification on my part. Maybe I better... -Original Message- It's not on the supported list but Sun says Solaris 10 x86 is binary = compatible with Solaris 10 Sparc. Where does it say that they're binary compatible? No version of Solaris x86 offers SPARC binary compatibility. Both are binary compatible with older releases on the same architecture, but not with each other. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFEIv/sl+lekZRM55oRAj0PAJ9Qw6LAUsx8TYqAY9lUJqU+LgQfJwCeIW/F C+cTOE5/3JjjSm+tP9hCegw= =/dxE -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Setting up a Backup Lan
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 The easiest thing for this would be to have the O/S take care of the routing based on the names within the policies. So you currently have client = 1.2.3.10 mediasrv = 1.2.3.5 and then you have a cross over cable and the other nics doing their thing client-bu = 10.10.10.10 mediasrv-bu = 10.10.10.5 In the policy, the client would be known as client-bu and the bp.conf or windows config of the client would specify SERVER = mediasrv-bu CLIENT_NAME = client-bu Careful how you manage the client directly from the master server if it is not on that same network, you will have to manage it from the media server. Then make sure your name resolution works out mapping forward and reverse correctly either DNS or static files. Good luck. Thanks Peter DrakeUnderkoffler Xinupro, LLC 617-834-2352 Gary Williams wrote: This email and any attachments are confidential and may contain privileged information. If you are not the person for whom they are intended please return the email and then delete all material from any computer. You must not use the email or attachments for any purpose, nor disclose its contents to anyone other than the intended recipient. Any statements made by an individual in this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the Yorkshire Building Society Group. Hi, We currently have a situation where we want to backup an existing client to an existing media server, but want to connect using 2 extra GB network cards and a cross over cable, rather than use the existing network, in effect creating a mini backup network. The network cards have been setup with different hostnames and ip-addresses , and i am unsure how to configure this in Netbackup using DNS. Has anyone any ideas on how this needs to be setup ? Gary Williams YBS Yorkshire Building Society, which is authorised and regulated by the Financial Services Authority, chooses to introduce its customers to: -Legal General for the purposes of advising on and arranging life assurance and investment products bearing Legal General's name; and -Homeowners Friendly Society for the purpose of arranging stakeholder Child Trust Funds. We are entered in the FSA Register and our FSA registration number is 106085 http://www.fsa.gov.uk/register Head Office: Yorkshire Building Society, Yorkshire House, Yorkshire Drive, Bradford, BD5 8LJ Tel: 0845 1 200 100 Visit Our Website http://www.ybs.co.uk All communications with us may be monitored/recorded to improve the quality of our service and for your protection and security. This e-mail has been scanned for all viruses by Star. The service is powered by MessageLabs. For more information on a proactive anti-virus service working around the clock, around the globe, visit: http://www.star.net.uk ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFEDbAol+lekZRM55oRAqStAKDM+REPh+1z+LXpEJ0aw9XTxidRrQCeOhWd dh4hclrQyMsd1Rhn/D11Y0Y= =fe3a -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Linux Client Logs
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 There should be a readme file there as well that would detail what log does what. Unfortunately, the script that comes with windows creates log directories for everything, even items you don't need. There isn't anything for automated directory builds from 5.x down, but I do believe there is something for 6.x for unix. Peter DrakeUnderkoffler Xinupro, LLC 617-834-2352 Martin, Jonathan (Contractor) wrote: I know in windows there is a .bat file that creates all your log directories, is there something similar for Linux clients?! My /usr/openv/netbackup/logs director is empty except for user_ops. -Jonathan -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFD/fBzl+lekZRM55oRAoqbAJ4g5l0dyo/qjvh0P3ywNAfCoaspqgCgz4K/ 7Tai58k3vLhd1+QTbrlEZBc= =So/p -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] how to make Veritas netbackup log file show detail backup info?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 You also need to make VERBOSE = 5 in the bp.conf file on the client. Peter DrakeUnderkoffler Xinupro, LLC 617-834-2352 bbb bb wrote: We have several Redhat LInux servers (AS 3) use Veritas Netbackup client to backup file systems. I checked /usr/openv/netbackup/logs/bpbkar/log. file and it did NOT show detail backup information like : 03:10:18.082 [6439] 4 bpbkar: INF - Compression: 25% /usr/share/doc/doxygen-1.3.5/examples/define/html/files.html 03:10:18.082 [6439] 4 bpbkar: INF - Compression: 29% /usr/share/doc/doxygen-1.3.5/examples/define/html/globals.html 03:10:18.083 [6439] 4 bpbkar: INF - Compression: 30% /usr/share/doc/doxygen-1.3.5/examples/define/html/globals_defs.html 03:10:18.083 [6439] 4 bpbkar: INF - Compression: 21% /usr/share/doc/doxygen-1.3.5/examples/define/html/index.html Does there has way to let Veritas netbackup show detail backup infor on client log? Veritas netbackup version is 5.1. Thanks. ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFD8Q5El+lekZRM55oRAhezAJ98i4bYLBkQt1KZsefT32u9K/t9YgCfTRtB 0161V9dhjJKascOi5XDAnqM= =cztB -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Move /usr/openv to NFS mount coming from NetApps
