[Veritas-bu] Disk staging units in 5.1 MP4: Max Concurrent Jobs?

2006-03-29 Thread Phil Rand
Hello,

I'm trying to use a disk staging storage unit under 5.1 MP4, and am
wondering how to interpret the maximum conconcurrent jobs attribute.  
I assumed it controlled the number of concurrent jobs allowed to write
to the disk staging storage unit during stage 1, and some
experimentation does seem to confirm that.

However, I would have thought Stage 2 (relocation) would have had the
number of concurrent duplication jobs limited by maximum concurrent
drives setting of the final destination storage unit.  I have 2 tape
drives in my final destination storage unit, max concurrent drives set
to 2, and instead of 2 orderly duplication jobs,  I saw 4, with many
134 errors as they contended for tape drives.  Or at least, I would
have expected the duplications to quietly wait their turns for drives
as they do when I start them manually from a conventional disk storage
unit.

I found that when I reduced the max concurrent jobs of my disk staging
storage unit to 2, that seems to limit the duplication jobs to 2.

What's going on here?   How do I allow many disk-to-disk jobs in stage
1, but only one disk-to-tape job per tape drive in stage 2?

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Re: [Veritas-bu] Disk staging units in 5.1 MP4: Max Concurrent Jobs?

2006-03-29 Thread Phil Rand
It did indeed.  Thanks!

On 3/29/06, Stephens, John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 This should explain it.

  http://support.veritas.com/docs/280398


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 Hello,

 I'm trying to use a disk staging storage unit under 5.1 MP4, and am
 wondering how to interpret the maximum conconcurrent jobs attribute.
 I assumed it controlled the number of concurrent jobs allowed to write
 to the disk staging storage unit during stage 1, and some
 experimentation does seem to confirm that.

 However, I would have thought Stage 2 (relocation) would have had the
 number of concurrent duplication jobs limited by maximum concurrent
 drives setting of the final destination storage unit.  I have 2 tape
 drives in my final destination storage unit, max concurrent drives set
 to 2, and instead of 2 orderly duplication jobs,  I saw 4, with many
 134 errors as they contended for tape drives.  Or at least, I would
 have expected the duplications to quietly wait their turns for drives
 as they do when I start them manually from a conventional disk storage
 unit.

 I found that when I reduced the max concurrent jobs of my disk staging
 storage unit to 2, that seems to limit the duplication jobs to 2.

 What's going on here?   How do I allow many disk-to-disk jobs in stage
 1, but only one disk-to-tape job per tape drive in stage 2?

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Re: [Veritas-bu] on the subject of disk based backups....

2006-03-23 Thread Phil Rand
I'm curious: Why do people use different volume pools? We have one pool for Exchange backups, and three others to go with our Iron Mountain weekly rotations, but I'm not sure what that's buying us. For tracking Iron Mountain boxes, we use volume groups, so the three pools for that are redundant. It's nice to be able to easily break out the Exchange tapes, but there are other ways of getting that information. So I don't think the case for separate volume pools is all that compelling for us. How do other folks use them?
other than being able to track easily how much On 3/23/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
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Hi Paul,

 from my experience what you say about DSSU is incorrect, a single DSSU cannot stage the data off to multiple tape tape pools - if you have a requirement to stage to different tape pools you need to have a at least one DSSU per tape pool,


cheers Andy.








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I'm also interested in thoughts regarding VTL vs DSSU.
DSSU interests me mostly because I can write multiple jobs at once without any regard for tape pool, mpx or not, retention, etc.
...then it all gets sorted out to appropriate tapes during the destaging
VTL still presents itself to NBU as a tape, so each virtual tape drive must be licensed with Veritas, in additional to the physical tape drives (unless the VTL is run inline, though there could be issues there regarding estimated compression, etc.) 

Just a couple things off the top of my head.
Just wondering who is using DSSU, adn who is using VTL, adn why you made that choiceie.what were the key requirements for your environment that made one option better than the other.

Paul


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