[Veritas-bu] Media Servers Per Tape Drive Ratio
All, How do you determine how many media servers per tape drive in your environments? I have 10 LTO3 tape drives and have been using 2 media servers per tape drive. Thank you. Will Tucker | Storage Administrator Enterprise Technology Services Manhattan Associates, Inc. Direct +1 678.597.6644 Phone +1 770.955.7070 Fax +1 814.295.9676 Mobile +1 770.490.5404 wtuc...@manh.commailto:wtuc...@manh.com http://www.manh.com/ _ The Supply Chain People® Manhattan Associates From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu [mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of WEAVER, Simon (external) Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2011 1:55 PM To: VERITAS-BU@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: [Veritas-bu] Size buffers / Performance Tune on Ex2k3 with LTO4 All Just a quick question, but I used some default NetBackup settings to tune Exchange backups and restores. If I move to a different library with LTO4 (rather than LTO3), do I need to reconfigure the settings? Windows 2003 SAN Media Exchange, with Master Win2k3 SP2 Regards Simon This email (including any attachments) may contain confidential and/or privileged information or information otherwise protected from disclosure. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately, do not copy this message or any attachments and do not use it for any purpose or disclose its content to any person, but delete this message and any attachments from your system. Astrium disclaims any and all liability if this email transmission was virus corrupted, altered or falsified. -o- Astrium Limited, Registered in England and Wales No. 2449259 Registered Office: Gunnels Wood Road, Stevenage, Hertfordshire, SG1 2AS, England ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
[Veritas-bu] How Much Data Can Be Backed Up
All, How do you determine how much data that can be backed up in your environments? I have NetBackup 6.5.3 with 10 tape drives and 5 media servers in a Windows environment. Thank you. Will Tucker | Storage Administrator Enterprise Technology Services Manhattan Associates, Inc. Direct +1 678.597.6644 Phone +1 770.955.7070 Fax +1 814.295.9676 Mobile +1 770.490.5404 wtuc...@manh.commailto:wtuc...@manh.com http://www.manh.com/ _ The Supply Chain People® Manhattan Associates From: Will Tucker Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2011 2:45 PM To: VERITAS-BU@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: Media Servers Per Tape Drive Ratio All, How do you determine how many media servers per tape drive in your environments? I have 10 LTO3 tape drives and have been using 2 media servers per tape drive. Thank you. Will Tucker | Storage Administrator Enterprise Technology Services Manhattan Associates, Inc. Direct +1 678.597.6644 Phone +1 770.955.7070 Fax +1 814.295.9676 Mobile +1 770.490.5404 wtuc...@manh.commailto:wtuc...@manh.com http://www.manh.com/ _ The Supply Chain People® Manhattan Associates From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu [mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of WEAVER, Simon (external) Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2011 1:55 PM To: VERITAS-BU@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: [Veritas-bu] Size buffers / Performance Tune on Ex2k3 with LTO4 All Just a quick question, but I used some default NetBackup settings to tune Exchange backups and restores. If I move to a different library with LTO4 (rather than LTO3), do I need to reconfigure the settings? Windows 2003 SAN Media Exchange, with Master Win2k3 SP2 Regards Simon This email (including any attachments) may contain confidential and/or privileged information or information otherwise protected from disclosure. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately, do not copy this message or any attachments and do not use it for any purpose or disclose its content to any person, but delete this message and any attachments from your system. Astrium disclaims any and all liability if this email transmission was virus corrupted, altered or falsified. -o- Astrium Limited, Registered in England and Wales No. 2449259 Registered Office: Gunnels Wood Road, Stevenage, Hertfordshire, SG1 2AS, England ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] How Much Data Can Be Backed Up
One note to add: I have a private backup network: One VLAN for my production (Windows) servers and one VLAN for my Development (Unix, Sparc, Sun, etc) servers. Will Tucker | Storage Administrator Enterprise Technology Services Manhattan Associates, Inc. Direct +1 678.597.6644 Phone +1 770.955.7070 Fax +1 814.295.9676 Mobile +1 770.490.5404 wtuc...@manh.commailto:wtuc...@manh.com http://www.manh.com/ _ The Supply Chain People(r) Manhattan Associates From: Jeff Cleverley [mailto:jeff.clever...@avagotech.com] Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2011 3:19 PM To: Will Tucker Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] How Much Data Can Be Backed Up Will, Questions like this vary greatly based on many factors. In short, you're really the only one who can determine that. Here are some basic guidelines I use. 1. Most people probably use media servers to backup themselves. This keeps large amounts of data off the network. You need to figure out the maximum data transfer rate for your media server (system I/O), the maximum transfer rate of your source disks, and the maximum transfer rate of your tape drives. In this case, the slowest one wins and is the best case number you can use. You then figure out how much data you will backup for a full backup (worst case transfers), divide that by your best case transfer rate, and that will tell you how long it will take to do that backup. 2. For client backups to media or master servers over the network, you need to factor in the same things as above, but now the network traffic becomes another factor. If you flood the LAN and have to dial things back to keep other users happy, it will affect how much you can effectively backup. 3. Throttling the backups, locally or across the network, may need to be considered. If you find running an all-out full backup on a client drives it into the ground where users complain, you'll need to factor in slower times as you restrict throughput or look into things like a dedicated backup network and interface. 4. What is an acceptable backup window for your clients. If you have 12 hours to backup 10 TB you need to make sure each of the pieces are capable of performing at a high enough level. If it currently takes you 6 hours, you have room for more data. If you are already at 12 hours then you need to find out which piece isn't keeping up and decide if you can change it. As you can see, the number of tape drives or media servers may not be a factor. If you can write 80MB/s to a tape drive but your source disks are only putting out 30MB/s adding more tape drives or media servers will not help you at all. Do some testing of the individual piece involved in your backups and see where your weakest link is. You should be able to figure out where you are limited from there. Jeff On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 12:47 PM, Will Tucker wtuc...@manh.commailto:wtuc...@manh.com wrote: All, How do you determine how much data that can be backed up in your environments? I have NetBackup 6.5.3 with 10 tape drives and 5 media servers in a Windows environment. Thank you. Will Tucker | Storage Administrator Enterprise Technology Services Manhattan Associates, Inc. Direct +1 678.597.6644 Phone +1 770.955.7070 Fax +1 814.295.9676 Mobile +1 770.490.5404 wtuc...@manh.commailto:wtuc...@manh.com http://www.manh.com/ _ The Supply Chain People(r) Manhattan Associates From: Will Tucker Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2011 2:45 PM To: VERITAS-BU@mailman.eng.auburn.edumailto:VERITAS-BU@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: Media Servers Per Tape Drive Ratio All, How do you determine how many media servers per tape drive in your environments? I have 10 LTO3 tape drives and have been using 2 media servers per tape drive. Thank you. Will Tucker | Storage Administrator Enterprise Technology Services Manhattan Associates, Inc. Direct +1 678.597.6644 Phone +1 770.955.7070 Fax +1 814.295.9676 Mobile +1 770.490.5404 wtuc...@manh.commailto:wtuc...@manh.com http://www.manh.com/ _ The Supply Chain People(r) Manhattan Associates From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edumailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu [mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edumailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of WEAVER, Simon (external) Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2011 1:55 PM To: VERITAS-BU@mailman.eng.auburn.edumailto:VERITAS-BU@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: [Veritas-bu] Size buffers / Performance Tune on Ex2k3 with LTO4 All Just a quick question, but I used some default NetBackup settings to tune Exchange backups and restores. If I move to a different library with LTO4 (rather than LTO3), do I need to reconfigure the settings? Windows 2003 SAN Media Exchange, with Master Win2k3 SP2 Regards Simon This email (including any attachments) may contain confidential and/or privileged
[Veritas-bu] NetBU 7
Is anyone using NetBackup 7? If so, please identify the pros/cons of using it along with the gotchas. Thank you. Will Tucker | Storage Administrator Enterprise Technology Services Manhattan Associates, Inc. Direct +1 678.597.6644 Phone +1 770.955.7070 Fax +1 814.295.9676 Mobile +1 770.490.5404 wtuc...@manh.com http://www.manh.com/ _ The Supply Chain People® Manhattan Associates ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
[Veritas-bu] Images On Media
Good afternoon everyone. I'm curious as to what everyone is using for the Images on Media process? If you need to do a restore outside of the tape reports window, how do you determine which tapes are requested from Iron Mountain or whatever off-site provider you use to perform the restores? Will Tucker | Storage Administrator Enterprise Technology Services Manhattan Associates, Inc. Direct +1 678.597.6644 Mobile +1 770.590.5404 wtuc...@manh.com http://www.manh.com/ _ The Supply Chain People(tm) Manhattan Associates ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
[Veritas-bu] NetApp Failover Question
We have clustered NetApp filers ma-atl08 and ma-atl09; both filers are connected to a brocade switch via fiber. Ma-atl09 has two tape drives attached to it. In a failover situation whereas ma-atl09 fails and ma-atl08 takes over, will ma-atl08 takeover control of the two tape drives that are attached to ma-atl09? Will Tucker | Storage Administrator Enterprise Technology Services Manhattan Associates, Inc. Direct +1 678.597.6644 Mobile +1 770.590.5404 wtuc...@manh.com http://www.manh.com/ _ The Supply Chain People(tm) Manhattan Associates -Original Message- From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu [mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of Wilkinson, Alex Sent: Monday, September 14, 2009 1:51 AM To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: [Veritas-bu] [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]Re: SL500 Tape Library Issue 0n Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 01:45:59AM -0400, NBU wrote: Facing problem with SL500 Tape library as it goes in hang state and no medias get mounted. All backup remains in queue. This is observed once in 2 days time. During problem Console also doesn't fetches any data from library. Only after rebooting the library it does. Following error is received on the Master server during problem. --- -- Sep 13 01:02:05 P038XMST01 tldcd[17544]: [ID 466614 daemon.error] TLD(0) Mode_sense error Sep 13 01:02:32 P038XMST01 tldcd[17544]: [ID 782741 daemon.error] TLD(0) key = 0x2, asc = 0x4, ascq = 0x1, LOGICAL UNIT IS IN PROCESS OF BECOMING READY --- -- We have replaced the robot assembly, then also the problem persists. Any help/suggestions appreciated. What does SLconsole say ? [https://cds.sun.com/is-bin/INTERSHOP.enfinity/WFS/CDS-CDS_SMI-Site/en_U S/-/USD/ViewProductDetail-Start?ProductRef=SSTKSLConsoleFRS-4.10-OTH-G-F @CDS-CDS_SMI] What does robtest(1) say ? -Alex IMPORTANT: This email remains the property of the Australian Defence Organisation and is subject to the jurisdiction of section 70 of the CRIMES ACT 1914. If you have received this email in error, you are requested to contact the sender and delete the email. ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
[Veritas-bu] SSO and NDMP Jobs
In my current NetBackup 6.5.3 Windows environment, I have 4 tapes drives that are directly connected to my NetApp filer which uses NDMP to run duplicate jobs. I also have two other tape drives that are utilized for other backup jobs. There are currently 2 media servers and 1 master server. If I implement SSO, will my duplicate jobs see and utilize all six tape drives? Will Tucker | Storage Administrator Enterprise Technology Services Manhattan Associates, Inc. Direct +1 678.597.6644 Mobile +1 770.590.5404 wtuc...@manh.com mailto:wtuc...@manh.com http://www.manh.com/ http://www.manh.com/ _ The Supply Chain People(tm) Manhattan Associates ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
[Veritas-bu] What Is The Purpose For My Brocade Switch?
I have 3 media servers and a NetApp filer connected via Fiber Cable to a Brocade 5000 series switch which is then connected to tape drives in an SL8500 tape library. What is the purpose for the Brocade switch? Do I need it, or can I just connect the media servers and NetApp filer directly to the SL8500 tape library via fiber? Will Tucker | Storage Administrator Enterprise Technology Services Manhattan Associates, Inc. Direct +1 678.597.6644 Mobile +1 770.590.5404 wtuc...@manh.com mailto:wtuc...@manh.com http://www.manh.com/ http://www.manh.com/ _ The Supply Chain People(tm) Manhattan Associates ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
[Veritas-bu] We Do Not Know The Login Credentials For A Brocade 5000 Switch
Does anyone know how to reset the password for a Brocade 5000 switch? Will Tucker | Storage Administrator Enterprise Technology Services Manhattan Associates, Inc. Direct +1 678.597.6644 Mobile +1 770.590.5404 wtuc...@manh.com http://www.manh.com/ _ The Supply Chain People(tm) Manhattan Associates ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
[Veritas-bu] NOM Issues
My master server is Windows Server 2003 NBU 6.5 and I have setup NOM on a totally different server with the same OS and NBU 6.5 that can ping the master server, but I cannot add the master server to it. Any ideas? Will Tucker | Storage Administrator Enterprise Technology Services Manhattan Associates, Inc. Direct +1 678.597.6644 Mobile +1 770.590.5404 wtuc...@manh.com http://www.manh.com/ _ MOMENTUM 2009 EvolveExtendCOMPETE Optimizing Supply Chains in a Variable World. May 19-22, 2009 Las Vegas, NV Visit www.manh-momentum.com today and register early for best rates. -Original Message- From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu [mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of Wacko_Jacko Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2009 2:29 PM To: VERITAS-BU@MAILMAN.ENG.AUBURN.EDU Subject: [Veritas-bu] issue with 6.5.3 and win 2008 servers I had the same issues. When you created the policy, did you use the policy creation wizard. If so I believe that is why the error 49 occurred. Try upgrading to 6.5.3 via liveupdate and creating a new policy without the wizard this time and setup the policy manually. This worked for me!! Thanks Wacko_Jacko judy_hinchcliffe wrote: Just and FYI Had all servers working on 6.5.2a When I went to 6.5.3 NONE of my 2008 servers would work, all failed with a 49. Had to take them all back to 6.5.2a. I Never been able to figure out why. Then last Friday while I was working on it at 4 pm I failed with a 49, at 4:30 pm backups worked. I upgrade 5 more of my 2008 servers and they are all working on 6.5.3 now. No idea why they failed, cannot find anybody who says they changed anything that suddenly made them work. 2008 just seems to be a little weird with 6.5.3 -Original Message- From: veritas-bu-bounces at mailman.eng.auburn.edu [mailto:veritas-bu-bounces at mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of Sweeney, Patrick Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 3:15 PM To: VERITAS-BU at mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] issue with 6.5.3 and win 2008 servers I did. On my 1 2008 server the backup ran for 4 days. On the 5th day bpbrm seemed to never hand off to bpcd and the parent job just hung out there, never spawning child jobs, and not allowing me to cancel it. I reverted it back to 6.5.2a. Lots of things it could have been, but not any I have time enough to toy with. Patrick Sweeney (978) 787-4553 patrick.sweeney at axcelis.com I.T. Systems/Networks For issues requiring immediate attention please contact the Solution Center IT Solution Center (978) 787- Beverly.Helpdesk at axcelis.com Axcelis Technologies Have you searched here and here? -Original Message- From: veritas-bu-bounces at mailman.eng.auburn.edu [mailto:veritas-bu-bounces at mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of RyanV Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 11:56 AM To: VERITAS-BU at mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: [Veritas-bu] issue with 6.5.3 and win 2008 servers Did you ever try the NBU 6.5.3.1 client? +-- |This was sent by rvela at ercot.com via Backup Central. |Forward SPAM to abuse at backupcentral.com. +-- ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu at mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu at mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu at mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu +-- |This was sent by trevor.jack...@cgi.com via Backup Central. |Forward SPAM to ab...@backupcentral.com. +-- ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] LTO4 recognized as DLT
L4 should be the identifier. --Original Message-- From: judy_hinchcli...@administaff.com To: veritas-bu Sent: May 7, 2009 10:37 AM Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] LTO4 recognized as DLT Do you use the barcodes that come with the LTO4 tapes or do you use custom barcodes? Do you know that the barcode is specific to the kind of tape so that barcodes for DLT tapes say they are dlt, and barcodes for LT04 tapes say they are LTO4? -Original Message- From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu [mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of sql_noob Sent: Thursday, May 07, 2009 9:35 AM To: VERITAS-BU@MAILMAN.ENG.AUBURN.EDU Subject: [Veritas-bu] LTO4 recognized as DLT this is a brand new install. the old environment is so old that it was too expensive to upgrade it or buy something to hold both types of tapes. the ADIC is using DLT 8000 drives and we have the 40/80 GB tapes. the SDLT drives that can read them can only be bought from junk dealers. since this is my first time setting up netbackup, it's a learning curve. and there is so much documentation it's too much to take in at once. when it discovered the robot, drives and tapes it automatically labeled them as dlt. next week i'll probably change it to hcart. for now we'll probably use the old robot and server for old restores. but it has been flaky in the past and in case it dies for good we'll need to buy an old SDLT autoloader. +-- |This was sent by alent1...@gmail.com via Backup Central. |Forward SPAM to ab...@backupcentral.com. +-- ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Real time failure notification
Have you tried blat.exe? --Original Message-- From: Travis Kelley To: veritas-bu Sent: Feb 4, 2009 10:35 AM Subject: [Veritas-bu] Real time failure notification Hi all. I'm trying to find a solution to a monitoring problem we have. I would like to create a mechanism to alert when a backup fails but to only send one alert if multiple streams from a backup fail. For instance if c: and d: both fail for a particular box, I only want 1 alert. Also if a job fails twice but is successful on the third attempt I don't want an alert at all. I only want to be alerted once when netbackup gives up on retrying a backup and fails the job. I've looked at backup_exit_notify but haven't been able to find a good way to implement this here. Any ideas? -- Sent from my mobile device ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] bocada software for monitoring
Have you looked at Veritas Backup Reporter? Doesn't Tivoli have a module that monitors its own backups? - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Sent: Thu Nov 27 05:54:41 2008 Subject: [Veritas-bu] bocada software for monitoring Hi All, Did any one tried Bocada for monitoring the Backups on Veritas. Bocada software claims that it can monitor the backups running/ran on Veritas Netbackup as well as TSM. We have both the environment running in the infrastructure , but not able to monitor the backups on a single console, is there any other software which can help us in monitoring . Rgds A D IBM Global Services, Delhi, Email : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
[Veritas-bu] Status Code 58
I have inherited a NBU environment (Windows 2003 Server SP2) with one master server, 3 media servers which connect to an SL8500 (development backups), and 3 media servers which connect to a StorageTek L180 (production backups). I'm receiving multiple status code 58 (can't connect to client) on my development jobs even though I'm running the bpclntcmd -hn command to obtain the correct hostname. Any ideas? Will Tucker | Storage Administrator Manhattan Associates, Inc. Direct +1 678.597.6644 Mobile +1 770.590.5404 [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.manh.com/ http://www.manh.com/ _ The Supply Chain People(tm) Manhattan Associates ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Status Code 58
Just to clarify, I am using NBU v6.5. From: Will Tucker Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2008 12:40 PM To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: Status Code 58 I have inherited a NBU environment (Windows 2003 Server SP2) with one master server, 3 media servers which connect to an SL8500 (development backups), and 3 media servers which connect to a StorageTek L180 (production backups). I'm receiving multiple status code 58 (can't connect to client) on my development jobs even though I'm running the bpclntcmd -hn command to obtain the correct hostname. Any ideas? Will Tucker | Storage Administrator Manhattan Associates, Inc. Direct +1 678.597.6644 Mobile +1 770.590.5404 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.manh.com/ http://www.manh.com/ _ The Supply Chain People(tm) Manhattan Associates ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