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I would think veritas support would not recommend this or condone it, but if you have no other choice, make sure you have the underlying network infrastructure/arch worked out. So the network connection to the netapp from the master server, can it be on a different link than how the NDMP backups take place (unless the drives are on the filer). Is that link resilient, if solaris ipmp, if linux bonding, if Windows ???. Bottom line is that you are going to tie your backup, or more importantly, restore to a separate infrastructure, not that this is right or wrong, you just need to think about the ramifications. Is the NetApp clustered? Replicated? Also, on nbu server startup, make sure that the mount is there before NBU starts. If you are running out of catalog space, then take note of how that catalog backups run and what impact that will have. Also, there may need to be some tuning if this is NFS for the mount, such as turning off acl checks, making it run over tcp, make sure the mount is hard but intr, etc... If this were to work, then it would give you clustering capabilities as well as an interesting DR solution. Peter DrakeUnderkoffler Xinupro, LLC 617-834-2352 Algo Seeker wrote: I am running out of space on my internal drives. I am also thinking about migrating to a new server. Anybody moved from local file system to shared storage. Almost all of my backups are NDMP (Netapps), and as the number of files are growing so is the Catalog. What are the pros and cons? Any input? Thanks, -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFD4iZql+lekZRM55oRAggvAKDNVX6WdkXf9ojMp6Z5k84vLAr3RgCfXBvw aiLqHalM4mld2GRRY4f11Tw= =wFJf -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Backup to Disk
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 That would be the Advanced Client with the Off Host Backups. A separately licensed item. Thanks Peter DrakeUnderkoffler Xinupro, LLC 617-834-2352 Martin, Jonathan (Contractor) wrote: We just upgraded out SAN Solution to something with 80TB or similar, and the possibility now exists of using our Hitachi AMS500 to run shadow copies, hot copies or whatever you would like to call it. Unfortunately, it would be a major pain in the rear to have to manually have the SAN controllers via software create the hot copy, and then tell Netbackup to mount those luns and back them up. The Hitachi guy said he thinks Netbackup can do this for us. Is this a feature in 6 I'm not aware of? Is anyone doing anything similar? Thanks! -Jonathan Martin -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFD15ywl+lekZRM55oRArOtAJ45tKTqiA9jTOgrIEWMaWL6bu/sRQCggvbU 0rAqqcANiaWT/siuOpmH+aw= =4N0G -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Multiple data stream and bpend_notify script
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 There also needs to be cleanup features in the event of the job getting canceled by the admin (150) or of the stream gets retried or any other non-standard begin and end game. So if I understand what new features 6 allows for, then the parent job can be where you perform all your magic with multiple streams. Look forward to testing it or hearing of anyone else who has actually tested it. Thanks Peter DrakeUnderkoffler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As I think about this, you need something that compensates if this is a single-streamed job, STREAM_COUNT, if I recall correctly, is set to 0 if allow-multiple-streams is not set. if [ $STREAM_COUNT -gt 0 ] then echo $STREAM_NUMBER /tmp/countfile if [ `wc -l /tmp/countfile | awk '{print $1}'` -ge $STREAM_COUNT ] then echo Last stream rm /tmp/countfile run end-of-job-stuff fi else run end-of-job-stuff fi -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 08, 2005 9:19 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] Multiple data stream and bpend_notify script In unix, I do this with what I call a count file. As each stream ends, it writes appends a line to a common file. The script then checks the number of lines in the file and compares it against the STREAM_COUNT variable. If they match then the end-job is run the count file removed. Beats me how to do this in MS Batch files but here's my script's logic: echo $STREAM_NUMBER /tmp/countfile if [ `wc -l /tmp/countfile | awk '{print $1}'` -eq $STREAM_COUNT ] then echo Last stream rm /tmp/countfile run end-of-job-stuff fi There's some additional logic in the bpstart_notify script to check for an old countfile that's gotten lost because a previous stream ended without running it bpend_notify script. This, of course, may lead to the end-of-job startup stuff not running. Usually, for me, that's not an issue. -M -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Asiye Yigit Sent: Tuesday, November 08, 2005 2:37 AM To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: [Veritas-bu] Multiple data stream and bpend_notify script Hi gurus, We have a file system backup. It is being backuped as multiple data stream. We are backing up offline sql backup. So, in the bpend_notify script, There is start command to start sql after finishing backup. As there are multiple data stream, after completion of each data stream, Nb run bpend_notify script. We have to instruct the script, There are multiple data stream. In fact, in the admin guide, We have found some variables to support multiple data stream: STREAM_NUMBER STREAM_COUNT However, I do not know how can I use these variables in my bpend_notify script. Does Set STREAM_NUMBER=1 work? I am not sure. How can I tell the script, This backup is being backed up via multiple data stream. Please wait? Is there any idea about that? I would appreciate if you could help me. Regards, Asiye ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFDcN2gl+lekZRM55oRAl73AJ9e9EJ+f0+qIfpPHw2B9tdVJ9t/oQCghrVO 2pIlnVfUchIr8ubC8U/gDQ8= =jheh -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu